Blackmagic PYXIS 6K the UGLY TRUTH Before You Buy

00:00 Intro
00:14 RAW workflow
01:00 File sizes
02:09 The sensor
04:14 ND
04:56 Audio
05:18 LCD screen
06:05 EVF
06:12 Price (not as cheap as you think)
07:18 Conclusion
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[@moomoochacoo]

Seems like a lot of content creators do not like this, while all the filmmakers do.

[@Sethmotley]

That is so true this is why I listen to them for entertainment purposes only not to convince me to buy a camera or not.

[@hbp_]

I think BMD relies on consumers and regular KZbinrs to keep their prices low.

[@ginger_dog]

@@Sethmotley Ha ha! Nice.

[@ginger_dog]

That's probably a good breakdown of the target market. I think this is a great option for beginning indy filmmakers for sure.

[@sulimankhan8322]

​hey which camera should i buy ) usra mini 12k pro 2) usra cine 12k ??? ​@@Sethmotley

[@WanderAndringa]

The feedback in this video is targeted to filming testimonials and/or live events. The OP is most probably unfamiliar with the target audience for a cinema camera. This camera is for commercials, branded content, music video's and fiction work. A ton of cinematographers were waiting for just this camera in this budget range... It's not meant for videographers like OP, he is not the target audience. He should look for more complete solutions like Canon C70 or Sony fx6. A camera is a tool and there's a different tool for every job. Just because it doesn't suit OP’s workstyle, doesn't mean it does not work for others. Us cinematographers would never settle for 8 or 10 bit codecs. Our shots will only last a few seconds on the screen and every shot matters, when you have an expensive crew on set with a ton of lighting and actors. Every shot is scripted and planned out... You will put a high-quality ND filter in your mattebox and have a dedicated sound guy in your crew. You work with external monitoring to frame your shots anyway and have an excellent monitor on the side of the camera to navigate menu's and check false color. There's a HUGE market for affordable cinema grade camera's, for medium-sized productions.

[@AndieNow]

Thank you!!

[@ginger_dog]

So I totally agree. I think there is a market for this camera and you have correctly identified who that might be. It is not at all for videographers like me which is why I presented what I did because I'm afraid a lot of filmmakers in my shoes will jump on it too quickly seeing the price and the 6K full frame spec in a box style cinema camera. It's absolutely time Blackmagic launched a camera like this and it will be great for the segment of filmmakers you mentioned. I didn't want to take up too much time explaining my segment but I also do a lot of documentary work and corporate videography, but certainly still different than you. I hope you enjoy the camera and get fantastic stuff out of it!

[@about30seconds27]

This is so true, right tool for the right job!

[@ginger_dog]

@@about30seconds27 Exactly. Right on. No the right tool for me but fantastic for others.

[@defektfilms]

I own a BMCC 6k Full Frame and I love it, although I use it many times, for certain jobs I use my trusty Lumix S1. And many times also I use both. This is a pointless dissing video, Blackmagic has all the needed (and some more) info on their website, it's not like they're trying to fool anyone.

[@DANAMIONLINE]

The file size of BRAW isn't a big deal because of the various compression options. In this video, I noticed you only checked the highest compression setting. As a Documentary Filmmaker, I use Q5 and Q3 for constant image quality with lower file size. For example, I filmed a 10-day observational doc totaling 900GB using Q5 at 5.7K DCI 17:9 on the Pocket 6K Pro. When I transcoded those clips (for my client) into ProRes 422 and downscaled them to 2K the total file size was 800GB. If you are used to filming on H.264 files sizes, BRAW is drastically more data. Yet, ProRes is a heavier data codec than BRAW. BRAW can save you space with greater flexibility.

[@ibrahimmomoh]

I agree, people just want to complain, if you have never used braw in all its diffrent flavour you end up like this guy talking anout space, i shoot hours on a 1tb 12:1 braw, if you dont like it just dont buy it is my policy, dont complain

[@ginger_dog]

So I did the highest compression setting but also the lowest on HD. You are correct, I didn't demonstrate the lowest with the 6K, but I wanted to be brief and engaging and give people insight on how they can check this themselves. The PYXIS 6K doesn't give any ProRes options like the pocket cameras do, so you will obviously have an advantage there. That's a fault I see with the PYXIS, at least for a videographer like me.

[@johnzuluetafilms5226]

absolutely

[@wckoek]

I wondered what do you think of the Z-Cam, particularly 4k? Been thinking of getting one to go along my GH5 system instead of going GH6.

[@blackicestudios]

There were many corners cut in making this camera so that they could keep the price down. 1. No prores = no licensing fees 2. No ND = easier/faster/cheaper build 3. One audio port keeps the cost down. 4. The screen is hype and it’s on the wrong side. You should always use a proper monitor anyway . 5. I didn’t see the need for anything but the L mount cuz that mount can adapt to anything. But I have a feeling it’s to make customers feel secure instead of having to look around. That said it will suit quite a number of ppl. Up to them .

[@ginger_dog]

Totally. But it makes it far less attractive to me as a more pro level shooter. I'm interested to see what segment of the market finds it ideal.

[@revelmediatt]

@@ginger_dog If you call yourself a "pro level shooter" all your complaints should be irrelevant. 1. BRAW: is the best codec I've ever dealt with. plenty information and its so smooth on your system. Scrubbing is a breeze. You should want that as a pro user. 2. File Size: You can use a 12:1 for lower sizes and also if you are a "pro" the cost of a few extra 2 TBs SSDs should not be an issue considering the cost of the camera and you easily offload them to an HDD which are a lot cheaper for storage. 3. Full frame using 4k crop: Just film in 6K and downscale in post, the grain and image will be better anyway. Its your same argument with sensor size. Why film in 4K when you have 6K available then? 4. No internal NDs: A BM rep said in an interview that it was to keep the form factor down (small) and they believed that "pro users" such as yourself would want to use their own NDs anyway. 5. Mini XLRs: there is a lot of mini XLRs to standard size cables on the market. Non issue. 6. Side monitor: "Pro users" would normally have at least another cew member to assist you and most of the time its a few things that needs to be accessed that you set it and forget it anyway. Don't forget there are also buttons you can use to make quick changes. This camera is made for users to RIG out hence the form factor. That's why they also have the Pocket line of cameras . ALSOthe screen is way better than what RED to ARRI offers. 7. Cost: This is incredible value compare to the competition for what it offers. You fail to mention that you also get Davince resolve bundled which is by in itself a great deal. You sound more like a run and gun type of user. Just stick with the mirrorless cameras options.

[@ginger_dog]

​@@revelmediatt Valid arguments. I think this is why this camera will be fantastic for users like you and not for those like me. 1. I would not be surprised if BRAW is a dreamy codec. The issue I had is we are forced into a RAW workflow. Not all projects warrant this. If you are in narrative, music video, or documentary workflows EXCLUSIVELY, then you probably want RAW only, so it would be a none issue. 2. Again, correct, except that the only way to get smaller file sizes is cropping in on the sensor. I much prefer downscaling on the full sensor. If you are wanting to save on SSD expenses and massive storage, you won't be able to experience the full potential of this sensor. But yes, otherwise, you are correct. 3. Sure. 4. Interesting. I still love internal ND and everyone I have ever heard that has used internal ND never wants to go back to a camera without it. Having internal ND doesn't prevent you from using your own if you prefer, but not having it forces you to invest in your own. Not sure how much size it would add to the camera. Plenty of small box cameras with internal ND. 5. Totally true. Why doesn't this camera have two mini XLR ports? I use shotgun and lav mics on nearly every interview. I personally want two XLR ports. Obviously narrative filmmakers are going to record audio externally to a pro audio recorder though. To each their own. 6. This still forces you to accessorize. Most people do anyway, but not having the screen articulate is still going to annoy a lot of people. Sure it's nice for one particular workflow, but they could have satisfied more shooting styles with an articulating LCD screen. Yes, BM makes fantastic displays. No doubt. 7. Bingo. BM is one of the best when it comes to cost. Though I will say, you generally still have a lot of investing to do to accessorize most of their cameras. And free Resolve is a huge value add for sure.

[@revelmediatt]

@@ginger_dog don’t get me wrong, I wished the screen could have been flippy as well but it’s a non issue in the bigger picture of things (no pun intended) and I would have honestly preferred the internal NDs as well and accept a bigger form factor. But they wanted to keep it small for gimbal use. I will most likely be purchasing this camera.

[@ginger_dog]

@@revelmediatt Agreed! Thank you for sharing. I hope you love it! Go make great art with it!

[@eleventhvision]

It's definitely a filmmakers camera. All your points are very fair and valid to their intent. Good inspection for videographers and corporate producers. On the contrary, this will be a great camera for filmmakers already in the L, PL, and EF spectrum as well as having the monitor, ND's, and additions needed to rig it out . Will get a lot of love from small productions.

[@GraphicDesignNY]

Helpful video!

[@ginger_dog]

Thank you. Glad it was helpful for you. I think that makes 1 person. Ha ha.

[@ginnodizon6551]

@@ginger_dog Hahahaha funny people.

[@indie12]

very helpful and logical video. thank you

[@ginger_dog]

So glad the video found someone it was helpful for. Judging by the comments, that makes like six of us, so I really appreciate you saying so.

[@indie12]

@@ginger_dog i am a director cinematographer who started my career by shooting in 35mm film.i had owned red ones ,blackmagic cinema 4k and shot on alexa. cinema cameras and colours and looks are always a personal choice. over the years blackmagic camera has evolved a lot for good. that being said as a filmmaker i agree with your perspective.

[@ginger_dog]

@@indie12 I'm sooooo jealous! My dad went to film school and shot on 8mm & 16mm. I would absolutely love to shoot on film sometime. I also remember when the Red One came out and I saw a live demo of it and thought it was the cat's meow. Now, I'd totally go Arri or Sony on a big film production if possible. For my stuff, I lean Canon. Blackmagic always keeps things interesting though. Thank you for sharing.

[@indie12]

@@ginger_dog thank you. wish you lots of happiness and peace.

[@wearetrackclub]

Interesting perspective! Definitely some good points to consider. 👏

[@ginger_dog]

Thank you. It's one point of view at least.

[@billyoung9538]

I'm confused by one aspect of this video. This seems to be pushing to compare BRAW as Q0 to formats like H.265 for file size comparisons; however, if one were after small sizes then wouldn't it be better to be doing the comparison to some of the more compressed versions of BRAW? I mean the argument seems to be best quality for the storage cost thus wouldn't Q5 be the better format for a file size comparison if the goal is best picture quality per GB?

[@ginger_dog]

Valid question. I was trying to determine how much time to spend on the subject of file size before I really risk loosing viewers so I stuck with the two extremes to show the entire spectrum but also demonstrated the interactive calculator so that viewers could work it themselves. But yes, you are right, if you were after smaller file sizes, calculating for more compressed BRAW would be more helpful.

[@frankfarago2825]

Shooting in RAW -- that is at a 12:1 or 15:1 compression? Nay.... I really don't want to do that. This BMD Pyxis is but a one-pony circus act -- BRAW, and that, as they say, is that. Yuck!

[@billyoung9538]

@@frankfarago2825 What are you talking about? I was comparing 12:1 for the purposes of files size. Lets be real, peoples big bitch has been the lack of Prores more than anything; however, Any Prores comparable to BRAW in both bit depth and file size are HUGE by comparison. Prores XQ 4444 12 bit is 2TB per hour and standard 4444 12bit is 1.4TB per hour where as BRAW Q0 is only 1TB per hour. BRAW is tiny for the quality it offers. Sure a 10bit 4:2:0 H.265 will look good and function for 99% of the internet purposes; however if one gets into HDR Cinema land then H.265 is not the best for the job. I'll take BRAW any-day. If one isn't after the camera for cinema purposes then Why are they looking at the PYXIS in the first place?

[@billyoung9538]

@@frankfarago2825 Look the purpose of the PYXIS is as a box cinema camera. If ones goal is not cinema, then why are people even wasting their time looking at this camera? The argument made was that H.265 was better due to file size, but compared the best quality of it to a vastly compressed format that ISN'T A camera quality for a cinematic production. If one looks at the Creator as a prime example of this, IT was shot in ProresRAW not the FX3's default H.265. Why? Because H.265 is not at cinematic levels, and the FX3 was the best camera for the environment they were shooting in; however, the file formats for ProresRAW dwarf those of BRAW. Even stock Prores XQ 12bit at 4444 quality is 2TB per hour, and 1.4TB per hour for 12bit 4444 at standard quality, and those are the only two comparable12bit formats. By comparison Q5 BRAW offers one of the best Image per GB ratios on the market at 2.7 hours per TB at 6k open gate. If that isn't a great ratio for a cinema capable format then I'll happily listen to arguments; however, If one is really after a lower quality format out of a PYXIS, or any other modern Blackmagic camera, then pick up an external recorder with the desired format. The whole purpose of a box camera is to be rigged to purpose. If one doesn't want to rig the PYXIS to fit the purpose then guess what? The PYXIS isn't the camera for them, but it doesn't mean the PYXIS is a bad box camera, and currently one of the best value box cameras on the market for people after a box camera. What's truly ironic is how people are comparing this camera to cameras meant for a different audience. When compared to other actual box cameras the PYXIS is a great value despite everything.

[@shawnmiller8169]

@@frankfarago2825 Quality wise, constant bitrate BRAW is about the same as Redcode RAW. I probably wouldn't shoot 12:1 for VFX, but it's fine for most everything else. People are afraid of anything more compressed than 5:1 or Q1 because they haven't shot with it, but it's every bit as good as Redcode. For those who haven't worked with Redcode, BRAW is better quality and more efficient than Prores at similar bitrates.

[@freelancealchemist1904]

How is the autofocus?

[@ginger_dog]

That will be something to test once the camera actually releases. Nothing to commentate on at this point from the spec sheets. I'm interested to know though.

[@TalimaPictures]

@GingerDog. Your point of view is interesting. But for someone who already owns all the accessories you have mentioned, the price does not go up. Like any other camera, this is not aimed at everyone. I work within the blackmagic ecosystem, so so I pretty much own all the accessories you mentioned. So I see this camera as an alternative form factor within an already existing ecosystem.

[@ginger_dog]

You are in an ideal situation! That sound fantastic. I agree with you completely: this is not aimed at everyone and certainly is a fantastic option for a specific use case. My purpose was exposing things that make it un-ideal for a videographer in my shoes. It absolutely is a great camera for many people and especially those who don't have issues with the issues I brought up.

[@TalimaPictures]

@@ginger_dog very true.

[@half-cockedproductions1350]

You mean the cinema camera doesn’t fit your videography needs? Shocking.

[@andynonimuss6298]

Exactly! The controversy is specifically between Indy solo shooters who want a handycam vs. production team shooters.

[@revelmediatt]

@@andynonimuss6298 Exactly. He needs a Sony lol.

[@RPMusicStudios]

Most people looking at this camera already own most of those accessories. I own 3 bmpcc 6ks . Og, g2 and pro. The file sizes are big but the images are awesome. I definitely wouldn’t by them for interviews. Music videos, short docs, KZbin (Atem mini pro) This camera comes with a locking EF mount which will be great for all of us using follow focus systems. As with ALL camera there are pros and cons for most users.

[@ThomasTulak]

thats exactly right! the target customer for this camera is gonna rig it out, and already has the rest, or most of the rest of the rig, and they just need the right brain... not every camera is meant for every shooter, and those people who are confused about the features of this camera are probly not the target audience for it!

[@ginger_dog]

Spot on. Well said.

[@ginger_dog]

@@ThomasTulak Exactly! For sure.

[@frankfarago2825]

@@ThomasTulak Wow, so you have the "rig" already for this Pyxis, right? Like the pro-class 3.5mm and mini-XLR connected microphones? And the external vireewfinder or monitor that has a USB-C input? Cool. Do you think everyone else out there has those as well?

[@ThomasTulak]

@@frankfarago2825 no, obviously not... but if you don't already have all the necessary rig accessories (or are able to get them) than this camera is not meant for you. If you are running a mic directly into the camera, at all, then this camera is not meant for you. Thats why they have the BMCC6K. Same censor and internals, just a different body. one is meant for someone who has rig accessories, the other I meant for someone that doesn't. Neither one is better or worse, they are just different shooting styles. It's just important to know this. It's really not a hard concept, not every camera is right for every shooter.

[@davidclein]

Thank you

[@actionteamministry1777]

One of the biggest + I greatly appreciate of the #GingerDog channel is how you don’t “bury the lede”. You state clearly up front what your final summation is. And then you lay it out all of the reasons of how you got there. Much appreciated. And any post that included the phrases “…pixel peeping” is a HUGE+. Keep barking up great posts like this one.

[@ginger_dog]

Thank you! Preciate that.

[@Artfulscience1]

I can’t believe how much people rag on new camera releases as though it’s actually a terrible product. Jeez

[@blackicestudios]

All they are doing is giving their perspective on caveats associated with the release and that’s perfectly fine. Very few cameras are perfect. BMD’s demographic always want everything in there but everything comes at a cost, so does practicality.

[@ginger_dog]

Not terrible, just a very specific use case and a poor option for someone in my shoes or similar.

[@ginger_dog]

@@blackicestudios Amen. Well said. Absolutely agree. Thank you.

[@dp_zee]

The rolling shutter is one of the worst I've seen on a modern day camera.

[@Sethmotley]

@@dp_zeebuy a camera with global shutter problem solved.

[@MacabrePictures]

I own a couple of older Canon c100 mkii cameras and the Pocket 6k Pro and consider them different tools for different kinds of jobs. Honestly, the storage space isn't that much of an issue in practice. In RAW 6k at 12:1 compression you get about 4 hours of footage per TB. Thats actually a bit smaller file size than ProRes HQ and RAW is much more flexible. What you gain in return for larger file sizes is a ton of flexibility when grading your image. I think its a fair trade, particularly for narrative work like short films, music videos etc.... For that kind of work, its hard to do better for the price than blackmagic cameras. Also, just to add that yiu don't need a beefy computer to edit blackmagic raw if you use Davinci Resolve. I edit on a 2015 iMac and it handles the BRAW without any lag or crashing. I do drop the project resolution to 1080 for editing and grading though and put it back to 4k or UHD when exporting but doing this doesn't cause any issues.

[@frankfarago2825]

I use various editing programs (in Linux), and as for BlackmagicRAW = no can't do. Why compress RAW? Just use a regular compressed codec, not RAW.

[@MacabrePictures]

@@frankfarago2825 Compressed RAW gives you greater flexibility with grading as you can adjust white balance and ISO in post.

[@verebellus]

its not even out yet

[@ginger_dog]

Nope, it's not. None of the KZbin videos on this camera are claiming it is. We're just sharing reactions to the spec sheets on it.

[@verebellus]

@@ginger_dog if that's the case, i feel that the title is misleading

[@daniellove162]

If you shoot films with a disciplined shot list (traditionally shot on FILM) this camera is great. If you shoot content that has always been traditionally shot on video this camera is not for you. I would neeeeeever try to shoot corporate testimonial videos on film and complain about the price of film stock.

[@ginger_dog]

Ha ha. Right on. For sure. Totally agree. For those wanting to do projects traditionally shot on film, this is an incredible entry point into that world.

[@stephenhigginbotham8523]

If you shoot films with a disciplined shot list, then shoot on something like Arri, RED, or a Sony CineAlta. This camera's main appeal is it's price point. It doesn't do anything new that other cameras don't it just does it at a cheaper price. And it's price point coincides with the segment of the market that does more corporate type shooting.

[@daniellove162]

@@stephenhigginbotham8523 - Shooting short films on a camera like this is great. Especially if you want to keep a BRAW work flow in davinci. By the way, disciplined film habits START on small budget films with inexpensive equipment.

[@daniellove162]

@@stephenhigginbotham8523 - At the production house I work for I shoot everything on FX3s or Venice 1 or 2 and edit in Premiere. I personally want to buy a Black Magic camera and go to a davinci BRAW work flow on personally fund d projects. I’m not going to start non professional habits because my budgets are smaller.

[@ginger_dog]

@@stephenhigginbotham8523 Touché.

[@waveland]

FYI: I shot a short over a 4 day span with two CC 6ks with one 512k card each at 8:1 6K Open Gate (backing up regularly, but not clearing files off the card) and I never had to swap out either card. You’re truly making a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to file sizes.

[@ginger_dog]

Wow, good for you. I was using the calculator on Blackmagic's webpage specific for the PYXIS. Pulling the information they are giving us. Once people get their hands on it, we'll really know.

[@waveland]

@@ginger_dog I’ve done a few rough comparisons between ProRes and BRAW and there isn’t much difference in file size. Maybe ProRes LT saves some space, but when you can buy 4TB SSDs these days for $250, to me it doesn’t matter. What’s more important in terms of workflow is that I can shoot in the “Film” color profile in camera (widest dynamic range), drop the clips into Resolve, specify the Color Managed Workflow and Resolve automatically applies a beautiful rec.709 (or HDR if you need it) which underneath is still completely adjustable RAW image information. You can of course switch to other color spaces if needed without much trouble, but for the non-profit sorts of shoots you mention, Color Management does great, and then you render out in whatever format you need. Very simple and efficient. And if later on a client comes back and asks for an HDR render, the color information is there. Anyway, the Pyxis isn’t perfect and needs to mature as a platform (such as with an accessory screen which costs maybe half the price of the EVF), and I certainly won’t complain when BM rolls out a faster sensor for this form factor. But for a lot of the bread and butter work done by filmmakers and videographers, this is a hell of a good deal.

[@marshallartsentertainment3741]

Where can we see the short movie?

[@johnpaullennon1199]

Still waiting on the next BM global shutter camera.....

[@RedPhoenixMedia]

Did this guy just say Canons color science is on par with blackmagic? You saying that made your entire review irrelevant.

[@Sethmotley]

😂

[@ginger_dog]

To be precise, I believe my exact phrase was "nearly on par..."

[@usynligfilm]

@@ginger_dog outrageous statement

[@stephenhigginbotham8523]

Personally I've always hated the Blackmagic color science. Way too orange. Arri has the gold standard obviously, and RED is not far behind. Sony is one of my favorites, really like the way it renders skin tones. For me Canon looks pretty good out of the box, but has a little much red. But I've never been drawn to Blackmagics look. Sure you can grade it to something you like, but it takes work to get there. The main appeal of Blackmagic is the price, not the image.

[@ginger_dog]

@@stephenhigginbotham8523 Spoken from a man with a lot of experience with cameras on set and footage in post. Well observed!

[@sa.t.2507]

I say it again: Save up some more money and get an used FX6 instead. Same compact body but so much more functions.

[@robinmc123]

For what you want do. You can do with a camcorder. IMHO

[@KasiaLuther_Irix]

It's such a thrill to witness Irix lenses commanding attention on the latest Black Magic camera! A big thank you for your confidence in Irix's abilities and for acknowledging their unique contribution!

[@frankfarago2825]

Yeah, IRIS makes great cine lenses. As do at least 101 other lens manufacturers.

[@benhernandez]

You could purchase the ursa for $4k with everything you are asking for....

[@AfricanFilmmaker]

mmh, I didn't think of that! its a good point, I have been looking at his Pyxis very closer even made a video about it, I should look to this direction you just suggested!

[@adamallington4717]

I understand your frustration. What I really wanted was the faster rolling shutter, higher dynamic range, and pro-res workflow of the Ursa Mini Pro G2, in something that is more gimbal workflow friendly. I did not want the pocket cam sensor, full frame, lack of N-D to accomplish that either sadly. I would happily pay 8k for the camera I did want, but for now will just hold onto the pocket 4k and my og ronin-s until I can get a system that will fly the ursa well. I really do think the g2 is the real poor man's arri. It's the closest image I've used to it. The c500ii is alright. I am not surprised it's come down from 25k to 7.5k used though, that's closer to it's actual value. I shot two full length documentaries on it during the pandemic. A camera that had the autofocus system of the c500ii, a full-frame 6k sensor, an internal compressed raw, and pro-res would be a dream camera for me. I'd pay like 10-12 k for something like that. I still see the proprietary canon codecs as them being too stingy to license pro-res on their cameras, and forcing us to compromise with a less edit friendly codec, but maybe I'm missing something. I never had a chance to use canon raw light during my time on it, and we ended up recording externally to pro-res anyways for the editor, and just using the internal cards with .mxf or whatever canon uses as backups.

[@ginger_dog]

Thank you for sharing. Sensible insight.

[@frankfarago2825]

These days, you want a samera with a sensor ranging from 6.5K to 8K. A Blackmagic-cam with a 12K sensor is a tad idiotic IMHO. Also, record internally in ProRes, at least up to ProRes HQ 422.

[@johnzuluetafilms5226]

why are you shooting in 10bit, when bm 12bit raw is less the size of other cameras 10bit codec

[@Archiemladen]

I totally agree.

[@ceasarstudioceasarbelliard7873]

This camera was probably built for Film makers not content creators. And I think a film maker wouldn't be interested because of the sensor issues and other things. Black magic is not thinking right they getting like Atomos.

[@ginger_dog]

It certainly has a use case in mind with its design. How satisfying it will be for that use case will be determined when it finally releases.

[@chrisjenkins9978]

All the extra equipment you complained about is buy-once-use-anywhere for the rest of your life. You really aren’t making valid points.

[@ginger_dog]

True. My caution was to those who don't have those pieces yet. Warning them that the $3k price tag isn't going to be that when all is said and done. For someone who has those pieces, it absolutely will be.

[@FilmAndStar]

Amen !

[@HeathcliffBlair]

Thanks. To be fair to BM, the only aspect that significantly limits the camera is the lack of an operator facing screen. The rest are par for the course and were featured in their earlier 6K ff camera. Frankly, I don't think they're a big problem. You work within the limits of ANY camera. The screen issue, however, was completely avoidable and easily solved with a flip-out system. It might have pushed up the camera's price a bit, but so what? It would have provided an incredibly efficient solution for single shooters. I think a Pyxis 6kPro will magically solve this... which might have been the plan all along. 😉

[@ginger_dog]

I largely agree. I think we all find the camera specs that matter the most to us on a shoot and find cameras that are strong in those and weak in areas that don't matter for our use cases. No one will have the perfect camera, but can find a super solid one. I'm really perplexed why they didn't do a flip-out system like the URSA. I think this will be a big complaint from a lot of people. They could help themselves a lot by not needing two lines of so many cameras (normal and pro) for simple things like ND and flip out LCD screens.

[@hbp_]

Or why they just didn't do it like the FX6? It looks more like the FX6 than a "box" to me.

[@tysoneggum6380]

As someone that uses a lot of broadcast and cinema equipment on a day to day, I can say this camera is mind blowing for the price. I would use this on a professional shoot any day.

[@ginger_dog]

True that.

[@cinepoemata2703]

Thank you, Ginger dog. So many reasons not to buy this boxy thing everyone of us was after.. 10 years ago. This is frustrating. We want the real magic back!

[@ginger_dog]

True. I feel that with most BM new camera lines. Hopefully the 2nd or 3rd iteration of this camera will be more useful to more people. This will be fantastic for many users right now, but unfortunately not as many as it could have with a few tweaks.

[@tnfilmmaker]

I agree completely. The 6k Pro is a much more versatile solution and now the price of it used is sure to drop like a stone! I'm sure we will see a pro version of the box camera soon enough.

[@ginger_dog]

I just love the form factor of a box cinema camera so much more than the pocket pro/c70/fx3 form factor.

[@tnfilmmaker]

@@ginger_dog I agree but I'd rather have ProRes and NDs with a workable built in monitor and $2k left over!

I want the mft version of this :) whith hdmi out. I like this one too.

[@dennisallen287]

Coming from a Red Komodo and FX3 user that will use an SSD to film on this Blackmagic. Your complaints are invalid sir.

[@JeffBourke]

OMG - RAW ONLY???? I thought All-I only on the FX6 was bad enough!!!

[@ginger_dog]

For RAW, it is impressive the file sizes it can pump out, but yes, you get nothing but a RAW workflow.

[@mr.bigglesworthyoumagnific4281]

Yea, you talked me out of it..Panasonic EVA 1 my next camera..go along with my Lumix bgh1..

[@ginger_dog]

I hope you enjoy your new camera when you get it.

[@markh10001]

This appears to be yet another youtuber that has no intention of ever buying any blackmagic products, but wants to jump on the bandwagon.

[@ginger_dog]

...Hmmmm maybe. I'd love to experiment with the URSA line soon. I'll probably stick with Canon honestly. One of my favorite videographers shoots on nothing but Blackmagic and I love his work.

[@about30seconds27]

Yeah, I dont think anybody would talk about BMD that way if they'd actually used and worked with it. The image quality, the smoothness with Braw and Davinci is unbeatable at the price point!

[@IanBPM]

Despite all of the excitement, I’m happy with my Canon C300 MK III.

[@1031films]

I’m not sure this camera is for content creators or video testimonials. The PC6K is fine for that. This, IMO is a filmmaking camera.

[@ginger_dog]

Yes, you are absolutely right which is, in essence, the purpose of my video. This camera is a fabulous option for a certain kind of filmmaker but not at all good for content creators or corporate videographers of a certain kind. Those guys tend to by my audience on this channel and thought this camera's main selling points would be very exciting to content creators, a little digging reveals that it is not a good option for them. That is my whole point. I guess I needed to articulate that much more clearly.

[@SamuelIrias]

People wanting/needing a cube form camera already have these extra expenses in mind or already have the needed to rig the camera. This isn't a dslr style camera

[@NakeanWickliff]

​ @ginger_dog If you shoot doc or corporate work you would have been shooting ProRes or DNxHR for years and those are 5x the files size of 12:1 BRAW! It's obvious you haven't shot on the camera or used BRAW. You also don't need a beefy computer as it doesn't have to uncompress and decode on the fly in your NLE. It cuts like BUTTER! I wish I could use a BM camera again but I need autofocus and my stills work is done with Sony glass and bodies so.... The fact that more than half of this video is about file size is bonkers!

[@ginger_dog]

Fare enough. I definitely have been filming my corporate and doc work on old technology for sure. Looking to upgrade as soon as I can.

[@ginnodizon6551]

id been shooting on dng raw ever since i do shortfilm very heavy on pc, but im happy with it. infact when i switch to braw i missed it, how heavy the files are and how sloppy in editing. but it was enjoyable.

[@Hoptropolis]

Hey man just to let you know that you have to manually change the storage size option on Blackmagic Raw tab, I think you thought that it had calculated 1tb of storage size but that's not the case. It also depends on the ratio you're choosing, you can shoot 6k open gate and get 30 mins of footage totalling 128gb on a 12:1 ratio, which is the ratio you would use for one man band projects, and shooting 4k DCI would give you 1.2 hours of footage using 128gb storage space, using constant bitrate.

[@ginger_dog]

Hey, thanks for your comment. I tried what you said, and it was calculating for 1 TB automatically. I manually selected the 1 TB and the numbers I presented seem accurate. Yes, I did play around with some of the ratios too. Not sure if you are getting different results than I am or not and why.

[@heroaomedia]

@@ginger_dog yeah I shoot in b-raw 12-1 and I'll do about 4 hours of footage and maybe hit 300/400 GB...

[@SunriseRCAviator]

BMD Always makes odd cameras. Who is this for? Working cinematographers use the best so that's Arri or Venice.

[@frankfarago2825]

Here in Budapest, ARRI REENTAL has a 4000 square meter rental shop. They have the second largest camera rental place in the world, with app. 850 cinam-class cameras, I was told. Most of what they rent are Arri Alexas, of course. And also some Canons, Reds, Sonys, and even a a few Panasonics. What they do not have at all: Blackmagic cameras.

[@colinthomas2525]

This camera is perfectly fine for everything. Side screen is not an issue and neither is the dynamic range. It’s a very versatile camera period priced amazingly.

[@7notemode]

Ouch!

[@ginger_dog]

Ha ha. Sorry.

[@submariner1348]

So much misguided opinion in this video. When shooting BM Raw ratios are vital for file size. Of note, BM did not make this camera for KZbinrs, there are plenty of other cameras in their range suitable and yes these are half the price of the competition

[@ginger_dog]

Yes, I cherry picked a few different codecs for files sizes. Basically the extremes, but hopefully people can play around with the tool themselves and see if it makes sense for them. Certainly not a KZbin camera and neither is the C500 Mkii or the Burano. But this will be a great camera for other use cases for sure.

[@JJDelMar]

You are not liking Blackmagic RAW, but at the same time praising a low quality codec like H264. That makes no sense. About this camera, I am not using it. I still find the Pocket series way more usable than this camera. People don't understand when to use full frame. About the box form factor, well if vloggers could not correctly rig the Pocket cameras that only speaks towards their inability as "filmmakers"....

[@ginger_dog]

It's not that I don't like BM RAW; it's that I don't like the fact that that is the only codec you can record in. BM RAW is a fabulous RAW codec, but many projects don't warrant a RAW workflow. RAW only narrows the market appeal for this camera to those who exclusively shoot music videos, narratives, and some docs.

[@andynonimuss6298]

The controversy is specifically between Indy solo shooters vs. production team shooters. The Pyxis is NOT meant to be a handycam with a little flip-out screen you take on your family vacation! Blackmagic will have an external camera control monitor soon. All REDs and all ARRIs have 7" control monitors on top. ARRI has their own camera control monitor the CCM-1 7” LCD screen. RED has their own DSMC2 and DSMC3 7.0" LCD screens. The Pyxis is a production set camera not a freak'in handycam.

[@ginger_dog]

Right on. Handycam is a bit of a strawman as the C500 Mkii isn't a handycam either. But to your point, yes, the PYXIS is made for multi-crew low budget narrative films, music videos, mid budget ads, etc.

[@andynonimuss6298]

@@ginger_dog Yeah, I was being a bit facetious with the handycam comment... he he. I preordered the Pyxis this morning (L-mount) from B&H. Super excited to get going with it this summer!

[@ginger_dog]

@@andynonimuss6298 Awesome! Can't wait to hear how it performs in the field for you! Make great art!

[@CCozart]

Confusion is a fanboy emotional statement that only applies to the feelings of the one confused. Thanks God that we have the good sense to evaluate things with measurable standards that don't include supplanting factual inquiry with sensationalism!!

[@ginger_dog]

Sorry, that comment is very confusing. Not sure what you are saying or how to respond.

[@victorcasillas8057]

Going all the way back to original pocket camera, which own and still use, I have been hearing the same complaints from people who shoot video. These are cinema cameras, they need to be rigged out. This was true for original pocket camera as I mentioned and its true for this camera. By the way, its true for RED cameras, Sony Cameras, Arri cameras, all cinema cameras.

[@ginger_dog]

Yes. Some cameras require more rigging than others. Some could squeak by with little to know rigging. BM tends to require more rigging than the competition.

[@aranthar]

Many complains in this video are invalid for me. First, look at price of t7 shield 1tb, it is cheapest solution, very popular and reliable. Second, you showing us calculating for open gate q0 quality and yes, it is drive space consuming, but for most scenarios every user shoot at 6k 17:9 12:1 or 8:1 and numbers then are a way more different ;) Flip screen is totally wishful thinking. To do it in real there are 3 big downside solutions: 1. Hidden buttons behind screen- no fast avaibility, 2. Bigger camera to fit buttons and same size screen, 3. Much smaller rotatable screen with same layout of button So, there was no good solution, I think this camera is designed to use with rig, external evf or monitor, harder mount on ronin, like Komodo or zcams and I’m ok with that ;)

[@Xero_Wolf]

I'm always curious as to who these videos are really for. I know youtubers gotta make content but I can't see any professions looking at a camera like the PYXIS and not knowing what their getting into. I realize at the price point you will get a lot of people on a lower budget eyeing it but I find many complaints are from a stand point where this camera is clearly NOT for you. Let's just take the complaint about the lack of ND filters for example. Name another $3,000 cinema camera that has built in NDs? Or a 5 inch LCD screen or an EVF or a compressed RAW format that's easy to edit? Honestly the cost to rig out and the file size issues are really non issues for the filmmakers Blackmagic is making this camera for.

[@ginger_dog]

Actually, agreed. This video was more of a warning shot to those filmmakers whom Blackmagic is not making the camera but might be initially attracted to certain specs. But you are absolutely right.

[@karlsma7245]

The thing you need to compare this to is the Komodo. That's its real competition. It's a box cinema camera. You would have all the same complaints but at more than 2X the price. That's what this camera is, a budget Komodo. If a Komodo won't work for you, neither will this.

[@rodrocketon9480]

The RAW only and even worse NO ND FILTERS are complete deal breakers for me.

[@ginger_dog]

I agree.

[@ElyJrTheatre]

Y’all mad because this man posting his opinion. I hope y’all keep that same energy when black magic releases the pro version with all of these issues that you guys are defending are fixed.

[@NakeanWickliff]

I think we're just confused as to why he thinks 40MB/s for recording raw creates large files. We've been shooting 220MB/s for year in ProRes 422 HQ and DNxHR. This is literally 1/5th of the size, AND its raw!

[@ginger_dog]

Ha ha. Thanks Sir.

[@ginger_dog]

@@NakeanWickliff Well, according to their website, it's anything from 8MB/s to 554MB/s depending on if you're in HD or 6K, but if you're already used to filling HDs this quickly, this is a non-issue for sure.

[@NakeanWickliff]

@@ginger_dog Hard drives are cheap my friend. It's not whether you are in HD or 6K it's more about what compression ratio you chose to use.

[@ginger_dog]

@@NakeanWickliff Understood. That's why I did the extremes of both resolution and compression ratios to show the highest combo and lowest combo and give people a taste for how they can play around with it more themselves. Honestly, for RAW, it is impressive, but still tones more space used than corporate/social media videographers need. Guys in the narrative/music video space don't care about that nearly as much.

[@ThomasTulak]

Every Blackmagic camera from the Ursa 12K on is stuck in only shooting Braw. Blackmagic does not want to pay the Apple licensing fee for ProRez... Also, while not every camera is meant for every shooter, and it sounds like a box style riggable camera is not ideal for your specific use case, (the right tool for the right job) there is actually a much stronger competitor to the Pyxis. The Zcam E2F6 is also a full frame 6K box style camera, and is also $3K... I compare these two cameras, and address a bunch of the other issues you raised in my Pyxis video... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHuWfoqpbKp_pJY

[@hbp_]

Broadcast G2 can shoot in ProRes and H.26x too. Unfortunately H.26x, which is the most used in broadcast, has been "broken" every time I have tried it (at least with Resolve). Somehow it breaks on clipping highlights in a way that causes artifacts in the whole frame. It seems to be a problem within the encoder BMD is using, because it also happens with proxies generated from clips from other cameras. Notably it doesn't happen with the original H.26x clips from other cameras. Hence, it must be a feature of BMDs H.26x codecs.

[@Sethmotley]

What gets me is there are a lot of non BMD users out there making videos and complaining about a camera they would never buy or even use. I’ve been asking for a box camera from BMD and they delivered the BMCC6K FF in a box so stop hating on something you never asked for. My preorder is in and there is no ugly truth about this camera or the price range so stick with the overpriced Sony and Canon cameras then compare the images to BMD cameras then see if that extra $4000 got you better quality images.

[@ginger_dog]

I'm sure you're going to get killer images out of the PYXIS. It's going to be a fantastic camera for a lot of people and hopefully exactly what you have needed. No doubt at all.

[@viswanathkumar3106]

Choose the best acronym for PYXIS keeping 13 stop dynamic range in mind. Reply in comment 1. Perhaps You'll X-perience Image Sadness. 2. Purely Yet X-traordinarily Ineffective Sensor. 3. Pathetically Yielding X-clusively Illogical Scenes 4. Please Yield - Xtremely Inferior Sensor. 5. Pretends to Yield X-cellent Images, Sike! 6. Pointlessly Yielding Xero Image Success. 7. Permanently Yielding X-clusively Insufficient Shots 8. Probably Your X-worst Investment in Sensor.

[@ginger_dog]

Wow! You spent a lot of time on that. I wonder if any of these will turn out to be a thing in the industry. Honestly, gen 1 of every camera model is going to suck compared to mkii and iii of them.

[@YeetMusic]

THIS is a film camera not a content creator camera -

[@ThisIsLeeBird]

What’s with all these people wanting a $12k camera for $3000? 😂😂😂😂

[@ginger_dog]

Ha ha! True dat.

[@johnycane]

Every problem you mentioned here is solved by buying a different Blackmagic camera...not every camera released needs to be perfect for you.

[@ginger_dog]

Oh, of course. There are so many use cases for cameras, that we need cameras that are strong in different areas and lacking in others. That's the whole point of this video: not to say this is a bad camera, but point out that it is not good for my particular target audience. If you track most of my 1k+ subscribers, they come from a use case of videography that this would not make a good option for.

[@andredemony]

You are not the target audience for the Pyxis mate. Blackmagic does Cameras for other people too, not just for videographers with your needs. The Pyxis is a Komodo replacement for half the price with a larger monitor and minus a global shutter. A monitor for the Komodo is almost as expensive as this camera. BM now has cameras in three different form factors. choose another one. It's very simple. You seem to need a video camera like the Canon C line. For that there is and there will be the Ursa Mini line. Would it make sense to complain about how the Komodo doesn't have this or that because you would want RED to make a video camera? I don't understand the time people take to bash a camera that is not for their needs. You could review a camera that it IS for you instead and spread enthusiams rathe than negativity, maybe?

[@ginger_dog]

100% accurate.

[@EnlightenedImages]

Man a bunch of sensitive haters out there! Well I do solo shoots and larger crews too and you brought up some great points. One of the best things about my 6K Pro are the ND filters. I also don't like going back to just one audio input. The mini XLR port is no problem but why just one? But the biggest factor to me is the crop factor when shooting less than 6K. My GH6 shoots 120 4K no crop. And there are plenty of times I just want to shoot ProRes to hand off to a client. Of course it has limitations at that price point but still seems like they take two steps forward and one step back on their releases.

[@ginger_dog]

Wow, thank you for your encouragement. That honestly is refreshing. I'm glad this video found someone it was helpful to! Ha ha. I agree. Most (not all) Blackmagic releases puzzle me in that way. That go way above and beyond the competition in some areas and come up way short in others. I totally agree with your analysis.

[@EnlightenedImages]

@@ginger_dog Its not just Blackmagic. Panasonic confounds me by releasing different models with varying features. e.g the G9 with hybrid AF but no fan. But as always the Holy Grail "perfect camera" is right around the corner. haha Rumors say a mirrorless Panasonic with ND and hybrid AF, no crop slow mo etc.

[@ginger_dog]

@@EnlightenedImages Ha ha. Got that right.

[@shawnmiller8169]

As far as I understand, the GH6 shoots at 120 4k without windowing because it's not raw capture. The only modern cameras that can capture different raw frame sizes without windowing are the ones with BMD RGBW sensors... the Ursa Mini 12k (OG) and the Ursa Cine 12k and 17k.

[@ginger_dog]

@@shawnmiller8169 Canon C500 Mkii?

[@PerroLandaeta]

i believe pyxis is not what was expected to be... lots of flaws... only braw is one... crop sensor is another... NO V-MOUNT?!?!? is is a nice try tho... Kinefinity Mavo MKII is wining right now

[@ginnodizon6551]

who says kinefinity Mavo is winning hahaha. its only who is saying it. well i think this camera is not for you. film makers love this camera

[@PerroLandaeta]

​@@ginnodizon6551 i am a filmmaker.. been for 15 years... this camera doesnt have it ... maybe future versions of it will

[@lonceyswildcairns333]

And don’t forget the poor autofocus and the fact that you’ll have to get the DJI LiDAR focus system, adding way more cost and weight then the Fx6 haha 😂😝🤔🤪😊❤️

[@ginger_dog]

Well, honestly, this camera is designed more for filmmakers doing narrative work in which you will probably want to shoot manual focus. But yes, videographers like myself would prefer an autofocus system.

[@lonceyswildcairns333]

@@ginger_dog True that, except ZE - E1 has less rolling shutter so no need to do post most times ☺️❤️

[@jeansebastienleger]

It's funny to see all those KZbinrs complaining over this camera...and 6 months later when everyone will join the hype wagon: "" I sold my xxxxx to get this amazing camera, the Pyxis !😅 Feel like a "déjà vu" 😂 An advice guys: Simply rent it when it comes out and don't listen to anyone...just make your own decision ;-)

[@rodrocketon9480]

And once again, I will be sticking with SONY. Great video - thanks.

[@ginger_dog]

Thank you.

[@correaivang]

I'm only 38 seconds in but obviously this camera isn't for you. Next video.

[@michaelfardell8239]

bro, the camera is cheap. how can you complain!

[@hamdanhareb5655]

this is cine cam

[@hanna_m_issa]

you are a sony baby, right? good luck with that! you will never get it.

[@ginger_dog]

Canon actually, but close.

[@phrasalsyntax]

@@ginger_dog well, basically you are a mirrorless baby, you love the 'video' look, you will never get it

[@andynonimuss6298]

This controversy is specifically between Indy solo shooters who want a handycam vs. production team shooters.

[@tythebelieveguy4228]

This video is very premature…

[@ginger_dog]

All of the videos on KZbin for this camera right now are all reactions to the spec sheets. Of course it is premature to know exact use case and practical outcomes, but nobody knows that yet. It's ok for people to share thoughts and reactions to releases like this as we anticipate the official launch.

[@about30seconds27]

So true 😆 The complain-train is on!!

[@phrasalsyntax]

come on ​@ginger_dog, since the Pyxis share the same sensor and specifications with the cinema camera 6K FF, you already have enough information not to make this dishonest post that you did (just to get clicks I assume). kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJ6moZuop9uKjaM

[@ginnodizon6551]

i dunno whats wrong with people! hahaha. if you dont want the camera dont buy it! basically this guy is not a film maker. no this video is not helpful. i think it is spreading the wrong information because basically this camera is obviously not for him. thats the problem nowadays, when the platform is given to this kind of people, who can say whatever they wanna say. hahaha.

[@valenciosmall1683]

ginger dog is an appropriate name, instead of waisting time talking about a camera you wanted to hate from the start why don't you talk about the gear you actually have, and do something positive for a change .

[@ginger_dog]

Correction: nearly every video I have on my channel regarding gear is on gear I actually have and use and is quite positive. So I wouldn't be changing anything making the content you suggest. This video was actually a change from the content you suggest. Of my 92 videos, this may be the only one that is primarily negative and it is only negative from my particular use case. PYXIS will be a fantastic camera for many people, but not most people. I also wanted to like this camera when I saw Blackmagic finally had a small box style cinema camera and it was 6K full frame. Super excited about that. After digging in, I realized there would be a lot of cons about it for me. That's why I made it. Nobody owns this camera so none of the videos on KZbin about it are coming from anyone who actually has it. We're all sharing opinions and perspective based off of spec sheets and Blackmagic's website.

[@AndieNow]

All of these are non issues.

[@ginger_dog]

Great. I knew they would be for a certain segment of videographers which is why this is a great option for many people but also really bad for others.

[@frankfarago2825]

Sadly, as a lover of Blackmagic products, such as cameras and accessories, I must say this latest one from them is pretty much a dud. Wait for the PRO variant coming out soon, if not this year, then by NAB Show 2025, surely.

[@SoulJazzDance]

This is ugly, but far from the truth. KZbin of us is a cesspool of misinformation from people talking about a certain field that they really have no clue about this. This is an excellent camera for Filmmaking. This guy goes on and on about what he uses I have no idea what he does, one thing for sure he’s pretty damn new at it. He comes off like a child who thinks that his father actually has all the money in the world but is not buying him a piece of bubblegum just because he’s a mean person. There’s reasons why there’s no filters it would’ve changed the price point. It would’ve changed the body. You can’t have everything, I was just waiting for the guy to say don’t hundred dollar bill. Did I just waste a small chunk of my existence listening to this whining?

[@ginger_dog]

This camera is certainly excellent for limited use cases of filmmaking, I do not deny that. Those use cases are few and limited. A few additional features or adjustments to existing features would have opened it up to be an excellent choice for far more use cases, but unfortunately, the way this is made makes it useful for a narrow segment of the market. On another note, I did try to be respectful in how I critiqued this camera and did not resort to name calling or belittling Blackmagic or their users. You should do likewise. Had you done a little digging on my channel, you would find that I have been a professional videographer for over a decade and though I am not the smartest person in the room when it comes to cameras, I am experienced and knowledgable on the subject and know what users like me need in gear. This channel along with this video is for solo shooting entrepreneurs who do corporate videography and documentary filmmaking. This camera is not for them and I addressed the specs that made it so. Please comment with maturity above the "cesspool" you criticize and do a little research into a person before you lambast them. It's one thing to criticize a piece of gear, it's another to belittle a person.

[@arunr4103]

You have no idea what you talking about , You are looking at this camera from your perspective which is a testimonial or live event wedding videograpers , you are unfamiliar with professonal filmmaking or filmmakers , sony or canon consumer cameras are more suitable for your kind of works , This camera is made for professonal filmmakers who don't want to invest lot of money on cameras like RED or URSA but to archive same result to release on big screen under $3000 ..

[@stephenhigginbotham8523]

If you are making films for the big screen, then you are using a something like an Arri, RED, or Venice. This is an excellent price point for doc work, and these criticisms are very valid for documentary filmmaking.

[@arunr4103]

@@stephenhigginbotham8523 That's a pity thing that how people judge quality upon price point there are plenty of feature films done on original Blackmagic pocket cinema camera which includes multi-million Avengers age of Ultron , by the way RIP to RED it's no more

[@stephenhigginbotham8523]

@@arunr4103 I have no problem with this camera. I just think these are valid criticisms for a camera in this price point. Something like internal ND's are incredibly useful.

[@arunr4103]

@@stephenhigginbotham8523 Not really necessary a good VND without colour cast will do the job

[@angeloplayforone]

This the issue with all this opinion. It comes from a user case that is not the target audience of the camera. He never said at the beginning what he shoots and with which cameras and why he is interested in Blackmagic. He shoots live documentary stuff which mirrorless cameras from Panasonic, Canon or Sony are more suited. The Blackmagic is targetting independent filmmakers or freelancers shooting narrative work.

[@plutoX1982]

I feel like your contents are using other Brands' Pros to against BM Cons, instead of doing it fairly. Too much bias

[@ginger_dog]

So yes, this is certainly a biased video. Every perspective will be. Because this camera was never designed to be a good fit for the kind of filmmaking I do, it's biggest features will be cons for me. Because other cameras are designed for my specific use case, and I referenced some of them, they will be pros. Pitting these aspects against one another is only fair in the context of my particular use case as a corporate videography/short form documentary filmmaker for low budget clients. Where I examining a use case like entry level narrative filmmaking or low budget indy filmmaking, this would be a different story and this camera, including some of the "cons" I mentioned would do very well. Those cons might even be pros.

[@plutoX1982]

@@ginger_dog I do agree with that this product might be not designed for your filming use cases or routines (no products actually do, otherwise accessories, software ect.. would never exits). But, this product may support others' purposes as well with alot of great features. I shouldnt bother to make any comment here because I believe right products will find their right customers. That is what Pyxis or any camera about (i was a Nikon user) But you stereotyped your own use case to create biased content to mislead audiences is ridiculous. It is not professional. Many would happily grab a 3k camera to learn, try, make or even fail rather than spend 10 thousands of dollars to something that unnecessarily bringing them a better result. Time will tell.

[@ginger_dog]

@@plutoX1982 Time will tell indeed. Thank you.

[@fujifuji9701]

Go buy gopro7😂😂

[@reyvaz2951]

Dude, just about everyone has external monitors, I got 4 you need one, so you can stop your crying, Samsung T9 2TB 80 min of straight recording, $220, you need more than, I'm surprise you're no crying about battery, oh you can't any more, you know what, why I'm even spending my time with someone like you.

[@frankfarago2825]

Wow, so you have got 4 monitors, do you now? Cool. Now, do all 4 of those babies come with 12G-SDI inputs? Or at least with USB Type C inputs? 'Cause if they don't, you are bragging about nothing here. No can't to with the Pyxis, see? Camera doesn't even come with an HDMI OUT jack, can you dig it?

[@reyvaz2951]

@@frankfarago2825 Of the camera its that good, I'll take the necessary measures, whatever they are, to correct the problem, what I will not do is, come here with this whining that you have here, of a problem that I do not have yet, because the camera is not even for sale, the company decides not to sell it tomorrow and you're doing all this drama for nothing. Life its good, smell the coffee.

[@leebrandt8597]

This video was a bunch of nonsense

[@AaronStowers]

Why are you giving bad reviews to cameras you don't own? And your argument on Blackmagic Raw is silly. This reminds me of those fictitious reviews USA Today used to do. Your reviews can't be trusted. I'm sorry.

[@ginger_dog]

First off, this isn't a review and I was very careful to avoid using that label anywhere in the title, thumbnail, or script. I take the title "Review" very serious and only apply it to gear I have had actual field use with (primarily gear I have owned and used on multiple client projects.) This, like every other video on KZbin about this camera is merely a reaction to the spec sheets and offerings of the camera. Only time will tell how this camera will perform in real life. I expect it to be amazing for a particular use case, but not a filmmaker like me.

[@AaronStowers]

@ginger_dog blah blah blah, it was a bogus review, so own it.

[@kurtnelle]

What a strange, uninformed point of view.

[@jayvelasquez8036]

The amount of crying is unreal 😂

[@kairat84]

what a pessimistic person

[@PridelovalecSipka]

I dont agree, but I like you as a person so leaving a like.

[@ginger_dog]

Totally respect that and thank you. As I've mentioned in the comments, this will be a fabulous camera for a few use cases and I'm excited to see those filmmakers make the most out of it.

[@chrisiclickyou3947]

Agreed. No ND. Large Files. Auto-focus is average.