HULK (2003) is SMARTER Than You Think

[@Valtuem]

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[@BgChf-dg5lv]

Every hulk transformation is sparked by emotional trauma. Talbot beating him in the house didn’t set him off. Talbot not listening and not letting him run to save Betty is what sets it off.

[@anubusx]

You wouldn't like him when he's Ang Lee.

[@ambika69]

One of the problems with nanomachines IRL is that, powering the little buggers is a trick and a half. It's one of the reasons grey goo is a fairly silly scenario. Beaming them with some sort of energy is one of the proposed methods of getting around this limitation and most forms of energy either dont absorb well or dont penetrate material which the nanomachines would be working within. So Gamma and Xrays have been proposed, as both have been shown to generate a spark when passing through specific medium. This could solve most of the problems. Theoretically.

[@MalkuthEmperor]

23:59 "lucid shaving" 😂 I love it ! Subin to that Cheers (not that i wasnt bought already with some other jokes xd)

[@mirceazaharia2094]

I absolutely adore this movie. It is at least three to four times as good as the actual MCU film "The Incredible Hulk" from 2008, which was adequate at best.

[@SpFlash1523]

Remember the days when Bruce Banner/Hulk was treated with gravitas and nuance, and was NOT treated as comedic relief or a punching bag? I miss those days...

[@Fighttilltheend0136]

Yep

[@Abridgimation]

You just summed up every character in the MCU after the first Avengers film, although that didn't get anywhere near as bad until Endgame, and post-Endgame.

[@Martyn_Wolf]

Not seen anything regarding Avengers or whatever it's called. I never will. Disney literally went Hulk on smashed its characters to woke shite from all I've heard over the the years

[@DrewLSsix]

​@@Martyn_Wolfwell.... you ate wrong and that's a stupid take. But good for you for admitting that you let others make your opinions for you lol, fucking loser.

[@_terrorbilly]

This is what happens when you write an anti-hero into a superhero and don't understand what to do with him next. They could've written Hulk into being friends with Black Widow, and the reason he wants to help The Avengers is because his friend is part of The Avengers. This could've made an arc of Natasha becoming more human while Hulk would be living a life without the government going after him and being left (mostly) alone.

[@Joe_Kerr_9797]

This movie was my introduction to The Hulk.

[@mytruthismoreuseful]

We were lucky!! People didn’t appreciate this masterpiece enough

[@albertthepeacock8020]

BRRRROOOOOOOO SAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMEEEEEEEE

[@thecowboy9698]

It was pretty much mine, too. I think I maybe saw one or two episodes of the series with Bill Bixby beforehand, but this was pretty-much my introduction to the character.

[@bobbyblazini]

As a kid, it was fun and interesting and dark.

[@animezilla4486]

It was the 90s cartoon series that aired on Fox kids which introduced me to the character also there was the X-Men series

[@FookMi69]

The way the _”TAKE IT ALL!!!!”_ line was delivered still goes hard to this day

[@jordanthomas3279]

dude that entire fuckin sequence bangs, the confrontation with his father, the dialogue just before they turn. And yeah, that final blow out was just *chefs kiss*. We don't have that sauce with CBM nowadays.

[@toferg.8264]

Heck yeah!

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Indeed

[@ChanceGuevara]

You think You can live with it?

[@Fairbranksthecat]

TO THIS DAY 🗣🗣🗣

[@andrewblissett2211]

Hulk is a lot like Shrek. They're both green, they're both scary, they're both strong...and they both have *layers.*

[@ChristianFrates1997]

But Shrek is funny.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

I think that’s why my dad mistook Hulk for Shrek.

[@thepirate8765]

They both like white women too.

[@skibbitybopity]

Either of them are like cake

[@zqninja3334]

Yeah he has pants but no undies

[@thehulkster17smash34]

The most comics-accurate live-action portrayal of the Hulk. One of my favorite films of all time.

[@thecowboy9698]

Mine as well. I saw The Incredible Hulk, back in 2008, and I have to confess that while I liked how it kinda incorporated elements of the TV show that starred the late Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno, I felt it lacked the quality of story that 2003s Hulk movie had.

[@shanedawndusk3290]

Same here

[@derekprospero]

Same. It’s so good. People were not ready for it when it came out.

[@RobinRhombusHead]

It's not one of my favourite films since the film itself is pretty poor quality but I do appreciate what it was trying to do and how they handled the Hulk as a character.

[@papaxota4725]

Massively underrated and its aging like fine wine as each year pass by

[@jonathanathor117]

Finally I'm not the only human that can appreciate this movie.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Same!

[@kennethlaurie7809]

No you're not the only one, I'm glad that this film has found its audience, all these video essays from Panel to Pixels, Superframe, Hitop films & many more. I've loved this film since I was 5 years old and have related to it and loved it more since.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@kennethlaurie7809 agreed, it actually made Hulk and Bruce more interesting.

[@jamall7003]

2 other youtubers already made videos about this movie a few weeks and a year ago. Idk why but alot of people is starting to appreciate this movie for some reason

[@Mike-vz6xg]

I have this on dvd 📀

[@kevinskywalker5539]

The reason why people hated it is because both, they weren't ready for a heavy psychological movie, and only see hulk as a green angry monster known for smashing things. But that is where they're wrong. He's more than that. He has layers. He's a troubled, traumatized man that so happens to turn into a angry creature due to his dad's experiments and the accidental gamma exposure.

[@petermj1098]

Nick Nolte David Banner was the worst part of the movie. He was too over top and his motivation sucked. Brian Banner from the comics had a better motivation for becoming a villian and is way more interesting. They should have just done Brian Banner/Devil Hulk.

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@petermj1098they didn't have that at the time

[@misterio337]

Stupid excuse just for you to look smart and omnipotent, so pretentious 🙄

[@kevinskywalker5539]

@@misterio337 , what's pretensios is that you think that. I wasn't trying to look smart. And wow, you woke up and chose to be a bully.

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@misterio337 maybe get your head out your ass

[@matrixman117edits7]

The film’s heart, story, and score all stand strong to me years later. The plot of a man coming to peace with his scars and abilities - and then learning to use them to help people - is something quite powerful.

[@sebswede9005]

Something that most MCU/Marvel movies are missing these days, DC movies are not, atleast the Zack Snyder's DC movies are not.

[@ConfessorCromwell444]

The film is way too mature for the majority of marvel fans to understand, as they just want to see an action film, not a study on trauma and psychology.

[@alexdann5909]

It isn't true. This movie is far from ideal even with all the ideas it has lol. If you like this movie but some other people don't, it doesn't mean that you're smart and they're stupid

[@ConfessorCromwell444]

@@alexdann5909 no one said anything about being smart or stupid.

[@Abridgimation]

not enough cameos, needs that Daredevil guy

[@alexdann5909]

@@ConfessorCromwell444 yeah it's why you wrote this comment to show that some "majority of fans" can't understand it but you're not the part of that "majority" of course.

[@ConfessorCromwell444]

@@alexdann5909 that's an idea you've made up in your head, it's not reality.

[@AcontheWebHead]

19:22 Throughout the entire movie of Ang Lee's Hulk, he doesn't ONCE transform out of the need of self-defense on physical means. Every time he transforms is from the repressed emotion of the Hulk. Even when he's tested on in the labs, it's the memories that trigger the Hulk, not the physical shocks. It's the fact that Betty is in danger, not because Talbot kicks his ass. When he transforms after his father becomes Zeus, it's because his hatred becomes so pure. It's the emotional aspect of this movie that I loved so much, and the Hulk is a big representation of repression.

[@Fighttilltheend0136]

Correct buddy 🦾,

[@zzodysseuszz]

Hulks not a representation of repression. He’s a representation of lost innocence. He’s the rage blackout trauma victims have when confronted with difficult emotions like anger or fear, turned into a more literal translation.

[@AcontheWebHead]

@@zzodysseuszz early after the first transformation, he's visited by Betty's dad. When he's confronted about the "explosion" and talks about his real parents, Bruce says he doesn't know any of this. Ross responds back mentioning repressed memories. So it's not that I'm wrong. It's that we're both right.

[@zzodysseuszz]

⁠@@AcontheWebHead no you’re still wrong. Hulk isn’t those repressed memories, hulk never emerged when he remembers things. He emerges whenever Bruce is confronted with difficult emotions. You can see almost identical behaviours with people who have DID: for example, people who lost their childhood to extreme abuse will often enter a rage blackout, where they become a completely different person who is overly aggressive and violent and sometimes will persist in this state for hours until anything that triggered that response is gone. The victim has no idea what happened and doesn’t remember any of it. It’s usually a response to strong emotional responses to yelling, anger, anything that engages past memories of the abuse. This personality is more rude, abrasive, aggressive, ostensibly avoidance as if afraid of interacting with others. This was usually a defence mechanism against being attacked and yelled at as a child. It’s very depressing when you read of people with these issues, but the brain does this to protect the person from a mental breakdown. Usually because the trauma is too much so they conscious needs a quick desperate escape. Hulk in this instance seems to be Bruce’s defence mechanism, acting as his rage blackout, when confronted with difficult thoughts or strong emotions. Hulks job is to get rid of the trigger or get away from it. To keep the conscious protected from a mental breakdown.

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@AcontheWebHead most of what I’m saying is directly tied to the comics, not any particular canon, which helps me discern a distinctive trend in the movie. The movie never expressively states the facts, so I’m piercing together the facts from how the film presents the information and how it correlates with the comic books explanations.

[@ShinnyShinnShinn]

This whole channel is exactly what the world needs. We need more Hulk. We need good Hulk

[@Mike-vz6xg]

This is the TRUE HULK STORY!!!! The emotional trauma. The insane father. The death Bruces mother. Being treated like a monster for no reason as a child. And of course the ANGER!!!!!

[@agreen3127]

So basically most folk were too stupid to appreciate this awesome movie

[@NomadFlow]

Exactly. Sadly many of these people are MCU fanatics which means they aren't even really comic book fans. That's because the original Marvel comic books took themselves seriously but the MCU fills their movies with so many jokes it's near a damn parody of itself. The fact that the MCU gets high praise is something out of a bizarro world.

[@SaitohYatate]

…Or too young. Children and young teens born in the 90s wouldn’t get this movie right away, regardless of their intellect.

[@baumber1919]

​@SaitohYatate I saw this hulk movie as a kid and despite that I could tell because of his father Bruce definitely got some trauma. I always stuck with this movie even when everyone collectively loved the 2008 version

[@archangelrapheal5231]

​@@baumber1919same, like this movie isn't getting much recognition because of the 2008 film and people just want to completely disregard this film because it's not part of the MCU, which I find pretty unfair

[@tysmosisjones]

@@SaitohYatate I was 7 when this came out and saw it in a booming theatre and as sad as this is, I already had context in real life as to what trauma is and does, I just really didn’t understand it. But I knew one thing, he’s always really mad at his father. Even as a 7 year old I knew that. Made for an awkward ride home lol.

[@kevinskywalker5539]

Plus, it's obvious that bruce banner is not a sunshine type character. He's lonely and has to be on the run, from people who are hunting him, or to avoid hurting people.

[@jackofalltraits2145]

As more of a casual fan of the Hulk, I can say that I adore this movie, warts in all. I love that it's more of a character study of Bruce Banner and how his childhood trauma affect him as the Hulk (I love a superhero movie that's character focused, like the Raimi Spider-Man movies). I love the weird comic book paneling. It sets this movie apart from others of it's kind and honestly I think it works wonders for this movie. I even love the Hulks design here the most, with the vibrant green and purple, and the fact that he grows bigger the more he gets angry. Great review of a misunderstood gem of a movie.

[@Erastoneus45]

It is also somewhat more accurate to hulk on the comic comparing to MCU version that did changes I did not like. Specially how they did Skar dirty on that she hulk series.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@Erastoneus45 they did everyone dirty in that show.

[@ParryPointBreak]

Couldn't of said it better myself 💚💯👌very well said💚

[@cinemaarts8795]

A Moon Knight movie done by Ang Lee would've been cool.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Dude, that would've been amazing!

[@misterio337]

No

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@misterio337 yes?

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

I was just thinking this either moon knight or multiple man

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn What are some Multiple man stories you think would make for a good movie?

[@colerogers3681]

I love how more and more people this year have been covering this film. It was not only my introduction to the Hulk back in 2003 when I was two, but comic book characters across the board.

[@MinMin4theWinWin]

I much prefer this hulk compared to the others...he's way greener, gets bigger the angrier he gets, and is so much cooler!

[@toferg.8264]

Heck yeah!

[@Soledoubt]

And, ironically, more human

[@XanVicious]

I can’t believe they reduced him to a cashmere sweater wearing hipster, sad to see.

[@rickkroll]

​@@XanViciousYou ever even picked up a comic? Bruce and hulk come in many different forms

[@XanVicious]

@@rickkroll yep, and this is his worst form. Imagine if they would’ve put World Destroyer Hulk on screen? Or even the better Ragnarok version of him? It’s a shame what they’ve done to him. HULK (2003) is the only film that’s done him justice.

[@adrianrocha6844]

This movie made me a fan of Hulk and I like how Ang Lee made a perfect adaptation of Hulk

[@UnoDinero95001]

That mirror scene traumatized tf outta me as a kid😂

[@EmberBright2077]

Same

[@maldon3659]

That and the scene where Hulk opens the door from Bruce's Childhood in his mind

[@ZakaryShindle1-933]

Him roaring after shouting TAKE IT AAAAAAAAAALLL!!!!!! to his father for me 😂

[@agingstrongwithrickandron1321]

This movie addresses the reason why Bruce Banner was unique. Anyone else would have died with that huge dose of gamma rays. It all started with his modified genetics, then his repressed memories, He was one of a kind.

[@DGhost-ki6fd]

"TAKE IT! TAKE IT ALL!" Dumbledore said calmly.

[@TheRevenantEdits]

The Hulk 2003 & The Incredible Hulk deserve some VERY MUCH needed flowers of recognition

[@Zarixxtheone]

I’m glad people are giving this film the credit that it’s due 👍

[@mytruthismoreuseful]

20 years later! It’s mad 😂

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@@mytruthismoreusefulikr i never hated this movie. Used to watch it over and over again on DVD. Gonna add the Blu ray to my collection.

[@baumber1919]

Probably cause the 2008 Hulk movie overshadowed it but I grew up with the 2003 version and to me I always appreciated for what message it tried to convey

[@LRK-GT]

Ang Lee doing Hulk's mocap majorly 'upgraded' my feelings on 2003's The Hulk. Dude had a vision, and was dedicated to it, props. NtM The ending, is about the absolute best outcome for those w/ trauma. Mastering it, and using it as a utility to do good.

[@MR_Edits03]

This is probably the most hyped I’ve been for a video/analysis on the platform in a while. Very curious and excited!!

[@jackko21]

I highly recommend the Peter David novelization it expand of the plot even more

[@gorilaz0n]

The movie is an art film, what Lee is great at. Perhaps the reason why it stays being low rated after all these years isn’t that it wasn’t deep, but because it wasn’t deep enough for film nuts, not well-scripted enough to shed the mass studio-produced archetypes yet not entertaining enough for comic book fans. It was a beautiful movie without a doubt. It hurts me that Ang Lee couldn’t take it beyond only that

[@NomadFlow]

You are completely wrong. You have this idea that if a lot of people say something then it must be true. The reason the movie is still overlooked is because the MCU came in and built an entire fandom based on making jokefests. The MCU goes against its own comic book source which took itself far more seriously and was way more dramatic. The films put out over at the MCU turns almost all the characters into wannabe stand-up comedians constantly telling each other snarky jokes and taking almost nothing seriously. It's an insult not just to the original Marvel comic book source material but also to the entire superhero genre because no one can be accurate to the source. Ang Lee's Hulk is a great movie through and through. It will one day be acknowledged in the mainstream when we are out of his hipster jokefest era that the MCU has disgustingly created and a new generation comes in wanting higher quality storytelling that also takes itself seriously like the original comic books do.

[@ONIMOT100]

@@NomadFlow Sorry dude, but you are wrong and OP is correct

[@АртурАртуров-ф4ю]

​@@ONIMOT100 I'd say the truth is somewhere in-between.

[@SiFiGamer2016]

"Harder, daddy!" This caught me off guard. 🤣

[@garrington-sinclaircooper1073]

Shout out Team Four Star 🎉

[@SiFiGamer2016]

@@garrington-sinclaircooper1073 TFS did great on that part. 🤣

[@nicksorenson940]

Meanwhile Hulk in the MCU is still at the point of posing for smartphones and doing dabs, and fans are now looking back on Ang Lee's Hulk thinking "Perhaps we judged you a little too harshly at the time".

[@jordanthomas3279]

I see HULK (2003) appreciation, I like, it's really that simple

[@jordanthomas3279]

also still can't wrap my head around Ang Lee's next film being Brokeback Mountain after this

[@Yurikon3]

@@jordanthomas3279 Classic old-school wuxia film playing its tropes in its earnest, Super Hero flick before their boom and gay cowboys. Ang Lee is basically super ball director in human form.

[@retroboomer3197]

I've loved this movie since it was released and I was so bummed that it wasn't received well by the general public. Over the years I've had to listen to people constantly shitaking it. It's nice to see someone that appreciates it. And your editing in this is hilarious! That Seinfeld reference was genius.

[@thoarnejones6805]

I was so hurt when my classmates called it boring. It so captivated me as a child. Tho sadly I learned from Bruce to repress my feelings. 😅

[@retroboomer3197]

@@thoarnejones6805 what are you on about?

[@snakefang1123]

I think David was so obsessed with finding a cure for Bruce, not because Bruce was a threat then, but because something unknown could have triggered his metamorphosis into Hulk. David knew something could go wrong so he tried to make it so that nothing could ever go wrong, inadvertently creating the monster he sought out to prevent.

[@mytruthismoreuseful]

This movie released wen I was 3 years old I use to watch this movie every single day for atleast 2 years

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I used to watch it on DVD every day when i was a kid

[@motivatedstorm3816]

Reason David Banner got absorbing powers could have something to do with the deeper story David absorbs everything around him to use them and doesn't see them as anything else(this is more true for the old him)

[@kevincharbonneau5953]

This has always been my favourite take on the hulk. Ang Lee got it right.

[@karenbaldwin2867]

On the transformation bit, all of the gamma freaks came out with drastically different powers and abilities even when they were created in similar circumstances. Gamma is itself incredibly unstable and it shows in its subjects that survive. Look at (flux)an excellent soldier chosen by Ross to become a hulk rip off and he came out, weak, incredibly stupid, almost no healing, and rapid aging.

[@thecowboy9698]

One thing this movie, nor the other movies never explained, was how Hulk kept his pants on. As far as David not having any empathy, I'm not completely sure about that, and here are a few examples: #1: After seeing Hulk for the first time, and Hulk escapes through the roof, David is seen on the floor covered in rubble and sobbing: "My Bruce," as in that one brief moment he actually feels grief for his son, but also guilt knowing his experimenting on himself did to his son. #2: He tells Betty: "As I watched his tiny life unfold, I began to imagine the horror of it, and my curiosity was replaced with compassion," and when David bursts through that bedroom door screaming, you can clearly see extreme grief and pain both on his face and in his scream, that what he is about to do is heartwrenching for him, but feels he has no choice given his chance to cure bruce is gone, and as he told Betty: "I knew I was fulfilling a father's mercy." #3: When Bruce tells David of his dream of her and even her scent, David has both a look of shame, saddnes, and regret on his face, and also in his tone of voice. I think David at one time may have been a good man, and a loving husband and father, but he was mentally unstable, and being consumed by obsession he became something ugly, a "monster" as a result.

[@ultimamage3]

Edward Norton's Bruce has a scene in where he's buying pants and asks for a bigger and stretchier kind. So at least that one is pre-wearing big pants. 2. He was literally going to become a family annihilator instead of actually treating his son with any level of empathy or respect or giving him a chance at life. That's not empathy. He even says at the end that he doesn't respect Bruce the human but treats the Hulk as his real son. He's no different than a malignant narcissist who only involves themselves in their child's life after the child finally becomes "successful".

[@thecowboy9698]

​​​@@ultimamage3 - Since you brought up Edward Norton's Hulk, in hindsight, I wish that film had contained both the characters of David and Bruce Banner, but had them be brothers in that film, and Bruce seeks David out instead of that other guy for a chance at a cure, because from what I understand, The Incredible Hulk is not supposed to be a direct sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk. What do you think of that idea, just wondering?

[@ultimamage3]

@@thecowboy9698 I quite enjoyed Samuel Sterns being the guy that Bruce goes to for the cure given who he is in the comics and videogames, but the tease near the end of the film where his head is about to transform ultimately led nowhere. He would've become The Leader in the sequel to that movie. I don't have a firm opinion on whether changing Samuel to be David Banner would work or not, but at the very least making the brother David would allow the opportunity to correct the father's name to Brian Banner. I agree The Incredible Hulk isn't supposed to be a direct sequel to Ang Lee's Hulk, but it does contain references, since the original script was conceived as a sequel until Marvel changed it up to be a soft reboot with room to backtrack if the MCU fizzled out and the movies around it all flopped. 2008 streamlines the origin, but it picks up on Norton's Bruce in South America where Bana's Bruce ended. Explicit details of 2008 Hulk didn't contradict 2003 Hulk: Talbot died in 2003 and didn't make a single appearance in 2008, only showing up afterward in Agents of Shield (post-2012). Not to mention, Ross's quote in 2008 is vague but the casualties he attributes to Hulk can be reasonably connected to the deaths that happen in 2003. _"He is also implicated in the deaths of two scientists, a military officer, an Idaho state trooper, and possibly two Canadian hunters."_ Two scientists: Glenn Talbot and David Banner. Military officer: the fighter pilot that went into space. The Idaho state trooper and "possibly" two Canadian hunters is where we can say Ross is making shit up.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

That doesn’t answer why he kept his pants on?

[@ultimamage3]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios The movie studios wanted to avoid Hulk hanging dong. There that's it. But 2008 Hulk has Bruce buying big-ass pants so that he doesn't rip out of them when he transforms in the first place. His shirt and shoes are whatever, but he doesn't want to hang dong.

[@jacobwelling7813]

I absolutely adore the love being shown for Ang Lee's Hulk recently. I think many of our generation grew up with this Hulk, this movie made The Hulk my favorite super hero.

[@GrayPenumbra]

Finally!! Someone acknowledges this movie... we really had to hit rock bottom for people to see that this was the best Hulk movie to date, it really has no competition, it is simply the best

[@GrayPenumbra]

The point no Hulk movie nowadays gets is Banner never needed Hulk to be a hero... he already was a hero when he saved Rick Jones in a selfless act, no Hulk movie portrayed that except this one, I think Ang Lee was the only director who studied the Hulk character and the intricate themes behind its character, which is why it's the best Hulk movie.

[@SkeletonBuilder456]

​@@GrayPenumbrawow anime girl likes Hulk

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

I’m glad the Ang Lee Hulk movie’s getting some recognition & appreciation recently. It’s a better Hulk film than the Ed Norton one, as it’s closer to the books, and it made Hulk sympathetic like he’s supposed to be.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

Danny Elfmans Hulk music is as great as his work on Spider-Man and batman

[@imaginarycorgi7312]

14:25 As he says later his powers/molecules are unstable, causing a degeneration of sorts resulting in the ability to absorb matter separate from himself. 27:30 David’s ability is dramatically different from Bruce’s because Bruce didn’t just inherit it, it mutated and changed, affecting Bruce’s very being from birth. When David’s plans for a cure failed, he couldn’t risk (in his own mind) that mutation progressing and creating a monster (that he could control). 28:15 He is attempting to study how Bruce’s mutation has progressed after 30 years. When he sees what the gamma and nanobots did, he tests it on his dogs, and then he tests it on himself (afterall he’s had 30 years too). 29:32 David is a scientist, he is experimenting. Testing Bruce to see if his transformation is a one time occurrence, to see if it may require gamma or emotion. Hope this helps.

[@jackko21]

In the novelization by Peter David David Banner did kill the janitor benny he knocks on his and then tells his dogs to attack benny and takes his house

[@surlyslur]

Insightful video with some good commentary. Nice job. One thing, though: @17:10 -- "The movie demonstrates the effects of adolescent experiences on a person's psyche and how that can follow him for the rest of his life". The flashbacks clearly show Betty and Bruce as toddlers/preschoolers, not adolescents. They are several years from being adolescents. But trauma inflicted on children in the toddler/preschool age-range certainly does yield life-long negative effects on a human's psyche. That's all too tragically true, as some of us know from personal experience.

[@ThePeterEffect]

This is one of the best video essays I’ve seen. Great job on this! I’m sure it was a TON of work.

[@OptimusPrime298]

Years Later this film has becoming a cult classic

[@maxfordgaming9278]

I wouldn't be a hulk fan if it wasn't for this movie, all my life I never understood why this film got so much hate. I related to bruce/hulk so much, I know what it feels like to have anxiety, not knowing how I'm feeling than getting frustrated that I don't know what I'm feeling, when all my emotions come crashing. This film is incredible, what the mcu has done to the hulk is absolutely disgraceful. This movie is the best live action hulk and i will continue to sing this movies praises till day I die.

[@maldon3659]

That pose Talbot does when he dies is hilarious

[@EternalRoman]

Finally! someone that gets it and speaks on it on more details. I first saw THE HULK when it came out, and on that night's premiere I saw it twice and I loved it. Yeah, I heard the complaints of others on the movie as we walked out, but even then I even argued that the movie was close to the source material as opposed to the 70s TV series whom people were trying to compare it to. It was surprising that many whom actually claimed to read the comics said that the movie was not like in the comics as on the origins, literally claiming that the TV show was the "comic book accurate" story. That was so annoying to hear. The movie setting was different, but it was like in the comics indeed as Bruce helped someone else from the Gamma exposure and even in the comics it was revealed that Bruce's survival to the Gamma explosion was because Bruce had a Genetic defect/Mutation. Also the comics HAD also shown that the Hulk was a persona based on Bruce's trauma with his abusive father when he was a kid. This is my favorite Hulk movie, and Marvel's Hulk started well in the Avengers (I don't like Norton's version cause he wanted it to follow the 70s TV show) but sadly now Hulk in MCU has not given the respect it deserves as a psychological look at the character's of Bruce and Hulk respectively. Then again, what has Disney NOT damaged so far?

[@b-k-i-t-w]

Well, you know, I'm not a native English speaker at all, but this video... this was the first videoesse that was longer than 10 minutes and I JUST ABSORB it. Thank you for all effort.

[@Mr.Valentyne]

Appreciate you mentioning my Hulk video! Long live Ang Lee’s Hulk!!!

[@pyr0.04]

I don't think i ever realized Bruce's trauma that much until now.

[@Gittykitty]

Love this version and 08 version.

[@moy9948]

As someone born in 1999, the Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 1 and Ang Lee's HULK are the two biggest core memories of my childhood. I still love the cinematography of this move, from the distinct transitions to the comic panel-like shots, the fight with the three dogs in the forest with the giant trees, Hulk getting his junk bitten by one of them and later his shoulder getting split open, the running sequence of him after scaping the facility still being one of my favorites movie scenes and when the fighter jet takes to him to low orbit just for Hulk to crash into the water and dig his way under the street. Not to mention Jennifer Connelly being the reason I'm attracted to women with thick/dark eyebrows.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

I love Ang Lee's Hulk movie

[@LostSoulSilver]

37:37 Hulk: I am a Shadow. The true self Bruce: You're not me!!! 39:51 Bruce: I am you, and you are I...

[@matthewbraith0411]

No don't say it.

[@JJMcSkoozie222]

This is one of my earliest memories to see this in theaters. Glad this movie is finally getting the love it deserves. One of my favorite super hero flics

[@androsthewarriorhighalpha]

This is the Hulk I grew up with and watched til this day.. I mean this movie will always be a special place in my heart 💚

[@-tyr-7647]

What I love about this movie is that it captures what the Hulk is and has always been: a monster born from trauma and given form by Gamma.

[@amazingfilmuniverse105]

HULK should’ve fully been a character study, if they didn’t market it as a action packed film that was made to sell toys and took out the useless villain, the film would’ve been probably more well received.

[@kevincharbonneau5953]

Absolutely wonderful breakdown of this film

[@pedroferrr1412]

The best Hulk movie, with the best actor doing it!

[@CadmeanLotus]

Hulk [2003] is still the best live-action adaptation of the character I've seen.

[@mcnierstenen9017]

Another absolute banger, your videos are genuinely some of the best on the platform. Regardless of what you cover, you're always fair, and you're always able to look at things critically. 9/10 video

[@m0istur]

I swear Tolbit dying and the transition to General Ross was just out of no where and was funny af. It still is my favorite out of the panel edits

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

I love the directors commentary of hulk

[@clarkvaughan]

This video is, by far, the most thorough, extensive, watchable illumination of a film that I've ever witnessed. It's like seeing the movie again with the screenwriter and the director in the room with you. Absolutely brilliant work. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@Valtuem]

Thank you so much!

[@davidarredondo2017]

The theme deserves recognition too an amazing piece of music

[@ultimatefoe]

8:39 I love the SA2 dub clip of Eggman callin out his "dad".

[@kaybigg]

Top notch review.. Every new review about this movie keep getting better and better.. This is the best Hulk depiction we'll ever get on screen.. It's getting a huge following because people are now understanding the character and the theme of the movie.. I like how you made fun of it respectfully, because not everything worked in the movie and I understand when people have a problem with that.. Actually, the 'bad' parts of this movie is due to the studio, not the director; leaked footage of unfinished cgi scenes, advertising it as an action film, and failing to give Ang Lee the required budget to make the night scenes longer and better lit.. I love your review though, coz I can't get enough of Bana's Hulk

[@CelAbration]

Ang Lee did the body capture of Hulk? Dude, I loved the way he was portrayed here even if the edits were a bit intense to take in at first. Ngl, the premise hit harder than I thought and it became an oddly comfort movie

[@Thechristianmichaelbolton]

I’ve loved this 2003 hulk movie since I was a little kid, scared me shitless but at the same time, Hulk became my top 10 favs

[@Mat23]

Great breakdown - made me wanna rewatch this!

[@maldon3659]

rock music in the end credits was kind of a staple of Superhero movies in the 2000s particularly Spider-man

[@augusthasani6588]

15:28 I think its also a deep survival instinct, that trauma was the ultimate definition of fear to Bruce, and he would mirror that back in Hulk form sub-consciously to survive because that was the physiological imprint.

[@danofsteel785]

It's odd that Sam Elliot wasn't hired as a stand-in for the late William Hurt's portrayal of Thunderbolt Ross/Red Hulk for Captain America: Brave New World, considering he played him before in 2003.

[@Jus-Too-Smoove]

Fantastic break down bro

[@arempy5836]

14:20 I don't have an explanation as to why his powers are so different, but it seems they combined David with the Absorbing Man, a an enemy of both Hulk and Thor. Perhaps it's because of his egotism that they combined the absorbing man character with this version of David. He wants to surpass gods and he wants to take power from others. He wants to become the world, he wants the world to become him.

[@arcanewarrior863]

It's that he's a toxic father who merely wants to take everything and give nothing

[@chowrites6179]

It wasnt until this video thast I didn't realized how much I loved the multiple panels in the editing. Some of the editing choices are... odd, but the panels are a fantastic idea that I wish could've gotten more chances to be perfected in other films.

[@weluve3394]

This has to be the most underrated channel I've ever seen. The presentation, narration, and articulation was spectacular. #Herebefore10Msubs keep up the amazing work.

[@jeremyknight9980]

45:08 It's strange because even Keneth Johnson the creator of the 70s Hulk tv series didn't like this movie either, he isn't a fan of Comicss, found the Hulk ridiculous and isn't a fan of super hero fantasy, so he made his version about a man haunted over the fact he wasn't able to save his wife in a car accident.

[@joestarfloro3030]

This movie understands Bruce banner

[@leonfontius5300]

Valtuem, your review and breakdown was amazing. I always had problems with film, but there were some great moments. This really helped me understand why your channel deserves more subscribers.

[@DirtHutCaver]

@9:36 love the use of the cartoon theme, there. Super nostalgic.

[@MalkuthEmperor]

45:52 " Hulk was not the movie audiences were promised", but Hulk was the movie audiences diserved! Now having watched this rewied, i apreciate the film even more than i used to I was if a few time as a small kid because i loved the emergy of it, the fantastical visules, and the rare moments when Bruce transformed actually felt significant, rather than something normal that just happens all the time( as the trailers are promising) If it were what the trailers showed, it would just be another shamsh it up action movie, so while people did get tricked via the trailer( which i only now saw), we are ultimately better off for it, having seen this visual gem that takes us into another realm. I frequently find this " good vs bad CGI" argument strange, because whille cgi can cirtainly be misplaced in terms of how its made stylistically, due to lack of budget and available tech - this film in particularly for me wouldnt be better any other way, as the cgi just fits it estetically. What i dont like about the "bad cg" argument is that its oftain just a way to say " it doesnt look realistic" which, who said it has to? We are talking about a green beeing powered by gama radiation and human experiments! To me, what many would call bad cg, is just a matter of difference in taste. Not sure why we forget that film is art and that art is subjective, especially when the topic of cgi arrises, and always with this lazy argument that " come on, cant you see it"😂 as if their taste should be so obviously correct that it changes my reality Anyway, i say, free CGI style, just make visually interesting things with it, and itll be fine Free "bad" cgi and let it come back in style, in order to give film today, the surreal quality that makes a film a unique experience, rather than a realistic one Its like when abstract art is boiled down to " eeh, they cant paint realistically, thats why they doodle this stuff" Like what? 😂 Anyway, have a nice day

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

34:22 the US military has done alot of terrible things in iraq,vietnam, Philippines, korea, Afghanistan theyve commited alot of war crimes that they've covered up man

[@derka_james]

That's called war. It is nothing new.

[@DelNiceBeto]

I've always loved this movie and never understood the hate others had for it

[@treydawson9896]

This video made me rethink about the whole film in the most positive of fashions. I appreciate you making this for us to better understand Ang Lees vision!

[@DJIdroneabout]

Best incredible hulk movie ever

[@chronic_hatred2k22]

Talbot's death was hilarious to me, the fact that the explosive just ricochets off of Hulk with no effort lol. Kinda reminds me when LSSJ Broly stopped Piccolo by just standing up.

[@mightybluespider]

Glad you still make these

[@leriava]

I mentioned in the chat that I didn't really like this movie back then. Maybe it's time for a rewatch. Thanks for the video!

[@jonathanathor117]

36:09 A dream that no longer needs its dreamer. I see some parallels.

[@spacecowboy529]

i love this film so much. yeah it’s a little goofy but it did what it set out to do with the exploration of rage. you should take a look at the tie in game which is supposed to be a direct sequel to this

[@NomadFlow]

There's nothing really goofy about it especially when you compare it to the horrendous MCU movies that are nothing but minute by minute jokes where almost nothing is taken seriously. The MCU movies go against the tone of the original Marvel comic books which took themselves far more seriously.

[@rhatikeo]

the best hulk movie

[@NomadFlow]

Not just the best Hulk movie but one of the best adaptations of a superhero comic book of all time.

[@anthonyt1t5]

Hulk was badass in this. Unstoppable. Bruce felt like a real guy with trauma. Ang lee had a such a great direction with the character.

[@ironboylegend485]

Holy crap I just realized that Talbot appears on this hulk movie and in agents of shield show. They are portrayed by different actors but it's fascinating to me that they are the same characters in different projects

[@X2Magneto]

I'm really glad to see people coming around on this one. I think that it being a film made with enthusiasm and passion by dedicated artists elevate it above many MCU entries of today. Maybe it doesn't get everything that it wants, but the naked ambition is intoxicating.

[@NomadFlow]

Ang Lee's Hulk isn't above "many MCU entries." It is above ALL of the MCU movies. The MCU's are almost all horrible. The original Marvel comic books took themselves seriously but the MCU fills their movies with so many jokes it's near a damn parody of itself.

[@Yurikon3]

@@NomadFlow Weapon X by Barry Windsor Smith was seriously striking description of the pain Wolverine had to go through while getting his adamantium. It wasn't really "super hero story" but actual horror tale of man who cannot die from injuries but still live through the sufferings. There are a lot of serious issues you can tell through superpowered beings and they don't have to be that silly.