Humanity is the Worst Warhammer Race to Live As

[@pancreasnowork9939]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZDPcpVuop6Apqui source for all claims made historical and Warhammer related

[@maxydal3512]

Based

[@sirflapfla97]

good source

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

you didnt have to list that. It was clear by the every wors you said. I know this video is meant for comedic purposes ( great deadpan humour) but i feel bad for the people who take you at face value.

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

You forgot estalia

[@sirflapfla97]

@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Karl, your biased. Please stop talking and me and da boiz are going to go have fun.

[@powercorpse8386]

In 40k books the foreword literally says 'to live in these times is to live under an unimaginable brutal regime' yeah that sure sounds fun

[@pancreasnowork9939]

Every KZbin video I see on the subject just forgets that line

[@陳潔明-w6y]

Xeelee-verse humanity: That's cute...

[@Calgar_Gaming]

@Wojciech Pordzik it only applies to 99 % so it’s fine right

[@gringlebandersnatch]

@Wojciech Pordzik ah yes the very few human world's not incorporated during the great crusade.... totally disproves the totalitarian nature of the one million planet strong ( minimum) imperium....stop pulling random statements out your ass. 😂 The imperium is know about by every planet in it, I mean it's pretty hard to miss the giant shrine to the emperor in ever major place with people.

[@hulkbustermark5830]

@@Calgar_Gaming what about civilised world like in the Infinite and the divide and pleasure world. Not to mention we mostly hear of forge world and hive worlds because (A) it makes gw lots of money ( which is why we mostly get space marines stories and Products) (B) because thier boring and most of the fan base prefer hive worlds like Necromunda and Armageddon.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

I'd agree with you on all these points, but you forgot an important one, if your an elf you have to look in the mirror and see an elf every day of your life

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

fine with that - look in the mirror in see humans and I am and disgusted

[@DaBlaccGhost]

@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 it's ethically correct to be racist against all elves except the Nereverine, hell theres even timeliness he reincarnated as any other race but elf.

[@aaronlaughter6471]

@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 There is only one solution, and you wont like it.

[@handleonafridge6828]

@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 grammar just died as a concept

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

@@handleonafridge6828 ahh yes that grammar nazi puriest - please gas me, torture me, burn my children for not being as holy and superior as you are thy lord and grammar master!!!

[@jtr7377]

The Orks are also always winning, even some of the Eldar acknowledge this and they are very narcissistic. By the way, when I say "winning", I mean winning at life. For an Ork, fighting is living, and they are constantly fighting, and they love to fight, and they usually die fighting. Orks just thrive in Warhammer.

[@kennyleung9909]

"Orks ain't neva beaten. If we'z win, we'z win If we'z lose, we'z die fightin. If we'z run away we'z gets ta fight again. See?"

[@Phil9874]

Orks are just livin their best lives.

[@sitchreapotere1073]

Not to mention that Orks likely just reincarnate in a big cycle of fun because A. death never really seems to phase them and B. There's no such thing as Chaos Orks, at least not on the regular. Warhammer was made for Orks and everyone else are just toys in the sandbox.

[@heartlessnobody1143]

"in da futurr, wez got krumpin, and when we keep krumpin we keep happi"

[@Phil9874]

@viktor colbert If we's winning we win if we losin we wins if we retreatin we winnin cause we get to do more fightin. Everyday fighting wid da boyz is a good day.

[@deficitstifflegzercherdeadlift]

The God-Emperor: “I must secure the future of mankind.” Humanity: “so it will be a good future?” The God-Emperor: “…”

[@sovietunion7643]

with all the shit going around in the 40k universe, honestly any future that isn't enslaved by the necrons or in the stomach by the tyranids is a good future. by any means necessary

[@0-Templar-0]

It will be a paradise. After all Xenos are dead, and chaos is no more.

[@josepigroyper370]

The emperor: I remember people being pretty happy in ancient Rome. :-)

[@Dogman262]

I cant imagine its any worse than getting turned into popcorn shrimp for a tryanid hive fleet or some freak drukharis "special time" furniture

[@RobotWizard4209]

Its definitely a future

[@quinnbuffet3825]

T'au has humans in it, and they apparently live pretty decent lives. Sure, they disappear people on a regular basis and that's NOT because the Grimdank quota needs to be fulfilled and I *promise* GW isn't holding a gun to my head as I say that, but it's still not terrible.

[@patriotth1453]

Farsight human is even though smaller minority but even better alternate to T'au, since Farsight established their place away from the Ethereal's rule.

[@anthonyallmond3682]

God I hate gw grimdark quotas remember when Bretonnia was just an average feudal civilization and even peasants could be knights or when the ethereals weren’t the party from 1984

[@then00brathalos]

The tau always get shat on, because they are the only race in 40k to strive for peace, without exterminating the others. Kinda sad for them tbh

[@floricel_112]

@@anthonyallmond3682 I remember when the tau where still objectively the good guys and the ethereals didn't mind control and subjugate their populace

[@anthonyallmond3682]

@@floricel_112 what was it like ancient one I’m a baby since I‘ve only been into Warhammer for 7 months

[@heightnoworkchris8093]

" I was born into this world, just like you. A world of unceasing war and endless terrors. But with a nation of men at its heart, a bastion of hope and courage: the Empire. Led by the craven, torn apart by the greedy, weakened and exposed, forever on the defence."-Karl Franz Another solid video king

[@manuvirajkhare]

"Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!" ~ Emperor Magnus the Pious.

[@navilluscire2567]

Which sounds like THE MOST pretentious piece of crap I've ever read, blatant Empire circle jerking Karl's ""speech"". (GW couldn't have been ANY more subtle with the favoritism)

[@heightnoworkchris8093]

@@navilluscire2567 👌

[@sneedclavehere8918]

@@navilluscire2567 The average Bretonian fan

[@Whatsuppbuddies]

@@navilluscire2567 rare moment of speech from frog eater

[@HugeAckMan420]

imagine a space marine legion that's genetic flaw was that their pancreas didn't work and they had to roll a d6 each turn to check if they could perform actions or had to spend a turn eating dextroenergy tabs

[@aldgate]

what.

[@HugeAckMan420]

@@aldgate what?

[@thepaulzdontforget]

I like this joke

[@whythelongface64]

There will be a forgeworld dedicated to making those tabs too

[@HugeAckMan420]

@@whythelongface64 Flavour: mechanicus standard grape

[@TheDukeofOok]

You know, average lifespan of a clan rat is 5 years. They just dont live long enough to understand that there life is shit.

[@maximumeffort7096]

To be fair, the average lifespan of a Grey Seer is 20, and in Warhammer lore wizards tend to have something in the ball park of several times the lifespan of non-magicians, for all species. So 5 years is pretty normal for Skaven, especially cause they reach adulthood in something like a month.

[@InquisitorThomas]

@@maximumeffort7096 Also if you’re important enough you get the “We can’t have named characters die of old age” potion.

[@iamsinistar8971]

And sometimes they don't even live up to 1 year cause the higher ups decided to use them as either cannon fodder or a test dummy for whatever nightmare experiment they decided to cook up today.

[@artelislt]

*their

[@monseurwanksalotte3477]

*their

[@enoughrope1638]

I always like the description "Star Wars fans want to be Jedi. Star Trek fans want to be captains. Warhammer 40k fans want to not be in the warhammer universe."

[@olafjansowidz]

This guy talks about wh not wh40k you NPC

[@enoughrope1638]

@@olafjansowidz dug up a year old comment and you are wrong. "Have you ever thought about how it sucks being human in one of the warhammer settings" *warhammer 40k image in the background* seriously... if you are going to randomly lash out at strangers online over mundane comments at least watch the content.

[@olafjansowidz]

@@enoughrope1638 lmao, got some fish on such weak bait 🎣

[@kyuumann500]

I'd be okay being an craftworld eldar. It's a good 2000 years before I'm tortured forever

[@sermer6659]

@@olafjansowidz It's the stupidiest bait I've ever seen in my entire life. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@jakefrost7404]

*_"I saw the way you lived on that world. I have seen the way Imperial citizens live on a hundred worlds. If you truly believe that this a sane galaxy, and that we are the aberrations, then I pity you. But then, you have not seen all the alternatives yet; when you do, your mind may change."_* _~ Vorx, Chaos Lord of the Lords of Silence, conversing with Captain Dantine, a captured Imperial Guard_

[@abdullahansari437]

I wonder how pleasant he want life to be for people on his worlds dedicated to the chaos gods

[@KingBuilder525]

Takes a chaos lord at his word That’s all I have to say. No explanation needed

[@philipkelly7369]

Always remember in any discussion of the warhammer setting that the lore is paradoxical, contradictory, and nonsensical, and that it is this way by design.

[@bencox3641]

If "by design" you mean "the writers can't agree on anything and have given up trying to keep anything constant" than yes.

[@philipkelly7369]

@@bencox3641 Yes, "by design" in this case does mean, in part: "GW is lazy and making a setting consistent is work"

[@vurrunna]

Fans: "Hey GW, why do your books keep contradicting each other and not make any sense?" GW, sweating profusely: "Uh... Unreliable narrators?" Fans: "... Ingenius."

[@DarkCatfish]

at one point in the distant past I would agree that it was by design, back when geedubs actively encouraged the hobbyists to be creative, weaving their own narratives and building campaigns within the grimdark sandbox. Now I'd argue they are just short on creative juice and would rather you just take out a mortgage so you can consume mindlessly.

[@sergiodiaz2725]

@@bencox3641 “by design” means dealing with a galaxy wide story with trillions of individuals and that’s just humans. There are contradictions in historical accounts in real life, if you extrapolate that to a galaxy influenced by 4 satans then it’s pretty damn incredible anyone understands anything at all. Hell, chronostrife is already a mind fuck by itself.

[@bushwookie4080]

Humanity in 40k is FAR worse than fantasy but you right

[@filleis6374]

Yeah one is medieval europe with monsters and daemons a la witcher while the empire of mankind is ultra fascism, but even worse somehow + daemons + space bugs + all the other horrors of the 41st millennium which, ya know is quite bad to put it mildly.

[@filleis6374]

@Wojciech Pordzik that is very much not the case. Best case scenario is a pleasure world with low imperium control and semi modern day technology which is effectively like living in a modern day dictatorship. Otherwise you live in immense slums, death worlds, feudalism or worse You also always run the risk of a xenos or chaos invasion which isnt ideal. TBH optimal situation as a human in 40k is joining the farsight clans

[@christiandauz3742]

Maybe during the Great Crusade. Horus Heresy undid that. Great Rift turns everyone into cavemen

[@thinkwithurdipstick]

@@filleis6374 you filthy space commie race traitor, the Emperor never forgets.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

@Wojciech Pordzik many? About 3/5 of the imperium at this point did saw and fell to either xenos or chaos. And filies is right, most imperium planets have people living in terrible conditions, even in the realm of ultramar. Pleasure worlds are few and far in between and stable worlds are even rarer, not even primarch capitals are all stable, much like Jagatai'khans own world or Angrons.

[@bdablader95]

One of my favorite examples of a 40k agri world is in the Lords of Silence book. There's 3/4 of a chapter dedicated to an agri world that the characters actively say "is advertised as a paradise" throughout the Imperium, but once you land, you never leave. Its nothing but wheat crops covering the entire planet, grey sky, barely fertile ground, all crops and fields are 'designed' by the Mechanicus to fit a template and copied over hundreds of worlds, people work 16+ hour shifts in the fields, nobody can leave- and nobody will come to your rescue if the small guard regiment on the planet can't save you.

[@ahn0x]

tbf, the LoS Plague Marines themselves comment that there should have been a rescue/response from the White Consuls /Navy, were it not for the fact that this takes place right after the Great Rift is opened and the entire Imperium is reeling from not having the Astronomicon to guide them

[@dragonace119]

Also the fact that Agri-worlds are just absolutely hellish for the sole fact of the sheer amount of pesticides, fertilizers and other such chemicals used. If you think the runoff of farms irl is bad then you have another thing coming when it coems to agri-worlds.

[@midgetydeath]

Which is another sign of bad writing. Aside from the fact that the fields wouldn't take anywhere near so much time because no duh. Agri Worlds are vitally important. The Imperium wouldn't ignore you and let you die. They'd throw pretty much _everything_ into saving the planet and, ironically, the experienced labor force (as a secondary priority, but even that is still a big deal) necessary for keeping said planet valuable. Agri Worlds feed Hive Worlds, Hive Worlds are where the great bulk of the Imperium's manpower comes from. So, yeah, the Imperium would go apeshit about one being invaded. They never do in the lore, but like I said, that's just extremely bad writing. So bad it should not be taken seriously because if it is, the Imperium would not exist. Everyone would be dead.

[@jazon80r13]

If you're a human in warhammer 40k, your best chances of having a happy life are either being a techpriest, or getting autobalenced to red team

[@Prince_of_Despair]

I'm from the future. I'd argue being a tech-priest would arguably be one of the worst

[@aceofhearts573]

I wish in 40K other human civilizations that are not imperial got fleshed out. Talking about Olamic Quietude, Interex, Adrantis 5 and many others. A lot of these actually have more advanced tech than the Eimpire in 40K but they are smaller sometimes just one planet and they get destroyed.

[@midgetydeath]

The Interrex IIRC had many planets. However, by that point the Imperium had actually recovered so much technologically that, though still inferior, Horus and his force were able to come back later (as Chaos) and destroy the Interrex on their own through a mix of numerical superiority and the fact that good enough is good enough even if it is weaker.

[@chase8649]

I'd rather be a big ogre carefully observing a severed human foot before gobbling it down

[@fcomolineiro7596]

I love how the emperor is a living contradiction, he loves humanity, but makes the worse planets to live in, he hates chaos but makes the perfect conditions to get corrupted... This guy is a weirdo

[@brandonlee934]

he's not really alive to rule, he keeps the astronomica up and that's kind of it

[@fcomolineiro7596]

@@brandonlee934 this happens frequently when he was still alive

[@FarremShamist]

@@fcomolineiro7596 Yeah... He wasn't exactly a good person. People forget that.

[@SamueL-td7fb]

He truly is the biggest redditor ever

[@pancytryna9378]

Give him some credit, he was waging a galactic scale war, this does tend to make the living conditions worse No way to tell how would he do in peace

[@АрвигБадмаев-и1э]

I remember some absolutely crazy Cities of Sigmar. There're awful ones like Vindicarum, which is teaming with zealotry, paranoia and constantly self-torturing flaggelants. There's Hammerhal Ghyra which is regularly swarmed with nurgle horseflies and mosquitos - there's an entire regiment of steamgun exterminators in heavy armour for such shit. But most interesting case for me is Settler's Gain - a city in in Hysh, realm of light, that is heavily influenced by Lumineth society and values. At first glance this is paradise, where every manual labour is done by solar-powered automata. Every human there is a student in phylosophy, art, science or magic in the hands of aelf professors. Only this is literally student-style life for an entire life - people here are sleep-deprived, drugged (there's a special narcotic wich is brewed by Hyshian students to keep themself constantly awake), condemned to ruthless stresses and worst of all - at the end of their lifes most of the people realize they will never gain knowledge or skill of their aelf professors - humans just don't live long enough for that. This just sound like Hell to me. This causes tensions and upriisings, but loudest of the bunch will be taken in magical crystall chambers for "enlightenment" that sounds and function exactly like magical brainwashing.

[@brianwalsh1339]

Elves ruin everything once again

[@irontemplar6222]

It also sounds incredibly stupid to me. Because the reality of life is this. It might take you 80 years to experice something, but someone can learn about all you have ever experienced in a matters of days, weeks or months at the worst. This is actually something that was brought up by a professor who read both nichize and Caral Juen. It took both of those men their entire lives to wright their philosophy, and he in just a few months was able to inherit and understand the sum total of their experience in a matter of a few months. Honestly a more accurate depiction of elves would have them being distressed by how much these young humans can grow and understand. Becoming equal to them and even surpassing them in a fraction of their lifespan.

[@Dreadnautilus]

The real fucked up thing about being a human in Age of Sigmar is that the majority of humanity is actually Chaos-aligned in this setting and you'll probably be a barbarian in the middle of a corrupted wasteland who has to kill to survive.

[@EgoEroTergum]

This is why there are thing like the Cypher Lords in Hysh; when learning everything is impossible, then insanity is the best option.

[@Alhu15]

@@Dreadnautilus Course, sometimes you get a claw hand or a weird tentacle to help you kill better. Sure, you can no longer safely scratch your head or use doorknobs, but you gotta take the good with the bad when you live in a literal frozen hellscape, yeah?

[@anoobyproaz5616]

"the scaven certainly aren't living better than humans, but it also definitely doesn't bother them as much as an equivalent living situation with a human" "your human rights are still being viciously violated and not knowing about that fact doesn't make it better"

[@Connor.SG-1Ring]

Regardless of how regular humans live or die in 40K, their souls automatically goes straight to the Warp to get tortured, violated, devoured _(typically not in that order)._

[@Mongoosesummoner]

Unless you put your faith in the Emperor.

[@starhammer5247]

@@Mongoosesummoner, It's Still not a guarantee.

[@Mongoosesummoner]

@@starhammer5247 It's as close as you're gonna get in THIS setting.

[@starhammer5247]

@@Mongoosesummoner That's fair.

[@foreignfat6009]

But arent human souls different from eldar? Human souls just shater and you, as a person dont exist anymore. Unlike eldar. If that isnt the case, that would be humans could be ressurected the same way as eldar can.

[@xyro3633]

Can't wait for the *"Most medium Warhammer Race to Live as"* video

[@pancreasnowork9939]

It’s gonna be a 50 minute long video of me reading a Wikipedia article on the T’au Empire

[@Cheesemonkey2889]

@@pancreasnowork9939 Oh god, archwarhammer flashbacks

[@ToaArcan]

@@Cheesemonkey2889 We don't say his name here.

[@TT-pl5iw]

@@ToaArcan Why is that? From what I've seen in discussions on here he seems to be a fairly controversial figure.

[@ToaArcan]

@@TT-pl5iw Dude's functionally a neo-Nazi, and he became so notorious that GW actually sent him a Cease and Desist to get him to stop using their brand in his username, during one of their semi-regular attempts to purge the Toothbrush Moustache Enthusiast Club from their customer base.

[@TheKolboShow]

"as for the Dark Elves well yeah they dont have the best living conditions for a lot of them but the Druchii dont give a shit about comfort" Funnily enough, last July I actually wrote this about Dark Elf living conditions : > be Dark Elf > once every year, crazy murdercultists rampage around your city and kill people indiscriminately. only reason you've survived so far is because every residential house is already a small barricaded fortress > it's so fucking cold outside > you are constantly surrounded by sadistic asshole sociopaths and the paranoia is driving you insane > everyone around you wears human skin on their robes. the stench is unbearable but you can't complain about it because you'll be accused of being weak > even though you've lived in a single settlement for the entire duration of your life, you keep getting lost on the way to the local bakery because the layout of the city is literally designed to be stupidly confusing, bewildering and absurdly difficult to navigate > it's so fucking cold outside > kept awake every night by your asshole next-door-neighbours furiously covering each other's houses with crossbow bolts and shouting insults at one another. their tiny little urban war has lasted for a decade and they somehow haven't been able to kill each other yet, leaving you sleep deprived for countless nights > it's so fucking cold outside > constant looming threat of either being drafted into the garrison of Ghrond to repel yet another fuckass chaos invasion and dying to a filthy northern marauder, or being drafted into Malekith's army to attempt another failed invasion of the ancient homeland and dying to a High Elf spearman > it's so fucking cold outside > probably can't even defect to Ulthuan because they'll just execute you for being a suspected Druchii spy > you could try your luck in Sartosa but the last time Dark Elf corsairs visited the island it ended with them getting enslaved by human pirates > and worst of all, you are c*nadian i.imgur.com/bFMgieV.jpeg

[@TheKolboShow]

Jokes aside, the Malus Darkblade novels paint a very interesting picture of Dark Elf living conditions. For starters, there is a lot of class stratification in their society, with lowborn Druchii at the bottom and the highborn at the top, to the point where they even have criminal gangs and bandits. In "Lord of Ruin", the ruler of Clar Karond was too pre-occupied with day drinking to bother with the political plots and schemes of his colleagues, and Malus's brother Isilvar was both spoiled and indolent, choosing to spend his time enjoying the luxuries of nobility rather than going on raids and such.

[@pancreasnowork9939]

You unironically get to call yourself something like Malus Darkblade and not be rightfully judged by everyone around you though so clearly these cons can’t be that bad. But yeah Dark Elves have a shit life. Hard to feel pity for the people who’s major contributions to the world are making it infinitely worse though. I mean they created Nagash essentially, that alone is abominable.

[@kylarstern17]

@@pancreasnowork9939 Darkblade is actually an insult because Malus's father absolutely hated him. The reason Darkblade is insulting is because Druchii swords aren't actually black they just paint them so only a bad blade could be dark from the get-go.

[@noranomics]

I will say that Cammorragh does sound like Toronto

[@nickname8619]

Dark elves also revel in pleasure and constantly get back their numbers through constant reproduction. They have extremes on both ends, I'd argue that dark elf life offers the biggest ecstacy and also the biggest suffering.

[@bobdole8830]

Salt wasn't extremely valuable, it was a common means of food preservation throughout most of medieval Europe. It wasn't as dirt cheap as today but it wasn't uncommon either. Almost anyone could afford salt.

[@user-zz3sn8ky7z]

It was however valuable enough for preserving food that an average person couldn't really afford to waste it on such trivial matters as "making food taste good", so the point in the video about medieval food tasting bad is still relevant (especially when you consider the lack of every other spice)

[@bobdole8830]

@@user-zz3sn8ky7z True that they didn't have access to most valuable spices, they did however use plenty of locally grown or regionally available herbs to make up for it. Even peasants who lived near the coastline could easily make their own salt, it only gained in value the further you were from the sea. In this case yes, the peasants probably wouldn't waste salt as a spice for everyday food. But generally speaking Medieval cousine wasn't just eating unsalted shlock, and permanently feeling hungry, not even for peasants. Of course during winter, war or bad harvests it could be the case that peasants would only eat tasteless gruel to survive, if anything. But during normal times peasants had access to (by today standards) pretty decent bread, fish, vegetables, herbs, sometimes dairy products and eggs etc. I mean they were working hard manual labour 6 days a week, you NEED to eat halfway decent simply to stay alive. A lot of the things people think about medieval cousine are exaggerations and often simply false.

[@moonflowerviewing91]

@@user-zz3sn8ky7z they use vinagar to make their foods taste better

[@vylbird8014]

More valuable towards the north - you need heat to extract it from seawater. This is why Scandinavia perfected the process of drying fish into a long-lasting tasty chewable snack. They had salt, it just had to be imported or made at greater expense by boiling.

[@bavarianpotato]

Salt was generally plentiful. So plentiful in fact, that throughout history, food being overly salty was a regular issue documented in many cookbooks. During harsher times, especially winters, a lot of the food available would've been salted for storing, especially meat and fish, which gave a lot of foods a very salty taste. But beyond that, food was good. Your palettes adapt to what you're used to; to us, some of the dishes might seem bland, but that's because we're used to the shit we eat nowadays. In reality, you can make very very tasty meals without any access to exotic herbs & spices. Onions, garlic, mushrooms, meat every now and then, maybe some freshly caught fish (much better quality than most of what we get today), carrots, celery, cheese (which was a big part of the european diet)- don't tell me those don't taste good. Probably not spicy (although wild garlic actually can be quite spicy). There's also honey and fruits and beer and wine [...]. Medieval people generally ate quite well, albeit with a bit less than ideal protein intake.

[@343guiltyspification]

If you had to choose, the place you would want to live in in WH40K (as a human) is Ultramar: In the lore it is always described as the most prosperous and peaceful part of the Imperium. Since it is actively governed and managed by the Ultramarines it is considerably less corrupt, planets are not destroyed by endless pollution, standards of living are decent compared to the rest of the Imperium and you enjoy the protection of the Ultramarines. PD: Also @PancreasNoWork, the 40K Imperium now has a sort-of-Karl Franz equivalent in the form of Guilliman.

[@huydang5955]

What about with the Salamanders?

[@Inactive_Account29283]

@@huydang5955they live in a giant volcano planet

[@midgetydeath]

Ultramar's defense force is also trained by the Ultramarines themselves and so are among the absolute most elite soldiers in the Imperium.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Me: No, the chaos worshipers have it the worst! Me realizing that most of them are humans: Oh...

[@foreignfat6009]

But if they are chaos worshipers, they enjoy that suffering and are happy with that. How is that then bad for them?

[@670HP-Package-NOW]

​@@foreignfat6009selling your soul to the forces of actual, literal hell is never going to end in your favor. All it takes is half a thought from a bored greater demon and you'll find yourself getting turned into an unspeakable horror beyond comprehension

[@foreignfat6009]

@@670HP-Package-NOW Well, not with nurgle, turning into abomination is part of the desl

[@670HP-Package-NOW]

@@foreignfat6009 The idea that nurgles followers are always happy go lucky is not entirely true. It's more of a mantra his followers have to follow to the letter and force themselves to believe lest they get turned into a chaos spawn for disappointing grandpa

[@auugh43546]

@@670HP-Package-NOW But if you're a Cultist of Slaanesh, you're always truly happy... until your stash of corpse-crack runs out

[@lam2142]

Hey, Pancreas, you start living in the empire, BUT you lose your diabetes.

[@dogg6628]

food in the imperium has such little flavor it's probably all diabetes safe

[@worthlessclericbuild3866]

Not this again

[@pancreasnowork9939]

Worth it

[@ireallycant4416]

@@pancreasnowork9939 😭

[@galileofrank5779]

Another thing people often forget is the 8th edition codex, which literally says that as soon as Cadia fell *every* planet in the imperium was thrust into war with invading demons. There is literally only war for any human in the setting.

[@clairelili873]

not only that, but without the astranomicon, they dont have FtL travel. so even if you somehow fend off the daemons, good luck having any supply after the war

[@midnighteclipsed2738]

@@clairelili873 they have FTL, but the risk is like over 9000 time for using it

[@кира-ш4ъ]

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[@blocherxk6618]

Bro being a human in fantasy suck such much that even hobbits are constantly dabbing on the entirety of mankind.

[@kimarous]

I'd have to go digging through my books, but I remember reading in a 40k Codex that once a "good" planet got ruined because Khorne decided they had it too soft, instigating a Khornate flavoured apocalypse (raining blood, hailing skulls, that kind of thing). Such is the grimdark setting that even if you make your one particular world decent, the powers that be will take issue with that and make it not so. "Oh, look at that pleasant, undefended world," said (literally any faction who preys on anything unfortified).

[@mrziiz6893]

Eldar Maiden Worlds:

[@dragonslair951167]

"When I see a world untouched by war, a world of innocence, a world of lush forests and clear rivers, I really just wanna nuke the crap out of it." -Khorne, probably

[@brendonhavener]

I think it depends on when you’re born in the Empire. In 40K, golden age was looking pretty nice. In fantasy, pretty much any time in the Empire pre-End Times as long as you aren’t close to a border or Sylvania.

[@tedcruz212]

I think the elves that only survive when causing and experiencing constant pain would be worse to be human. There are also the Egyptian robots where the average one had their souls eaten by star vampires. You could also be the fish people who are surrounded by things who could wipe you clean off the map instantly if they paid attention to you for more than 30 seconds.

[@human6310]

Living as a human in 40k is like living at mininimal ultrashit situation, it could be worse by a lot but it could be better by a longshot. The only way you can achieve bliss is to be completely mindless or obscenely retarded.

[@critter2566]

@@human6310 So an Ork got it

[@apotato6278]

So either it's life as a web developer, life as a roomba or a life of constant anxiety fueled by the imminent threat of total annihilation. I'd much rather pick one of those over a 40k human. Hell, the sentient Necrons could feasibly live fulfilling and interesting lives. Just look at Trazyn. He has until the end of time to pursue his favorite hobby. Even if his favorite species is wiped from the universe he can just take a long nap and wake up to a galaxy of new and exciting civilizations.

[@mahogany7712]

@@human6310 Ogryns, FOR DA EMPRAH!

[@TricksterPoi]

The note about the Necrons about certain star vampires got retconned already... But the Space Egyptians is another story

[@lazysunside]

I remember reading somewhere that during the end times, for one night, the chaos and ratmen raid stopped and it surprised the empire. Imagine can’t even sleep in peace.

[@void-creature]

You know who has it worse than humans, in both settings? Humans again, but this time with the added benefit of Ĉ̴̝̎͘͝H̴̯̀̏̾̊̆A̸̛͎͙͑̚Ỏ̴̭S̶̬͙̭͗̇̎ ̸̛̹̙̦̝̤̳͆̅ ̸̧̞̗͖̠̖͒ͅC̷̬̖̞̆̒̅Ȯ̴̪̥̞̼̅͆̓̋͗͗R̶̛̼̠̪̮̱̾̅͋̈́͗R̷̘͆̈́̇͐͠Ų̷͇̙̂̄P̶̨̦͖̳̳̄̑̔̌̀͒̌ͅT̴̨̟̰̯̿̓͂̏̀̕͜Į̷̮̹̖̙̆ͅO̸͍̙̙̮̼̱͈̊̽̍͊̕Ǹ̴̥͇̼̲

[@rvkice23]

Heretic! *BLAM*

[@rKhael53]

@@rvkice23 Absolutely not

[@ToaArcan]

I dunno, Nurgle gang seem pretty happy even with their, rotting teeth, melted eyes, horns growing out of their orifices, exposed intestines and their rectums so badly prolapsed that they now have a constantly-shitting tail. I didn't make that last one up, mind, look up the Wurmspat.

[@Diego-zz1df]

@@rKhael53 Good luck defending the prospect of spending your whole life > infested by every plague, pox, parasite, fungus and invasive plant imaginable, plus several extra ones you can't even imagine > being driven insane by extreme overloads of pleasure and pain that only satisfy you for a short while before leaving you craving something even more extreme > enduring the most extreme, most psychopathic, ultra-violent PE class > losing all grasps on reality, time, etc. in an infinite, ever-changing maze of confusion as better than, just anything but that.

[@armondshakir3655]

AYO uh fuck em

[@snakething87]

To be honest the instant you’re teleported to the 40k universe one if not all the chaos gods would daemon prince you immediately for access to your 4th wall breaking knowledge.

[@rakisuzuki-burke4148]

Tzeentch absolutely would.

[@jontnay]

One thing about the pleasure worlds. They offer all kinds of pleasures to their guests. Even the disturbing kind. Guess who's being the subject of those disturbing things

[@battlion507]

Ah, like a Victorian Masquerade ball... with a side of Darkest Dungeon's Crimson Court, aside from the literal vampirism.

[@Inactive_Account29283]

Ooh fun

[@falsehero2001]

Stay tuned for more videos, like “water is wet”, “the sky is blue”, and “people die when they are killed”.

[@TheOneHoddToward]

"The archer class is really made of archers."

[@projectkepleren]

water is not wet stop spreading heresy

[@KevinKingofPrussians]

What is water?

[@Pebbleman-xp7tu]

@@KevinKingofPrussians wet

[@mausolus8466]

Well, given that common 40k fan thinks that Imperium is a best option there is (some even going so far to defend its system as democratic) and does those nasty things only because "it is forced to by uncaring universe", such videos are in place

[@Philtopy]

„Just because you have a lunch break in hell doesn’t mean you aren’t in hell.“ - this quote is gold

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

If you're a human and got isekaied you want to live on one of three places. 1. A T'au world. 2. A world hidden and independent from the Imperium. 3. A pleasure-world. Simple as, I'd probably pick the first one or the second one if given the choice, cause under the third I'd still be worried about a forced religion and likely my life being expendable to any Nobles whims, Independant world could be incredibly damn random on what kind of world it is, but its rolling a better dice then an Imperial world. T'au worlds have the most consistent quality of life and expectations, so I'd probably do the best there.

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

Dubai exists on Earth, today. It's entire economy is propped up by tourism and catering to the wealthy across the world. If you start looking into how any of the laborers in that city live you'll quickly realize that Pleasure Worlds can be much, much worse than hive worlds, because the incentive structure makes their oligarchs do it to their people deliberately, from the top down.

[@queencyrys6309]

Living on a pleasure world is a lot like being a native Hawaiian. You live in poverty, watching your beautiful home be squandered by rich asshole tourists, your only employment prospects being serving those assholes as the military fuck you around.

[@erds4113]

You’d still have the whole forced religion thing on a tau world. The Tau don’t call the greater good a religion, but they sure treat it like one.

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

@@erds4113 They seem to genuinely let you keep your faith, if you can call it a religion it is a syncretic religion by comparison to the imperium, I am Atheist/Non-Religious. So I would generally not truly struggle, they might send me to get reducated for being a hardcore leftist though. But even if I tried I do not think I could make any headway unless amongst other humans. Even if I introduced stuff like Unions, the T'au society could likely subvert any problems and easily integrate things, while giving me the smack for being rebellious. But if I shut up, I could live a decent probably tbh better life then I do now to some extent.

[@axios4702]

@@erds4113 No, the Greater Good is a way of life that prioritizes the group over the individual, its not a religion, there are no rituals and its not based on superstition. You are free to worship the Emperor or almost any other deity as long as you dont go around shouting "death to the xenos!" The Ethereals may have an spiritual leader vibe, but they arent, they supposedly rule through wisdom, not faith.

[@axelory7676]

I want to quickly mention that Araby most likely has a much better grasp on medicine than the Empire. If the Doctor you're talking about is the one from Skavenslayer, he learned how to practice medicine from an Arabyan University. Also, you've used Trazyn as an example for someone who might be glad that the Necrons are now soulless immortal machines, even though in the Infinite and the Divine he is clearly shown to lament the loss of the Necrons souls. Part of the reason he collects so many artifacts is to celebrate the Necrons once thriving culture and creativity, and maybe try and regain his soul through it. In the same book, though, we have Orikan, who does like his new body. He believes that the cost of his soul is vastly outweighed by his power over the universe, and he even spends the book trying to be more like the C'tan, who didn't really have any bodies at all until the Necrons gave them some. I realize this is quite an "Um, Actually..." comment, but i thought of it, and i don't think it hurts to post it.

[@foreignfat6009]

If humans have magicians. Why they never solve anything? Even with selfish person as magician, it can make him rich if he magicaly solves the plague.

[@ethanhall2655]

Doesn’t Orikan spend the entire book trying to get a soul by any means? Trazyn is conflicted, sure, but Orikan is really against the whole being dead thing.

[@anna-flora999]

​@@ethanhall2655he wants to ascend to godhood on the level of a c'tan, not necessarily get his soul back. He sees the pursuit of getting back your soul by undoing biotransferance as foolish for example

[@matthiasthulman4058]

Drexler is the doctors name on Skavenslayer. Can't remember first name

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

My strategies for living in Warhammer as a human: AOS: I’d run to the nearest village getting raided by chaos and try to die valiantly so I can become a Stormcast. It’s better than living as a normal person. 40k: I’d enlist for the Planetary Defense Force and just try and be as loyalist as possible. The Commissar would therefore be less inclined to shoot me. Then I’d hope for a promotion. If not and I see Drukhari or Chaos running towards the front lines, I’m pulling the pin on a grenade and kamikaze charging.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

@@Dimitris_Half Eh better that than whatever Chaos does to me.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

@@Dimitris_Half Better to die for the emperor than live for yourself.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

@@Dimitris_Half Yes.

[@s.a.l.1974]

Drukhari can like recreate your body mind and soul from any piece of your body so it would have to be a pretty big grenade for that to work lol

[@shintfunk5111]

>Humanity is the worse Warhammer race to live as You’re… not wrong

[@floricel_112]

He actually is, simply for the fact that the dark eldar exist

[@philipgodsworth4764]

Nah I’d say the majority of Dark Eldar’s population have nightmare lives.

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

ehhhh

[@witherbendisch2704]

You mean the slaves

[@keineangabe1804]

If you die for any reason (which will happen to >99%) you go directly to super hell. So yeah, don't be a dark eldar.

[@marcusaaronliaogo9158]

@@keineangabe1804 But you have your “doctors” that revive you easily if you pay up to them.

[@keineangabe1804]

@@marcusaaronliaogo9158 Most of them still die sooner or later. Name one dark eldar that witnessed the fall and that is still alive. There are about a dozen of them and most are mad.

[@N4chtigall]

Paradoxically propably the best thing to do as a human in warhammer would be to literally go insane. For real. Become corrupted by chaos, become some kind of chaos puppet and if you are good at it you would even have chance to become some kind of champion all while having fun and enjoying yourself. Sounds pretty good to me.

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

A couple problems with that though. Chaos Champions in Fantasy already have most, if not all, of their personality wiped away so you're essentially a shadow of your former self. It gets worse if you slip up. You could turn into a Chaos Spawn for your failure. Then there's the Warp itself. Allegedly, Human Souls are too fragile to survive the Warp and disintegrate upon death so what little is left of your sad excuse of a husk you call a soul will dissolve into nothingness. It's only fun as long as the Gods deem it so.

[@christiandauz3742]

Doombreed is still alive

[@deeznuts-kw6yv]

@@thewhompingwampa2671 so best bet would be to go for nurgle. Guy is generally your best bet for a half decent "life"

[@Carmoth86730]

Well, Daemonhood is the ultimate reward after all, especially in 40k cuz you're given control over a whole Daemon world as well, besides immortality. And hence why Chaos is a closely kept secret, such promise is enough to corrupt any weak minded.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@Carmoth86730 Chaos is very OP Skulltaker can defeat anyone 1 vs 1 below a Primarch's level

[@gotmilk5899]

Isn’t intense, long term torture one of the things space marines have to go through during their indoctrination? If anything wouldn’t being a space marines be worse than being a regular human on average?

[@foreignfat6009]

Your are indoctrinated into your culture, arent you? As all of us are. How do you even know if something is horrible in your culture? I dont see indoctrination as something horrible for you and your life. For example being slave from birth, you just accept it and feel happy for things normal person wouldnt be. What do you mean by long term torture? You mean coversion to space marine? Is that a long term, if they can life for so long? Or do you mean mental torture that they are living in shit galaxy? But again, if they are brainwashed. It wont be such an issue. Sure, they might be depressed from losing their brothers. But how is that worse than for average human?

[@dinodude6992]

If you bring the necrontyr into the mix, maybe being a human is some what ok, because being a necrontyr would be a painful existence But now they're all robots now so they get a one up on humanity

[@johnvinnedge3734]

I dont disagree with most of your points. The only one I have an issue with is the agriculture world one. But similar to the paradise world ones, they are not all that common so they dont really change much. They aren't great, but they are not all that bad either (by that universe's standards). The reason this is irrelevant is because like you mentioned, most humans come from hive worlds. Overall fun video.

[@irontemplar6222]

To be fair the reason why they would be bad. Like most of these worlds. Is because the writers of 40k don't understand things like development, technology to production ratios, and the benefits of industrialization. It actually might be more accurate to say that the writers of 40k only know about the negative aspects of something to the point at which they ignore the positives or the context of how said negatives might be a step up from the past.

[@mikehawkisb1g]

@@irontemplar6222 I think thats the point though, with the genre being grimdark and all. Alot of the times though its definetly more grimdumb than true grimdark.

[@navilluscire2567]

@@irontemplar6222 Positives such as?

[@irontemplar6222]

@@navilluscire2567 an example would be the invention of the mills and factories. Despite the attempt to paint them as these dark satanic things (from the perspective of the journalists covering them) The people went to work their voluntarily, and in doing so their quality of life increased drastically as did their life spans, and general education. Now it obviously wasn't perfect, but for many of the people that went to work at them. Had they not the only thing they had to look forward to is maybe starving to death come winter, and even if they didn't maybe inheriting a small family farm that's struggling to make ends meet. Despite the exaggerated portrayal of the negative aspects of industrialization. On the overall it vastly improved people's lives, and that includes the people who worked in them. It also worked to improve the environment as well, but that is its own subject and a fairly long one aswell.

[@navilluscire2567]

@@irontemplar6222 If by *"improve"* you mean subject them to a system of further exploitation by the elites of societies. How exactly did things like early industrialization improve the lives of people, you just say they did but don't specify how as if the advent of industry alone suddenly and *magically* made people's lives better.

[@n0n4me77]

3:12 to quote Tv Tropes: "Behind its veneer of bright, swishing colored flags, vast emerald rice paddies and stunning sparkling lakes, noble Dragons who seem to care for humanity's best interests, and massive power, Cathay, while being one of the better places to live comparatively, is just as oppressive as the other human nations. The Flavor Text of the various building chains reveals that there's a massive "labor bureau" that ruthlessly enforces its will upon the human population, throwing anyone who disagrees into giant labor camps where they’re implied to be worked to death. There's also a propaganda bureau that builds the place up as a perfect Utopia and ruthlessly hunts down any dissenters. Most of the Ruling Dragons are said to secretly view their human subjects as ants and will sacrifice untold numbers of them without hesitation for barely any gain, yet they are worshipped and venerated with such fervor that people will kill for the slightest level of disrespect being aimed at them! And that's just the interior, the Northern borders of Cathay are constantly assailed by Chaos warbands numbering in the tens of thousands monthly, and the Southern Border is a warzone between Khuresh, Ind, and the Monkey King. It sucks to live in the Crapsack World of the World That Was, and Cathay, despite its outwardly more bright appearance, is no exception."

[@manuvirajkhare]

You mind dropping the link?

[@n0n4me77]

@@manuvirajkhare Just search "tv tropes grand cathay" and click on general tropes.

[@manuvirajkhare]

@@n0n4me77 Found it. Thanks for the directions.

[@daveholland6293]

Redditor

[@n0n4me77]

@@daveholland6293 ?

[@Knight1029]

Skaven on the grind is such a perfect meme that needs to be made. If it has already been made then I need to see that.

[@Alex-cq1zr]

Humans in 40k not working 24/7 even on a hive world? What about humans who get turned into servitors? While most of them don't remember a lot, it's still a miserable life and the memories can sometimes return. Like, being a cyborg zombie and working 24/7. Quite a horror.

[@shooey-mcmoss]

I remember a story where bureaucratic ~~AI~~ servitor... just ate minds of some other servitors, gained more and more power.... just reject individual and go to Human's Homolog, that servitor-Borg-thingie literally found his homeplanet eventually

[@BigJubble]

14:00 Intense indoctrination, forcibly making you live though your very worst memories again and again (and if suitably horrible memories aren't available then they will manufacture them for you with psychic powers), intense physical training with a VERY high likely hood of death, and even if you survive if you are deemed unworthy you basically become a slave or turned into a servitor (which is much worse). People seem to forget that Space marines at the result of taking children with already horrible lives and then mentally and physically torturing them to the point of insanity. Sure you MIGHT end up a massive super soldier in two tones of power armour (at which point you get to experience the absolute worse fighting the galaxy can throw at you because your a space marine cuz thats your job), but most people picked to become space marines fail and/or die long before that.nd

[@UNSCMarine117]

These videos are great and I'm glad you got recommended to me. Here's to 20K subscribers, and here's to many more.

[@badfoody]

Humanity: Has Faith, Steel and Gunpowder. Other Races: Does not have Faith, Steel and Gunpowder Nah bruh

[@atpsoldat6108]

I'm fairly certain the dwarfs have all three of those.

[@badfoody]

@@atpsoldat6108 they also got yo mama

[@timothywillox8564]

That’s going in the fucking book

[@miroslavputinovic6650]

But the others have all of those

[@InquisitorThomas]

@@miroslavputinovic6650 I’m pretty sure Nehekara doesn’t, but they have Settra, Bronze, and Chariots.

[@Thesavagesouls]

What are you talking about, you can die for the emperor of mankind. Truely a blessing.

[@SamueL-td7fb]

Dying for Gork > dying for Mork > dying for the corpse

[@Thesavagesouls]

@@SamueL-td7fb how dare you !

[@DeliriumTrigger2]

Based and Loyaltypilled

[@magnusjvl]

That AOM music fits so well, such a nostalgia trip too.

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Araby supposedly has quite advanced medicine. (Gotrek and Felix spoilers below .... .... .... .... .... .... .... Reminder that Doctor Drexler who treated Felix in skaven slayer mentions that he was educated in medicine in araby and mentions that's pretty much how all physicians are there.

[@GamStr-xq3vc]

In any Warhammer setting it sucks to be a human

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

ehh in many ways fantasy is just between a bit worse or a bit better Renneiscance humanity.

[@inquisitorthornside3p494]

*it sucks to be*

[@jolintropitantos2511]

Love your vids, voice, charisma and keep it rolling!!

[@Kingpins302]

“I’m not 5 I’m 6” is probably the best line I heard in this video

[@aceghost1074]

Who has EVER read anything about humanity in 40k and is like "oh now this is going to the top of my fantasy vacation list"

[@foreignfat6009]

Doesnt it apply for any race in 40K? Eldar is appeling is for their immense life span, but being eternaly stuck in purgatory or having your soul raped for eternity might not be worth.

[@ToaArcan]

I feel like people who think being a human in 40K is good have forgotten two simple words: Corpse. Starch.

[@Mipamyanmiro]

I imagine it taste similar to liver pate

[@auugh43546]

@@Mipamyanmiro i've heard in lore that it barely tastes like anything, honestly

[@Inactive_Account29283]

I feel like it will taste like kinda raw spam but worse

[@kiutoro2013]

"even in death, I'm still served"

[@pawegrzybowski6368]

I would make an argument that living as a part of a chaos cult of Nurgle (if it's not discovered by the Inquisition) is better lifr than of an average imperial citizen

[@SamueL-td7fb]

The cult still gets nuked because someone on the other side of the planet had a friend who's uncle saw a Grey Knight

[@mikehawkisb1g]

@@SamueL-td7fb Fantasy bro, not 40k

[@99redpontoons]

@@mikehawkisb1g The initial poster of this thread said 'Inquisition', pretty sure that makes it clear he's talking about 40k.

[@99redpontoons]

The lower rank and file of the cult aren't the ones getting the cool chaosy shit. They're the sacrifices, cannon fodder and rubes to scam for revenue. And odds are you're not going to even know it's a chaos cult as a result, just an alcoholics anonymous foundation, foreign aid charity or some shit like that.

[@mikehawkisb1g]

@@99redpontoons Theres an Inquisition in Age Of Sigmar too though? Im confused.

[@ravenRedwake]

In 40k there are more worlds that are comprable to Earth than there are Hive Planets (like how Terra and Necromunda is) but there is a lot of anachronistic steam punk grimdark tech where there is extreme manual labor to do something like load shells into a ships gun and Imperial ships can just pressgang civilians into service when they come to a planet. You never get to leave the ship. But there is absolutely worlds just like how the United States is (warts and all) where nothing much happens, productivity is met or exceeded and atypically shit doesn’t go bad or wrong at all. But to hear about those worlds would be boring and not really in keeping with the tagline “there is only war” so you don’t hear about them. The tau would probably be the best place to live as a human since they do have excellent living standards, with a close second being to live in the Ultramar sector which have the best living conditions within the Imperium.

[@FarremShamist]

I think a lot of the manual labor for things like ships and forge worlds was done away with, it just didn't make sense given the machinery at play. On various worlds however, it can be a very different story.

[@chopperjoe1998]

Less United States, more modern Nazi Germany or Soviet Union I’d say. Sure, still leagues better than a Hive World. But still dystopian and suffocating, even without a war going on.

[@BossEvasion]

A chance to fight alongside Karl Franz would be one of the only positives to being isekai’d into Warhammer and a human of the Empire.

[@STzim]

Pleasure worlds look nice but living there is probably horrifying too. I`d expect palace intrigue turned up to eleven. And we start at 'has to murder all brothers to becom sultan` level. Then there are the aristocrats/rulers of other worlds that were send to a pleasure world just because they couldn`t be murdered for one reason or the other (and the maids may decide the reasons have stopped). Fallen from power is a diffrent kind of suck to the usual. Oh and perhaps a few lucky members after decades-centuries of campain close to insanity that might heal. Or go on a rampage... I`d not bet on pleasure worlds of 40k to be even decent living.

[@solinvictus2018]

A medieval farmer would spend significantly less time on fulfilling his quota obligation to his liege than we will spend on earning what we pay in taxes....

[@rKhael53]

Also, most medieval people worked LESS DAYS IN A YEAR that we do (because half of the year was religious celebrations)

[@caos1925]

as the meme goes "hey wanna live in star wars, or harry potter?" oh cool sure "Hey wanna live in warhammer?" oh fuck no!

[@alexrexaros9837]

That's crazy in Fantasy, because essentially most Fantasy factions are like, 50% humans. There are three Elven factions, Two underdeveloped Dwarf factions, One Ork, One Ogre, One Lizardmen, One Skaven (with different clans, granted). Humans have Bretonnia, The Empire, Tilea (sorta), Kislev, Cathay, Nippon, etc.

[@foreignfat6009]

Eh? Arent rat clans complete different from each other? Like Eshin and Moulder are further from each other, more than Bretonnia and Empire. Elven? Wait, only 3? You counter Tilea, why not count different cults for Dark elves then? I can go on with other factions besides Ogres.. Like you did with humans.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

What fantasy universe is good to humans? Witcher you get raided by demons or elves. Warcraft your under oppression. LOTR your under constant attack, plague, and (unless your a ranger) have short lives. Let’s just all be elves

[@justthunderbolt40]

It's mind boggling how this simple fact is disputed by so many people. Outside of the witcher world(and even there, before the humans arrived on the continent they were fine) in every fantasy world elves have far better living conditions.

[@InquisitorThomas]

@@justthunderbolt40 Eh… there are a couple of example of Fantasy worlds where elves have it pretty shit. Dragon Age is a big example where not only has their golden age passed, but they’re either living in Slums of Human Cities or Nomads who are at constant risk of humans in the next town over “not taking kindly to your kind round these parts **Spits**” and forming a lynch mob. The overlord games Elves have it kinda shitty too since they pretty much got genocided and their home forest became their king’s Nightmare hellscape.

[@vylbird8014]

Omelas.

[@OckhamAsylum]

Here's what I hate about the Empire in fantasy: the lack of unity or practicality. Life sucks for the people of the Empire not just because they live in a feudal pre-industrial society, but because they act like they don't live in the world of Warhammer. They're going about things as if this is a normal human society on Earth with nothing supernatural going on. It's all about rivalries between city states and nobles and elector counts, squabbles over petty claims and insults and taxes. Are they like... not bothered by the fact that there are literal inhuman man-eating monsters in every single direction who adamantly want every member of humanity enslaved or dead or both at once? Like ALL THE TIME? I mean there are ACTUAL daemons jumping out of holes in reality in the north. This is a well-known fact, it's not like governors and dukes don't understand that there are real monsters in their world. So what the hell does it take to get people working together more often? I'm sorry, is the constant threat of hundreds of thousands of monsters pouring from every single direction not enough to get people motivated to stop bitching about how much gold they own or what the gossipy wife of the mayor one town over said about you? As a leader of the Empire you have nothing but a meme (HURR DURR, FURTH, STURL UN GUNPUDUH!!!) to fend off hordes of superhuman terrors that can each individually slice thirty men in half with one swing of their warp-spawned cocks. Meanwhile, you're spending the blood of thousands of men as you wage war with your neighbor because some hoity toity Averlander noblewoman loosely related to the elector count implied that Sigmar didn't grant you a big dick. Que confusion when the magical laser-shooting lovecraftian hellspawn come in the millions and your Steward-of-Gondor ass doesn't understand how you couldn't possibly have enough dirty peasants with floppy hats to throw at the armies of evil. Give the Imperium _some_ credit, they at least properly unite and mobilize against threats (or at least as well as you can when the battlefields are thousands of lightyears apart from each other).

[@dontknowwhattocallmyself9453]

damn he really succumbed to slannesh's affect at the end

[@hannibalfloyd]

Hearing that Age of Mythology soundtrack music in the middle of discussing the finer points of which Warhammer races it sucks the most to live as felt pretty weird but i like

[@CptDylster]

First person I’ve seen to mention the AoM music 👌

[@aimaimaimmiamiamia6890]

right~??~?~ aom music .. im having goosebumps

[@xanmontes8715]

*Pharaoh noises*

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

Well Araby, Tilea and Estalia at least have more medical understanding than the Empire does. Also, Dark Elves have to live with the constant paranoia of being backstabbed, also Death Night. You also forgot to mention the Organ thieves on Hive Worlds and forgot to mention Feudal and Industrial Worlds along with Hell-Forges. Also, I guess you're kind of right about Age of Sigmar being a High Fantasy shithole Morathi is even more of a parasite than she already was (poor Khaine).

[@Rocky-rs8tw]

Congratulations, you have successfully gotten the point of Warhammer.

[@zandaroos553]

11:20 jokes on you, I’m from New York so this sounds completely normal to me

[@glenphenix2188]

The background music at around 6 minutes is from Age of Mythology. Classy stuff

[@Matt-FRESHMINTY]

Another thing to consider in 40k is that nice worlds aren't important to the war machine. If Orks come knocking, space marines aren't gonna lift a finger to help. Cadia, a planet next to hell, was hilariously a planet that you'd have the most security in whilst also being able to have normal job to occupy you in between your mandatory PDF shifts.

[@andrewamann2821]

Plot twist: the universe is just Trayzn's pile of shame.

[@JohnWarhammer]

Spouting your Aeldari propaganda again, Pancreas? Based.

[@Sara3346]

And aelf-pilled?

[@HolyknightVader999]

Also, Hive and Forge worlds are basically the Fallout universe without them getting nuked. Living in them will make you wish for a nuclear apocalypse. Because at least most of your people will finally get an end to their suffering.

[@s.a.l.1974]

patrolling Mars really makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@alexandresiemsen798]

Honestly, when it comes to 40k I think the admech might have it better then people think. I mean, if you are taken by then and turned into a servitor or a skitarii you'll probably lose your feelings, personality and free will, but you won't have to experience the terror and despair of being drafted to a battlefield where you'll die in the first 20 minutes in a horrible and painful way or how it fills to work 16 hours per day on a hive city

[@boowompthecat]

Actually my new favourite warhammer KZbinr Hell even just "KZbinr" if you branch out Good luck Mr. Pancrease

[@boodle399]

I remember a friend once telling me this sorta theory in warhammer 40k lore that I really like and I think is emblematic of what is wrong with the Impurium: mainly the theory goes that if the emperor of mankind were to officially die, instead of the world ending his spirit would actually go directly to chaos and maybe not *save* the setting but fix a lot of the issues with chaos and make warp travel safer. Now I'm sure some fat Warhammer 40k nerd who's read horus heresy like 180 times before bed will call me out and say how I'm wrong or whatever but I still like this theory as it shows off the Imperium's hypocrisy nature and how Empire's symbol of hope, the person that formed the culture of this empire and everything they fight for: it's better off dead and forgotten for everyone involved. Humanity is shooting themselves in the foot and they are too prideful and fanatic to realize it. Also reminder anytime you say "praise the emperor", called him "God emperor" or do anything religious in his name you are literally spitting on his wishes and directly in his face given he never wanted a religion around him.

[@cousinzeke4888]

My favorite theory is that Horus actually did successfully whack him and the custodes have been desperately working to keep that particular genie in the bottle ever since.

[@projectkepleren]

dude please use comma and period because, this was hard to read

[@boodle399]

@@projectkepleren what? I did like I even went back to check. are you sure you're not like dyslexic?

[@projectkepleren]

@@boodle399 no I'm not dyslexic

[@Binichmoses2]

Arent Humans forced to become mindless Servitors when they commit crimes?

[@xanmontes8715]

Man, all this info sure puts the awful reality of life in perspective... Such is the power of Nagash.

[@MTGDuelist8870]

it's even worse for space marines then what's mentioned at 13:44. remember that IF you are selected to become a space marine, your never allowed to see your family again unless your a salamander and even then the process to get there isn't a cakewalk, and if your a salamanders they will quite literally bathe you in fire. you have to go through various different trials and depending on which chapter your apart of the trials alone are so dangerous that you might die at the hands of your fellow initiates on the first trial if you don't die to whatever the trial has you doing in the first place. on top of that in between these trials you also have to endure MULTIPLE surgeries to get all of the required organs to even function as a proper space marine and these surgeries can kill you if your body ends up rejecting or having a bad reaction to whatever organ or gene seed they cram into your body. and it's not just organs either, the first surgery they give you they stick a sheet of metal into your chest. and if they fuck up the surgery somehow and you die cause they fucked up, they will not hesitate to chuck your dead body into the gutters. humanity sucks to live as in 40K

[@KhoaLe-uc2ny]

Come to think of it, GW's grimdark writing is really stupid if you get down to it. Fucking Berserk's grimdark works better imo.

[@GeorgePerakis]

Imagine siding with the Nazis because they're fighting Cthulhu That's the Imperium.

[@rollye4857]

>implying

[@omicronrho9951]

You treat others like you’re a nazi and you treat each other like a soviet

[@DeliriumTrigger2]

Yes

[@foreignfat6009]

*fascists It is just the most effective goverment for war.

[@physical_insanity]

Well, yeah, if Cthulu's attacking, you get all the help you can get.

[@istvansipos9940]

16:00 that's a high ratio of lefties in 1 platoon / squad / whatever

[@idcgaming518]

2:23 funny thing actually - my first (and so far only, unfortunately) DnD campaign I took part in was set in a WH-fantasy Empire of man setting. Ironically enough, there was a revolution (liberal socialist though, nowhere near communist), and my character, a paladin working for a holy order dedicated to peacekeeping and order in general, abandoned his party to join the revolutionaries. Funnily enough, he quickly became second in command to the leader of the revolutionaries, an oath of the common man paladin (mine was oath of heroism) who had previously been the only one to comfort my character after he got PTSD from trying to heal people in the city's slums (including the brothel - I actually asked the DM - in character, of course - as to where the place with the most people to heal would be and he said it would be the brothel). After that oath of the common man Paladin died halfway through the revolution (after the city, and multiple others on other continents, had already fallen to it), my character took over and led the revolution (according to the "end slide" of sorts my DM showed us), leading to effectively a blitzkrieg-style overruning of it, leading to less than 2 years of actual war and chaos, giving the chaos cults no time at all to form and bring their gods in, meaning that didnt happen. And for some reason, the DM insisted that my leader became the new Sigmar (as in, a technically immortal deity-level entity) as the gods of order (ironic, since my paladin was an atheist) bestowed the title and gifts on my character. Even crazier, it actually worked according to the DM - I was able to form a liberal socialist democratic system for the main civillian government, with the millitary under my control, as I was given the title "lord protector" (yes, like cromwell - no, I did not go full puritan), and my character succesfully lead this empire to crush the skaven, orcs and many other threats, actually incorporating those loyal to him into the nation he founded, nomatter the race. And he actually created a truly enlightened democracy - basically, what the Emperor from 40k was aiming for for the future of humanity.

[@RicSimanePL]

I love you and hate you for this video xD A few days ago I didn't care about Warhammer at all. Then KZbin randomly suggested this video in my feed. I watched it and now I'm binge watching all WH 40K lore videos xD

[@the0sanitydokutah967]

It's warhammer. WAR-hammer. There's no peace only war, no pleasure only pain, no life only constant violence, death and destruction. The tabletop game is for doing battles/scenarios/operations that resembles war, not some good life simulator. It's a fantasy that pleasures our mind of wanting constant glory, drama and carnage in battle but also having the pleasure of not dying or losing something (other than money and time) in doing so. I'm just a newbie in this fandom tho and this is what my opinion on what I have read, watch and see in Warhammer universe

[@somerandomdude7785]

"Humanity is the worst Warhammer race to live as" Hell, humans in the Xeelee Sequence is even worse.

[@thechangeling3851]

To be completely hopeful, if there was a race you likely would be isekaied into it would be the orks in 40k. There is just so zoggin many of them (not as much as the tyranids obviously, but tyranids seem to have no free will/intelligence outside of the hivemind) more than humans for certain. The thing is about orks is that your life expectancy is probably going to be very, very short...but orks don't exactly have a "growth" period humans do so you can get right to work, and you are going to enjoy fighting every single minute, laugh at brutality and destruction like children, and frankly feel like you have some sort of belonging to a big group...some may not be the best, and you hate some of the others, but they are still green and that is cool. Basically, orks are by far the most content race in 40k...if your lucky you might have some sort of special skill or are just ard enough to get up the ranks (if your a weird boy...well...that is a unlucky RIP for you) which means you might actually move up in life. Living conditions generally don't seem to be a primary worry...pain just "works different" and a Ork is generally as a whole probably one of the toughest races on average when it comes to survival. (hell...losing your head might just be a inconvicence if a rippa doc is around). frankly, I'm struggling to think of a time in 40k lore where the orcs were actually having a "bad time" and not enjoying themselves as long as they were fighting...

[@SamueL-td7fb]

The only "sad" Orkz i can think about are the ones trapped in shithole planets with very little resources. Which means all tribes are weak, the growth rate is low because of how little killing is taking place, plus they can't even leave in space ships because the resources are absolute garbage and all tribes have next to nothing anyway. All you can do is hope that a big and strong Warboss rises to power and unites the clans, and that might take a while...

[@thechangeling3851]

@@SamueL-td7fb even then there still is fighting among the tribes, and orks love to fight (if they don't fight other tribes they probably would fight among themselves). Basically as long as there is not any major land features that keep them from fighting each other they will find ways to scrap with each other. Part of me now wants to see a bunch of classical era or age of the sail naval game where its just a bunch of orks on a mostly island planet waging naval war against each other like a bunch of priates

[@thechangeling3851]

@MonsterousBearFolk i mean...that is the ork mindset I honestly think. I don't think orks die of old age, and to an individual ork they believe that they will become the strongest and best until someone krumps them and proves them wrong. If I'm correct I don't think orks even have a concept of death as we know it...like they know something might hurt a ton, and that they can kill gitz, but they don't generally seem to have a fear of death (being final) rather instead a fear of significant pain...which makes sense as why some orks effectively on adrenaline rushes don't seem to have limited to no self preservation, because they are being driven to ignore stupid amounts of pain. Though...this is all a theory and observation from one whom doesn't fully understand ork lore...especially as im more a necron and tech priest enthusiast.

[@zacharyseiders5793]

You get to drive a cool, crazy truck and you might die hilariously, rather than horribly. Oh and life is pretty simple, fighting and getting ready for a fight.

[@Mike-ij4rq]

0:50 maybe you would be a serf, but I own land, *pheasant*

[@knpark2025]

12:00 I think your "hive worlds account for half of 40k humanity" is a solid heuristic. IRL ca. 2020s Earth has a bit more than 50% urbanization rate, so assuming hive worlds are 3k equivalent of cities it is not a stretch to estimate half or more humans in those "city" worlds. If someone asks me to pick a race to live in 40k universe I will choose the bois every time. I am not choosing humans; it is like betting my physical and mental well-being on a Powerball or Mega-Millions.

[@connorsantonocito6015]

I disagree with most of the points brought up in fantasy. Lacking modern technology and comfort doesn't make their lives particularly worse compared to contemporary people and there isn't a sense of woe among Bretonnia, the Empire of Man or Cathay compared to other races. Both High Elves and Dwarves are dying races, many of their current cities being partially empty due to dwindling inhabitants which leaves a sense of melancholy. Then the dark and wood elves have far from comfortable lives where the former live in a tribal society where every day is a fight to survive with the threat of beastmen or tree spirits killing you at random. The dark elves are arguably the worst society to live in considering their cutthroat society which has amazingly awful traditions such as Blood Night where mass murder is condoned and infants are thrown into boiling cauldrons mostly to die. Also the Dark Elves live on the verge of the chaos wastes which means they regularly fight hordes of daemons and chaos worshippers. Overall I feel this is unfair to the humans and overstated the apperant suffering a common person would face.

[@justthunderbolt40]

I don't think it's an exaggeration, considering that the vast majority of the population of human factions, like Brettonia, live a life of hard work for nothing at all, purposely kept in ignorance and yet called to be cannon fodder every time a chaos invasion comes. Beastmens and dark elves have it worse, true: but why would anyone, given the choice, choose to be born as a bretonnian peasant, rather than be born as an elf in Avelorn and live a life free of any hardship thanks to magic?

[@Mongoosesummoner]

@@justthunderbolt40 Yes. Because I wouldn't be going EXTINCT.

[@justthunderbolt40]

@@Mongoosesummoner Overpopulation is worse than being on the decline.

[@Mongoosesummoner]

@@justthunderbolt40 Not really, no. Particularly for elves who seem to have a hard time siring children. Doubly so for the Eldar. And then when they HAVE children it takes them gods know how long to reach adulthood and start families of their own, meanwhile more and more elves are dying every day from one conflict or another. The Dwarves in Warhammer are Particularly bad about the whole matter due to the book of grudges the have to follow. They launch a war over being slighted a few pennys,, then they take down the list of dwarves who died during THAT war and now that needs to be avenged, and on and on. They're basically stupiding themselves to extinction.

[@justthunderbolt40]

@@Mongoosesummoner That's why the elves prefer to use manipulation to get what they want, rather than start wars for everything as the dwarves do. Their numbers will always be low due to their fertility, but I'd rather live a few centuries with the complete freedom of doing what I want, rather than be a peasant in the empire or bretonnia, constantly working just to scrape by and at the risk of being drafted because the lords keep fighting among themselves. If that's what it takes to avoid extinction, it's not worth it at all.

[@deformiertergolfball4847]

not to forget about how suicidal the humans are in this franchise. like there are tons of jobs wich make the people doing it just die on purpose. i have read about some techpriests wich are used to walk into a dangerous zone in a imperial fleet to refill it and die

[@pedrohenryque1361]

Workers of the Empire unite!

[@clancer1082]

bro, that last minute of the video was priceless. thank you for making all of this wonderful content. You have offishly made my day.