Humans are Herbivores in Denial - w/ Science!

[@MictheVegan]

For everyone who thinks this video was debunked below, here is my response video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rILcgoZpmZ1peKM

[@OrangeHealia]

Thank you for this video. Shared and re-shared. Superior work.

[@quasi-human3456]

Excellent !!!

[@edc2879]

I guess you have nether heard of Umami and MSG www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/apr/09/umami-fifth-taste

[@veganreason4818]

Yeah. That was one detail off, but the rest is solid. Also, a number of plant foods contain glutamines and give an umami flavor, so there's that.

[@heatherleisure]

You people don't know your head from your ass. Glutamate is one of the most important excitatory neurotransmitters in the brain. More than half the brain's synapses use glutamate. It is responsible for countless operations in the brain and is extremely important to IQ and memory. You also need it to make GABA. As a side note: Don't confuse glutamine, glutamic acid, and glutamate. Here's one example of why glutamate is not your enemy any more than any other neurotransmitter is your enemy: Down Syndrome involves a significant imbalance in the GABA-glutamate relationship. People with DS have way too much GABA activity and too little glutamate activity (they have fewer active glutamate receptors). Get it? I heard this other moron say some other plant foods contain glutamine - he says it as if glutamine isn't the most abundant amino acid in protein - you will find significant percentages of glutamine in ANY PROTEIN SOURCE no matter if it's meat, fish, insect, plant, whatever. Monosodium glutamate is a very common naturally occurring amino acid. It doesn't do anything particularly evil in the brain and the bullshit scary myths about it have been debunked. It's not a poison and it's not a sugar, it doesn't naturally occur in foods to make them tastier, so stop acting like it is.

[@djaldd420]

"In our culture acting like an omnivore is normal... but nowadays it's also normal to be sick."

[@Makkaru112]

That quote right there says ALOT, doesn't it? But of course more people are going to come in with their " higher knowledge " and call the healthy one insane when in fact they are just calling themselves insane. I mean why not lead in example if they are so effing healthy and great? They can't, now can they? lol Sad though that most of the bad sides of the vegan community has gotten out to the public and so then of course those highly analytical and opinionated people will put their stamp on Vegans being idiots and so forth. It's indeed a challenge to be a Vegan in a totally close minded society. I'm super happy for those who have more options and support. Wish it became more of a thing and something more worthwhile to watch on TV other than the dawn of BS lies and social conditioning.. x.x

[@Cazanu417]

djaldd420 nowadays?bitch just 100 years ago if you lived till 40 you were lucky if you didnt die of some disease,tuberculosis was normal,now the life expectancy is 74 the longest we ever had and we are consuming way more meat than ever.

[@SteveSmekar-ll6ln]

JaCk MeOff so modern medicine is able drag out the lifespan a bit. I challenge you to spend a week in a retirement home and observe the "quality "of life that these people endure. most generally, they are miserable.

[@Cazanu417]

at 70 youre an old fart no matter how many carrots you eat nor skiping a few steaks and replacing them with more of them VEGAN french fries is gonna make a difference.

[@dylanwight5764]

"In our culture, acting like a fan of hard rock is normal... but in our culture it's also normal to be sick" The levels of cognitive dissonance here is insane

[@rorygrady5521]

Your data is out dated. The PH of the stomach is often closer to 1 which is closer to carnivores and like vultures.

[@j.hammat177]

Since cats are carnivores, they lack the digestive enzymes necessary to properly digest plant matter, which results in vomiting. When a cat regurgitates the grass, other indigestible matter like hairballs are also eliminated from the body, providing relief.

[@j.hammat177]

Personally I eat meat because it lets me throw up all the plant matter and hair I end up licking off my body. Good video

[@theTOOLshed1]

@@j.hammat177 haha nice

[@hazynpeterson4083]

simple and elegant explanation.....great hypothesis,,, thanks

[@KK-lg8uz]

but cats produce small amounts amylase that can break down starches. Where did you get this from? Can you explain in more detail please In evolutionary selection a species only loses a trait if its no longer useful. We evolved from a herbivorous species around 3.5 million years ago, losing the ability to metabolise plants is not a selection advantage. Early anthropological data shows that humans are highly carnivorous going back 3.4 million years.

[@jhonayo4887]

​@@KK-lg8uz says who? Can you even catch a mouse and eat it raw with no problem? Or can you indiscriminately eat road kill and not die of food poisoning? We are very poor carnivores if what you say is true.

[@aidankenny13]

Mic. Love the channel, however as a vegan myself too many of us make too much of the herbivore argument. Even if we we're completely omnivore it doesn't change the fact that a properly planned vegan diet is healthy, sustainable and far more moral than a more omnivorous diet, and that is a far better argument than the herbivore one.

[@johnc.8298]

Moral? Are you trying to impose your personal values on others who do not agree with you? Morality is a personal choice. Ask any prochoice advocate.

[@mobilekillerass]

Not aborting is the more moral choice too, your point?

[@johnc.8298]

Hi mobile. You live in a country whose elected politicians in New York recently legislated the legality of abortion right up to the point of a human being severed from his/her umbilicus. How can you possibly expect such people to be concerned about snails, mice, and cows? The news showed supporters of this legislation gleefully applauding and rejoicing its signing into law.

[@Prancer1231]

@@johnc.8298 Is it ok if I murder someone in your family then? Don't impose your morals on me. And no, that isn't a threat. It's to demonstrate the absurdity of your argument.

[@johnc.8298]

RefusesCookies. I'm borrowing the phrase "Don't impose your morals[values] on me" from the feminist's and prochoice groups that frequently used that same phrase towards the anti-abortion groups. Interestingly no one in the media or other places ever questioned the validity of this phrase. Why has it taken so long for a voice (yours) to identify this phrase as the "absurdity" you claim it to be?. Very interesting indeed.

[@1ComplexAnalysis]

Some of the bigger vegan channels should shoutout this guy. He deserves way bigger audience.

[@mansamusa1743]

Iulian the ability to gain energy from meat does not imply evolutionary pressure to consume meat.Hippos can and do in some cases eat animals,and gain energy from it,they do not however actively seek out flesh unless under extraordinary pressures not in their natural habitat.It is by mere chance to my knowledge that Hippos can get energy from meat.This is highly fallacious as well,"I can use Algae based fuels in a Diesel engine,therefore the Diesel engine is a algae engine" perfectly exemplifies said fallacy.You have committed a non-sequitur.It *DOES NOT* follow that because you have the ability to do something evolutionary pressures MUST have led you to do in order to reproduce.

[@borseman4092]

Sotiris Krol metal gear?

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

I agree! More exposure will help win over the masses - one person at a time.

[@KK-lg8uz]

@@natalietannerblogger-theed9419 until you study a bit more and realise what he is saying is incorrect. Watch - barry groves: homo carnivorous what we are designed to eat - see if you can debunk it. Humans are not herbivores.

[@mikefa5891]

You missed one important fact - herbivores have 4 chamber stomachs to digest grass and plant foods, but not humans.

[@isauldron4337]

Therefore humans are omnivores

[@oscarcat1231]

Nonsense

[@nightblade4713]

No dude, only ruminant herbivores have 4 chamber stomachs, humans are non ruminant herbivores.

[@don-tay3963]

lies. there are herbivores with 1 stomach and some e multiple

[@sgmmk5]

​@@nightblade4713 No we aren't. All of the indigenous tribes that live around the world have eaten animal based diets or carnivore diets. We changed from apes and started eating meat and that's what made us humans. Our small intestine became longer and our colons got smaller to digest animal foods instead of plants, and our brains got bigger from eating meat too. There are 15 essential nutrients that are not bioavailable from plants (vitamin A,D,K), collagen, etc. Meat is way more nutrient dense than plant foods. Most plants in the wild are not edible to humans and we wouldn't be able to survive on plants at all.

[@lorenagarcia3189]

Humans are herbivores, yet the only plants we find edible are 1% of the total of plant life in this planet, most of this 1% also happen to be seasonal. Well done spock...logic at its finest

[@Spounge84]

" Humans are herbivores" There is no serious scientist who would agree with that statement.

[@demoskunk]

And most of the produce section does not occur in nature.

[@FreedomPhilosophyTV]

There was a shift in the climate millions of years ago that resulted in seasons and cooler periods which altered the availability of suitable vegetation. We have had to alter our behaviour and do many maladaptive things to survive that.

[@FreedomPhilosophyTV]

@@Spounge84 Opinions don’t count, the data is there along with the logic so the argument is sound.

[@effsharp7]

Animals only make up .47% of the total biomass of the earth though. So that 1% you mentioned is a lot more than you thought.

[@Ceeckoful]

The amount of times I have had to tell meat eaters that carnivores can eat a certain amount of vegetation and herbivores can eat a certain amount of meat, We seen big cats for example eat bits of vegetation and we know livestock are fed other dead animals sometimes and they don't die instantly they get diseases and then die which is why mad cow disease is linked with feeding other dead animals to cows. Great video once again, I wish the other youtubers would share your channel.

[@Ceeckoful]

Duestraw53 cool Despite the evidence proving otherwise try to use reason and evidence next time.

[@Ceeckoful]

Duestraw53 cool Poor non argument thus invalided, put up or shut up.

[@Ceeckoful]

Duestraw53 cool You are commenting on a video which proves humans are herbivores and you state no humans are omnivores with no proof, either prove it or don't waste my time.

[@Ceeckoful]

Duestraw53 cool Small minded thinking, you are clearly not aware livestock like Cows are often fed other dead animals correct? guess what ? they do not die straight away they get disease over time much like humans do from eating meat are cows now omnivore ? You also get cats and other carnivores that eat vegetation are they now omnivores ? no moron they are not, if you actually watch the video you would notice this is what it was addressing rather then coming on here just stating your own ignorance.

[@Ceeckoful]

Duestraw53 cool "Cats don't eat vegan food and other carnivores don't It's just meat or its artificial" Yes i've seen cats eat vegetation before google it, and yes there is vegan forms of cat food as well. "And the cows aren't fed dead animals They eat vegan stuff" Yes it's well known cows are some times fed other grounded up dead animals as a form of filler which tends to be cheap other then corn and soy etc google it.

[@PancakeInvaders]

Oh my god that meat picture was disgusting

[@skid6639]

i think i just went vegan o.o

[@MictheVegan]

Do it!

[@skid6639]

man, i poop alot now.

[@DDD033]

+Rick B did you really go vegan?

[@skid6639]

+DDD033 yes! i searched up alot of stuff about veganisme and i decided to give it a go.

[@Vegan_Kebab_In_My_Hand]

Good for you, just don't give up. The temptation for meat and diary will go away, it's just a stupid addiction (=

[@SickSkilz]

An omnivore is an animal that eats plant and animals for sustananence. Ergo, humans are omnivores. We don't have long, sharp canines because we are evolutionary superior (by virtue of intellece and dexterous hands) to animals that require them and sharp teeth ate more prone to break. By the same token, humans can't digest many grains but we have the intellect to cook them first.

[@science-y9209]

Yeah right.. you're right.. this is hard for most people to grasp.. Humans ate things especially meat .. out of necessity ... We can cook things and we are not herbivores. .. we are omnivores just cuz of the fact that our ancestors ate meat.. and plants.. But since we are intelligent. . We can thrive on a plant based diet.. Fat is important ,on the contrary to the popular belief of most vegans "they are not".. but they are.. But really loved what you have to say..

[@dombower]

Great work and love the images you put in.

[@AwkwardPasta004]

That wolf with the watermelon is fucking adorable!

[@thomasteal5609]

This guy is deceptive when he says apes(our closest relative)are herbivores. Chimpanzees are our closest relative and they are omnivores. We also have been eating massive amounts of meat for like 2 million years. We are Omnivores.

[@delontashieldssr]

That really doesn't make sense. Just because you've been eating meat for a long time. Then add it to your list of bad habits

[@demoskunk]

@@delontashieldssr The diet a species literally evolved on is not a "habit". Human's primary diet has always been meat.

[@FreedomPhilosophyTV]

Chimps are omnivores, but they are dentally adapted to eat flesh unlike us. Even so not all chimp bands consume flesh and when they do it’s about 9 days per year.

[@ayeoritset5049]

Chimps are actually herbivores just because they eat meat doesn’t mean they are omnivores. Majority of their diet is plants and they eat meat once in a while.

[@thomasteal5609]

@@ayeoritset5049 According to who? Chimps are universally accepted as Omnivores.

[@macheo6272]

pH 4-5??? What are you talking about???

[@vitord1]

My colleague just received her test to her stomach ph, it was 6!! And she has diabetes. Cholesterol and some other issues I wonder why

[@davidcarr1035]

The human stomach has a ph of about 1, not 4 as was suggested in the video

[@kj_H65f]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4519257/

[@theveganape]

Great video, brother! Well reasoned and presented, top marks all round!

[@JTPete123]

Fantastic video, thanks so much for making and sharing this!

[@Doglife1977]

"Pretending to be an omnivore is the leading cause of death." NAILED IT! Thank you Mike! Veganism needs you!

[@Spounge84]

He didn't nail shit.

[@misfit4ever01]

Yea that's why herbivores die so easily from alot of the same illness because it's really healthy lol

[@MayorBrownn]

Eddy Thoman you clearly haven’t seen any study’s 😂

[@cantu7614]

@@MayorBrownn I mean when you look at healthy meat eaters and healthy vegans Don't they come out the same?

[@MayorBrownn]

@cantu what

[@VeganRevolution]

You are like the youtuber that unnatural Vegan thinks she is Thanks for putting in the work to compile this so well ^__^ If Hitler was a vegetarian then why did the Nazis eat all the animals in Norway.... hmmm? #Logic

[@VeganRevolution]

Wait til the next top 10 ***** :)

[@tobiasbrown1882]

+VeganRevolution Unnatural Vegan provides excellent information on plant diets. Please stop targeting her as a menace. As if you don't have some serious faults.

[@VeganRevolution]

Nah I'm good thanks Tobias Brown fuck "plant diets" and if she is able to make a living of critiquing others who spread Veganism then I don't think she deserves any immunity - in fact she has it coming :)

[@tobiasbrown1882]

VeganRevolution Reap what you sow. You have 8.7% of her followers. You're a jealous, face-mask wearing creep who occasionally does something productive for veganism.

[@VeganRevolution]

Maybe if I did a video on why fruit makes you fat or taste test TVP I would get a bigger audience Tobias Brown

[@juliannaa1365]

Humans are naturally herbivores. We are behavioral omnivores.

[@Renfrye]

We are biologically omnivores veganbiologist.com/2016/01/04/humans-are-not-herbivores/

[@ashwinvk4124]

We evolved to be omnivores, We can't be behavioral omnivores I'd We weren't in the first place.

[@crazyoldvegan9035]

Awesome as always, Mic!

[@hyrumhansen6657]

Some interesting points were certainly made, however there was one issue in which you claimed that the pH of the human stomach was 4-5, in reality due to the presence of HCL as well as the enzymatic hydrolysis undergone by pepsinogen to produce pepsin, the pH ends up being closer to 2-3, which is more than suited for semi-carnivorous behavior. Just wanted to make sure the correct information was out there, but great points other than that!

[@oltzu5206]

Human stomach ph is 1,5-2

[@TommyHoare]

Holy hell your vids just keep getting better! Please never stop, Mic!

[@zezra38]

Mic, isn’t the human pH 1.5 to 3.5?

[@jaredschmidt8013]

Patrick Farmer shhh, he only likes talking about our teeth and nails.

[@abyayakumardash]

It is. That is the stomach's neutral state. I guess MIC was talking about the pH with food in it. It is 4 - 5 and can reach 6 when there's food in our stomach

[@KK-lg8uz]

@@abyayakumardash which means he would be wrong, like a lot of what he says.. He have a similar stomach pH to a vulture.

[@iulianbendrea9010]

When I'm watching your videos I have the feeling that my youtube runs them at 1.5x speed. But great stuff nonetheless!

[@نادرالیراحمان]

So that now means dolphins and orca whales are now herbivores? Boy man some science you preach.

[@mikewhit433]

"(Cat's) often eat plants" rofl I'm done.

[@miqq2961]

They do...

[@user-xq4py3fq2y]

@@miqq2961 don't forget the fact that they also throw it up

[@Chris-kr7gg]

They eat plants to induce being sick for whatever reason to clear their stomach etc

[@louwilson5597]

why do all vegans cherry pick their information. The reason why we don't immediately think "buffet" when we look at animals on the internet is because most of us are very civilized creatures. We are not out hunting or forging for food like we did when we were hunter gatherers. We have a disconnection and a very distorted perception of where our food comes from. That being said, if we were forced to live in nature again and face starvation on a regular basis, I think even gary yourofsky's mouth would salivate while his predator instincts kick in being face to face with a rabbit or dear.

[@sherocks54]

you slayed this lol I'm proud to be vegan

[@TallulahGuard]

Ikr??

[@hiphoptimistic5174]

It's a good feeling being veg :)

[@tyrinscott6893]

Vic O 😂😂😂 You toooooo wild

[@blueblaze2330]

But what about a balance of meat and veggies/fruits? ;-;

[@seanyoung477]

@@blueblaze2330 check out what the WHO recommend for nutrition 🤔 www.who.int/en/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/healthy-diet

[@5a1tY]

Citation needed for human stomach acid pH. Most sources I've found seem to say it's 1.5-3

[@Intuitionisfree]

Same. I love the video, but all sources I have food suggest that gastric acid's pH is between 1.5-3. Just want some clarification.

[@bumbee795]

www.alleganynutrition.com/supporting-pages/the-human-digestive-tract-ph-range-diagram/

[@AmandaLovesOldFords]

I had a hard time finding more information about that as well. I think the reference to stomach pH is when food is in the stomach, rather than the pH of just the stomach acid. For carnivores, they maintain a highly acidic (1-2) pH, while the stomach pH of omnivores/herbavores increases to 4-5.

[@KK-lg8uz]

yeah more vegan misinformation. We have a stomach pH of around 1.5 and humans are a carnivorous species. We have anthropological data going back millions of years proving this.

[@KK-lg8uz]

yeah more vegan misinformation. We have a stomach pH of around 1.5 and humans are a carnivorous species. We have anthropological data going back millions of years proving this.

[@hi5_centipedes874]

When I clicked on this video, a 5 minute commercial from Whole Foods about cheese pops up. Irony.

[@sidesalad7864]

Humans are omnivores, not herbivores. I've heard not one fact from you.

[@vitord1]

Stupid thing is that he mentioned only facts, facts should change opinions, opinions CANT change facts

[@randallfe]

This guy said meat is tasteless 😭😭😭 these are the same people who say we eat meat for pleasure

[@ItsMeScareCro]

84% of them go back to eating that "tasteless meat".

[@fuheroes]

Our closest relative the Chimp . Classed as an omnivore . Cats don't digest grass btw. They eat it in order to relieve a bad stomach , They vomit after eating it

[@lauraw.2038]

Hey Mic, first of all, I really like your channel, thanks for the great work! This video was very informative and I totally believe that a plant based whole foods diet is the healthiest for humans. But don't you think that your conclusion should be that we are omnivores that are better off eating like herbivores, instead of that we are indeed herbivores? Beeeecaaaauuuse the inuits? I saw your video on this topic and I do not doubt, that it is not very healthy to eat a meat based diet nor is it a justification to eat meat because they do, but they do survive on it right? And I believe their life expectancy isn't to bad, they don't die at age 30 or so. So it seems as if humans can live of meat and of plants, what makes them omnivores... Or am I wrong here? Would it theoretically be possible to take any herbivore and feed it meat and it would live an unhealthy but quite long life? Because then one could label humans herbivores as well.. Hope the last part makes sense haha.

[@AnqzOG]

In response to your last question, let's use a rabbit as an example. A few things to take note of. Physiological capabilities, time, lifestyle, metabolism, human versus rabbit anatomy. Rabbits don't have the physiological capabilities to obtain energy and nutrients from animal material. Theoretically, you could take the nutrients from animal material, put it in a powder form, and give it to the rabbit for easy absorption. But at that point it's not really "animal material." It's just nutrients taking from animal material. Rabbits only live to be about 8 or 12 years old and live extremely active lives. Humans nowadays eat more meat than ever, and are also less active than ever. The only way to truly give a rabbit health problems, is if you put it in a lab situation and find a special concoction to induce heart disease, in such a short timeframe, while keeping the rabbit in active as possible. It would basically require torture and the animal. So, it's a complex matter. The very act of staying alive by metabolizing materials is essentially killing you. Your cells can truly only divide so many times, so the issue is, food is actually killing you anyway. As with humans, it's not really often you die just because of your diet entirely alone. It often is that along with the many other complications like living in an active lifestyle, eating particularly on healthy types of meat, etc. And as with the inuit, good genetics help! Lastly, the human body and a rabbits body are extremely different. It's difficult to use statistics or information over one side, and use it as a means to draw conclusions over another. So in short, the answer is no. It's not the same thing. Humans with the ability to resist such issues were not being naturally selected for. Primarily because a lot of those issues only become detrimental past the age of producing offspring and having them grow up. Let alone the fact that you'd be comparing people up today to individuals who have existed over the past two or so million years. Nobody said that meat needs to be optimal for our health for us to be able to make use of it. It was a "dirty fuel" that provided food security for people over the ages. We can recognize that humans are omnivores, which we are, but don't have to keep making excuses for meat beyond what it was included into our diet for. Food security.

[@johnparadise3134]

A true omnivore/carnivore would be very attracted to-drawn to-salivating at the sight of-a piece of raw meat dripping with blood!-John Paradise

[@Snipergoat1]

A bloody rare piece of steak? You bet your ass I am. As a matter of fact I have to go to the grocery store later. I think I know what I'm having for dinner. A rare ribeye, a baked potato with sour cream, and some buttered peas. I'm actually drooling right now thinking of it.

[@KyanneSummer]

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[@Snipergoat1]

jerachin It was delicious.

[@KyanneSummer]

Joe Momma ..............I know how meat tastes mate..leave the potato and peas alone though, they are vegan dont even touch em just kiddin heheh anyway who cares what u eat really you are just obnoxious that's all,

[@Snipergoat1]

jerachin Well there is a bit of healthy perspective not often seen in the vegan community.

[@kevinmoynihan5118]

How can you claim this when many human traits evolved to be ideal for persistence hunting such as our ability to run long distances better than many animals, minimal hair, and the way we sweat.

[@pavlekovacevic5787]

Evolution is not real

[@kyartick8502]

So true. Humans are number 1 when it comes to endurance. Wolves and dogs are second. We need.the lung power to gather all the veggies in a day 😂

[@KK-lg8uz]

he talks nonsense. We have anthropological data going back millions of years proving humans are highly carnivorous. We really dont need any more evidence than that.. We also know all the plants people eat today are man-made and never existed in nature. Its pretty obvious what our natural diet is

[@vitord1]

What?? Humans used to run way more than us nowadays, they didnt have gyms, and humans are foragers so they needed to move in order to find their food, just like an RPG game, need omega 3 in all forms, lets swim and find some algae, need some protein, lets find some seeds nuts and grains, need some vitamins (specially vitamin c that we dont produce unlike omnivores) find some fruits! So yeah, humans have been fooled by some barbaric industries to make us believe that only meat has protein and calcium comes from calf intended bovine tities juice..

[@VeganLinked]

Isn't our pH closer to the more in between 1 and 2? Unless you're talking about during digestion.

[@williamwade2674]

watching this video i face palmed so hard that my hand literally went trough my skull, into my brain, and out the backside of my head.

[@PintagoGuitars]

But why?

[@williamwade2674]

@@PintagoGuitars idk dude it was 4 years ago lol

[@PintagoGuitars]

@@williamwade2674 I just watched the video like yesterday 😁

[@johnnyhanel]

great video man!

[@violatione]

Veganism is great! Constipation gone! Blood work, Fantastic! Body odor, nonexistent! Erections, at will and rock hard! Why would you want to live any other way?!!!!

[@flamingpaper7751]

...vegans are scientifically more likely to get urinary tract infections ans cancers.

[@violatione]

This is absolutely false. Please direct me to your scientific study.

[@violatione]

Actually veganism cures many low level mental imbalances. Have you seen the movie supersize me?

[@flamingpaper7751]

violatione You're basing your dietary choices on a movie that is just meant to show that fast food is unhealthy?

[@DLORD3000]

Zane, don´t waste your time on these "herbivores"

[@MLFreese]

I'm a meat eater, and from the personal research I've done on this topic, we humans seem to have gone from being possibly 100% herbivorous to mostly herbivorous omnivores who only recently started eating meat and other animal products, and therefore have not completely adapted to it.

[@MLFreese]

@@Soohable While I think many people eat too much meat, I also think people eat too many plant based carbs as well. Fat, sugar, and salt are the three magic ingredients that make food taste good, and both plant and animal food sources tend to contain too much of those to be considered healthy. At least in the US, where eating habits are so awful.

[@martis5210]

Fun Fact: humans started to eat meat 2.5 million years ago

[@TallulahGuard]

Fun fact: that was survival. Fun fact 2: our bodies never adapted to it...

[@TallulahGuard]

+auggiedoggy I'm so sorry

[@nothanksbigbrothergoogle5897]

+auggiedoggy on average. the average us vegan diet is far from prudent.

[@DEUnknownPLAY3R]

+LuluGrace7 fun fact 3, yes we did.

[@Cazanu417]

our bodies are more than adapted to it,given we get calories,protein and fat from meat.and herbivore will not get this from meat,its like us eating grass

[@nomorevetbills7171]

The great taxonomist Carolus Linnaeus, (1707-1778), a Swedish naturalist and botanist who established the modern scientific method of classifying plants and animals, classified humans not as carnivores, not as omnivores, nor even as herbivores, but as frugivores.

[@david522]

@Vellefrugivores are herbivores, if fruit is your preferred source that means you would rather eat a fruit rather than hunt- meaning you're an herbivore.

[@katboyce]

Hi Mic! FANTASTIC VIDEO! Do you mind if I make a blog entry using the majority of the data you used? I'll cite this video of course :) Keep up the amazing work!!

[@MictheVegan]

+Vegan Vibes No problem at all. I'm am mostly taking the research of others anyway. What's your blog?

[@katboyce]

Thank you so much! I have a lot of FB friends who enjoy reading blogs so this its an efficient way to promote veganism. My blog is called PainlessEats (tagline: Painless for you and them). painlesseats.wordpress.com/

[@MictheVegan]

+Vegan Vibes Awesome! I like it!

[@katboyce]

Aw, thank you very much-you're very kind! : )

[@joeyschmahl6597]

Mic. the Vegan you are using flawed studies!!

[@dreemwevur]

I'm not against us being herbivores but I still can't see how we were. What about heme iron, needed for our red blood cells, that's found only in meat? I think we may have been omnivores who ate more plants than meat.

[@thaik56]

Man, I just found your channel and you literally have every video I've been longing an answer for since becoming vegan!

[@MictheVegan]

+thaik56 Awesome! Always nice to see a new face.

[@vegansrising4473]

Great video. I enjoy that you're into it. Years ago when I ate meats I had the worst blood sugar problems, now, nothing.

[@dlg78]

Your comment makes no sense. Meat can't increase your blood sugar...obviously. it has no carbohydrates or sugar. Hence why you go into ketosis when you only eat meat.

[@singhgaurav1526]

@@dlg78 actually bro foods that are high in protein can also cause high blood sugar

[@dlg78]

@@singhgaurav1526 no. You'd have to be taking in excessive amounts, ie supplementing, and it still wouldn't be close to the effects of sugar, as protein is slow digesting.

[@singhgaurav1526]

@@dlg78 not just proteins but there are high level of amino acids found in red meat which causes high blood sugar I had the same problem .once I stopped eating meat ,I was much healthier and my blood sugar was also normal

[@dlg78]

@@singhgaurav1526 no it doesn't. There are no amino acids outside of what is found in the complete protein that have any effect on blood sugar, and it's all irrelevant anyway. You could be eating the same amount of protein from plant sources. Protein is protein.

[@sacmakiz]

Great video as always but the end though.... it's priceless 😂😂😂

[@paullond7721]

Do you eat grass? If the answer is no then you are not a herbivore.

[@GuacamoleKun]

Okay, great video but I have one question: as a kid, I loved to hunt small things. Bugs, frogs, fish, rodents, baby ducks, anything I was fast enough to catch, I would catch. I wouldn't eat it. But where does that urge to hunt come from if we're herbivores? I still like to chase animals. I stalk rabbits in my yard. edit: it sounds weird when I say it like that, but it's not like I'm out there just searching for rabbits to stalk. But when I'm gardening and I see one, I just like to have a little fun with it.

[@lyle2685]

+GuacamoleKun sure you need help :v

[@GuacamoleKun]

***** Considering I kept catching frogs for years, definitely the same kind of frogs and probably the same actual frogs... no, it wasn't curiosity. It was the fun of sneaking up and grabbing the frogs before they shot away into the pond. Seems like hunting to me.

[@GuacamoleKun]

***** Maybe you're right. But my cats don't always kill and eat the things they catch. Often they catch something and immediately lose interest. Because I feed them, they are not hungry. They just like to catch things.

[@GuacamoleKun]

***** I ate one of the first bugs that I caught. Popped it right in my mouth without thinking. I only remember because my dad freaked out, told me bugs might be poisonous. Maybe that's why I never ate another one. (Until my friends and I started daring each other, which really isn't the same, I know.)

[@GuacamoleKun]

***** Yes, and it's human instinct, isn't it? To figure out what is food.

[@metrichalo5849]

another well made informative video. well done. we need to share this channel to everyone else

[@QuinSkew]

+Jake Eames Ⓥ Look up omnivore.

[@QuinSkew]

bandwidthzero Wow you're trying an ad hom.

[@QuinSkew]

bandwidthzero I'm not gonna go after an idiot who can't understand biology.

[@QuinSkew]

bandwidthzero Appeal to nature fallacies? Lol yet again you're just being a fool. Come back when you've come to grasp biology.

[@QuinSkew]

bandwidthzero Woah no ned to get angry at facts.

[@1imesub]

All fat and sick people have one thing in common: they believe humans are omnivores.

[@martindaskalov3140]

+1imesub My BMI is 22.2 and i eat meat almost every day -_-

[@1imesub]

Martin Daskalov You mean corpses?

[@martindaskalov3140]

1imesub And?

[@1imesub]

Martin Daskalov Are you dumb?

[@martindaskalov3140]

1imesub How come you focus only on animals like cows, pigs and chickens. And never focus on the amount of vermin that were killed by traps, ammunition and poisoning by your organic farmers to preserve your seeds and veggies? I dont see how that makes you more ethical than us?

[@MrApplewine]

00:56 Cats don't eat grass for food though. They eat it so they can vomit to clear out their stomach of fur and other undigested things, which the grass is also indigestible. Carnivores like humans and cats can't digest cellulose. We would die if we could only eat grass, but a herbivore like a horse or a cow could get fat on a diet of grass.

[@rocky_mochiii]

MrApplewine I thought that to my cat only eats grass when sick or for fur balls to throw up and make me clean it 😂😂

[@flamingpaper7751]

If humans were meant to be herbivores (or frugivores), omnivorous humans would have died out due to natural selection (Not immediately, I know that), but omnivorous humans can live long, healthy lives, too. Diet isn't the only thing that helps people live longer, exercise is also an extremely important key to living long and healthy. Can NO omnivorous human be healthy?

[@bonchidude]

No "omnivore" diets are not nearly as healthy and not natural. Research anatomy and such.

[@MayorBrownn]

Why do you think 1/3 humans die of cardiovascular diseases 😂 is that a normal part of life?

[@Spounge84]

@@MayorBrownn Yes, it is actually.

[@MayorBrownn]

Spounge84 seems like its time to change that then.

[@Spounge84]

@@MayorBrownn Fine, you're free to make that choice yourself. Just don't spread around bullshit about humans being herbivores or that humans "weren't meant" to eat meat.

[@joaodecarvalho7012]

Fair arguments, but in evolutionary anthropology many theories revolve around our hunting past. Gorillas eat plants, chimpanzees eat meat every now and then, and it is believed that sometime between the Australopithecus and us, we became large game hunters. Bones of several ungulates are found in the camps of our ancestors, and we are believed to be good long-distance runners because we lost or body hair to manage our temperature as we pursue our prey until it overheats and gets exhausted. Various tools, including spear throwers, are also found with human fossils, and cave paintings depict hunting. I think the evolutionary evidence that we are hunter-gatherers is very clear.

[@smoothcriminal5650]

Nu-uh. The *only* way we can eat meat is buy cooking it. Does any other omnivore or carnivore cook their food? Also, let's have a look at some present-day hunter-gatherer tribes, for example the Hadza of the Serengeti. They are skilled hunters. They spend all their childhoods and youth learning about wild animals, their behavior, tracking them and learning to use weapons. They use formidable weapons like throwing spears and bows and arrows - something that no gazelle can outrun. And yet, in more than half of their hunts, they return home empty-handed. Over *70%* of their diet is plant based. If modern humans, with their big brains and formidable weapons, have such dismal success as hunters, how do you think our evolutionary ancestors, such as the Homo Erectus, which lived 1-2M years ago, fared? Some theories state that we don't have much body hair because we once had an aquatic stage. Other primates can't swim at all & ALMOST ALWAYS drown if they fall in a deep/fast body of water. Wolves are also long distance runners - they have a lot of fur. Not to mention, the creatures back then would have been much bigger & deadlier, such as woolly mammoths & sabre-toothed cats.

[@gao1812]

The thing is plant matter is not preserved as well as bones and utensils, so I don't think we'll ever know just how much we relied on plants and animals and exactly were our staple foods

[@subscribetogavitronicks5919]

@Ilda Veseli well I feel like that has to do a lot with us being evolved from a sub-class of herbivores called fruitarians like lots of other simians.

[@tintinftww]

As much as 90% of plant matter make up a black bear's diet and yet nobody would deny that they are omnivorous.

[@Dt-il3bc]

interesting how briefly you flashed up the image of the human digestive system compared to a rabbits and how their similarity proves we are meant to be herbivores... if you pause the video at that point and look at how small the human cecum is compared to a rabbits you can see that there is a really dramatic difference as far as the cecum is concerned. Can any of you ultra smart vegans tell me what function the cecum plays in digestion for herbivores? Also, since you seem to be experts in herbivore digestion it would be great if you could teach me about coprophagia which is another thing I've learnt about rabbits (and gorillas) when it comes to how they are able to eat just plants and get enough nutrients.

[@andreworam2844]

Not to mention that rabbits are hind gut fermenters. Humans do not have fermentation vats.

[@despajackie9254]

he said it was "comically short" meaning that the image was inaccurate.

[@Baker_Manya]

Could anyone help me find the link to any study showing that human PH is 4-5? Everywhere else they write it is 1.5-3.5

[@ossifrage6828]

He is a liar all studies that have been done have shown that humans have an average of 1.5 and can be as low as 1 and anything higher than 2 causes stomach cancer I can sight the studies if you want

[@Greyfield95]

When meat eaters don't watch the video in which he references every scientific fact that makes us herbivores, they just pause the video and rage at the title of the video.

[@therealwinston3634]

meat-eater here, and I didn't

[@oats8854]

The human digestive tract bears NO resemblance to that of herbivores. In fact, it should be very obvious how very similar the human and carnivore digestive systems are. Here’s counting the ways... Dogs and humans have canine teeth. Dogs and humans eat a meal, and then may not eat again for a few hours, or days. (Herbivores graze all day long, nearly every waking moment looking for forage.) They use an up and down chewing motion of the jaws Length, digestive enzymes and function of the stomach are nearly identical in human and carnivore digestive systems. (No digestion occurs in the rabbit's stomach; in a cow, digestion does not occur until stomach number 4.) Small intestine, appendix (cecum) and colon have identical functions in human and carnivore digestive systems, though there are a couple physical differences. Humans don't have a cecum, per se. Instead, the beginning of the large intestine is called the 'cecum.' It is nothing more than a segment of the colon. The appendix which has no known use, is attached to the large intestine at the junction of small and large intestines. Dogs have no appendix, but at the spot where the small intestine joins the large intestine, dogs have a small, S-shaped appendage named the cecum which serves the dog about like the human appendix does humans - its use is minor or undetermined. Neither carnivores or humans have digestive systems that break down or utilize the cellulose in plant cell walls. (Herbivores use an army of bacteria and an extended transit time to break down cellulose to a usable form.) Human and carnivore digestive systems are designed for and equipped to eat meat. Both humans and carnivores eat and break down animal proteins, lipids and vitamins directly from animal sources. (Herbivores by definition do not eat animals, but they still need 'animal protein,' and they obtain it from the many pounds of bacteria which they continually digest.) Human Digestive Tract Sketch Human digestion does not break down plant materials efficiently. Humans CAN extract and utilize the carbohydrates in plants (not cellulose), which is where humans and pure carnivores differ: Dogs cannot break down carbohydrates at all. But human saliva contains amylase, which can digest carbohydrates (but not cellulose, which is too complex for amylase). This is why humans are categorized as omnivores, while also having a carnivore digestive system.

[@bonchidude]

assoholic, because you say so it must be so. You have no qualifications in this area. Dr Mills knows what he is talking about, but you clearly do not. watch the vid and learn.

[@bonchidude]

Alex, frigivores are a subset of herbivores.

[@bonchidude]

alex you have clearly shown that just because you say that someone is wrong does not make it so. Shill much alex? He is not a doctor but has done EXTENSIVE research and is an athlete. Again, chimps may eat the occasional insect but 98% of their diet is plant based. That does not make an omnivore just because once in a while they eat insects and such. There is much proof about human anatomy that they are herbivores. Yes, I know you are allergic to facts but get over it. Facts are facts.

[@raonirao]

Hey Mic, love your videos! I got curious about the data on mortality in Norway during Nazi occupation: couldn’t people just be dying of other nazi related causes? I know it is deaths/10k population, but what if people are just dying of starvation before something else? Or simply dying on the battlefiels? Where does the chart come from? Is your conclusion sound? Cheers! :)

[@thatonepolishguy3773]

Of course they died of different causes. Starvation, freezing, repressions, executions itd. Also food shortage influenced their diet. I am certain that anybody during that time would pay a lot for some meat.

[@VeganV5912]

@@thatonepolishguy3773 Burning down the forest over a 5 minute burger etc, methene 🐄💨💩🍖🦠😒 55% 🥵🤯. That’s why I’m vegan ✅❤️💪😬🦷😉. Behavioural ‘Omnivores’, is a heart attack and cancer and high bIood pressure, fat deposits cIog the arteries everywhere, Li👇imp🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴Di🤭ick eating Cooorpses 🛏💔🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXyap3mImKdros0 .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp67qqF6gdCVjrs . Over a 5 minute burger or chicken or eggs etc. CuIt🔴foIIowing !!!! Meat🦠fIake !! Caveman !!!🙄. Put the knife down Pssychooo 🧟‍♂️🔪🦠🍳🍗🍖..🔴... ZombieCaaannibaI !!!! .. Time-Iapse pig carcasses. 5-10 days in your stomach puutrefying 🤮. Deodorant mask the symptoms but you still smell bad in your feet and shoes and socks 🔴🍖🦠🧟‍♂️🥾🦶🧦, 🧟‍♂️💩🚽🤮🤮🤮. No Fibre. PH 4, hard arteries.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKe2i4ejjLepjrs .. Vegans they don’t smell, because lots of fibre if you eat plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers and lentiIs beans and potatoes etc. Lots of fibre !! PH 7-10. Smooth arteries. ToiIet ✅❤️💩🚽😉 neutral. And you get bigger and stronger and fitter when you go plant based. No fat deposits because fat deposits is animals and cheese and fish etc. Herbivores like gorillas and bonobos and Orangutans, no plaque because plaque is eating corpses 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴...

[@flamingpaper7751]

Who the hell cuddles a cow? Do you know what cows are capable of doing? My grandfather's friend died from a cow in a slow, painful death.

[@oothoudtoutdoors279]

I know you will probably never see this comment but I was just wondering. Do you think it could be possible that within the human population that some groups of people may have adapted to eating more meat in their diet, lets just say a 50% plant and 50% meat diet for the sake of the argument. could they have slowly adapted to maintain that diet thus not having the same problems as either of the other two groups those being herbivores and carnivores. Much like a dog that is what we call a "mutt" they do not suffer from or are far less likely to suffer from the medical conditions that their purebred counterparts suffer from. Thank you. P.S. Thanks for supporting your statements with fact and statistics. I may eat meat put I still appreciate the effort you put in to citing and properly quoting your sources.

[@Advcrazy]

I'm not 100% vegetarian yet but you're wearing me down. Some solid pro herbivore arguments there.

[@dawn8542]

Do you mean vegan? Vegetarians still eat eggs and milk. They still contribute to animal suffering because all male calves and chicks are killed immediately after birth.

[@KickingGeese]

Theres too many vegans coming out and thriving on youtube. its making meat eaters nervous! Also I never understood why we need to cook our meat. this used to puzzle me even when I was a meat eater.Natural meat eaters can eat pounds of it raw!

[@loh.22]

Bacteria. All animal products contain measurable amounts of fda approved fecal matter. If you want to eat raw chicken go ahead. But be prepared for a trip to the hospital.

[@mindmonkey00]

Is it possible to survive in a wild environment without depending on any meat? I seriously wonder since only eating raw fruits and vegetables without plant food rich in carbs and protein like rice, bread or beans makes it seem like it would be very difficult to sustain yourself since the average human being needs about 2000 calories to live healthy. I think we became omnivores to allow ourselves more flexibility depending in the environment we're set in. For example an environment set in Africa is very difficult to survive on a PB It's such a dry and hot landscape to the point where there isn't enough plants that can grow there where you could easily survive by only depending on those plants. I think primates are mainly live off of plant based diets but we evolved more omnivorous traits which makes us incredibly resilient and able to survive and thrive in almost every environment. I believe that's part of the reason why there are so many of us today and why we're as widespread as we are.

[@Blueberryminty]

+KickingGeese when I still ate meat, I loved it raw without any seasoning and spices.. I never really liked it cooked. So... not really a great argument for veganism in my opinion :). nevertheless I'm vegetarian since age 13 and became vegan 6 years ago (after finally really looking into it all) besides that. People can be learned to like all kinds of tastes. but glutamate always helps a lot :) it's something to be found in meat and shell fish and tomatoes. it's probably why baby's can seem to be great carnivores as a lot of baby's and kids seem to love the taste of meat (just as I loved it - when it was raw). But still I'm not convinced this makes us omnivore. I guess we were more like scavengers, only eating some death animal when we came across a fresh abandoned one as the glutamate in it and some other aromas we can smell made it attractive, and we probably only started to eat more meat when we already had the brain power to think about ways to catch and kill animals, while we physically aren't really capable. And still we wouldn't have been able to eat much meat as even with tools we weren't very efficient. we only became very efficient and able to provide a daily amount of meat for every person when we perfected our farming methods. so... the most popular version of the paleo diet would actually have to be called the modern agricultural diet to be precise...

[@MikeyG_f-of-x]

Because cooked meat can be saved for much longer than raw meat. You never know how long it might take to bring down another mammoth.

[@ljeonjko]

+KickingGeese the same reason vegetables are cooked.

[@user-ew1kw5kj7z]

longest living country on Earth: Hong Kong. What do they eat? On average one pound of meat per person. data pool of 7 million people. without cholesterol your hormones will become destroyed. Cholesterol is a precursor to your hormones as a human being. Most studies you cite on humans being sick on animal-based diets are not actually meat eaters, but junk food eaters. Hot dogs, burgers, etc. from junk food restaurants are drowned in vegetable oils. Study people who eat pure meat instead. Vegetable oils are the leading cause of heart attacks due to how easily oxidized they are. Most fruits and vegetables are man made today. There is no such thing as lettuce or broccoli in nature. If you ate a wild carrot you would die. One of the countries with the worst life expectancy is India: vegetarians/vegans have horrible life expectancy especially when they have been vegetarian from childhood. Isotopic testing shows we ate pounds and pounds of meat most likely raw during our lifetime as a species. Meat is how we survived the ice age. We have a stomach acid of pH = 1-2. Herbivorous animals have a way less acidic stomach. We have a similar digestive system to that of a wolf. We did not develop claws and fangs because of evolution. We were primarily herbivores but due to changes in the environment we ADAPTED to eating and surviving off meat. We do not possess the ability to turn fiber into fat like gorillas do through the pyruvate cycle. And NO ANIMAL ON EARTH EATS ONLY PLANTS. they also eat insects like ants. No animal on Earth can live without eating other animals including insects. We can only get fat which is essential for our hormones as a HUMAN. This is why babies need only milk from the mother. They need the saturated fat (breast milk is around 50% saturated fat) to grow into a human being. Without saturated fat they would grow up with severe health issues... We are carnivores. We cannot digest vegetables. This is why all the vegetables in the store are man-made versions. You need meat to thrive. You kill more animals, an entire ecosystem by spraying pesticides, insecticides and rodenticides in vegetable farming. True carnivores eat two cows a year if they eat the entire cow. Stop acting morally superior and wake up. Get your emotions out of this for a day and start taking care of the most important animal; your own species. Human Beings. Stop caring for an animal who would kill and eat you if they had the chance and rejoin the natural cycle of life. Stop listening to vegans whos brains are degenerating because their brains (made up of 70% saturated fat) are not getting the fat fuel they need to function. Mental illness is from poor nourishment. Search how the carnivore diet study done by Harvard reversed a lot of "incurable" illnesses such as autoimmune disorders and other health issues. If you are vegan purely for health purposes, I suggest reevaluating your research and choices. Make sure its not by organizations with an agenda. If you are doing it for ethical reasons, think about all the rodents, insect and entire ecosystems your destroying.

[@kingflashdj]

"We are carnivores. We cannot digest vegetables. This is why all the vegetables in the store are man-made versions. You need meat to thrive. You kill more animals, an entire ecosystem by spraying pesticides, insecticides and rodenticides in vegetable farming. True carnivores eat two cows a year if they eat the entire cow. " False. We are omnivore and we can digest vegetables. Not all vegetables are "man-made" versions and not everyone get their vegetables from the store.

[@elizmill96]

MIKE! I tried to use your points to argue that humans are herbivores and I got stuck in a sticky situation. I said that we don't have fat receptors on our tongue like other omnivores and carnivores and the person said that we do have fat receptors and that's where the umami flavor comes from, rather than the taste being salt. Please help!

[@HYDROCARBON_XD]

Bruh,omnivores varies from anatomy,hamsters and bears are very different but both are omnivores,they have no similar anatomic characteristics except for their molars teeth that are similar,also pigs are very similar to us in digestive system

[@jayb8056]

Hey Mike! Love your content - please keep it up! You rightly point out that b12 is only produced by bacterias and yeasts. But I just don't like the idea of people thinking they have to go to some mystical untreated river when they can simply ferment or buy fermented foods. Namely, as I'm sure you know but just forgot to mention, kombucha, kefir, sauerkraut and kimchi. These are just a few foods and are all available at most health food stores and I'm from South Africa. So anyone in a 1st world country should be covered ;). Just thought I'd point out how easy it really is to get all the essential micronutrients you need through fermented foods. Plus you colonize your gut with the bacteria we should be getting on the skins of our fruit and veg. Sadly all of those wonderful critters get killed by pesticides etc. Our gut governs a large share of our immune system and recent research shows the gut micro-biome may have a bigger role in our health than we've ever thought. - Jason

[@mihailpenev6658]

In a lot of medicine books is written that the pH of the stomach of the humans is between 1-3. Why do you say, that it's 4-5

[@camtyto0777]

the pissed off non-vegans in the comments are hilarious... like i can't argue that we didn't evolve to *be able to* eat meat, but that doesn't change the fact that it's totally unnecessary for us to consume it? at certain points humans probably ate meat out of necessity if a varied herbivore diet wasn't available but... in our society we very much have the option of choosing to eat or not to eat certain foods lol

[@crakapakin]

"able to eat meat".... No.We are obligate omnivores. B12 is a vital nutrient not available in a plant based diet. Herbivores are able to obtain B12 by way of fermentation of plant matter which is then either regurgitated or excreted from the anus to be chewed and swallowed for digestion. Just wanted to clarify that.

[@camtyto0777]

crakapakin pretty sure ppl can get b12 from dirt and stuff, like u only need a relatively small amt so probably no one got that deficiency back when things weren't obsessively washed and sanitized... but tbh even if that's not true, "u might get a deficiency if u don't take a supplement" is not a good argument against veganism in general

[@camtyto0777]

crakapakin then again, why am i wasting a moment of my time replying to downtown with a "people eating tasty animals" icon

[@Calm-JD]

animals get b12 from their food so if your eating animals your already supplementing b12, your filtering it through a dead body, id rather just take a cleaner supplement directly.

[@crakapakin]

No, Jordan. Animals do not get their B12 from their food. If that were the case, humans could as well. But we can not because we are not herbivores. We require B12 from our diet alone whereas herbivores obtain B12 from their digestive function, which is not even comparable to human digestion. They are able to obtain B12 by way of fermentation. During fermentation, microbes synthesize and release B12. The plant material, containing B12 and many other nutrients, is either regurgitated or excreted from the anus to be chewed and swallowed for digestion. Ruminants such as cows, goats and some macropods (kangaroo and wallaby) regurgitate and chew cud. Hindgut fermenters, such as rabbits eat the cecotropes excreted from their anus.

[@shayfay00]

This doesn't help the vegan argument. The first humans were hunter gatherers (khoisan). In some tribes if a man couldn't successfully hunt he wouldn't be allowed to marry or no man would give his daughter away to marry him. Some amazonian tribes use bird feathers as decoration on their heads. Presently some people still eat organ meat (liver and onions, chitlins, foie gras, sweetbread, haggis, menudo).

[@SteveSmekar-ll6ln]

You are mistaken, frugivore is closer to the truth. We originated in the tropical climates where fruit was easily accessible and started to (read CHOSE to) eat vegetables and meat as the surroundings became cooler.

[@seekss3624]

Suuuure.. Africa is is a troopical enviiiiiiiroment....

[@seamonster936]

Steve Smekar Please list for me the fruit our ancestors ate on the plains of East Africa?

[@SteveSmekar-ll6ln]

Callie hi callie your probably going on the basis/assumption that there were mo fruit to be had there, or very little. But alll around the equator, a few degrees above and below, tropical fruit abounds. Seems like those folks would've gotten a wild idea like... " why don't we keep walking until we find some fruit" or were FORCED into killing an animal. Do you suppose?

[@seamonster936]

Yes, not in Africa, most fruits and vegetables we eat today originated from the tropics of South Asia or the Americas.

[@ZeonGenesis]

I read our gastric acid is 1.5 to 3.5 though, or that it can vary anywhere between 1-5

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

Our carnivoros traits Humans have many small fat cells like all carnivores. ‘Pond and Mattacks compared the structure of fat cells in various types of animals. Carnivores were found to have a higher number of smaller fat cells and omnivores a smaller number of larger fat cells. Humans were found to be at the top of the carnivorous pattern. Pond and Mattacks conclude: “These figures suggest that the energy metabolism of humans is adapted to a diet in which lipids and proteins rather than carbohydrates, make a major contribution to the energy supply.”’ Humans have the stomach acidity of a unique carnivore. ‘Humans had a high level of acidity of 1.5 that lies between that of obligate and facultative scavengers. Producing acidity, and retaining the stomach walls to contain that acidity, is energetically expensive, so would presumably only evolve if the level of pathogens in the human diet was high.’ Note that herbivoros primates have a stomach pH varying from around 4 to 6 [17]. Most omnivores are between 2 and 4 [17]. As previously noted, humans have a reduced energy extraction capacity from plants. ‘Our large intestine, where fiber is processed to energy, is 77% smaller by volume than that of a chimpanzee our size … The size and our small intestine, where -macronutrients are absorbed is 62% larger than that of a chimpanzee our size … the gut morphology adaptations both improved animal food exploitation and at the same time hindered the full exploitation of fibrous plant foods’ Humans substituted primate climbing capabilities for an adaptation to throwing. ‘Roach et al claim that the structure of our shoulder represents an adaptation to carnivory. They describe how our shoulder is perfectly adapted to throwing, which must be useful, in their opinion, mainly in hunting and protection from predators. They show that in contrast, the chimpanzee’s shoulder is adapted to climbing trees.’ Humans have much higher fat reserves than chimps, our closest relatives [3]. Carrying a high amount of fat costs energy and reduces the speed of chasing or fleeting, but gives us the ability to go periods without food while we hunt and scavenge. Apes are constantly eating and surrounded by plants, and don’t need this function. If we were constantly eating plants, we wouldn’t have adapted this way. Human jaws and teeth shrank, forfeiting chewing capabilities. We know early humans crafted tools to help process meat, even before fire. It takes 39% to 46% less force to chew and swallow processed meat than processed root foods [11]. Evolution chose to forgo the ability to properly chew certain plant-based foods to allow for more room in the skull [11]. The ability to use tools also explains why we don’t have carnivorous fangs - we didn’t have to tear raw flesh from a carcass with our bare teeth.

[@pietrofavaretto4771]

@@stefdiazdiaz7067 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGWxpICfhLKgebs Or you can copy paste Wikipedia

[@bumbee795]

@@stefdiazdiaz7067 www.imsmessenger.org/january-2017/health-matters-humans-carnivores-herbivores-omnivores-side-side-comparison/

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

@@bumbee795 "Carnivores have powerful jaws to bite and hold prey. Their front teeth (incisors) are short, pointed, and prong-like for grasping and shredding meat. Their teeth are widely spaced to avoid trapping stringy debris. They have long, sharp, pointed canine teeth, with the ability to stab, tear into meat, and to kill their prey. Carnivores eat their food whole, so there no need for chewing. Therefore, they have very few molars, and the ones they have are triangular with jagged edges to shear meat. The jaw moves up and down to quickly bite and swallow." lol, since we use tools we dont need that, all human babys survive with a 0 plant diet...

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

@@bumbee795 Uric acid is an antioxidant!

[@TresIndie]

Thank you for the hard work you put into researching for your videos and delivering the message so eloquently. Your channel is my go to answer when any "omni" asks me for a good, impartial source on veganism. Keep on doing a great work!

[@NightShinerStudio]

Carnivores - Organism that feed exclusively on/mainly on meat Herbivores - Organism that feed exclusively on/mainly on plants Omnivores - Organism that can eat and digest both properly

[@anarchy7741]

yup..Humans are herbivores

[@NightShinerStudio]

@@anarchy7741 no, we're omnivores and you can't change that fact.

[@anarchy7741]

@@NightShinerStudio WHY?.What meat eating traits do humans have?

[@NightShinerStudio]

@@anarchy7741 www.biologyonline.com/articles/humans-omnivores Before you say anything about our canine teeth not being sharp, we stopped needing sharper teeth when we started to cook as it softened the food

[@NightShinerStudio]

@@anarchy7741 humans are naturally and biologically omnivores, however, you don't NEED meat to survive as you can get proteins and other essentials from plants and eggs, but we do need it to feed a population of about 7 billion

[@barzinio92]

Did the nazis take only the livestock away from the norwegians? Or did they deprive them from other foods as well? Such as sugar, jam, flour and so on. We have to know exacltly what happened to draw reliable conclusions.

[@papparocket]

The Nazis took just about anything of "worth". That was mostly animals and refined foods. I read an article on this a while back that is now lost in the dark recesses of my browser history ( am sure that the NSA could help me find it). So the Norwegians were left with mostly with unprocessed whole grains and tubers to replace the meat. They continued to feed themselves with home gardens as well.

[@Phantom5Reality]

Thank you for this well documented video. It has inspired me to eat a plant-based diet for all the many reasons (moral, nutritional, environmental, etc.) Keep up the great videos and good work!

[@veronicachic]

duuuuude you're the only vegan channel I watch anymore. No one compares to this level of quality and topic ideas. Everyone else just....they don't do it anymore. You're great!

[@MictheVegan]

Thanks for the kind words! If I ever lose your interest its your job to tell me.

[@safardebon9720]

+sailor gang or die And of course Greger- would you say

[@scamdem1c]

your standards must be so pathetically low

[@pphils14]

What do you say to Michael Pollan who says we essentially became human and our brains became larger from figuring out how to make fire and cook meat with it? Just saw it on his Netflix documentary called Cooked and was just curious to see if you agree/diagree?

[@lanabananasoup]

wish I could have shown this to a guy who was practically foaming at the mouth trying to tell me that we are like lions and that I am going against nature by being vegan haha

[@Spounge84]

Crazy thing, both you're friend _and_ you are wrong about this. The science is absolutely clear that humans are omnivores.

[@coldplayislife9788]

Correction: the pH of our stomachs is 2, not 4-5.

[@DonutsIceCreamAndCottenCandy]

yes, i guess he meant to say digestive system

[@FrederikvanThurgau]

I cant tell if you're just ignoring how bad your arguments are or just completley delusional. Like, you literally called salt a plant and denied the existence of one of the 5 flavors.

[@AngelinaAlexMusic]

GREAT VIDEO

[@JaneDoe-zq8pb]

We ARE herbivores but we can digest (ish) animal products! Thank you, Mic!

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

ish - lol

[@FreedomPhilosophyTV]

All mammals can digest animal protein to some extent. Cattle eat their own placenta.

[@FalconfromRF]

​@@FreedomPhilosophyTV veganism is unnatural as even creatures, which are more herbivorous, than humans, eat meat

[@novasky6240]

I remember when I was like 8 and we got taught that humans are omnivores and need meat to be healthy and this was basically my first realisation that us being omnivores is a load of bollocks because I've been raised as a vegetarian my whole life and was literally no less healthy than all of the other kids in my school (Except the ones who played sports regularly. I'm not a sporty person unless that sport is rock climbing or basketball). That was basically the day I lost my faith in the educational system because I realised that it spreads lies when it comes to this topic.

[@alfred493]

You just contradicted yourself. You need meat to build strength/muscle mass and stamina. Plants alone do not supply enough calories to do that.

[@plsfckoff]

Seni Joshua They do

[@novasky6240]

Seni Joshua Tell that to vegan body builders and athletes lmao

[@crakapakin]

"I've been raised as a vegetarian my whole life and was literally no less healthy than all of the other kids in my school"..................................................................... That is because the adverse health effects of B12 deficiency take years to culminate. You'd better start taking B12 if you aren't already if you wish to avoid sever mental problems later on in life.

[@thickboy1737]

@@novasky6240 they use steroids, and so many freaking supplements. Not only that, but the volume of food they consume is ridiculous.

[@HYDROCARBON_XD]

Wait,omnivores need big canines? Where are the “Big canines” of rats and squirrels?

[@VeganV5912]

Burning down the forest over a 5 minute burger etc, methene 🐄💨💩🍖🦠😒 55% 🥵🤯. That’s why I’m vegan ✅❤️💪😬🦷😉. Behavioural ‘Omnivores’, is a heart attack and cancer and high bIood pressure, fat deposits cIog the arteries everywhere, Li👇imp🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴Di🤭ick eating Cooorpses 🛏💔🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXyap3mImKdros0 .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp67qqF6gdCVjrs . Over a 5 minute burger or chicken or eggs etc. CuIt🔴foIIowing !!!! Meat🦠fIake !! Caveman !!!🙄. Put the knife down Pssychooo 🧟‍♂️🔪🦠🍳🍗🍖..🔴... ZombieCaaannibaI !!!! .. Time-Iapse pig carcasses. 5-10 days in your stomach puutrefying 🤮. Deodorant mask the symptoms but you still smell bad in your feet and shoes and socks 🔴🍖🦠🧟‍♂️🥾🦶🧦, 🧟‍♂️💩🚽🤮🤮🤮. No Fibre. PH 4, hard arteries.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKe2i4ejjLepjrs .. Vegans they don’t smell, because lots of fibre if you eat plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers and lentiIs beans and potatoes etc. Lots of fibre !! PH 7-10. Smooth arteries. ToiIet ✅❤️💩🚽😉 neutral. And you get bigger and stronger and fitter when you go plant based. No fat deposits because fat deposits is animals and cheese and fish etc. Herbivores like gorillas and bonobos and Orangutans, no plaque because plaque is eating corpses 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴...

[@bonchidude]

Movies for 2019: Vegan Tsunami coming to a theater near you!

[@TheBerkeleyBeauty]

I feel like I'm cheating off of your test paper. Thanks for allowing me to see your answers.

[@lisanloves]

Now I can link this video whenever people say that we are omnivores. You will get lots of views ;)

[@MictheVegan]

Thanks Li-San! My only fear is that people who don't already agree will only have patience for the first 30 seconds. We will see.

[@cj2108]

+Mic. the Vegan yes, sad but true...people are very defensive of their eating habits. They just do not want to know. Also, for example, drug addicts know the drugs will kill them prematurely in horrible death, but when taking the drug they feel out of this world. and they "need" it. "Omnivorous" diet is like a very bad drug addiction IMO.

[@QuinSkew]

+Angela J Try some grass. Oh and look up the definition of omnivore.

[@msflyingfree7]

+Mic. the Vegan Two of my fav Vegan Utubers right here =) How about a collab.. there aren't enough of them.. and they're fun for us viewers =) and a fun and great way for raising awareness. The idea I've suggested Li-San is going more in-depth about the crazy things people are saying in regards to the W.H.O report like 'everything causes cancer' - 'Walking out our front door can be the death of us' and so on, to justify their continued bacon/meat consumption after being told it causes cancer. As well as comparing the tobacco industry to the meat/dairy/egg industries on all sides (the smokers and the evil industries) the suing etc. Just some Great Ol' Debunking a la Mic with some humor/satire and great contrasting/devils advocate.. enveloped in sweet ol' science and common sense. Maybe a 3 part series or something (•◡•).. like 'stay tuned to see what comes out of Lola's mouth next week'. These are exciting times we live in concerning veganism!

[@QuinSkew]

+Angela J Sorry but you must knoe that humans are biological omnivores. we eat only twenty percent meat. Eighty percent plants. I like tastes of foods but it does not mean I like the grease that's a part of certain foods.

[@infini_ryu9461]

"Muh fangs and claws" Tell that to the Blue Whale who is a strict carnivore.

[@iicii77]

You shattered his argument lmao

[@infini_ryu9461]

@@iicii77 Vegans talk a big game about how they care about animals but know very little about them. When they hear "Carnivore" their knowledge ends at the big cats. It never occurred to them that whales and hagfish are Carnivores or that Venus Fly Traps aren't just Carnivorous Plants in name. Dude "researches" by Google searching studies that agree with him and doesn't know enough to critique them. How he can think to profess to millions of people is beyond me.

[@infini_ryu9461]

@Vinícius JR It never occurred to him that we don't have large fangs because we don't use our teeth to choke animals to death or tear flesh from bone. We have hands and tools. He's your typical urbanite who's experience with nature ends at a controlled national park.

[@tartarus1478]

“Cats eat grass. By this logic cats should be omnivores”... being an omnivore is simply the ability to gain nutrients from both plant and animal consumption. It’s not what we put in our mouth but what our body can process. You’ve equated consumption with digestion. We are evolutionarily closer to herbivores but still omnivores in that we gain nutrients from both animal and plant consumption.

[@SadMexican7]

I personally think humans are omnivores, but you do make some pretty good points. We need more people who calmly make arguments with actual evidence. Good job!

[@SadMexican7]

QuiteNot I am not saying the guy is right, I am saying he didn't scream it at you and call you a dirty carni.

[@QuiteNot]

Tzeentch, the Changer of Ways just a psychopath. ; ) that's just a little bit extreme don't you think? And you did say he made some pretty good points with actual evidence. I don't think he did, too many people don't know how science works and say things like it's true because they see someone who is sure it's right and spread false information. I hear some crazy things from people who are trying to be smart and say the weirdest dumbest things like our stomach is meant to be alkaline so we should drink this expensive water that has been made slightly more alkaline. Or that margarine is close to being plastic because some shitty nature website said so or I read some stupid excerpt from Facebook that says this is true...omfg! What is wrong with people to believe such shitty evidence.

[@SadMexican7]

QuiteNot Reading back at my comment, I did admit he used evidence. You are in fact right. I don't think humans are herbivores, like I mentioned, but I am saying this guy did not yell at people who don't have his opinion.

[@QuiteNot]

Tzeentch, the Changer of Ways ok. He didn't yell but he did put them down pretty harshly.

[@SadMexican7]

QuiteNot Can you please give some examples?

[@TheBlueiis]

I became vegetarian 20 years ago, and now I'm vegan. My recent cardiac test said my cholesterol in my carotid artery is O. I'm in robust good health. Best decision I ever made.

[@h8cp]

Scientists say that meats are one of the main reasons are brains developed

[@h8cp]

Nicki Styles and you snowflake didn’t let the meat settle and develop your brain the meat develops your brain thing is real

[@ossifrage6828]

@@KWEENOFHEARTZ the brain doesnt require glucose no cell in the human body requires glucose besides red blood cells

[@mmmmmmmmmmm111]

@@ossifrage6828 The brain can at best utilize 40-50% ketone bodies. The rest must be supplied by glucose. In normal circumstances, it preferentially uses glucose. It's a better source of energy for it.

[@Arviav]

GO HERBIVORE!

[@bullymaguire2061]

I guess ancient humans time traveled to the future to get their vitamin b12 supplements LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

[@bumbee795]

It's like you didn't watch the full video

[@bullymaguire2061]

@@bumbee795 his theory on river water containing b12 along with other vegetables actually isn't very viable. What, pollution was so bad, that the yeast all just died? Pfft There are still many places in the world where pollution still hasn't affected it yet. Take Bhutan, it's rivers are clean and have remained untouched. Where is the b12? No, you see B12 deficient people - www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=med.virginia.edu/family-medicine/wp-content/uploads/sites/285/2017/02/Nicele-Puente-Bhutanese-B12-Deficiency_Web.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjNoqWL-rHsAhUVVH0KHVKjBEkQFjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1OslTCbIN-3FyFo4hN2qol&cshid=1602605364322 There isn't a shred of evidence to support that b12 was ever present in rivers or water which could ever support the needs of a functional human body. I would be open to any evidence a vegan could provide, but it's just not there. Also, herbivores have their own gut bacteria that produce b12. So they are not solely dependant on external sources. And we don't have that. So yeah. Besides, your own Dr Gregor admits vegans need to supplement creatine as well... Just how many supplements does a vegan diet need? Creatine, B12, omega 3 dha, testosterone and so on...

[@yaccfonoti]

B12 comes from bacteria found in soil. Drinking from streams and eating plants gave us our b12

[@bullymaguire2061]

@@yaccfonoti what about creatine? Where did we get that from?

[@yaccfonoti]

@@bullymaguire2061 "Creatine is an amino acid located mostly in your body's muscles, as well as in the brain. The body's liver, pancreas and kidneys also make creatine. Your body converts creatine to phosphocreatine and stores it in your muscles, where it's used for energy" Bottom line is, your body creates creatine. Which is why animals have it. You don't need to eat extra creatine your body produces it naturally. People take creatine supplements because it can assist in muscle building. Vegans can also take creatine supps. No dramas 👌

[@sharkfacemlg]

Lol humans "hate" the idea of blood and guts

[@mindmonkey00]

+John. When we live in a comfortable first world environment and can choose whatever we want to eat.

[@mindmonkey00]

John. W We'd have to eat meat in order to survive in an environment where we can't afford to choose our dietary lifestyle. Much like our human ancestors did. I'm not against veganism at all, I'm just debunking science that's based out of preference. You don't want to admit you're a omnivore. You want to believe that somehow all meat eaters have been doing it wrong and this is you're proof. Why do this have to be an argument. Why do you challenge our natural lifestyle when you can simply use the argument that, because we can thrive on a vegan diet, you're making the choice to harm animals for what amounts to nothing. All this unsupported science is completely pointless and makes vegans look overly biased and irrational.

[@mindmonkey00]

John. W Oh, didn't see the quotes. whoops.

[@sharkfacemlg]

mindmonkey00 I edited it in, he said that in the video.

[@imjustsaying5357]

+mindmonkey00 Lol, can't afford to choose your dietary lifestyle? Eating vegan is the absolute cheapest lifestyle you can have. Meat is not only expensive but from a nutritional standpoint it has more cons than pros. The science is there and it is supported. Look at the death rates in this country and that's a major one right there. Heart disease is number one, cancer is second. Caused by clogged arteries due to saturated fat and cholesterol. Save not only your lives, but the animals and the planet.

[@demoskunk]

So, Mic, how many stomachs do you have and how big is your cecum? How many times do you regurgitate your plants to chew it again to digest it properly?

[@olivialoveworthy]

You're awesome, Mic! We really need you - there aren't many vegan channels I'm comfortable referring people to, but I have no problem sharing your videos!