Humor and Comic Styles with Cluster B Personality Pathology

This video answers the questions: Can I describe the humor styles and the comic styles? What comic styles would tend to see with Cluster B personality pathology?
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Cluster B Personality Pathology (erratic, dramatic):
Antisocial Personality Disorder: criminality, irresponsibility, and impulsivity
Borderline Personality Disorder: fear of abandonment, relationship difficulties
Narcissistic Personality Disorder: grandiose sense of self-importance, arrogance, sense of entitlement
Histrionic Personality Disorder: attention seeking and provocative
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[@MartinJohnZ]

This is just great, now I'm over-analyzing every single joke that I make

[@LuciaInman]

lol

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

Hollywood marvels at all the Canadian comics that go down there and make it big time. That's because, if you can make a CANADIAN laugh, you can make ANYBODY laugh. Except a Brit. But there's a connection that explains it.

[@LisaSmith-yb2uz]

Well, at least you’re conscientious 😉

[@MartinJohnZ]

@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Brits have stiff upper lips, to make them laugh you just have to focus your attention to the lower lip area.

[@donditheblondie9758]

😅😅😅😅🤣🤣

[@marcye3649]

Psychologist here, you are amazing and so far, I’ve seen nothing that does not fit with gold standard theories/treatments for mental health disorders. Thank you for spreading scientific information in a palatable way for non-clinicians. Really enjoying your work! 😀

[@dansaintamour6923]

"If something is funny, it is not dangerous anymore" - Voltare. Thanks for the analysis.

[@taburzblism3287]

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to make fun of" - Voltaire

[@chrisgould101]

The heyoka personality

[@sadyoshhours2769]

Me mum- me

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

When you start thinking someone is funny and not dangerous, that can be the most dangerous time of all.

[@H0kram]

@@ronaldgarrison8478 Totally agreed and largely proven. As for the Voltaire lovers, please consider that if you really do your researches about the man, you'll see that if he was alive today, he'd probably be a moral lesson giver on Instagram and Twitter, when he's not cancelling people or investing in ore mining in Amazonia while claiming to be the perfect ecologist. He was just that, and more. He was extremely cynical. Being remembered as an advocate of freedom for all, while he made most of his fortune out of slave trade, and wrote down that a good society is one in which the poor knows his place and the rich can govern in peace, is alone something to question your love for this man. Rousseau was the real brilliant and candid man of the era. And he got so much hatred and suffuring from the influencial and jealous Voltaire for that.

[@nugamer2475]

A narcissist's humor is either insensitive or insulting . There's this heavy scent of insecurity to put people down.

[@Mijn24]

My sense of humor is insensitive but I usually use it to expose societal problems not to purposely put people down, sarcasm implies a sense of annoyance or anger

[@TheSepia1]

YES!!!! Absolutely True!!

[@frankenz66]

Do my best not to make my humor about people but things, and things of society instead. Some defensive people will still try and take affront to it, but ultimately one can show them they are trying to own something that is not theirs to take a personal affront for, but societal.

[@wildhearses]

I think in this clinical context, Dr. Grande is saying "humor" as one of those specifically defined subsets is meant to encompass everyone's flaws including the person using the humor... narcissists probably attempt to do this especially since they WANT people to like them but since they lack the insight to see fault in themselves it goes from "aren't all humans goofy" to "everyone's goofy except me" which is just condescension. And yeah, it's pretty insecure.

[@natashamudford4011]

Yes, I just dealt with that recently. A narcissist compared me to a woman who made the news by behaving very badly. He did not seem to understand that his comment was insensitive and insulting, and when I told him as much, he got mad that I couldn't take a joke. He turned the tables by feeling insulted at my lack of amusement, and he refused to admit he was wrong for being so insensitive. Ultimately, he "cancelled" our relationship, which is rather a relief for me. This guy has been particularly draining in the short time I have known him.

[@Mijn24]

*George Carlin* Under every cynic is a disappointed idealist

[@traitorjoseph1893]

He was probably a loving father and good husband.

[@Mijn24]

traitor joseph he was just annoyed by societies problems

[@traitorjoseph1893]

@Transhumanist Cult Awareness Network lmao bro

[@gamleskalle1]

He was great

[@SugaryPhoenixxx]

@Bob Taylor He really was a gem for society. He could take the most complex social problems & break them down into simple humor, & make those problems seem idiotically simple. Loved George Carlin!

[@Kokola-qh9wp]

This is such an interesting topic! My therapist often laughs with me (maybe we share similar humor styles) and it definitely has a positive effect on my recovery...

[@lue5776]

My psychologist is a sex therapist… guess what jokes I sometimes bring up at the end of a session

[@owotime6883]

10:15 when you live together for too long with somebody you end up creating loads of internal jokes and, when you end up interacting with others, you end up with a nonsense type of humor.

[@AmyLSacks]

It's a real blessing to have a partner who appreciates your sense of humor, or at least tolerates it. Like my husband when I sing silly songs to the cat. :D

[@Censeo]

Like mispronounce certain words on purpose. Calling items of food with human name (we have named eggs Leif). Nonsense is quite funny with a partner.

[@tabathaburt6]

Nonsense is only possible with a level of vulnerability and intimacy (friend, family, or romantic). Without the relational aspect, it can not be appreciated. I am fortunate to have a spouse, and a few close others, to engage in nonsense with!

[@mikelittwinprincetontv117]

If they don't have non-sense there is no silliness. No one can be relaxed, there is nothing but tension. When silliness ends the relationship is over. this is an example of Irony.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@mikelittwinprincetontv117 In addition Court Jesters used barbed wit cloaked with nonsense, so that it could all be dismissed as "just nonsense"

[@mcm9619]

We used to have a notice up at work; “Humour often offends” . Working in the NHS and unsure of the mental health of patients , this was a very good insight to embrace if one did not want to be either physically or verbally assaulted.

[@MartinJohnZ]

Humour often offends. Lack of humour often gets people depressed. I'd rather be offended than depressed, thank you very much.

[@AmyLSacks]

One thing I noticed constantly before I quit Twitter was how many of us are bad at the concept of "Know Your Audience." And professional comedians who treated that entire vast space as just another comedy club were some of the absolute worst. It really kind of put me off paying any further attention to stand-up, either online or off. :/

[@beth1979]

Random PC-User I think you missed the point.(or perhaps I have) Humour whilst working in the NHS can be a bad idea, because it is not beneficial for example a suicidally depressed person to be made fun of. Things like chronic illness and mental illness can make a person irrational and defensive (I know since I've had both) and in a healthcare situation it can be taken the wrong way. Humour in the general public, yeah, offensiveness can be funny. But as a religious person the now compulsory "doncha hate religion" joke has become predictable and grates on my nerves.

[@kesmarn]

Yes. And as an RN I can say that a lot of medical people either have or develop a sort of dark humor to help deal with the stresses of the job. Best to keep that out of the earshot of patients and their families, though, because usually what they're going through is anything but funny to them. And they're right.

[@fatuusdottore]

Random PC-User Same, but I’d rather be alive than amused lol.

[@Hdkd62736hd]

Such an interesting topic! Your channel is brilliant. Keep up the excellent content! We appreciate it & you very much!

[@abob4815]

Dr. Grande, will you do a Quarantine Q&A? here are a few of my curiosities: 💖 what was your initial inspiration to start a KZbin channel? 🦄 do you work with cluster b personality disorders in your clinical practice? 🌈 what kind of mental health disorders have you worked with the most? ✨what drew you to the field of psychology? thanks, good day to you, sir✌🏻

[@marcye3649]

That would be fun! I’d ask- your favorite coping skill to teach and why?

[@marcye3649]

aimee glatt He May not feel okay about that if he sees clients irl. One would not want anyone they were working with to know those kinds of details. It’s not personal, it’s a protection in case someone becomes very ill and makes bad decisions and now have his personal info.

[@mlw1700]

It should be one of those “ Ask me anything” videos. Is that scary, Dr G?

[@DefinitelyNotBender]

This is a really great idea!!

[@LuciaInman]

Chelsey, he answered your first question in one of his Patreon videos. I wish he'd do a live chat answering people's questions at some point.

[@renep7008]

Dr. Grande, Great Topic! And with that being said, I hereby dub thee, a Cluster B Knowledge King.🤴 👑

[@misse7154]

And not an easy group to figure out!

[@epicmercury333]

This was a fascinating breakdown, Dr. Grande. I’ve always intuitively known that someone’s sense of humor, or lack thereof, revealed a great deal about the inner workings of their personality. I’ve also noticed the lack of insight that accompanies the disordered personalities. This video is much appreciated.

[@BeckBeckGo]

Oh man, you literally eviscerated the entire internet. I’ve never seen anyone else do that.

[@AspieMoonWoman]

Dr Grande. Your videos change lives. You really do change lives ..brains...and ppl..relations...you are simply the superman of our day and age. Like someone giving ppl eyes to see more..to see brighter..to simply see underneath the tip of the iceberg...its incredible the amount of info you have..how you make it easy..constructed..and articulated..very scientific..objective..and to the point. While still keeping it human with your micro facial expressions of kindness and sympathy. And a very professional and compassionate tone. You really are an inspiration . Thank you.

[@egrace3738]

This is the most interesting lecture I have ever heard Dr. Grande, and I am including all lectures on space travel, physics, microbiology AND Archeteuthis Dux. I will need to listen to this a few times and really enjoy my time to understand the complexity of the aspect of human personality. I have never considered these things, and I learned something new. Wow---many thanks!

[@wiskadjak]

Archeteuthis Dux is my favourite squid. Awesome creatures!

[@fatuusdottore]

Ellen Grace Space > people tho.

[@NataliaMichalova]

Agreed! I feel like I need to take notes next time. Get some flashcards going. This stuff is fascinating!

[@Blissblizzard]

@@NataliaMichalova l honestly think humour is one of the most complex things humans do. I mean sometimes we think we're getting trolled by our pets, or passing seagulls, but they're so hard to read. Given Docs time constraints l think it was an exellent overview. You could have a whole channel dedicated to the many aspects of humour analysis, and never ever run out of topics! Having taught creative writing and yet only found one book analysing humour, ( that was by an Ad copywriter) So that comparative absence of analysis (given the popularity of humour) is intriguing me too.

[@tracieday8661]

Dr. Grande has a bit of sardonic wit. Lol

[@johnwu3219]

My friends told me I am an interesting/humorous person. But when my BPD is triggered, I tend to interpret other people's words as sarcasm and feel offended😂.

[@nickman9639]

John Wu If this happens to me I think about it for a minute. It’s possible they were being sarcastic but it’s also possible they were being genuine. In the absence of evidence for either of them, you just don’t know. And that’s ok.

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

@@nickman9639 if you dish it out, you gotta take it. Mr. President.

[@nickman9639]

Dwight st. john What does that mean?

[@lue5776]

Fellow BPD here. Sarcasm is a bit of a coping mechanism I think. Personally I prefer humour that’s pun based, or situational.

[@vals74]

A very insightful topic. In my experience with narcissists, they tend not to have a sense of humor at all. To them, I have noticed that they get enjoyment from seeing someone fall or experience some kind of embarrassment. This to them seems humorous. Of course, this is in my opinion. I like to LOL, and find that in my “cookyness” a great release of my all to often seriousness. Even though most don’t get me, so to speak.:) Thank you, Dr. Grande. Nice to see you smiling! 😊

[@Jess-kn8vl]

A friend laughed when I gave him a cactus when I visited. I told him I have a dry sense of humor. 😉

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

dry, and prickly

[@carolnahigian9518]

Cluster b Narcisist in my family all SARCASTIC AND SNOTS-boring!!!

[@chrisgould101]

I'm sure there's a prick of a joke here somewhere.

[@neshmalifestyletv2737]

Haha, I am definitely using this one. 😆💃🏻

[@Chefgrlangel]

😹😹😹

[@ThatMans-anAnimal]

As a facet of agreeableness, having humor means you're less likely to point out somebody's mistakes. That's why it's called "humor(ing) them." The focus in terms of attribution is the situation rather than the individual. I'm sure this would make a councilor more likeable, at the cost of their efficacy to accurately criticize and alter their clients' behavior. Humor is all about greasing social interactions by maintaining relationships at the cost of insight into the task at hand, so it follows that it would have those associations you felt were counter-intuitive.

[@delilahhart4398]

I love sarcasm, irony, and satire. Dorothy Zbornak was definitely my favorite Golden Girl! And I love British comedy! 😃

[@cantfindmykeys]

The actress that played Dorothy went to my boarding school years before I did. She was always a smartass according to the headmaster.

[@michaelking4578]

This is a complicated subject for me to get my head around. Very interesting.

[@mikelittwinprincetontv117]

Make a chart

[@chrisgould101]

As an ex class clown, it's also hard for me !

[@tammyoreis]

Dr. Grande, I'm very pleased by the serendipity of finding your channel a few days ago. I have done marathons of these good short classes you share with us. Thank you!

[@FuelAirSparkTime]

We don't use that word around here we say synchronicity instead being a psychological channel and all

[@kimberlysmith5404]

My favorite video of yours so far!!! Excellent work, Doctor Grande...

[@matildabryant8398]

Great video! My favorite part was when you almost laughed.

[@tamarahirschler5232]

Thank you Dr.Grande. I have a deep appreciation for your humble and objective perspective on mental health issues, as an Occupational Therapist I think your voice is a grounding force for those who seek evidence based opinions amongst an OCEAN of subjective mental health videos on youtube ;) I particularly enjoy your comical psychological “video dossiers” of fictional characters. Ever watch It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia: if not start with S8E5 “The Gang Gets Analyzed”

[@XxHATE1xX]

Glad to see your channel getting the attention it deserves, thanks for helping me understand the world! Best wishes - a kid from San Diego

[@serdoubleyou6239]

This video has helped me understand myself and the people in my life through the lens of humor. It is invaluable to me and I appreciate it immensely. Thank you Dr. Grande.

[@peterplotts3]

This made me think of my own counselor. It is no exaggeration to say he was wonderfully excellent. Along with being a first-rate human being, he had a great sense of humor. We connected at that level as well as intellectually. For these reasons and others, he had my complete trust and confidence. He was adept at using humor to give me insight into my own behavior. I owe him a debt that I can never repay. Great video, Dr. Grande.

[@mirandajsummers]

Very interesting. Growing up, we all had to appreciate our dad's 'special' sense of humour. No getting upset now.

[@kaylacarpenter272]

Dr. Grande, I absolutely loved this video. You are so fun to watch. You are a very good speaker, seem to be a gentle person, and highly intelligent. Thank you so much for your content.

[@FastEddieee]

Dr. Grande, perhaps a video on Schadenfreude would be relevant and well received given our sociopolitical landscapes?

[@pocoeagle2]

Great topic Dr. Grande👍. Can you please do the same, but then humor and comic styles with the cluster C personality pathology? Would be great! Thanks 😃🇳🇱

[@Phoenix333Rising]

Yes please! And Cluster A too!

[@buzzevermore9309]

Your videos calm the mind while informing. Your jokes are funny af 🤣

[@studiosandi]

I saw a therapist who was hilarious. And you're right he knew when to be funny He changed my life.

[@jordanrambles7127]

I’m definitely someone who’s self-deprecating in my humour, I often think it’s just being English but I think it’s also just a shield, I’m autistic and riddled with acne. My humour tended to be full of misanthropy and irony, it’s kind of something I wanna grow out of

[@Kenzofeis]

Acne may have to do with your diet, there are videos about this too

[@jordanrambles7127]

Kenzofeis it could be that, I’ve cut out takeaways and I eat more fruit now. I need to improve my skin cleaning routine

[@Kenzofeis]

@@jordanrambles7127 The skin is supposed to have a thin layer of fat as protection. From nature it is supposed to take care of itself, only light cleaning when dirtied, basically (dirt, grime, old sweat and such). Too much or too little is usually bad, whatever it is. Try the videos?

[@jordanrambles7127]

Kenzofeis I’ll look them up

[@AmyLSacks]

@@jordanrambles7127 In my younger years they prescribed me Retin-A. I don't have a perfect complexion but it's much better than it used to be. Docs are naturally overburdened right now, but it might be worth an investigation later on. Best.

[@JeanieD]

👍🏻😃👏🏻 Thanks so much for this video, Dr. Grande - I enjoyed this one the most so far of any I’ve watched. My husband watched part of it with me, and he tried to identify himself with the humor types and comic types you outlined. We both enjoy fun, humor, nonsense, satire, and occasionally wit, and our shared humor/comic types are part of what drew us together. We especially liked what you mentioned about the correlation between nonsense and long-term relationships. I think the reason why is that people who are able to see the absurdity of everyday things around us and laugh lightheartedly are more likely to be forgiving of their partner’s shortcomings, and especially if they share this with one another. I’m not sure if I’m fully explaining this the way it feels to me in my marriage, but I know that our humor is a very strong bond, and it has definitely held us together through some very tough times. Thanks again for some of the most interesting, useful content on KZbin!

[@Virginiareaper]

I've had anti social personality disorder all my life, and these videos are the most accurate and informative videos I could find. Thank you for informing the general public about these topics.

[@giri.goyo_yt]

Your explanations are beautiful. I was trying to research this last year and you cover it all in detail and briefly. Thank you.

[@LawrenceChung]

that's very interesting. I have BPD and I used to dislike sarcasm, but I had a friend who, over the years, insisted his sarcastic style of humor on me and eventually I now embrace it. When you mentioned vulnerable narcissism, I instantly connected that with my previous dislike of sarcasm. Nowadays I understand my flaws, I learned to accept them as they are, and use sarcasm to capture them in a nice package. Although the slightest failures can still cause me to become worried or anxious for days, I just accept them for what it is now and know that they've been done and I can't go back time to change what I said/did.

[@rebeccarose5459]

Will you PLEASE do an analysis on/diagnose the gang from it’s always sunny in Philadelphia?!

[@AmyLSacks]

You'd need a couple of hours for that. :)

[@rebeccarose5459]

@Estarossa what

[@Tara-id3rk]

So funny how you explained a narcissist’s attempt at using humor...but it falling short. That has definitely been my experience with my spouse who has been diagnosed with BPD and I believe to be a vulnerable narcissist. Mostly, he is very offensive and inappropriate in different settings. It has always felt embarrassing to me.

[@JoshuaDb_The_Witness]

As an improv teaching artist I found this fascinating

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

you can't be what you are not. in impromptu or improv. if you're naturally sarcastic, that's what you should do. if you try to be ha ha funny and that's not you, it won't work.

[@mayranavarro755]

Great topic! Thank you for this video Dr. Grande!

[@catharinepizzarello4784]

Fascinating! I had never thought about any of this. I love your dry humor, Dr Grande!

[@diredier]

Fascinating, thank you so much for all the content!

[@Adara007]

Thanks for a very interesting examination of a subject I'd been interested in for some time, and for applying a rigorous scientific approach to it. Much appreciated by an INTJ like myself, especially when you look into such intriguing subjects.

[@frankenz66]

Very true the last point you touched upon about a therapist needing to be very guarded about thrusting their humor upon a patient. An acutely depressed individual will not appreciate that, and see it negatively. At those times I encountered that, I just was indifferent about it. It was better than aggressive therapist I encountered ( in the VA system) The long term chronically depressed, (as I was) I am talking about should be encouraged to seek out their own humor for cathartic reasons perhaps. Upon looking back, I was depressed for reasons, sure, but not acute ones over time it was for no reason at all. A person like that should eventually be encouraged ( but not steered) to seek out humor wherever, and whenever, they can. I wasn't encouraged, but by doing so on my own accord helped. I also noticed, that as I felt better the humor that got my most attention became less and less crude. Also, it and along with many other things, helped cure my body of long term underlying illnesses, being I was so prone to hold ( emotionally) everything in. Idealism is a beautifully poisonous thing. It can kill a person if he is not flexible to the curves that life's highway throws his way.

[@shaun_rambaran]

What an interesting topic! Thanks to whoever asked this!

[@nextpage3535]

Histrionic PD --- "there is an attempt to use wit, but the lack of insight makes it challenging to effectively use wit". Spot on!

[@montysloungetv]

He's quite quote worthy

[@lainiwakura6903]

That's the first (and only) video I've seen on having the humor being analyzed in such a structured manner, what a gem

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Awesome video Dr. Grande! Forgive me if I am being intrusive, but I think you are very witty which is not surprising given your high level of intelligence:) I tend to appreciate satire and wit. This was such a great topic-very interesting. Also, within a month the number of subscribers increased by 28K! This is so impressive!! I am so happy for you and I wish you nothing but success and more and more subscribers!!! Thank you again Dr. Grande for your consistent amazing work:)

[@Phoenix333Rising]

Wow! I don't tend to look at numbers of subscribers, but that is indeed impressive and well merited. Congrats Dr. G!

[@renep7008]

Rejane Oliveira Yes, Dr. Grande is lit and on fire. 🔥

[@anniezzi7513]

Judging by Dr Grande’s grin I would say there is a fair bit of nonsense in his household. 🤓

[@Virginiareaper]

he does a little trolling

[@cbeautifulworld11]

Liked this before I've even watched. Great topic! Thank you ☀

[@ourcollectiveinsanity]

If a person in distress goes to a counselor, and the counselor starts cracking jokes, the first thing i would think is that the guy lacks enough empathy to feel the other side, its pretty obvious that a person seeking help with their mental and emotional problems and paying good money for a counselor is not looking for a clown, but a counselor, otherwise they would be at a comedy club.

[@AmyLSacks]

The other thing is: IRL we often use humor to cope with awful things we can't fix. It can be a real oasis to be in front of person who doesn't expect or demand that of us. We can put those toys/costumes away, and have another side of ourselves appreciated for a change.

[@nancyayers6355]

It's been my experience that people having a type B Cluster disorder absolutely does not have either clownish impulses or an inmate sense of humor. My first husband was a Narsisist and one of our children is Borderline. So I've been in the trenches for years. They don't necessarily mellow with age. Oh, these two can mix and mingle great, laugh and talk and seem like nice people, but it's at least a bit of a front! They are both smart and hard- working, but they were born that way and I don't think anyone can change that. I find Cluster B's disappointing but I have to accept them the way they ARE.

[@pavla2055]

I always noticed my overt narcissistic father and mother in law seemed to only ever be amused by others' misfortune . It made them feel superior and they both enjoyed the 'kick 'em while they're down' behaviour .

[@rgonzalo511]

What would happen if the tables were reversed?

[@hithere4951]

Such an interesting topic. Keep the great work dr grande.

[@KimPosteryournewpenpal]

Damn I'm loving these back to back uploads

[@leerwesen]

Same! hoping he does this video but with cluster A and B

[@murri9620]

This video made me click instantly, so happy when there’s new uploads

[@chrisgould101]

You have a nice face

[@misse7154]

What humor style does Dr. Grande have? The best deadpan out there! From Cluster Amazing personality!

[@LuciaInman]

haha, totally

[@okeworth]

what an amazingly interesting topic! i'm a huge fan of stand up comedy and love researching mental health so this is a lovely combination

[@conniethingstad1070]

well, that was interesting! Bingo on some of those which seem to occur in my life. Another great video and something I had not ever thought much about before.

[@elke9499]

Self defeating humor in Miranda. We love her and miss her ❤🤣🤣🤣Thanks for good explanation 👍

[@Dunitagin93]

Very interesting topic! Thanks, Dr. G.!

[@delaney6066]

Thank you for the work you do!

[@po.po.poquito]

I would never have thought to ask this.. interesting question, and answers. This was an entertaining one for me.

[@MrHansBattle]

Thanks Dr Grande. Some day in the future could you do a video on the potential overlap of Cluster B traits - specifically NPD and BPD. As in, if a Venn Diagram was drawn with a circle for each... where the two circles overlapped... there would be a set of traits that commonly cross over between the two. But which traits would these be... and how would they manifest themselves?

[@montysloungetv]

One of your top five Next up - The comedic and humor styling of Dr grande Coming next year - Grande on vaknin

[@adambell6432]

Dr. Grande, this is one of my favorite videos yet! I read a lot of psychology research, but this is an area I didn't even know existed. I loved that you really got into the correlations of personality and humor style. Fascinating stuff, I will definitely do more research. There seems to be a lot more to this than would initially be apparent. What people are able and willing to laugh at is actually very telling when you consider it. That said, get off of the five factor model, and tell your colleagues. HEXACO is far superior. Everyone knows it. Just publish it.

[@sonjab6127]

another excellent video. (Your own comic style comes through in many of your videos, and embraces a few different styles. I love your sarcasm which is a great teaching tool, for emphasizing your points. Your imagery doesn't just crack me up - it would help me if I were studying for a psych exam.)

[@AmyLSacks]

Lots to chew on here. I'll have to re-watch later when I have time. A couple of points: to an observer of humor or comic works, I'm not sure the boundaries between these types are that noticeable, or even very important. As a fan (and maker) of Dada/Surrealist/Situationist-flavored art, for instance: I feel that irony and nonsense would readily bleed into and overlap one another almost constantly. See also, perennial popular entertainment like *The Simpsons* . Also, to someone not working in therapy or psychology, the real differentiation of humor types/styles might have more to do with *who is telling the joke* and their relationship to the *subject* of the joke. IOW, a boss who uses humor involving their subordinates creates a dynamic very different from a subordinate who does the same involving their boss. "Punch down," vs. "Punch up." Cheers.

[@fatuusdottore]

Amy L. Sacks It depends. If the boss is generally good to the subordinates and has a friendly relationship, I think a joke or two at their expense could be had. If the subordinate is envious of the boss and uses the “punching up” humour as a way to patch insecurities rather than in good fun, it’s malicious IMO.

[@junerittmeyer1794]

Oh, how I love Rodney Dangerfield. I often quote him. I loved when his girlfriend was trying to break up with him and he said: "Is there someone else?" and she said: "There must be." I could go on but I must be serious here! Thank you Dr. Grande - I love your videos.

[@lunasanja4574]

that was typical yiddish humour. questionable. (yawn).

[@rayross997]

Rodney Dangerfield, quote, "I awoke the other night & my wife was talking sexy, I looked over & she was on the phone". He was one of the best.

[@auset808]

Very informative, thank you for educating me.

[@InLawsAttic]

Very helpful to help me understand better the Vulnerable-borderline person. This is a lot to comprehend, thanks Doc!

[@zenawarrior7442]

Just found this. Wow how interesting! I never realized all the different types and their meanings🎭. We love your humor and insight Dr G😄😂😉😏💙💛

[@jamescollett5352]

Absolutely amazing video!!!

[@shellyshannon5226]

Super interesting! Thanks Dr Grande.

[@RockawayCCW]

If my counselor was cracking jokes, I would probably feel like s/he was making fun of me. Probably not what I'm looking for if I'm going to a professional for help.

[@chrisgould101]

That's a catch 22

[@Tindometari]

Humour is a very powerful and effective tool in therapeutic work ... but it's one that has to be used precisely, with sensitivity and careful attention to the client. I've had a therapist who was very good at this. I was put off slightly by this at first, for exactly the reason you mention ... but then I realized that doing this meant she was paying close personal attention. But ... a therapist who isn't good with this tool should not be employing it. Like any powerful tool, the power of the tool magnifies the harm it can do if used incorrectly.

[@j_freed]

We sometimes need to be helped to see things. And the Trickier it is for us to see something, the Sneakier must be the method… A lot of really good teaching is Indirect.

[@alexandraschuster9700]

You are too self aware of yourself, although you suffer of really poor self-esteem. You actually make it all about yourself by thinking everyone is paying attention to your every move, in order to make fun of you. Just like an arrogant narcissist who thinks is the center of the universe, and everyone wants to be he/she. But on the other spectrum of narcissism. I am telling you this with so much conviction, because you sound like I used to be. Just know that it is possible to change that and actually falling in love with yourself with the intensity of a first love. This kind of love is the tru unconditional love of self. You will gain the ability to self-reflect, becoming self-aware and brutally honest with yourself. And like a domino effect you will be able to change flaws and accept you with all the flaws that continue to stay. Be able to see beauty in and out just the way you are. This is my experience. I wish you the best, and Yes You Can

[@grannysweet]

Another road map to know who to avoid and who to embrace. Thank you again for clean concise information with out personal biases. 😎👍🐶

[@n.c.6211]

Great video Doctor Grande! 💛 I loved this topic! Hmm I can't help thinking at the Joker's failed attempt to be a stand-up comedian. I think humour plays a huge part in cluster b personality disorders because it's perceived as charming, yet is detached way to relate to others. It can be used to create a superficial sense of connection.

[@boblewis2274]

I'm ever fascinated by the upifting after-effects of using humor has on people. It's like eveyone is a broken person somehow, but humor somehow fills in the cracks! 🙂

[@bethmeeker5203]

Sorry to keep bombarding you with gratitude for your clear concise presentation on the “topic of topics” in the mental health field....obviously. I have been trying to change the mental health world and they’ve baker acted (Florida law) me six times. No joke. They are attempting to Baker Act me again currently and threatening to take my license because I asked the clinical director why we aren’t diagnosing PD’s and treating them?? She told me, no kidding,, they deleted the PD’s from the DSM 5 because the insurance companies won’t pay because they are long term treatment. I was shocked she said this in a weekly treatment meeting with all of our colleagues. Not one single therapist stood up for me when I challenged her why they deleted them, just to see what she would say..... and she changed the subject and I was fired by HR for.....they won’t put in writing because they know I know all about their insurance fraud and illegal substances being used by patients knowingly in a treatment facility. Won’t address “substance abuse” issues because “we not licensed to treat substance, only mental health.” Anyway crazy story, still ongoing, I’m being investigated by the Florida Department of Health to wait for my reprimand. I finally got an interview with the “investigator” which is not a clinician. He would’ve tell me what his credentials were to adjudicate my actions as a therapist. He got insulted and refused to believe anything I told him. I recorded it if you want to hear it. His name is Dave Berry, by the way. Anyway my book is like a whistle blower book on the mental health system, from the perspective of the client, I have an intense mood disorder, which the Board knows about, and also the perspective of the therapist. So my book is about Wetiko in Women. I got the idea from a friend and colleague you may know, Paul Levy in his two books about the crisis we are in globally because of this mind parasite called Wetiko, a Native American word which translates to “the white man’s disease,’ aka white privilege. Anyway, would love to know your thoughts of that if you have time.

[@Urshi9]

How very interesting. I have been wondering about this for some time, as I have personally noticed different appreciation for specific types of humour from different personalities. I was in an abusive relationship with someone who had psychopathic traits. He would use his so-called humour to say mean things about me and bring me down, but insist it was ‘just a joke’. I have also noticed this happens a lot online when people with certain character traits undermine other people’s hurt or offence to ‘jokes’ which are in fact mean-spirited. Thankyou for this really int Thankyou for this video 🙏

[@taburzblism3287]

its a common cheap excuse those kinds of people often use to justify their behavior. its mainly "blame shifting" and acting like you are at fault somehow due to "not having a sense of humor" . in reality its not humor at all its intentionally being mean and then not taking responcibility for what one says so they get away with it. a cheap cop out. i can type more about this malicious humor they often use to undermine others with if you like? its a form of abuse and boundary pushing to see how far the other person is willing to let it go. kind of a power and control thing

[@Urshi9]

taburz blism yes it certainly is. After ruminating over what had gone on, I naturally did a fair bit of research (hence watching videos like this) and learned something very valuable from it. Everyone has a different type of humour and threshold as to what they can take when it comes to humour at their own expense. It’s made me realise that if the person making the joke didn’t actually intend on hurting you, and you flag it up, they would surely realise they made an error of judgment and just apologise... when they don’t and ridicule you further for having ‘no sense of humour’ , that’s a big red flag!

[@taburzblism3287]

@@Urshi9 but with that being said, some people actually do genuinely have no sense of humor and deserve to be offended and are asking for it. Sometimes they pretend to be offended just to try hurt you or guilt trip you which is another manipulative ploy. i've seen some people laugh hard at a joke, and then when told the same joke by someone else they play victim or claim being offended just to mess with their head. i guess it really depends on context and people rather than boundaries and acceptability. im not saying to disregard everyones offense and be obnoxious, i'm saying judgement comes down to the person telling the joke, and then also in judging the response and how they deal with the aftermath of it. Sometimes the other persons reaction is bait or supply, they claim offense, then turn around and use the same joke to someone else the next day and take credit for it lol. its a crazy world we live in.

[@AnimalsMatterMorally]

Super, SUPER interesting, thank you!

[@goodenergy11]

Wow 🤩 what an unexpected yet telling 👍 topic that feels like 400 college level ninja grade information that can turn into knowledge, if grasped. Thank you!!! We appreciate your vast coverage of this one topic.

[@Soothsayer937]

As usual, Dr. Grande, thorough and incisive.

[@emsee1138]

Brilliant!! This was new information to me. 👏👏👏

[@neitik1179]

Interesting analysis! After I found out and realized the negative aspects of sarcasm, I've been interested to know where the different comic styles arise from in different people, why people choose or use more some of them. This analysis on personality correlations was very interesting! I would also like to hear more analysis on the differences of sarcasm and irony (they often seem to overlap) and the differences of the first and the last four styles - relating on how and why people use them. For example, sometimes it seems that self-oriented sarcasm or irony seems to protect people from difficult or traumatic experiences. It can sound awfully terrible, so when does it hurt the person instead of protecting?

[@Blissblizzard]

Technically you can't DO irony, irony is derived from a specific, not obvious at 1st, and never obvious to some, SITUATION. lrony can seen as funny or not, depending on how much your affected by the situation or choose to emotionally detach, (as you alluded to detachment) Irony like punning can entail high intelligence, which is why both styles are mocked in a pseudo populist era. Sarcasm is often mislabelled as being ironic by the pretentious. Definitely the term "ironic" appropriated and used disingenuously by pop culture. Irony is primarily subjective, RETROSPECTIVE, reflective. Sarcasm is aggressive, can be either mind numbingly stupid OR crazy intelligent, all in all its still better than a punch in the face! Sarcasm is used by the intelligent to "break contact" with the ignorant, or by trolls craving attention and unbroken contact. So sarcasm can be the use of a rapier like wit, or bludgeoning with a blunt instrument.

[@sashag6558]

Thank you thank you thank you! I feel my consciousness expanding. You explained some of my thoughts on different types of humour styles and helped me have more objective view. I have always loved wit but sort of was suspicious of those who use sarcasm excessively, now I know why.

[@lraby2001]

I really would have enjoyed a college professor like you! Thank you for your videos!

[@DavidDeeble]

As a comedian and Dr. Grande fan, this should be good!

[@nicolamarie3848]

I had a wonderful councillor and we had a few good hard belly laughs together at my situation. I was done with crying and didn't find it at all offensive. She was also very empathetic and kind. I saw a psychologist before her who was emotionally cold, would stare right at me and talked as if she were reading an encyclopedia. I didn't like that at all. I am currently seeing a different psychologist and I can have a laugh with him. For me the laughter works.

[@yourenough3]

This was interesting , thanks Dr. Grande.

[@taranehwilkinson5087]

Interesting video! It made sense to learn that older adults (as opposed to youth) deal more in the humorous comic style. Humor seems like something that takes emotional and social intelligence as well as insight--for many of us something gained only with age and experience. Cheers to learning curves! The double use of the term humor in this video confused me for a second, but I think it's sorted now.

[@MrVoraxTranstellaris]

Do people lacking in empathy not recognize when people express their annoyance or offence or do they just don't care? It seems they think it's all part of the fun, making it very difficult to get them to stop crossing your boundaries with their "humor" and "teasing" (i.e. their bullying and taunting).

[@taburzblism3287]

the way to make them stop is to troll them, meaning dont take their teasing insults seriously and instead respond in a way that intentionally gives them a kind of answer they least want to hear. the way one responds to those people must show disregard for the insult while still acknowledging it in some way or the answer displaying you are not taking it seriously or personally but firing back in a way that shows your not offended. heres an example, person A says _"why are you dressed that way? u must be over compensating for something.... probebly a small dick"_ person B responds saying _"yes i have a small dick but your mother didnt seem to care about size last night, so i guess size doesnt matter"_ being person B eventually over time makes person A stop crossing boundaries with their humor and teasing since they can learn to expect your response will only turn the joke on them and not be taken serious. Person A will get anger or upset redirected back at them.

[@ohyoucanread]

And also "testing" how far they can take it

[@nodiggity9472]

Its not people lacking in empathy, because you need empathy to find those boundaries. And if this keeps happening, maybe it's your boundaries that need looking at. You don't have any kind of right not to be offended, maybe your boundaries are over extended.

[@reececaldwell722]

@@nodiggity9472 kinda happy to see this response. If someone has foot in mouth syndrome, maybe they are indeed not paying attention to others. But if someone can somehow find a way to dig at you accurately consistently, well then they probably actually have quite a lot of empathy. Their jokes come from knowing what u would be worried about were they you, provided their digs are pretty accurate. Me and my friends rip on eachother constantly, and most of the times it’s accurate. It’s very clearly an underlying statement of “I know you.” If someone is always trying to rip on u and not quite getting it right very often, then yeah they probably just want to be superior. But something I think gets missed (understandably, as this is a psychology channel that some people use for self help), is just because you are offended or uncomfortable doesn’t mean someone is a narcissist or that they want to hurt you. It could be that u haven’t communicated your boundaries effectively enough, or you are in fact entering into a group where the humor is understood, and *you* are the only one with an issue. And expecting a whole group to change just to fit your needs to me is the definition of self absorption. To me, saying “this humor=narcissism” is foolish. The correlations don’t necessarily mean all people with that humor style are these dark people, just that mean people would default to those most likely. There’s better litmus tests to give past just labeling someone due to their since of humor. Again, if someone is always getting it wrong, and just trying to upset you, then that’s an indicator. Then of course the age old “they can dish it but can’t take it.” That’s an indicator. Or (when searching for bullying) if the “groups sense of humor” seems to only happen *at* you. But sarcasm, cynicism, irony etc can all be great. I personally use them to express truths or connections, and make fun of the fact that (from my perspective) more lighthearted humor or sincere modes of expression this day in age actually seem incredibly disingenuous, and are attempts to gain material or shallow social benifit. Not to mention, I myself actually worry quite often that I’m getting made fun of, or that people have identified a flaw, so they are trying to do the nice thing with false sincerity, therefore actually making me feel worse that there is pity involved. So basically, within a group of people that understand, or where an explanation is given when not in that group, irony, cynicism, and satire can all be used to say “hey, I’m ripping on you because I know u, maybe u should watch your step, but also I don’t pity you, and think that you can take this shit.” So all in all it’s a sign of respect to me when someone finds some higher level way to rip on me. Most of all, I think if you can identify “everyone is a target,” then it’s a joke in good faith. If the joke teller or critical person seems to be very thin skinned themselves…well…u should do all that u can to expose them as the weak inept person that they are lol.

[@reececaldwell722]

@@nodiggity9472 oh also, (I know this response is a bit extra, but I for a long time have found humor to be a really interesting indicator of people’s dispositions), another indicator someone to me sort of sucks as a person, is when u give very obviously low hanging fruit self deprecating humor, and they swoop in to try to make u feel better. When u weren’t actually distressed. To me that’s an indicator that they are not only socially stupid, but so concerned with appearing as a social savior or superior, that they miss the joke completely and go right for “look how empathetic and helpful I am everyone.”

[@johnnytoronto1066]

WELL DONE! I imagine this was a lot of work!

[@Fullmoonrisingtarot]

That was surprisingly serious information considering the topic

[@sunpathviewer]

Got some clarity reinforcing my humor methods and caution in certain context with my impressionable clients, because I am a clown. Thank you

[@mariaannalikouris4673]

Very interesting, thank you. It reminded me of the psychology of humor course I took in college which I enjoyed a lot.

[@Oturtlegirl51]

Doc, you are brilliant. That was one interesting video.