Hungarian 35M Rifle - A Forgotten Piece of WW2 History

[@maxjenkins5771]

Informative video on a seldom seen rifle. One historical quibble - Hungary did not receive her "independence" in 1920. On the contrary, the Treaty of Trianon gutted Hungary, stripping her of lands historically inhabited and ruled by the Magyar since 800AD. Millions of people were displaced and her lands reduced by half. Hungary was a full partner with Imperial Austria after 1867, and the Empire officially known as the Dual Monarchy, with Franz Josef as Emperor of the Austrians and King of the Magyar. Lots of history there.

[@cvpik2469]

Glad you pointed this out! Most people think of Germany when they think of harsh retribution for starting the war, but Hungary (in my opinion at least) suffered a much more traumatizing defeat. The country lost more than half of its territory, most of its precious resources, and the displacement of millions of Hungarians is still a very controversial issue which is a source of political tension with neighbouring states. Hungary also went through the greatest hyperinflation ever recorded in history after the second World War. In general, Hungarian history is a melancholic one, pepperred with a great deal of suffering, injustice, and struggle for sovereignty (which remains the case to this day). On the bright side of things, it's a country with a noble and old military tradition, the fruits of which include this wonderful rifle. My grandfather started his military service with one like this when he was conscripted at the age of 16 in 1943. He told me that once he was promoted to corporal he was issued the much coveted Kiraly SMG.

[@woff1959]

OUCH! 'Got their independence'. Now that's a slap in the face. Still, despite that, it's an interesting video.

[@belanyiarnold3831]

A magyarok mint én mi kar 98 k használtunk meg mp 40-est.

[@chriswanger284]

Hungary lost 72% of its former territory.

[@davidsolyom5604]

@@belanyiarnold3831 A németek nem voltak annyira nagylelkűek, hogy adjanak ilyeneket nekünk.

[@hmsyndig7577]

A thumbs up for the Hungarian pronunciation and the beautiful rifle ;-)

[@ninaakari5181]

There are too little information found over hungarian ww2 weapons in the KZbin. Even more rare are romanian weapons of ww2. Good job! I wonder how hungarian bolt action rifles compares with other bolt actions of the era

[@eclips007]

4:58 THUG LIFE

[@tedarcher9120]

Truly one of the best bolt-actions

[@General.Longstreet]

Excellent video. Ian from forgotten weapons has got a worthy rival!

[@andrasnepijak1020]

Arnold hozászolásra. A németek nem pótolták a magyaroknak a 98mausert. A magyarok gyártottak a németeknek 98/40 -es mausert. Ami magyar fejlesztés volt, ez lett a 43m puska. Mert a HM negyvenháromban állította hadrendbe. Üdv András

[@tak-cc3em]

I just inherited one of these recently, any idea on values for a working one in pretty good condition, not as clean as yours but definitely well kept. 1938 35M

[@1982asd]

Unfortunately, the weapon fired only 8 × 56 mm lead ammunition, which was obsolete compared to the German Mauser 7.92 × 57 mm FMJ rifles. They were also made from the Hungarian 35m for export to the Third Reich under the name Gewehr 98/40 but in a different caliber and already fired the German 7.92 × 57 mm FMJ ammunition The German version of the Hungarian 35m rifle was used to fire 7.92 × 57 mm FMJ ammunition at the Royal Hungarian Army from 1943 under the name 43M. What is a rarity among Hungarian WWII weapons is the Danuvia 43M submachine gun aka "Király géppisztoly" (King submachinegun) and its predecessor the Danuvia 39M submachine gun You may be able to find a few of them abroad, but even in Hungary it is a difficult task to find one of these two submachine guns.and there is a serious price to pay for an original Danuvia 43M submachine gun kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIi0d6eIfslra7c

[@Justin-rv7oy]

8x56R was quite a good round and quite modern (going into service around 1930), not quite up thier with the 8mm mauser stats wise, but comparable enough to not rechamber it if it wasn't for logistical reasons.

[@Sabartoasfaloi]

Honnan vetted azt a baromságot hogy sima ólomlövedéket lött a a 8x 56r? Teljes acél köpenyes ólommagvas töltény volt a standard

[@waifuracer6516]

When the clip fell out I had an M1 garand flashback :D

[@BigSlanko]

Lovely rifle.

[@tavish4699]

the hungarians were the only real ally the germans had also i realy like the fact the clip falls out on the last round its a nice indicator ^^

[@TheLehi5]

its also make a "ping"

[@zoltancsikos5604]

I would say the Germans had multiple like Japan and Finland (not part of the Axis though).

[@jodyglover2780]

Hello, thanks for your video. We are making a documentary that involves 3 Hungarian soldiers. Looking for 35M rifles with bayonets.This is a long shot and would depend on many factors. Would you be interested in renting yours to us? We are based near Toronto Ontario Canada.

[@AK0SKA]

My understanding is that in Europe the "gun" is the barrel, and not the receiver. Therefore it is not uncommon not to have serial numbers on the receiver. Check for serial number on the barrel and see if it matches the butt plate.

[@MilsurpWorld]

I checked with the action out of the stock, no serials on the barrel or any other part.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

The gun is any pressure bearing part, so breach bolt and barrel. But hungarians disnt stamp every part they made in the 30s.

[@MilsurpWorld]

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 I don't know if you mean technically or legally but in the US only the receiver is legally a firearm. I know that's different in Europe though.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

+North Florida Gun Guy I meant specifically Hungary, as that is whrre the gun is from.

[@MilsurpWorld]

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 In the US guns made before 1968 don't need serial numbers so there is no problem with it here.

[@kagkag1325]

Love your videos NFGG! Keep it up.

[@karamelles98]

Very informative, thanks!

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Wow! Too bad ammo is going to be hard to find in this original form.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

I believe russian surplus can be easily converted to work in rifles firing 8x56R.

[@JackpotWin.902]

Hello. Good video. From Hungary! :)-

[@davidabrams1]

Nice. how much one is? Who might know?. With front sight loop

[@ACL84Fla]

I have a 35M. It has a crack in the buttstock where the lower screw goes in the buttplate. Probably about 3" long. Any recommendations on what to do about it? Try to repair? Leave it alone. Since these are pretty uncommon I do not want to ruin the rifle or detract from the value but I would also love not having a crack in the buttstock...

[@MilsurpWorld]

Once wood is cracked, there isnt a way to un-crack it. The main thing is to repair it in a way to make the crack less noticeable and stop it from cracking more.

[@jodyglover2780]

Hi, this is a long shot. I'm working on a WW2 film and am looking for 35M Hungarian rifles. Any interest in renting yours? Would also depend on where you are based? I am near Toronto Ontario Canada.

[@philipfreeman72]

Is it 6.5 mm I had a Swede .

[@elekesmaria1520]

Like aki magyar

[@earlnovero8208]

Wow

[@belanyiarnold3831]

Ebből elég kevés készül de a németek pótolták minket kar 98 val és mp 40 es géppuskával

[@andrasnepijak1020]

A második világháborúban a magyar hadsereg 35 m Mannlicherrel volt felszerelve. A 43m Mausert főleg a németeknek gyártotta a FÉG . Üdv András

[@dt-4535]

1. thanks NFGG

[@ivancsontos7011]

i read somewhere that the 8x56mmr is the exact same diameter as .303 british, you should see if this holds true and if both rounds can be fired from the opposite chamber and compare the results

[@brendanweller3348]

8x56r is .330 diameter. It would probably keyhole like crazy.

[@windogendoors7566]

I would not. I fired .303 blanks through an 8x56r chamber and it results in case splitting. Can't imagine an actual cartridge.

[@ivancsontos7011]

@@windogendoors7566 cheers

[@Franky46Boy]

6.5 mm ?

[@Sabartoasfaloi]

8x56R

[@xjawzzzz11]

@@Sabartoasfaloi 8x57js

[@Sabartoasfaloi]

@@xjawzzzz11 nem, 8x56R, a 43m volt 8 x57

[@editkoplanyi7132]

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[@viktordragovich94]

Hungarian troops was more cruel than german ss on the South of USSR , more like baltic ss troops.

[@zoltancsikos5604]

Nonsense. Where did you get this idea from? I've been on a website which showed the Hungarians with the civilians in the USSR. When Hungary recovered what is now part of Western Ukraine, many Slavic people (mostly Rusyns) chose to support the Hungarians. It just doesn't align with what you claim. Meanwhile, many know about the socialist terrorists under Tito. Many know about the socialist terrorists in the USSR. Perhaps you're mistaking them with civilians.

[@viktordragovich94]

@@zoltancsikos5604 I'm talking about the population of Eastern Ukraine, southern Russia, and there the Hungarians were worse than the SS in these territories. Therefore, when the battles were going on there, the command allowed not to take Hungarians as prisoners of war, but simply kill them, and before that this was only possible with the SS.

[@viktordragovich94]

​@@zoltancsikos5604a good indicator is that KZbin removes any links to sources

[@user-sb8jh8rq8w]

​@@viktordragovich94 same

[@user-sb8jh8rq8w]

​@@zoltancsikos5604I don’t see my comments (most likely KZbin deleted them), where I provided links, if you want, I can even send you a screenshot and links to sources by email

[@Spitsz01]

Great vid buddy, very interesting and very nice rifle. The Hungarians weren't much use at Stalingrad though..."Run Away!"

[@Dragonman1OOO]

Shut up dude! The Hungarians we're several times outnumbered and out gunned at Stalingrad! Almost the entire 2nd Hungarian Army was lost there! They didn't just "Run Away!"! It was the only choice to survive!

[@rickyjulian5077]

>Germans don't provide Hungarian troops any anti tank equipment to defend the lines >major soviet offensive with heavy tanks which the Hungarians are unable to destroy due to the germans >lmao why did the hungarians lose

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

The Hungarians wernt at Stalingtad at all. They were north holding the river Done against a four times Soviet numerical advantage and a twenty times armour advantage for three weeks with their southern flank exposed before collapsing.

[@katakalsecz6076]

I am Hungarian and I know that (maybe because I studied history at the university) the Royal Hungarian Army had never been at Stalingrad. The Royal Hungarian 2nd Honvéd Army defended the West bank of the River Don, the Don bend. After setting up the Army was transported to the Eastern Front between April and June 1942. In the summer the army fought for to hold the control over the bridgeheads of the West bank of the Don bend at Shchuchye, Korotoyak and Uriv. In the autumn 1942 the army set up the defensive line by the River Don. On 12th January 1943 the Red Army started a huge offensive against the Hungarian Army and the defensive line collapsed, the Royal Hungarian 2nd Honvéd Army was destroyed. The Army consisted of 207 thousand soldiers and about 60 thousand died and another 60 thousand became PW and disappeared. The Army had to defend 200 km long frontline, so the defensive line was not deep enough. It was one of the greatest 20th century tragedies of the Hungarian nation. After ww2 the communists executed and imprisoned many soldiers and officers.

[@samueltoldy4082]

My great grandfather was captured at the Don. He barely survived and came back weighing 63lbs.