Some explanation/translation: -the Z=zárt which means closed -the E=egyes which means single -the S=sorozat which means sequence, full auto The hungarian designation works like this: -number is the year of putting to service -M=minta which means (in this case) sample or model -everything else is further description of the weapon (for example D=desszant-desant/paratrooper)
@dionphinchcliffe6 жыл бұрын
did you just use the word witch as in a witch that casts spells improperly, 4 times? lol
@kopocsmarci6 жыл бұрын
Was about to write the same, thank you though!
@oribuo87156 жыл бұрын
Wich*
@a_Minion_of_Soros6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Z gave me a puzzle. Köszi!
@JM-iu7qx5 жыл бұрын
"Put it in H!"
@duffywolves7 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian, I found this very interesting, I learned a lot from our old weapon. cool channel!
@ForgottenWeapons7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bot2k64 жыл бұрын
me too (im Hungarian too)
@magyarharcos714 жыл бұрын
Ez a világ leggyönyörűbb géppisztolya az tuti. 🇭🇺🇭🇺
@hildebrand1424 жыл бұрын
(hi duffywolves et al !!) not hungarian (alaskan?), but also found this more interesting than the average WWII subbie. just a little different mechanically, plus the political/historical information was really fun. thanks ian, and hello to all firearms enthusiasts!!!
@zsoltberces33783 жыл бұрын
Another description about this SMG (in Hungarian only). kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXzEaH-Xqax8e68
@TheBravocom7 жыл бұрын
My country have so few firearms, which are worth mentioning, so im really glad you have decided to make this video. Thank you!
@TheBravocom7 жыл бұрын
right, I meant like that :)
@TheBravocom7 жыл бұрын
right, I meant like that :)
@random_estonian53567 жыл бұрын
Atleast you have made your own tanks, Estonia is not able to, we have made our own guns tho.
@xmm-cf5eg7 жыл бұрын
Everybody has a cool gun at some point or another, AMD rifles are still pretty neat!
@iansmith89446 жыл бұрын
Mark Penhall you don’t know what your talking about.
@theodoreroosevelt31437 жыл бұрын
"When your favourite gun is MP5 but you love ww2 guns as well"
@tlshortyshorty58105 жыл бұрын
Tomek Inn More like a UMP45.
@odizzido5 жыл бұрын
@@tlshortyshorty5810 The UMP45 seems like the opposite direction, a larger but slower round. These are higher velocity.
@jakartagamer61885 жыл бұрын
bruh make the gun black then people can mistakenly recognise that as a MP5
@ih71685 жыл бұрын
What a weird thing to love... You love war... obviously never been in a gun fight in your life.
@jakartagamer61885 жыл бұрын
@@ih7168 have you?
@Baalaaxa4 жыл бұрын
Wow, a folding stock _and_ a folding magazine, overpowered SMG with lever-delayed blowback action, that was apparently well-liked and functional firearm. And a bayonet to boot. That's really innovative. Why have I never heard of this weapon before? Interesting Hungarian engineering, greets from Finland.
@bruensal71825 жыл бұрын
Anyone: Hey Király, are you building an SMG, an Assault Rifle, a Battle Rifle or a Semi Auto Rifle? Kiraly: *YES*
@zeusz32374 жыл бұрын
Just for correction, his name was "Király", means king. Just if it wasn't directly wrote like this.
@bruensal71824 жыл бұрын
@@zeusz3237 lol, kral in Turkish means king too Btw corrected it now
@yencehungarian4 жыл бұрын
@@bruensal7182 Old hungarian : "kiral" (volkssprechen). Türki 1400-1500-1600 years in Hungary invasion and agression! So wie "Sowiet" am 1945-1990. 😢
@bruensal71824 жыл бұрын
@@yencehungarian you have to use proper english if you want to have a real conversation. Stop opening your mouth, just so shit can flow out, but speak properly
@yencehungarian4 жыл бұрын
@@bruensal7182 I dont speak english, sorry. And türki auch nicht. ☝️
@indramatic7 жыл бұрын
Apparently I found some parts of this gun in a forest nearby Kiev when I was 13 years old. I didn't have a magazine and a stock and all the wood parts disintegrated after 40 years. but I recognize a bolt with a lever. I remembered it well because I've never seen anything like this in Soviet or German sub-machine guns and I unsuccessfully tried to figure out what caliber it was, because 9mm Luger was too short.
@mikemike69087 жыл бұрын
that's really interesting. A lot of history there.
@indramatic7 жыл бұрын
Yes. I used to live in an area which was the part of heavily equipped defense line, protecting Kiev. During WWII a lot of fights took place there. You can still find a whole German tank or plane somewhere in a swamp.
@clone3_76 жыл бұрын
Were you not afraid of stepping on mines?
@akurvaanyadat4 жыл бұрын
@@clone3_7 I believe 90% of those are now not working
@hildebrand1424 жыл бұрын
@@akurvaanyadat er . . . that's still 10% which are . . . not inert. careful there my friend!
@marekmagdziak59164 жыл бұрын
I'm simple Polish, I see Hungarian, I give like.
@berci044 жыл бұрын
Lengyel magyar két jó barát ❤️❤️
@MrLipgut4 жыл бұрын
Polak, Wegier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki. Lengyel, Magyar két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát.
@szilveszterkernya42094 жыл бұрын
What a nice guy!
@harrywisniewski50174 жыл бұрын
Marek Magdziak I’m polish and Hungarian, I give 2 likes
@mate53474 жыл бұрын
Lengyel Magyar mint két barát
@BoschhammerActual7 жыл бұрын
*"Oh crap, there's like, a big war, and we're gunna need a lot of guns."*
@egoalter12767 жыл бұрын
Hungary was adamant on staying the hell out of it. Then the germans side we either attack yugoslavia, who we just got done signing a cooperation agreement with, or they invade. Populus was wildly anty semitic, and nazism was popular, but not on power. The prime minister ended up commiting suicide, and his predecessor decided to jump off the slippery slope, steamroll Yugoslavia, engineer a false attack on a civilian target, then completley unnecessearly declare war on all the Allied nations.
@vicePVic5 жыл бұрын
@Ego Alter bro that is not entirely true... we were ready to jump into the war to get back our monarchial territories ripped from us
@bryanmartinez66005 жыл бұрын
Confusion in translation did you say big gun and a lot of war?
@Lajos_Kelemen4 жыл бұрын
@@vicePVic Which didn't work out of course. Gotta say though, I think joining the Axis was inevitable, maybe I just want to think it wasn't completely voluntary, but I don't know. We were in a pretty shitty position nontheless, from the west the nazis and from the east the commies, sooner or later one of them would've trampeled through us, and in the end both did.
@marcinmisiek7684 жыл бұрын
@@Lajos_Kelemen Well, at least you weren't alone with this sort of situation.
@eshinnightrunner62905 жыл бұрын
kiraly means king in hungarian, which sounds fitting for this beast of a submachine gun
@TheGameKing01007 жыл бұрын
Yes, finally I see this gun on the channel! As a Hungarian I was waiting for this so long because I only saw this weapon on pictures and in a museum once, so it's great to see these little features like the the folding magazine. Thanks for the video!
@profusghj7 жыл бұрын
De ezt nem a bojlergyárban gyártották :D Ehhöm, FÉG AMD-63
@TheGameKing01007 жыл бұрын
Kéne már a honvédségnek pár automata roham bojler :D
@rlbadger16987 жыл бұрын
Hey Hun, do you know if there was a solid stock version? Like the 39M.
@TheGameKing01007 жыл бұрын
Apart from the 39M I never seen one :/
@flyingninja12347 жыл бұрын
HUNteRecon - You should definitely watch some of the other videos on this channel, if you haven't. They're very well done.
@longboi85407 жыл бұрын
Man the hungarians really make some pretty cool shit. They make DAMN good AK's believe it or not.
@sebessegesadrenalin6 жыл бұрын
search for gepard gm1 and gm6 lynx it works same ammo with mi24hind cannon
@freppie_5 жыл бұрын
@@sebessegesadrenalin do not search this!!! Every fkn vid has annyoing music rambling thru your speakers. Be warned!
@darrenp4285 жыл бұрын
Ryan Towey I’ve heard that but haven’t had the privilege of handling one yet. Have you???
@kachikii20894 жыл бұрын
Bizony :3
@demogaming88954 жыл бұрын
We just don't make good shit anymore, for some reason
@trycoldman23587 жыл бұрын
Mp40 and SkS had a baby, congratulations!
@jvanasselberg6 жыл бұрын
trycoldman23 it kinda looks like that, huh?
@doctorlunarous57476 жыл бұрын
Its a love child.
@SomeOne-ns7eu6 жыл бұрын
We will take the case to Maury - he'll hind the daddy for sure.
@toyube956 жыл бұрын
Yeah like a mp40/m1 carbine hybrid
@theminnesotan5926 жыл бұрын
I thought it was an MP5 and M1 Garand mix at first.
@krokikrisi4 жыл бұрын
"There's isn't a whole lot of them here in the United States..." Yeah... Guess what? There's isn't a whole lot of them in Hungary either xD
@sikertsok2253 жыл бұрын
Ha szeretnél látni egy pár szépet akkor nézz be a Hadtörténeti múzeumba. Nagyon szép darabok vannak ott.
@krokikrisi3 жыл бұрын
@@sikertsok225 Láttam őket jópárszor
@sikertsok2253 жыл бұрын
@@krokikrisi Én konkrétan onnan jövök. Még kérdés nélkül szétszedtem az AK talán 63F-et. A fa tusos verzió kapaszkodóval.
@35920907 жыл бұрын
A bayonet on an SMG?! (heavy breathing in Japanese)
@saltdetected17567 жыл бұрын
v e r y *_H O N O R A B L E_*
@scottishconfederate7 жыл бұрын
The Italian MAB-38A took a bayonet as well. Mine still has the lug, I got a reproduction bayonet for it though.
@tonlito227 жыл бұрын
When your SMG is this big and basically an assault rifle, then why not?
@shermonruler7 жыл бұрын
the british lanchester also had a bayonet lug
@ЕвгенийМакаров-в6л7 жыл бұрын
Pistol on photo is not shooting - it's just an exotic grip for sword, the shank of the blade fits right to magazine well. Also you can see on photo, that it doesn't have trigger guard assemblym trigger itself and bolt. It's just custom of one officer. And brits produced revolvers with bayonets seriously - img.fireden.net/vg/image/1438/68/1438689790114.jpg
@genericname82845 жыл бұрын
The letters on the fire selector are for: Z: "zárt", safe E: "egy", single S: "sorozat", auto Designer's hungarian name: "Király Pál"
@5anjuro7 жыл бұрын
the potential candidate list for "the very first assault rifle" just keeps expanding.
@EASY73567 жыл бұрын
SMG Pistol Cartridge or scaled up pistol cartridge Assault Rifle scaled down Rifle Cartridge Battle Rifle same as Assault Rifle but with full Size Rifle Cartridge PDW Rifle Cartridge scaled down to the Size of a Pistol Cartridge (and also the most useless shit ever) So no it's not a "First Assault Rifle" candidate there is only one first assault Rifle the Mkb 42
@-Seeker-7 жыл бұрын
PDW cartridges are extremely useful. The standard SMGs do not have the necessary capabilities to penetrate body armor. The PDW cartridges have this attribute and can be used in compact sized weapons. (P90, MP7)
@EASY73567 жыл бұрын
***** I know what they are supposed to do but they don't have the stopping Power of a pistol round which is heavier That's why basically everybody is still using the MP 5 despite the PDW concept beeing developed in the 80s and the P90 beeing available for already 25 Years and the MP 7 for 15
@-Seeker-7 жыл бұрын
If your target has body armor you're fucked with the MP5. P90 is widely used anyway, just not adopted because germans are salty.
@EASY73567 жыл бұрын
***** First of all Germany wasn't salty they wanted to sell guns, Weapons are a buisness and HK wouldn't Profit from FN selling P90's But yes the MP 7 round is a little bit weaker (380ft/lb vs ~350ft/lb) both defeat the Crisat standard at over 200m tho Secondly if i HAD to chose a PDW Cartridge it would be the 6x35mm from Knights Armament which has roughly double the amount of Energy than the P90 round (380ft/lb vs 850ft/lb) That is in my opinion the best compromise of PDW Penetration and SMG/Carbine stopping Power at the Moment BUT the Problem with the KAC PDW is there exists no Pistol with the same Cartridge which is in my opinion the only benefit of the P90/Five-Seven (besides the 50 Round Magazine of the P90)
@rajeshpaleth86645 жыл бұрын
Just love the way Ian makes sure to give us "metric" folks (almost the whole world) our due - that's why an Indian in Cambodia is in love with your vids!
@RejectedRecords19984 жыл бұрын
What does it matter that most of the world uses one system over the other? The vast majority of the English-speaking world (the large majority of his audience) is familiar with both, and imperial units simply make more sense for day-to-day use. Metric is better for extremely precise measurements but it's just as arbitrary as any other measurement system.
@misteryman51097 жыл бұрын
Hey Gun Jesus! Many thanks for covering this firearm.I was waiting for your review on it for ages. I would like to add a few points. The folded magazines were implemented more for concealment than for ease of transportation, also the bayonet was available for the same reason too. The idea was if the magazine is folded and the bayonet is attached the firearm looked more like a carbine rifle and not a smg. So for an external observer the real fighting potential is hidden until the firearm is not being used. Also the markings: Z-Zart (Locked) E-Egyes Loves (One/Single Shot) F-Folyamatos Loves (Continuous Shooting)
@bencejuhasz64597 жыл бұрын
S van a fegyveren,nem F :)
@adamspencer59017 жыл бұрын
that has to be one of the nicest looking bayonets i have ever seen
@tiborpurzsas54656 жыл бұрын
Adam Spencer imagine how nice it loox sticking out of your ass!
@ThatGezaDude6 жыл бұрын
Micsoda intelligens komment, Magyarország büszke lehet rád
@zsolttalloczy52224 жыл бұрын
Yes, interesting bayonet indeed! Beautiful but a bit heavy compared to the shorter and more agile one similar to the one used on the Mauser. Had both when growing up back in Hungary
@Taistelukalkkuna7 жыл бұрын
Looks bit like Mini-14 having identity crisis.
@Taistelukalkkuna7 жыл бұрын
Did you just assume my caliber?
@salvador09197 жыл бұрын
Taistelukalkkuna a pistol caliber mini 14 would be cool
@thedamnyankee17 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, "mini" Is size normative. The correct term is "Alternatively Sized 14"
@BoZoiD577 жыл бұрын
'Member back when there were only rifles and pistols, I 'member...
@ngarewyrd7 жыл бұрын
Pepperidge farms Remembers
@EMBERVAS5 жыл бұрын
I'm Hungarian and didn't even heard about this weapon, thank you for this great vid. Very informative. Would be nice to see a video about any generation of the "Gepárd" anti material rifle as well. That's a great weapon, also Hungarian made 🙂
@vapeyourfeelings39095 жыл бұрын
Same here :)
@mvaczulin7 жыл бұрын
I have read somewhere that it was intended to look like an normal battle rifle, because soviet snipers took out the guys with the submachineguns first. This could be the reason for the bulkiness and the folding magazine.
@mikemike69087 жыл бұрын
the designer worked at sig who created a very similar gun to this with similar features and the the designer (király) also based it off the Italian model 38 which is also very similar in looks and features.
@Darkxculo5 жыл бұрын
mvaczulin that actually makes a lot of sense. Ive never tought of it.
@VorpalDerringer5 жыл бұрын
Considering the Soviets made a flamethrower that they attempted to make look like a normal backpack and Mosin rifle, that's interesting.
@pedrojioia5 жыл бұрын
I dont think this makes much sense. I dont think snipers were very aware of who had which gun, and even if they did they wouldn't be picking who to shoot first. Plus, that doesn't solve any problems for the army, if there are no submachine gunners, the snipers would just shoot the next person.
@zeburancher94805 жыл бұрын
@@pedrojioia I agree, it doesnt make sense. Even if they shot the guy with the submachine gun, someone else would just pick it up.
@Krissssz6 жыл бұрын
Nagyon király
@istvanbarath63335 жыл бұрын
Badum tsss
@magyarharcos714 жыл бұрын
Látom vannak még itt magyarok
@norbertvarga12104 жыл бұрын
Utállak.. xd
@magyarharcos714 жыл бұрын
@@norbertvarga1210 ???
@first1.4 жыл бұрын
@@norbertvarga1210 engem mindenki utál :,( ( csak vicc)
@rogerwennstrom66777 жыл бұрын
Quite big that thing! For some reason I picture Crocodile Dundee: "that's not a sub-machine gun... _that's_ a sub-machine gun" :) Quite cool lever-delayed action! Bit complex for a sub-machine gun, but quite simple compared to many other delaying variants.
@egoalter12767 жыл бұрын
Well simple blowback will always be the cheapest to make, but three machined moving parts and two pins is not that bad either.
@Woodstock3206 жыл бұрын
S for "Sorozat tüzelés" (automatic fire) E for "Egyes tüzelés" (semi automatic or single shot) Z for "Zár" (safety or closed) in hungarian :) THX for the video it was a plesaure to watch as a Hungarian :)
@Librislt7 жыл бұрын
Ian: "This gun actually has a folding magazine." Me: "Wait, whut?"
@nick08754 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many feeding problems that caused when troops had to fold the magazine back in place in order to fire.
@hoppinggnomethe41544 жыл бұрын
MAS-38, MAT-49, and Hotchkiss Universal want your attention.
@nicmanza46573 жыл бұрын
2:20 seems pretty obvious if you watch the video at all
@LittleBombbuilder4 жыл бұрын
Wow , the folding Magazin is amazing . Greetings to Hungary from Germany
@unimatrixdefy7 жыл бұрын
The fire selector letters stand for Z: Zárt (Closed) 1: Egyes lövés (Single Shot, literarily "one shots") S: Sorozatlövés (Automatic fire, literarily "series of shots")
@falloszxdd6 жыл бұрын
Viktor P. Kovács literally*
@LJVolkov216 жыл бұрын
So, "single love" and "lots of love"? :) No offense, it just sounds funny. But you truly do have a fascinating language. Would love to learn more of it.
@georgekovacs42785 жыл бұрын
"Soros" means to multiply? My best Magyar is "Nagyon Szegeny"! Koszonom Viktor!
@texteel5 жыл бұрын
@@georgekovacs4278 I am having trouble finding where you seen "soros" in this video's context?
@berkenyefa2 жыл бұрын
@@georgekovacs4278 "Sor" means row, line, or queue. "Soros" means the next person in the queue, or the next thing to deal with, or something like that. "Ki a soros?": "Who is in line?" However, if you think of George Soros, he and his father were fans for Esperanto, and this name comes from that language. "Sori": to fly, "soros": future tense, "will fly".
@Frantic1346 жыл бұрын
The folding magazine most important job was to hide officers from the enemy snipers. Smg's were mostly used by officers or high ranked soldiers so snipers can easily detect them by the long straight magazine. However if you fold the magazine, this weapon kinda looks like a rifle and if i remember correctly there are variations of this smg with rifle stock.
@IonoTheFanatics7 жыл бұрын
thank you for the metric as well, it was much appreciated as i always had to convert the stats every time in other videos to metric to make sense of the scale
@BigBoss-sm9xj7 жыл бұрын
Iono Sama not american?
@olivialambert41247 жыл бұрын
That gun looks fucking awesome. I mean overengineered as hell especially with WW2 looming but it seems to fit a perfect role for the M1 Carbine - a modern PDW style gun. Except its also an SMG, but with slightly more range. I genuinely believe if either of the two major sides fielded this gun exclusively they would have done far better than the Enfield or the Kar98. Outdated as soon as intermediate cartridges came in and whilst it would have done well with the M1 Carbine cartridge its still a short lived life, but for pre-WW2 it looks absolutely amazing. the overengineered folding mechanism looks great for things like tankers, artillery, as well as Commandos and Paras, though I doubt you could really argue for its inclusion when the STEN didn't even bother with left or right hand guard/grip.
@kieronwheeler30877 жыл бұрын
Olivia Lambert You seem to forget; Lee Enfield and Mauser rifles are still in service today, many other firearms of a similar age are not. They were not outdated at all, a skilled rifleman could fire quickly and accurately, at ranges at which a sub-caliber firearm could not manage, using 7.92/.303 bolt action rifles (look up the "mad minute" if you need proof). The intermediate cartridge never really had the stopping power of a 7.92 or a .303 and therefore lacked range, if either coalition of WWII used the 43M exclusively then the other side would simply have used marksmen/snipers/sharpshooters to win the war. Wars are not just about technology, they are about the combination of different classes of weapon and their application. And besides; Lee Enfield no 5 "jungle carbines" were issued to paratroopers after the war along with STEN guns.
@Tilnaor7 жыл бұрын
Actually the folding mechanism was invented for the paras. The original 39M version has only the foldable magazine to disguise the user as a rifleman. The Király gun was used even after the war for a few years till the political reason didn't win and the entire army was served with Soviet weapons
@jackiesingleton23516 жыл бұрын
Olivia Lambert,,,,, There are a lot of things that the Sten gun "didn't bother with"! Like a freakin safety! They were notorious for emptying the entire magazine if dropped, or even bumped! "Drop your weapons!" Dude drops his Sten and it fires an entire magazine killing everyone in the room! That thing has to be near the top of the list of worst weapons ever fielded by a major military. P
@justiceforjoggers28976 жыл бұрын
Mike Benko A T-34's combat life expectancy was about three weeks, with at most six months of operational use period. It was made for numbers more than it was for actually being useful. 30 T-34s against say, twelve Panzers suddenly gives the Germans a problem
@awesomeadajuhovaaa5236 жыл бұрын
and its armor, and its pretty decent speed for a heavy tank
@MatJan867 жыл бұрын
That folding magazine 😍
@rlbadger16987 жыл бұрын
YES!
@randomstranger_37 жыл бұрын
It looks BEAUTIFUL!
@owo58697 жыл бұрын
Fabulous
@szellem38237 жыл бұрын
its awesome
@dretax147 жыл бұрын
I am Hungarian and I didn't know It could do that XD
@Ws_minion7 жыл бұрын
probably the coolest gun youve found in a very long time, it's got everything!!
@travismcclellan34134 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of 9x25. Like a 38 super magnum. So much potential in unusual cartridges like this if they were charged in the right modern firearm.
@zsolttalloczy52227 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was praised by my granddad serving on the Eastern Front...
@Murgablodazor695 жыл бұрын
One of my great grandfathers went to the Don river and a párt of his foot was frozen off The other one got injured, he made it home, got well and didnt want to go to war, so he would hide in the house, and my great grandmother would tell the people who came for him, that he is not there. The reason 2nd story is longer, is because i personally know the house and used to know my great grandmother (she died in 2013 she was 94 years old, but still did everything like a 20 year old) Btw i am Hungarian for those who dont understand my profile name
@louiswilkins96245 жыл бұрын
@@Murgablodazor69 Cool
@Ang3lUki7 жыл бұрын
That's a neat little kit. I like the design, it almost feels like the predecessor to the tacti-cool movement with the compact folding design.
@inancgungor46244 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Turkey to all Magyarok
@texacalifornia15127 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I love seeing Hungarian weapons and was irrationally excited when I saw the thumbnail lol
@soupenjoyer61735 жыл бұрын
"what size stock do you want for the new smg?" *N O*
@notgraham.72153 жыл бұрын
Builder: what stock do you want on the new smg? Designer: sub who? Ya mean the automatic pistol I invented? Builder: ?the automatic pisto... whatever. I'll just wing it.
@iainmackenzie63797 жыл бұрын
what excellent engineering.
@rickc21025 жыл бұрын
Alles Schwiezer isch guet, u gibt e guete Lüüne!
@hunormagyar18435 жыл бұрын
@Hermann the antisemetic DUCKY!!! ...whose grandpa got shot by it. Ew...
@someonetgg4 жыл бұрын
TE BOLLOOOND!! MAGYAR TEKNOLÓGIA A LEGJOBB A VILÁGBAN!
@devinhallsworth55314 жыл бұрын
Guns are a really fascinating topic of engineering to study, you get so much accomplished with just a clever arrangement of springs and levers.
@stansmith76307 жыл бұрын
There is something beautiful about ww2 bayonets.
@Terabit37 жыл бұрын
I agree. And bayonets in general. I wish more modern guns came with bayonet lugs
@laviliterthefirst7 жыл бұрын
What an elegant way of making it delay. I really like the bolt system on this gun.
@nicoby3097 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a cool weapon. The lever delayed blowback system is nifty
@jamesbmcferron79145 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the close-up camera work in this entire series...very interesting to see weapons I've always wondered about, in this up close fashion.. thanks!
@siestatime46387 жыл бұрын
There was an American beach volleyballer named Karch Kiraly. He pronounced it "keer-EYE".
@themitri56433 жыл бұрын
he didnt know his own name?
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan3 жыл бұрын
@@themitri5643 No. He did. That is how it is pronounced. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kir%C3%A1ly
@zsoltbalazs97286 жыл бұрын
I am hungarian and gun lover. Thanks for the great upload!
@thatevlcanadian7 жыл бұрын
Although I could be wrong, I think Hungary had weapon production restrictions put on them from WW1 that limited their armament capabilities, so that may be why the government "hesitated" on the gun order.
@egoalter12767 жыл бұрын
By 39 we were building medium tanks and high performance fightercraft, so I dont think they worried too mutch about the restrictions at that point.
@gaborzer7 жыл бұрын
"medium tanks" yeah, awful light tanks
@egoalter12767 жыл бұрын
In light of the fact that no armour was permitted by the peace treaty at all, I believe my point stands.
@till96527 жыл бұрын
hmmm! The Tas was one of the best tanks in ww2
@egoalter12767 жыл бұрын
Correction. Would have been had it actually been produced. The prototypes got bombed.
@skeggi38364 жыл бұрын
man this was the first forgotten weapons video i watched got me hella hooked good to be back
@honorb4glory6066 жыл бұрын
That's a handsome looking SMG with all that wood.
@jonwicker31422 жыл бұрын
I have seen this video no less than a dozen times and every time I see it I fall more and more in love with this particular smg. It chambers an outstandingly powerful cartridge for the time(10 mm auto is to .40 S&W as 9mm export is to 9 mm para.), it has an absolutely brilliant yet simple system of operation, and its compact, space-saving design (folding stock AND magazine) REALLY was ahead of its time in terms of being the forerunner of today's assault rifle.
@Ukkeli5237 жыл бұрын
I'm very thankful that you have bothered to translate units to metric system too. Keep up great work! edit:''I very--'' --> ''I'm very--''
@theawesomesausage7 жыл бұрын
how adorable, you actually documented what you edited.
@moonrazk7 жыл бұрын
I'm always nodding when he says these pretending I have any idea what these numbers really represent.
@wierdalien17 жыл бұрын
wood1155 why is it cringy? its cringy talking about grains.
@Zbyhonj7 жыл бұрын
wood1155 Ok but why grams? That is quite oddly specific. Not to say I don't have similar feelings about some imperial units. I get inches, feet, and even grains to some extent, but friggin footpounds grind my gears... Energy value is something you wont ever need outside of science and engineering, so the fact someone uses feet to measure it is just so irritating :D
@rds9787 жыл бұрын
Grains / Grams are the mass of the bullet, feet / second and meters / second are its velocity. You could calculate the energy from that or just look at some common rounds and use them for comparison. Like modern 9mm NATO rounds are typically 115-grain and something like 1,180 ft/s. The round for this gun is a bit heavier at 128-grain and a bit faster 1475 ft/s. So it hits harder than the comparison round.
@joetaylor4866 жыл бұрын
Like an unholy (not always bad) marriage between a famas and an arse-about M1 carbine 😀 I LIKE it! Outstanding video as ever Ian. You have some of the highest production standards on KZbin as far as I am aware.
@Harckocsi1988newchannel4 жыл бұрын
No video where a shot is made with the gun ? I can't find any video material about it anywhere.
@leonardpearlman40175 жыл бұрын
I like everything about this. My favorite of these videos are ones that are surprisingly simple, as here you just push one button and everything pretty much just falls out, or flies out... This really is a nice looking thing, maybe more expensive and more machined parts than people want this kind of thing to have. It's the engineer in me, there are so many ways to do basically the same thing!
@Th3Grimmi7 жыл бұрын
"Kiraly" means "King" and is basically pronounced like "Kiraay" (long "a") in english
@flyingninja12347 жыл бұрын
Th3Grimmi - Thank you.
@lordovravens7 жыл бұрын
translate.google.com/#auto/en/kir%C3%A1ly
@MrVvulf7 жыл бұрын
I knew the pronunciation thanks to the volleyball player Karch Kiraly en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karch_Kiraly
@horinsinni6 жыл бұрын
Or kerahy
@mihaisarba46685 жыл бұрын
@@MerkurioBuagrec word kir
@Andre839254 жыл бұрын
Thank you for introduce a little piecef of our history! Greetings from Hungary! :)
@keenanmcbreen70733 жыл бұрын
These guns that encroach on the "assault rifle" concept while not looking like one are pretty cool.
@lilwoody47897 жыл бұрын
I would have liked he added the cyclit rate. I do enjoy his videos over all the others on ytube. Ian is by far the most informative and brightest of the gun guys on here. Never condescending or overly bias and even manages to keep his enthusiasm to a minimum. Even when he shot the 75mm cannon. I would have been giggling like a kid on Christmas
@Hebime7 жыл бұрын
39.M 760-780 rounds/min (the prototype had more, 980 rounds/min but it was reduced because of safety reasons and for the SMG to be more durable) 43.M 650-700 rounds/min
@lilwoody47897 жыл бұрын
That's ripping for that powerful of a cartridge. Then again it's fairly heavy
@BodyCounter6 жыл бұрын
And I thought the M1 Garand's Ping was Satisfying... That Magazine folding mechanism is H O T
@enloeeagle72582 жыл бұрын
That's one of the coolest bolts/actions I've seen on this channel!
@keksimus__maximus7 жыл бұрын
That satisfying click of the bayonet *orgasm*. Thanks for making a video about a hungarian gun, loved it! Cheers
@brandonblackfyre5783 Жыл бұрын
I have a video game, that's surprisingly very historically accurate, named *Enlisted* that has a few different big battles that you can play in as a *"campaign"* and its *Free to play!!* this is where I learned that this gun existed and I knew *Ian* had to have a video on it 😂 Honestly if you play video games and love *WWII* then you should try out *Enlisted* on *PC or Console* ... I know this sounds like a random *advertisement* for *Enlisted* but I promise it's not and it's just a genuinely fun and to my surprise *VERY* Historically accurate with tons of cool information about the *"Squads"* you choose that tell you whether it's the *195th Infantry Unit* and gives information about that military unit
@worlddomin6237 жыл бұрын
It'd be a real sticky situation if you ever happened across this gun and didn't know that S on the safety didn't stand for safe.....
@lkedvenc68985 жыл бұрын
But a Hungarian would never miss it. :-) Safety is Biztonság in Hungarian.
@jonathanwilliams43484 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely elegant sub gun! Beautifully designed, thanks, Ian.
@ProtesttheAntagonist7 жыл бұрын
Isn't another bonus of the lever delayed system that it is an out of battery safety? Since the heavy part of the bolt needs to move forward for it to protrude. Really clever setup.
@thobetiin82666 жыл бұрын
It's funny to see that the safety selector has hungarian abbreviations: Z > zárt > closed E > egyesével > one at a time and S > sorozat > burst
Ezt kellett volna 7,92 be megcsinálni, és akkor olyan gépkarabélyunk lett volna, hogy az orosz szibériáig menekül. Nem pisztolylőszerrel kellett volna szarakodni, úgy is karabélyhosszú a csöve.
@pfeifferistvan52723 жыл бұрын
@@magyarharcos71 + Bayonet és beépitett gránátvető (már akkoriban is létezett) és koreáig is menekülnek az oroszok.. Hopsz.. lemaradt a beépitett lángszoró mert kőolaj vagy Napalmal is működik.
@jurijkalasnyikov7 жыл бұрын
Very thank for video!!!!!! Jurij from Hungary
@markd93186 жыл бұрын
Need this in bf5 for medic class
@ncrranger22814 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we wont get it.
@K_Balu4 жыл бұрын
The saddest part is, its not gonna receive anymore update, nor content
@ma5bgaming7793 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity lol
@taborgoth4 жыл бұрын
We call this weapon in urban regions in Hungary: "Bojler eladó". ;) Thank you for this review, great one! Lot of new information, I learned now much.
@vilmoskocsis30647 жыл бұрын
6:11 btw one comment on the foldable magazine: In the Hingarian Army, similarly to others, the footsoldiers had rifles and non-commissioned officers had MP-s. At that time the Hungarian army was mainly meant to serve 'territorial occupation', they were mainly prepared for such scenarios. I'm not sure if it is realy true, but the foldable magazine was to disguise the MP to look like a normal rifle, so that partisan snipers have difficulties to spot the officers (their main targets). Magyarul is: A Magyar Hadseregben akkoriban a közkatonáknak karabély, az altiszteknek pedig géppisztoly 'járt'. Úgy hallottam, hogy azért találták ki ezt a behajtható tárat, mert így távolról puskának nézhette az ellenséges lövész így nehezebben ismerhette fel a tiszteket, akikre vadászott.
@roberthorvath8076 жыл бұрын
legalább a magyarok ne írjanak ide ekkora marhaságokat!!! és még angolul is!!!! a svájci SIG és az olasz Beretta géppisztolyoknál alkalmazták a behajtható tárat a könnyebb málházás/ ejtőernyősök, páncélosok stb/ és a gyorsabb tűzkésszé tétel miatt!!! gépjárművekben 35M puskához meglévő rögzítőkbe be lehessen tenni! ég a pofám ennyi baromságtól, amit ide leírtak a drága honfitársaim!
@ineednochannelyoutube53844 жыл бұрын
@@roberthorvath807 Több helyről hallottam én is ezt a magyarázatot, de korabeli kézikönyvet a danuviáról még nem láttam, úgyhogy nem tudom van e valóságtartalma.
@roberthorvath8074 жыл бұрын
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 behajtott tárral nem lehet vele lőni!! csak tárolásnál van értelme behajtani a tárat!!
@ineednochannelyoutube53844 жыл бұрын
@@roberthorvath807 Vagy őrjáraton, vagy menetben, vagy nagyjából bármikor amikor éppen nem lő vele az ember.
@roberthorvath8074 жыл бұрын
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 ez egy nyitott zárral tüzelő fegyver, rögzített ütőszeggel, tehát nem lehet csőre töltve biztosítva tartani, tehát tüzelés előtt hátra kell húzni a zárat és utána lehet csak lőni! ha még a tárat is ki kell hajtani, akkor már régen agyonlőtték szegény katonát!
@OwenPhillipsMBA2 ай бұрын
That's great, many thanks for your update! Regards, Owen
@MrKataklysm7 жыл бұрын
This is a very rare weapon even in Hungary. I am a hungarian and had some friends who are WW II. reenactors, they never ever seen a Király. You pronounce it like "keerai".
@ravarga4631 Жыл бұрын
Ly is pronounced without y, or somi am topd as i do not speak magyar
@Schni4 жыл бұрын
I like the clever design. Thank you for showing that.
@elpatrico25625 жыл бұрын
There were an other function of the foldable magazine. Since snipers were trained to shoot down the soldiers who have automatic weapons, they could just fold in the magazine an predent like they were a regular rifleman.
@Andre839255 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Greetings from Hungary! :)
@Рэй-н5д7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the numbers! Sincerely yours, "metric folk".
@MisteriosGloriosos9223 жыл бұрын
*Thank you for posting all of your videos. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!*
@S284264 жыл бұрын
"PaL KiRaLiY" I probably just butchered that name That's an understatement
@ru49654 жыл бұрын
how do you pronouce it
@S284264 жыл бұрын
@@ru4965the á sound is like the a in Apple, and the ly in Király is like the y sound in why
@ErikAdalbertvanNagel4 жыл бұрын
@@ru4965 You pronounce it ki-ruy, the ki like in the kiss, the ruy is like when you say guy but replace the G sound with an R. It's because LY is one letter and makes the Y sound, yes you heard it ONE, so you don't put the L and Y sound together. So here you go if you are too lazy to spend 30 sec. on google translate.
@Sandstroem827 жыл бұрын
My absolut favourite youtube channel! Always great videos :)
@flyingninja12347 жыл бұрын
That is a wonderfully designed weapon. Would it be more of a full auto carbine, instead of a submachine gun?
@Tenkai9177 жыл бұрын
I love how "S" is the full auto setting. Folding magazine was a nice touch.
@frankib86207 жыл бұрын
Wall or guns Hungarians know how to build it.
@gregschafer63194 жыл бұрын
Franki B Exactly!!’😅
@Snooopy284 жыл бұрын
Can confirm
@borsosbence56814 жыл бұрын
Except roads😂😂
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan4 жыл бұрын
@@borsosbence5681 the roads between Vámospércs and Debrecen have been the way they were for like a year like come on what's stopping you from sending in more workers to make the road??
@borsosbence56814 жыл бұрын
Srácok nyugi már... Csak vicceltem. Amúgy sem érdekes nekem mert nem vezetek.
@johnhmstr7 жыл бұрын
Very cool forgotten weapon. Keep up the good work Ian.
@USSChicago-pl2fq7 жыл бұрын
3:53 it sounds like they were procrastinating a bit
@TeaAndBullets7 жыл бұрын
DW19945211444 As someone who comes from a Hungarian family I can confirm this to be true.
@Swashbucky6 жыл бұрын
As others mentioned we were bound by Treaty of Trianon to not weaponise and there was not much fighting in Hungary up to 1944. In 1942-43 200k soldiers went to fight the Russians which would explain the sudden need too.
@Sabrowsky7 жыл бұрын
holy crap this thing was pretty ahead of its time
@talesofshatou7 жыл бұрын
That's an extremely cool bolt.
@rickautry27596 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful bolt system. Strangely, after seeing this a while back, I saw a Hungarian WW2 movie called 'Dear Elza', and there were a few 39M's to be seen, and it was interesting to see them in context. Hope ya like subtitles! It was a fantastic movie.
@dndl.3.335 жыл бұрын
What a cool weapon. I wonder what a modernized version of this thing would look like, and if it would be viable today.
@nicholasmaugeri7595 жыл бұрын
once again, a weapon that I had no clue about. Thank you for posting!
@piotraria68097 жыл бұрын
Nice i've just saw one in Budapest on holiday one week ago.
@Darth-Nihilus16 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, the lever delay system in this looks simple and disassembly looks to be easy.
@IAmStillNotMatthew7 жыл бұрын
Yes, you messed up his surname a bit, the last two letters, "ly" is the letter "j", we hungarians use both "ly" and "j" as the letter "j", you pronounce that letter as the letter "y" in a word like.. "yes".. Király actually means King. Note on the M letters after the numbers, 43M means 43-as Mintájú(Pattern 43).
@balint66397 жыл бұрын
Te is agyar vagy? :D
@balint66397 жыл бұрын
*m
@ZGryphon7 жыл бұрын
Weirdly, I knew that because of how sportscasters used to pronounce the name of Karch Kiraly, the volleyball player.
@IAmStillNotMatthew7 жыл бұрын
Nem, én egy szovjet kém vagyok akit megtanítottak magyarul, de nem mondták el, hogy a hidegháborúnak és a Szovjetuniónak vége. Persze, hogy magyar vagyok.
@balint66397 жыл бұрын
IAmNotMatthew köszönöm szépen ezt a roppant furfangos ám lényegre törő választ
@Kriszx64 жыл бұрын
My country made few guns to be worth mentioning, but this was really significant. Not only did it make us independent from the Germans by means of smg production, it gave our soldiers a lot of firepower. Interesting fact is that the folding magazine was not only for ease of transportation, but for a much less talked-about reason too. When a soviet sniper was observing our troops from cover, they would shoot the officers, and the fact is, that our officers carried automatic firearms, as opposed to the regular soldier, carrying a rifle. The folding magazine was fixed to firing position only when firing, so when an officer was moving around in a trench per say, the 43M looked like a rifle, so the sniper would not recognize him as easily, and would not shoot him
@DivingHawker5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about this magazine release, it might be quick to reload using your thumb to push forward. I would love to get one between my hands to test the feeling of it. Then again, I'm French, and the French are known for their unusual, quirky gun designs
@zedd75195 жыл бұрын
Magyar vagyok.Im Hungary. Szép videó.Nice video
@gnarshread7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting design.
@martonmukli33927 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video grats from hungary i m happy that other people also interested in our history keep do this wonders