Hungary's Opposition Surges in the Polls: What Next?

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In this video, we’ll run through a recent history of Hungarian politics, why Magyar’s opposition party is on the rise, and whether he can actually unseat Viktor Orbán.
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[@prywatne4733]

The fact that his name literally means "Peter The Hungarian" is even funnier than Hunagary on the thumbnail

[@henryburton6529]

A hell of a name for a political candidate

[@duckduck4073]

The most laughable thing here is him continously mispronouncing the guy's name throughout the video

[@ayviriviross8813]

. … Funnier Still Is The Fact That Peter The Hungarian Sounds Like A Balkan Sonic Character

[@SaulBadman-wb5kt]

This is the Equivalent of Johnny America Running for the US presidency

[@dougdupont6134]

I made a similar quip in the last video about him. Can you imagine someone named Johnny American running for president in the US? He should change his first name to Attila though and his wife had better be named Ilona.

[@nektar1n810]

Hungarian here. Our previous opposition, such as the parties like MSZP (former governor party), or DK (Democratic Coalition) were extremely compromised. These parties were full of politicians who are incompetent and burnt-out. The former "leader" of Hungarian opposition was Ferenc Gyurcsány, who is one of the most disapproved politicians in the country. He was also the prime minister between 2004 and 2009. The government propaganda still uses Ferenc Gyurcsány to scare the people that he wants to get back to power and run for the prime minister position. Most of the people believe this, thus they vote for Fidesz. So Ferenc Gyurcsány is basically the huge weight on the ship of the Hungarian opposition. Péter Magyar, however, who cannot be compromised that easilly, and is much smarter than most of the previous oposition politicians, might actually can achieve something against the 14 year rule of Viktor Orbán.

[@peterbalogh8138]

Can not be compromised??? "I will not be a politician" - he has became one. "I will not go to Brussels" - now he is MEP "I want to debate on TV" - then refused the invitation. A hopeless clear-case psychopath at large, that's what this person is.

[@Gabrong]

péter, the ex-fidesz licker (in all forms)... idk man, i hope for a better future, but cant trust him either. at most I can see him as a starter of change.

[@kristof6472]

You give waaay too much credit to magyar and tisza. How many times have there been newcomers who were like "this time we got it". Tisza just plays the same populist game that fidesz does.

[@milantoth6246]

His comment is literally about how the success of Tisza is not insignificantly attributable to the fact that they are not compromised by pre 2010 MSZP politicians being members.

[@AIEnhanced-ts5ko]

From an outsider's perspective I don't see any real political change perspective here. I hear the same Orban rhetoric from this new party, same "we shouldn't help Ukraine", same "Hungary for Hungarians" lirycs.

[@user-dk4dm7yp2c]

We got Hunagary before GTA 6.

[@unconventionalideas5683]

It's fixed now.

[@JmKrokY]

🥶

[@ThomasTubeHD]

We got "We got Hunagary before GTA 6." before GTA 6

[@HistoricallyProven]

🤖

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

@@user-dk4dm7yp2c I always get Hungary well before 6, GTA or otherwise.

[@arvantsaraihan5777]

OMG we're getting a new country in Europe, Hunagary! edit: good thing they already fixed the thumbnails

[@Proudenglishperson]

Hungary exist nato bot 😂😂

[@accidentcarrot7225]

​@@ProudenglishpersonYou are the most obvious russian bot I've ever seen

[@Daisy_3011]

​@@ProudenglishpersonHe said Hunagary, look at the thumbnail ruski😂

[@centura86]

Lets embrace them with open hearts and open arms, we shall embrace their desire to come to us in europe and strife for cooperation and common prosperity. Away from the tight, dirty and corrupt grips of orban and putin. Together as the european people! Shall we all be one and for all together in the future!

[@Aggoenix]

We are getting a new country literally, the country that cooperates with its european allies and not only either criticizes, blocks or demolishes everything ..

[@Welethaes]

Correction: Magyar's wife was Judit Varga and not Novák

[@danerixgames]

same s**t

[@gabor6259]

Just like he said in the video (2:33).

[@Garden_of_Eden]

I'm sorry but hunagary on the thumbnail is hilarious 😭😭

[@manos3414]

the country's name is probably named after "hungry".

[@csat1078]

That demonstrates the level of precision and truthfulness of TLDR.

[@FutureMan420Blazer]

i dont see it, they fixed it already ?

[@csat1078]

​@@FutureMan420Blazer yes they've replaced it just now. Lets wait and see if they even acknowledge it or its just going to be yet another of the long line of mistakes they might hide in another long video where they list the stuff they were evidently factually wrong and people upvoted comments about.. TLDR has a clear narrative bias its a form of entertainment not a source of valid true information.

[@WhichDoctor1]

@@csat1078 id rather they make the odd spelling mistake and mix up flags occasionally than make errors in the facts they report. Limited time and money goes into these vids, id rather the maximum amount of that went into the reporting rather than the visuals

[@Tigre7642]

I live in Hungary and let me tell you that people are fed up with the current governement for a long time now. Most ppl i talk to often refers to the state of the hospitals and education we have right now. You really really really dont want to get in a hospital nowdays in Hungary even if it's an emergency. My family had the "luck" to try it out unfortunately. What Magyar Péter states are nice and good but most ppl don't trust him either cause of the fact he emerged "suddenly" from no where. But yeah, ppl are tired and want a change from the past 14 years...

[@vodkavecz]

Fed up is the right word. They lost me completely when I heard "Háborús Pszichózis" the Nth time before a youtube video.

[@igornastasijevic5030]

I am sorry but i have to ask since i am not that much into Hungarian politics, how come you guys can trust him since he was a Fidesz member for 20 years? Although i am looking forward to every opportunity for Hungary to get back to complying with EU i generally wonder how good of a solution this guy can be.

[@Tigre7642]

@@igornastasijevic5030 Read my comment again. As i said most ppl dont trust him including me but we dont rly have other choices right now

[@peterbalogh8138]

@@igornastasijevic5030 EU should return to what it was - a trade organization, without any political decision-making, especially interfering with the members' own legislation and jurisdiction. THAT EU would be worth trying to improve - the present one is utterly dysfunctional and bureaucratic.

[@Mostlikelykilled]

​@@igornastasijevic5030 A lot of people who turned to Tisza have the mentality of choosing the lesser evil, though many others are just swayed by charismatic appearances helped by a tightly ran media group Magyar has. But there are plenty of signs that he would just be an Orban 2.0

[@123_1]

Addition: 2023 in Hungary: - In January, bread inflation was almost 82%, food inflation was over 48%, general inflation was 26.2%, three times the EU average! - In the first quarter, real wages fell the most in Hungary with a 15.6%, which is 4 times of OECD average - In July our money lost 36% of its value in 2 years due to inflation !!! - In January, Lőrinc Mészáros, Orban's main strawman (a former plumber) increased the monthly tolls by 72% after he bought the 35-year motorway concession - Lőrinc Mészáros bought a yacht for 27 billion forints, which is almost 11,000 years of average Hungarian pension. Mészáros's wealth increased by 50%, 330 billion forints in a single year - The Matolcsy, the head of central bank (MNB), bought an apartment in New York for 14 billion forints, which is equivalent to 5608 years of average Hungarian pensions. Meanwhile, the MNB has accumulated losses of HUF 2400 billion - The Orbán family's visible! wealth reaches HUF 100 billion, Orbán's father built a mansion in Hatvanpuszta for 10 billion forints - The cows on János Lázár minister's stud farm got waterbeds for HUF 3 billion from the state! - In 2023, Romania overtook Hungary in GDP per capita, - In 2023, Bulgaria overtook Hungary in per capita consumption, making Hungary the poorest member of EU. - Hungary has the 2nd lowest average wage and minimum wage in the EU ! - The Dear Leader has finally found the magic weapon against inflation: he just had to fire the leading statisticians of the Hungarian Statistical Office, put them under the Rogán-led propaganda ministry and the single-digit inflation was achieved...! In 2023, the consumer price index was still 17.6% and food inflation 25.9%. - In 2023, growth (-0.9%) was the 3rd worst in the EU - 700 billion forints spent by the government to buy the Vodafone Hungary and give it away to Orban's stooge (equivalent to about 280,000 years of average Hungarian pensions) - 2021 foreign human traffickers were released from Hungarian prisons in 2023 (official explaination: keeping them in prison is too expensive) - There are already 100,000 Asian migrant workers in Hungary, who are undercutting the wages of Hungarian workers, with their numbers increasing by about 1,000 a month - 40% of the Hungarian population run out of money by the end of the month, with no savings - The Hungarian birth count has fallen to an all-time low - OTP survey shows that 94 out of 100 young people do not want to work in Hungary ! - 125,000 Hungarians already work in Austria - Half a million Hungarians have disappeared in 10 years, the country's population is below 9.6 million, at 1953 levels and falling - In 2023 the budget deficit was 4593 billion forints , about 6.5 percent of GDP, more than double the 3 percent accepted by the EU, the Hungarian state paid the largest interest burden after the national debt in the EU to GDP (4.3%), the interest expenses amounted to HUF 3,500 billion, which is equivalent to 1.26 million years of Hungarian average pension, meanwile GDP growth rate was -0.9%. - In december, a new law was launched to silence critical media outlets and civil organizations! Just for those who look to Orban as a role model, you should know what to expect...

[@ThunderFarter]

That's why we need Mi Hazank.

[@123_1]

@@ThunderFarter Who want those anti-vaccination, semi-facsist, extremely populist bastards?

[@GaryVR]

@@ThunderFarter Absolutely not! How can you make up with their out of pocket conspiracy theories?

[@dretax14]

@@ThunderFarter Jóvicc

[@limitedf4k348]

@@GaryVR They are not out of pocket though😂... As we always realise long term... There's no one better than them... Or what, choose the eu puppet Tisza that's going to betray the nation? Nevet ever...

[@davidkovacs5432]

There's one thing that i think needs clarification. Hungary is a socially conservative country. And yet all the other, failed opposition movements were packed with socdem/liberal parties, so Orbán's propaganda could just scare the voters by saying something along the lines of "they want to pack Hungary full of migrants". But... Magyar is pretty conservative on social issues, which is appealing to many voters who voted for Fidesz, because they agreed with them on social issues, but now are fed up with the absolutely disgusting amounts of corruption, democratic backsliding, the pro-russian narrative and all that stuff Unrelated: Orbán built another palace for himself and when news on this broke, it got labeled as "The manor of stolen money" on google maps, which i think is pretty funny and demonstrates the attitude of the people towards the currents regime.

[@oldstix]

"Conservative" on social issues, to me, as an American, really means bigotry and misogyny.

[@KaleidoAbridged]

@@oldstix pretty much ye

[@kilyensmi]

@@oldstix nah, Magyar mentioned the important role of women many times. out of the 7 members of the european parliament from Magyar's party 4 are women. in the context of hungary, socially conservative (imo) rather means that the party of magyar isn't woke and wouldn't want illegal immigrants. i've never heard tisza talk about lgbqia+ issues though, but i assume they're not crazy woke. one of the vice presidents is a pastor of the reformed church, but he seems like a good person and not a bigot.

[@varnaijozsef]

Americans will never beat the stupid allegations..

[@hyperborean8240]

@@oldstix because your country is cucked

[@bencemervay]

Just a small correction: the demonstrations after the resignations of Katalin Novák and Judit Varga were not anti-government but pro-child protection and were organised by a few social media influencer. But the rest is good!

[@michuXYZ]

As a Polish this is best news related to Hungary i heard in a while. We want the real Hungary back. Not pro-russian, backwards, orbanist island in the middle of Europe.

[@polishoperator5687]

You’re damn right it’s good news for us Poles, Orban is driving Hungary down

[@mastermindd]

What is real Hungary then?

[@michuXYZ]

@@mastermindd What Hungary you ask? The Hungary that values teamwork with Poland more than deals with Putin :)

[@threesixnine369six]

@@mastermindd normal, well balanced, somewhat progressive, a country where the rule of law is strong, a country that is not ruled by someone who disregards the rule of law and admires and befriends dictatorial figures.

[@sdrawkcabUK]

Look forward to Poland and Hungary becoming some third world dumping ground like the rest of the EU

[@MoonatikYT]

bro what kind of name is "Peter Magyar" that's like a US politician being named "John American"

[@Atesz222]

Nationalities are common surnames in Hungary. Magyar, Orosz, Lengyel, Német(h), Szerb, Cseh, etc

[@VINCENTBUTZ6]

There a many countries where the country demonym is also a surname. Just because you don't have the surname America in the USA, it is nothing weird or funny about a country surname

[@gohanssj48]

I was waiting for this commentary.

[@belavarga9784]

Omg. U r só stpud

[@JmKrokY]

I thought it was odd as well until I remembered that in my home country (Croatia) the most common surname is "Horvat" meaning Croat.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Peter Hungarian... Ah yes, another iconic Hungarian name among the likes of Felix Lengyel, "Happy Pole".

[@ElysiumCreator]

It’s funny, Peter Magyar basically has a perfect surname. Magyar means Hungarian in the Hungarian Language.

[@ahaveland]

Fidesz is pronounced as Fidess not Fidezz! Tisza is pronounced as Teessa not Teeza. Orbán has a hard "a" as in "and". "Sz" is one of 42 letters in their alphabet, always pronounced as an English "s" . Hungarian "s" is always pronounced as an Engiish "sh", so Budapest sounds like Budapesht. Sorry, these things matter and takes just a little time to learn!

[@csat1078]

"just a little time" - They don't care. The female narrator on their last Slovakia video was the first actually pronouncing Fico well, she probably either read the comment section or is the single individual who does due diligance :). TLDR doesn't care if they are factually wrong: they've stated it already that all that matters to them is viewer numbers and "time to market". They won't bother with pronounciation unless forced by viewers to do so.

[@lighting7508]

@@csat1078 they care about facts their subject material is just very broad. But yeah they don't care about pronunciation lol

[@ratatatuff]

Nobody cares.

[@csat1078]

​@@lighting7508 They've made numerous videos apologizing and each time they've said its more important to get viewer numbers and maximize reactions compared to being factually correct: they can acknowledge being factually wrong later, but they wont change their narrative viewpoints just because of contradictory facts. Ommission of key facts while presenting a narrative is also another form of false representation. You know situations in which you present someone as being attacked while being silent about the "victim" taking a shot at the "attacker" first. :)

[@lewatoaofair2522]

And “Magyar” has a hard G (every G in Hungarian does).

[@phpn99]

It's a classic urban-rural / generational scenario. Orban's base is older and less urban. They are on the wane. Young, well-educated city dwellers in centres such as Budapest do not identify the least bit with Orban's narrative and in fact reject his ideas more strongly than anyone else in Europe. They will eventually prevail and Fidesz' days are numbered.

[@TSEliot1978]

Also if you look at Tisza's electoral results in the 2024 European elections, Tisza was very close to Fidesz in bigger and midsize rural towns as well (above 20.000 inhabitants)

[@tomeekun]

Almost every city besides Budapest and Szeged voted orange. Budapest almost did too. It’s actually not the simple urban-rural divide.

[@TSEliot1978]

@@tomeekun Not true. Szeged, Nyíregyháza and Szolnok were won by Tisza and Fidesz only won a relative majority in several other rural towns.

[@sdrawkcabUK]

They should all be given a free trip to any large city France, uk, Germany and Sweden, and then they can see if that’s the future they want for their country

[@Purjo92]

@@sdrawkcabUK Maybe you should visit those cities. Those cities are thriving and that is the only reason rich people still want to invest in otherwise aging Europe. They are the EU's productivity capitals, with a young workforce and the best job opportunities. Your cozy life with tax-paid public services in rural areas is paid for by those productive white-collar workers in the cities, it's not a matter of opinion, it's economic fact.

[@OnilMarteNavarroza]

Not the HUNAGARY on the thumbnail 😂

[@bababababababa6124]

So essentially the pattern is: 1. Opposition party is formed to counter Orban 2. Party miserably fails and is unable to counter Orban 3. Party dissolves 4. Rinse and repeat

[@BlancoSz]

Yes and no. The opposition here is massively packed with its own skeletons and the younger generations simply couldn't identify with them. Plus, Hungarians are not forward thinking ppl. We are traditionally conservative. All the previous opposition parties were either soc dems or Liberals. Those couldn't resonate with the majority, so basically their efforts were in vain. Magyar is an ex Fidesz member, he knows all the strategies Fidesz usually uses and he can counter them.

[@Tovalokodonc]

​@@BlancoSz Márki-Zay was a conservative. State propaganda ruined his chances

[@BlancoSz]

@@Tovalokodonc yes, maybe he wasn't prepared for the propaganda. Magyar seems to be a tiny bit ahead of the government propaganda, what do you think?

[@csaszarlajos8473]

Until now, there wasn't a single strong party, but party alliances of many small parties, they usually couldn't work together, or they were too broad ideologically.

[@Tovalokodonc]

@@BlancoSz Márki-Zay was too honest of a guy and not media trained. Maybe in a Hungary where Fidesz and this disgusting system wouldn't exist, he'd have a real chance

[@adrianhudek9111]

Please, people of paprika, find new leader for your country, not a russofil

[@peterbalogh8138]

Just how difficult is it to understand that NOT being Ukraine-committed does not equal with Russophilia?

[@kalmansovari6878]

He used to be a champion of "russophobia" a before 2012 btw

[@matenagy9244]

@@peterbalogh8138 How come Orbán doesn't criticize Russia over any matter that is condemned by the international arena?

[@europ_everi_nice]

People of paprika. Yes, indeed 😌🌶🌶🌶

[@giantWario]

Dude sorry to break it to you but Magyar has the exact same policies regarding Ukraine as Orban. This is not surprising either, 86% of Hungarians disapprove of European or NATO military involvement in Ukraine. And according to another poll, Hungarians literally see Ukraine as a bigger threat than Russia. You're not ever gonna get a pro-Ukraine Hungarian leader even if Orban leaves.

[@boomerix]

Another reason for Tisza's popularity is that so far they have refused to work with the "grand opposition". The opposition force has been dominated by old parties who have a lot of their own scandals and controversies, especially regarding corruption. Adding to that, progressive ideas are simply not popular in Hungary so every conservative or new party in the past who tried to work with them (like Marky-Zay) poisoned their own reputation. With Tisza absolutely refusing to work with them, they actually demonstrated themselves to be a real alternative for once. This also means tho that the party has to fight a war on two front, against Fidesz and against "the Opposition". The biggest losers in the last EU elections were the parties of the grand opposition. Fidesz may have lost a bit of votes, but the opposition got absolutely destroyed. Which has also demonstrated that a majority of the opposition voters weren't loyal supporters, but just part of the "anyone but Orbán" crowd and as soon as someone came in to the picture who presented himself as not the same corrupt member of the old pack they happily jumped ship to support Tisza instead. I don't think Tisza could "win" the next election, but if they keep their hard stance on not working with the old opposition they might be able to siphon enough conservative and rural voters away from Fidesz to break their 2/3rd majority.

[@limitedf4k348]

Yea but it's not because Tisza does not agree with the other globalist parties completely in any ideological question, they are all globalist at the end of the day. Don't you realise that the single and main reason why they are not in a coalition together is that us, the people wouldn't vote for them if Tisza would be in the coalition? Basically they are deceiving the people with their narrative making it look like they are different from the globalists meanwhile the reality is they all want and think the same but this is how they can sell it to us and then when they are elected nobody will care about what was said back then or what is said right now and they will be able to do anything they want to. They'll hype something up thus the topic of discussion will change to that and it's all forgotten. Tisza is basically the party Democratic Coalition but wearing a Conservative Jacket.

[@limitedf4k348]

Mi Hazánk is the best option... Nobody puts as much effort into this country as them. They have the potential to lead us to greatness.

[@nokedili]

I am Hungarian and really sad that Momentum and MKKP (both liberal, centr-left parties) fell off so badly because I only agreed with those two, I don't agree with TISZA in many questions but I guess it's still better than Fidesz, so I'll probably be voting for them in 2026

[@csat1078]

@nokedili You should have your own opinion about things and not be a blind follower pro or against any party: good for you, rare occurance to see somebody who thinks and utilize their brain capacity :).

[@chrisalex82]

Voting for anyone other then òrban is better 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sqpreme4740]

I hope after Orbán is defeated there will be a new soc-dem party that has nothing to do with Gyurcsány and DK. SZONDI UTCA‼️

[@peterbalogh8138]

This wife-beating violent freak could not even hold his own family together - what do you expect of him?

[@ymckrgb]

Stop living in dream land and vote for the only real opponent that has a chance in 14+ years

[@markredl8715]

Small correction Judit Varga is the ex-wife not Katalin Novák. It is great video tho

[@adamschmidt9084]

That's what they said in the video

[@sgtvoro]

@@adamschmidt9084 Yeah, it's just easy to mishear the "plus" as "who is"

[@plasmacannon1198]

I like that his surname is literally “Hungarian” 😂😂

[@VINCENTBUTZ6]

There a many countries where the country demonym is also a surname. Just because you don't have the surname America in the USA, you don't make fun of something like this

[@plasmacannon1198]

@@VINCENTBUTZ6 I’m not making fun of it and I’m not American. Get outta here you social police

[@blotski]

Magyar means Hungarian. Hungary would be Magyarország.

[@plasmacannon1198]

@@blotski fixed ty!

[@Baumstumpf.]

I'm an Austrian working in a kitchen and I have jet to work in a single kitchen without Hungarians. Which is great for me because they are great colleagues but bad for them. They only come to Austria because their country does not give them opportunities. Edit: which can somewhat be blamed on Orban especially for younger people

[@the_pinkerton]

Probably because everyone is sick of orban at this point

[@kalifatokata]

Everybody?, when did you last come out of the cave?

[@peterbalogh8138]

Apparently not...only the uninformed ones....

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

Orban has quite strong vote base, if you look at the polling.

[@leventelajos5078]

@@peterbalogh8138uninformed ones are Orbans supporters lol. Like thousands of gipsies voting for 2000 huf

[@leometz7287]

Calling Jobbik conservative is an interesting way to describe far right extremists

[@tiborklein5349]

They moved to the center in 2018 after losing the election. A bunch of them left and made a separate (far-right ) party called Mi Hazánk.

[@mmaty8775]

at this point even breathing air makes you far-right according to you :D

[@happybalint]

they're all the same

[@jabloko992]

@@mmaty8775 Nah for real, Jobbik is actually Far-right, their name literally means "The right-er" or "the one even further to the right", it's on the tin.

[@jabloko992]

@@happybalint És pontosan az ilyen ostoba paraszt beszédért van Orbán! Meg is érdemlitek.

[@bubotanus]

Hungarians call government scandals an average Tuesday at this point 😅

[@minidreschi2]

Yap. There were so many stuff happened in the last 14 years, most of them would change the goverment at least 2x times in other countries, but here? Hungarians like to sit in their couch.

[@DGAMINGEN]

Correction to 1:10. Jobbik in 2018 was considered an ethnic nationalist, fascist and anti-semetic party that got condemmed by many European jewish groups. They have since however moderated to a pro-European conservative party and collapsed. The new MH party took many of their voters.

[@jdools4744]

Jewish groups cannot be trusted as a reputable non bias source

[@hamham_6411]

Slight correction to 0:47: Fidesz already had a government between 1998-2002 - albeit it needed a coalition. 2010 is merely when they got a _supermajority,_ a majority which they kept to this day. We're currently under the *5th* Orbán government.

[@peterkuwali4094]

All countries fed up with governments

[@samueltrusik3251]

Finally. Was about time.

[@bababababababa6124]

Considering the pattern over the past decade it’s likely they’ll just fall apart once Orban unfortunately inevitably beats them

[@TheBiggreenpig]

Don't hold your breath, this is more like a sensational article than anything meaningful. They say "earthquake", but it is only a tremor. Ideologically, this new party is closer to Fidesz than anything before, but it didn't make more than a dent on Fidesz's share in the elections. It took voters from other parties. This bubble will burst soon.

[@claudiocalabrese3865]

Craving to see another country destroyed by leftism? Hope your thirst won’t be quenched, then.

[@Gomb224]

Nothing will change, thank God. The opposition will fall apart as it usually does, the new guy is a mess.

[@TheGrat97]

Most of Hungarian people are rightist even most of the opposition, the liberal parties can barely reach 10% combined. But let's hope for a more west-friendly less corrupt government. Anti-migration and EU scepticism will not change.

[@theuralictribes5689]

Why would I as a Hungarian want to be pro west friendly when it's the West who is bullying us 24/7 and even were behind an attempted coup to overthrow the current Hungarian government? Heck no.

[@balazstatar7074]

Probably the biggest mistake in the video is to talk about the TISZA party before Peter Magyar. When he entered politics there was very little time to make a new party and enter it for the EU elections. He joined this party that nobody had ever heard of and had 0 voters to speed up the process of getting on the ballot. The party was founded this year practically.

[@nkanyezitshabalala5256]

"First let's start with some context," to which I would say, 'the TLDR way.' Thank you TLDR for your journalism, I have found it empowering.

[@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp]

Proof reading?

[@csat1078]

Nah they dont even care about being factually right / wrong, a spelling mistake wont bother them :)

[@renard_the_one]

i literally live here, and i can say it is pretty accurate, it's missing some context, but adding it would drag the video out. you could make a 1.5 hour long video on the rise of TISZA

[@csat1078]

@@renard_the_one I live here as well.

[@blue-skyuniform]

No matter, every country as every policy party is corporate 🙄

[@User.mindyourownbusiness94]

My friends in Hungary complain about unaffordable rent, expensive car payments, insurance costs, stagnant wages. Something has to change.

[@gcoffey223]

Increased immigration, higher government debt to support Ukraine, lower wages, and higher cost of living vs Orban is a way things coukd change

[@peterbalogh8138]

Sure, bud, that's why all long weekends are fully booked in wellness hotels and places, record inland tourism registered, and 9% real wage increase has been achieved.

[@mastermindd]

@@peterbalogh8138 9% wage raise, while inflation is 30-40% :D

[@peterbalogh8138]

@@mastermindd First, the 2024 yearly inflation is around 4% second, I recommend to familiarize yourself with the term REAL wage, so you don't look an uneducated moron.

[@sqpreme4740]

I mean the government debt almost tripled since Orbán came to power. Current wages are some of the lowest in the EU, with minimum wage being less than 500€ per month after taxes. And the cost of living is higher than ever. With last year's all around inflation being around 18%, but some food products reaching over 40%. Housing prices are through the roof, Budapest's got some of the highest rent prices relative to income in the EU.

[@123_1]

Finally pronouncing 'sz' right! 🏆

[@blotski]

Almost. He says it a bit like z occasionally but at least he is not saying tisha.

[@huxham]

FYI, "Magyar" is pronounced more like mod-yar. In Hungarian the "gy" letter combination is pronounced like a cross between an English "d" and a "j". The "a" in Magyar is pronounced like the "o" in "office", hence mod-yar. Apologies in advanced to any Hungarians if my explanation is not completely accurate. 😊

[@blotski]

Good explanation but did you notice you said 'a' is pronounced 'o' but still said 'magyar' was pronounced 'modyar'. What happened to the second 'a'? They are both pronounced 'o' so it's 'modjor'. And yes 'gy' is hard to describe but half way between a d and a j is not bad as an explanation.

[@bluesfan5527]

One of the things you forgot to mention is that Jobbik used to be a far-right, borderline neo-Nazi party. They got their start in the 2006 Budapest riots and slowly moderated their politics in order to gain a wider appeal.

[@peterasztalos3599]

correction: Judit Varga (minister of justice) was Magyar's ex-wife, not Katalin Novak

Not opposition. Only one party.

[@Sostaska69420]

As a Hungarian love the video, Árad a Tisza!

[@alfoldmapping5504]

Remélem, hogy a Tisza Párt fog nyerni 2026-ban.

[@Boti-vr5hv]

@@alfoldmapping5504 pontosan mi volt jó a programukban? Ja, nekik nincs olyan, miért is lenne?

[@doinked7312]

Actually TISZA plans to fund healthcare by disbanding the "Propaganda Ministry" ran by Antal Rogán. This would free up around 1.265 billion euros each year for healthcare. This has been made very clear by Magyar.

[@sandorfalusi3486]

As a Hungarian who opposes Orbán, I doubt that he can be removed from power by the voters. His eventual death will be the first opportunity to end Fidesz reign here… Unfortunate, but that is how things stand here for now…

[@Alien.Musk666]

Inventor of Project 2025 is in Hungary working with Orban. He is making himself the King.

[@JaydenGK2004]

Talk about propaganda paying off sounds like the corporate MSM has been working overtime.

[@reconsoldier135]

I'm surprised Orban even allows opposition to function at this point

[@attilahalmai4590]

you are surprised, because the mainstream media lies to you day and night. Orbán and FIDESZ always won on free elections.

[@Edua1111]

Right? Almost like in a democracy, ohh wait.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

What are you talking about? Opposition always existed in Hungary. Tisza Party will soon gets higher popularity than Fidesz and Orban will be overthrown in 2026. I hate Orban, but Hungary is a democracy. We are not Russia, China or North Korea. I voted for a centrist, anti-Orban party in 2024, nothing happened to me. I'll vote for Tisza Party in 2026.

[@minidreschi2]

@@alfoldmapping5504 It is a democracy if we talking only from voting aspect. Yes. But in any other? (media, vote numbers math, seats etc (like with 44% they get 2/3 in 2014...) It's pretty flawed.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

@@minidreschi2 There is independent media as well. In fact, the most popular news media outlets in Hungary are also independent. The reasons why Orban has 2/3 in parliament is because of the constituencies in the countryside.

[@Minimmalmythicist]

Sadly the Hungarian opposition is terrible too. I wish there was a better choice between a die hard reactionary and a bunch of neolibs.

[@aturchomicz821]

EU politics since 1998 be like:

[@locorum9103]

I know Orban is very bad, but you wouldn't beleve how many countries that description fits. US, UK, Australia, Japan, Korea, France, Italy... Not many countries have actual social democrats anymore.

[@Minimmalmythicist]

@@locorum9103 or they're a minor party that gets labled "far left"

[@forianproductions6113]

I am Hungarian. A large part of why TISZA is popular in my opinion is he did something the opposition couldn't for the last decade: make people talk about what they want them to. FIDESZ would always control the narrative, with their propaganda machine they could always make another hate campaign if they needed to. People would protest, then eventually go home and FIDESZ wins again. Péter Magyar was the first person in decades to have an actual campaign, with rallies all around the country, and all of the news was fixated on him for most of the campaign. There are more reasons, but this is one of them.

[@markymark7247]

Tisza's platform can mostly be summed up with "Fidesz without the corruption." It's still a euroskeptic, far-right, Christian nationalist platform it's just that it loathes Orban and ilk (which makes sense given he's a Fidesz defector). The problem is that the rejection of liberalism means the rejection of liberal values like equality, rule of law, and open government; the corruption in Fidesz is not just Orban, it's the ideology.

[@DavTitan]

We don’t need liberal values in Hungary. We need a strong economy, a good healthcare and school system. Look what happened in Western Europe due to liberal way of thinking.

[@ahaveland]

@@DavTitan Liberal values are human values. Liberal literally means "free".

[@Tovalokodonc]

@@markymark7247 It's not as Euroskeptic as you state

[@Tovalokodonc]

@@ahaveland Classical definitions no longer stand. Better acclimatize

[@limitedf4k348]

Don't you realise that the single and main reason why they are not in a coalition together with other globalist parties is that us, the people wouldn't vote for them if Tisza would be in the coalition? Basically they are deceiving the people with their narrative making it look like they are different from the globalists meanwhile the reality is they all think the same way and want the same thing, but this is how they can sell it to us and then when they are elected nobody will care about what was said back then or what is said right now and they will be able to do anything they want to. They'll hype something up thus the topic of discussion will change to that and it's all forgotten. Tisza is basically the party Democratic Coalition but wearing a Conservative Jacket.

[@kaktusztea]

Orbán was also in power from 1998 to 2002 and was in politics since 1988! So he was already an autocratic a.hole, but didn't have the 2/3 majority then. Originally he was a member of the communist party's young org. in the '80s, then in 1988 he founded the liberal(!) Fidesz (Alliance of Young Democrats). After 1994 when the right side of the political teather became empty he flipped side and became "moderate conservative and nationalist", also pro-western. After 2010 when he got 2/3 majority power he flipped side again, became an ultra-nationalist, anti-west, pro-Russia, pro-China, pro-Eastern, pro-autocrat, anti-EU populist a.hole++. He and Gyurcsány ("leftist" neoliberal a.hole) are the curse of Hungary in the last 30 years of politics.

[@mullergyula4174]

How is it possible in a "dictatorship" such as Hungary to replace the opposition in a few months? Magyar Péter and the Tisza party had a very strong campaign and did something very unique to achieve these poll results.

[@niederaussem6126]

Strongly disagree on "what the best politicians have in common"

[@TeslaElonSpaceXFan]

Peter Magyar ❤❤ Please support TISZA!

[@Enforcer5HUN]

The amount of "first name, last name, 4 numbers" bots are scary under this comment section.

[@paolomartinelli345]

EU propaganda Money pays good

[@SzotyMAG]

what no term limits does to a country

[@geenkaas6380]

No

[@sliftyy]

Tage Erlander of Sweden was Prime Minister for 23 years, but that was no problem.

[@MariaO22]

I am a half-Hungarian born and raised in Germany and am so unbelievably glad that this is happening!! I have been following all of Magyar Peters interviews and speeches in the last six months and really believe that this time it can be different. I am not saying he is the greatest and most selfless person ever, but he is someone who makes people believe that change is possible so that they can finally stand up against this government! Even my Hungarian mother who was an unconditional defender of Orbán (which led to quite a few family feuds) finally changed her mind. She is not necessarily the most conservative person but she believed that the EU is out to get Hungary and believed Orbán when he was complaining about this.. when you live in Germany it is hard to really think anything else than that since the German government and media used Hungary for years to distract from their own problems.. the level of coverage was not normal! Germany also has its problems which is why I am leaving soon, but at least people can live here with dignity..

[@chrisalex82]

Actual UK senario

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I'm Hungarian and I'm glad that TLDR finally got notice of the Hungarian opposition and the Tisza Party as well as realizing, that Orban's popularity is in decline. During this year, Orban lost more than 1.000.000 voters and by the end of this year, I'm more than sure, that TISZA will get more support in some of the public polls than Fidesz. If Orban doesn't announce pre-elections this year, he is practically doomed. Orban caused too much scandals, that will cost him dearly. In 2026, I'll definitely vote for Tisza Party.

[@ThomasBoyd-x3x]

Awesome thanks. Brilliant content. Spot on.

[@itzastralz1030]

They actually DO want our doctors and our engineers.

[@TheGahta]

The problem is that most going on about wanting to fight corruption tend to mean they just want others to get a share of them instead

[@eroxerox1650]

Enough of the Orban maffia!

[@RafaelPereira-vz5qf]

?

[@Tovalokodonc]

Waiting for the Fideszbots 😂😂

[@ThomasBoyd-x3x]

Abel Bodi Hungarian he have to pick up the pieces politically when Opposition takes over can lose Hungarian general election beforehand politically Victor Orban yes. Are better than Conservative government in England London United Kingdom yes. Awesome thanks. Got PR voting system for Hungary general election Thomas.

[@jdools4744]

Orban needs to take steps to curb the influence of opposition

[@watt_the_border_collie]

Fidesz didn't lose a significant amount of voters. The anti-Orban voters of Hungary are just sick of the incapable opposition, which has achieved nothing in the last 14 years and is also suspected to be the beneficiary of the regime. See, there are a lot of failed politicians in the opposition, their failure led to the overwhelming victory of Fidesz in 2010. These failed politicians and political parties can be used by Fidesz to "smear" the whole opposition with them, something they obviously cannot do with Peter Magyar. So as long as the popularity of Tisza correlates with the popularity drop of old opposition parties, there's nothing to be hopeful about. It's mostly the same voters, or some new, just united under a different banner.

[@getnohappy]

I always find it funny how much traction Orban get's railing about 'foreign money' when said foreign (EU) money is keeping the economy afloat

[@prothyyy]

The majority of his voter base has a very simple world view and is easy to manipulate in this way.

[@nydydn]

I clicked on the video and I am commenting before seeing it based only on the title. "Hungary's opposition surges in the polls: What next? Nothing's next. Hungarian elections just passed and Orban won. Sure, elections in Hungary are not very fair because of how Orban set it up, but only he can change it. There's lots of time until the next election, and this surge will pass. Orban will do whatever it takes to make sure of it. He is not leaving the PM position until he dies, and honestly, he's not really old.

[@barnabasdenes8955]

CORRECTION HERE: Katalin Novák was NOT the ex-wife of Péter Magyar, but Judit Varga was.

[@scaper12123]

Gonna have to hope that Orban doesn't go full authoritarian Putin on Hungary

[@alehaim]

*nothing ever happens* My bets are placed

[@johnrichardson7629]

Because Orban is a creepy crud?

[@karankapoor2701]

Just anti orban ... they're probably same in all other issues

[@19Szabolcs91]

Not in some of the most important issues like diplomacy and foreign policy.

[@bendeguzkarnitscher]

People are mostly voting for Tisza, because they want Orbán and Fidesz gone. The people who voted for one of the previous opposition parties now vote for Tisza. Luckily some former Fidesz voters wake up from the nonsense and bs Orbán has created, and so they also vote for Fidesz. Gyurcsány doesn’t praise Magyar, so Fidesz can’t say he is a person of Gyurcsány. (like they do with the Budapest mayor and basically anyone who is not them) (Hungarian here)

[@maxperience4157]

There is things we need to talk about in hugarian politics and make things clear. Fidesz in every poll every year is under represented and no one knows why is that not even the pollsters in hungary probably the main reason is that fidesz when goes into campaign mode they basically roll the opposition over and the second maybe reason is that the voting districts are won by fidesz mostly and those gives the most representative into the parliament. The eu and municipal election isnt really a great show what and how the 2026 election will go mostly cause fidesz had one if not the worst half year with its scandals and Magyar came at the best time to swipe up the broken opposition as it was stated in the video but day after day more and more things coming up about him not being the handsome blonde prince as he tries to impose himself and today came out an interview with his ex girlfriend (who is in the opposition and was one of the leaders in the 2024 campaign for him) that he is narcistic doesnt really have a plan how or what to do and lot more about his political carrier so far. And to conclude Fidesz isnt really afraid of him that much mostly already oppostion voters came under his banner( which is ironic cause he was in the Fidesz since he was 14 he stated it himself) but right now how things look Fidesz gonna win the next election the real question is more like will Fidesz lose its two-thirds majority or not.

[@albert6970]

Can you make a video about the austrian election? Its very interesting

[@timstauffacher8663]

Took them long enough

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

Since when is ‘135’ pronounced ‘1,3,5’ ? This is extremely poor style. Like writing ‘ten dollars’ as ‘10$’

[@IrenESorius]

Hunagary,, 😅

[@gr77552]

One opposition party eats all the rest, but there are no new opposition voters...

[@alfoldmapping5504]

Just wait, until those, who didn't participate in the previous elections, will vote for Tisza Party in 2026.

[@gergelylukats3167]

I'm sorry but this is just so wrong. TISZA was not a real party, no one had ever heard of it. Peter Magyar himself was polling at like 20% before even having a party, a "messiah", but he didn't have time to create a party in time for EP elections so had to take over an existing one for administrative reasons.

[@mateabonyi299]

fidesz= fides tisza= tisa that´s how you pronounce them in english, and another thing, in hungarian our last names usually come first when saying our entire name so it´s not Péter Magyar but Magyar Péter

[@akoskovacs6391]

Let me offer a little help about the pronunciation of the name Tisza. In Hungarian 'S' and 'Z' combined is the same as an 'S' in English (by the way 'S' alone is like 'SH'). You don't have to pronounce the Z in any way at all. You got it right with Fidesz, the rules here are the same.

[@blandragny9152]

YOU'RE PRONOUNCING IT WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG! :)

[@ulfosterberg9116]

Hungary needs to be out of EU for 15 to 20 years irespectly of who wins.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

What are you talking about? Why would Hungary be out of the EU?

[@Desmaad]

Anyone who can dethrone that race-baiting bolus of corruption while actually being better gets my support. However, the new party's leader being ex-Fidesz gets me worried. Did he leave for moral reasons? Did he just have a falling-out with Orbán? Is he just a power-seeker who wanted to get out from his shadow? Is this all a ruse by Orbán? I want answers!

[@Oleksa-Derevianchenko]

I guess Péter Magyar plans to use populism, winning the election by promising pleasant yet fantastic things to every voters group.

[@sogerc1]

Interesting that there are always at least 3 reasons.

[@victorineentertainment7746]

Please pronounce hungarian 'sz' as english 's'

[@stefano8936]

Clearly they speak about Hunagary, a country in Fanta-Europe League

[@PrexXyx]

Magyar personally is not far from Orbán ideologically, especially on issues of foreign affairs. He himself said in an interview that the EU parliament and the Commission's huge bureocratic back office should be dissolved altogether and he carefully avoids talking about the war in Ukraine as his personal opinion is probably similar to that of Orbán's while most of his voters are on the side of Ukraine. There was an instance when he travelled to Ukraine, but he only emphasized the humanitarian crisis, not the war itself

[@xeanderman6688]

Maybe cover the collapse of the Pirate Party in Czechia next? I could help with some research if you're interested

[@bic4]

peter magyar didn't join tisza but he made it ( he was late on registering a new party for the eu elections so the old tisza party gave over the ownership for him)

[@grantm902]

"Jobbik" sounds like a portmanteau of "jobby stick"

[@robertoswald4861]

TLDR glossary: Left-wing social spending: admirable Right-wing social spending: irresponsible

[@ThunderFarter]

yes

[@PeterPeter-pr2hi]

Social spending is good when it is for creating a welfare state. However, we are far from that, as our infrastructure is crumbling, our hospitals are in bad shape and our education is getting worse and worse. Most of our social spending went to construction projects that look nice and gave jobs to people for a while, but ultimately didn’t accomplish much in the long run, or handing out random tax breaks that had to be redistributed elsewhere because the government still needs taxes to function. Social spending which is deliberately planned is good, but when it is done just to secure votes and they immediately turn to austerity afterwards (which is what happened in 2022) is not good.

[@ThunderFarter]

@@PeterPeter-pr2hi That's why I'm voting Mi Hazank

[@oldgreybeard2507]

I am reading a book about the Hungarian Uprising of 1956. Leaving aside that the West left the population to the horror that is the Red Army the notion that a brave country which rose up against Russia should elect a leader that cuddles up to his paymaster Putin defies comprehension. Of course the ultra right is on the rise in Europe (plus the 0range man) so memories are short.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I'm Hungarian and I know, how the Russians treated us in 1956 when they destroyed Hungary and killed Hungarians. Hungary is not pro-Russian. We are a pro-Western democracy. Also, Orban will be gone by 2026, because he is a clear fraud.

[@johndurham6172]

Anybody but the other guy. America's style of politics.

[@mjstbnsn6294]

Well Donald Trump still loves him.

[@RafaelPereira-vz5qf]

Victor orban and Donald Trump are good presidents