Hungary's Opposition Surges in the Polls: What Next?

[@prywatne4733]

The fact that his name literally means "Peter The Hungarian" is even funnier than Hunagary on the thumbnail

[@henryburton6529]

A hell of a name for a political candidate

[@duckduck4073]

The most laughable thing here is him continously mispronouncing the guy's name throughout the video

[@ayviriviross8813]

. … Funnier Still Is The Fact That Peter The Hungarian Sounds Like A Balkan Sonic Character

[@SaulBadman-wb5kt]

This is the Equivalent of Johnny America Running for the US presidency

[@dougdupont6134]

I made a similar quip in the last video about him. Can you imagine someone named Johnny American running for president in the US? He should change his first name to Attila though and his wife had better be named Ilona.

[@balazstatar7074]

Probably the biggest mistake in the video is to talk about the TISZA party before Peter Magyar. When he entered politics there was very little time to make a new party and enter it for the EU elections. He joined this party that nobody had ever heard of and had 0 voters to speed up the process of getting on the ballot. The party was founded this year practically.

[@floydcarstairs9747]

I'd have also mentioned that Fidesz' base largely remained the same 2 million voters, heavily indoctrinated, and it's their election rules favoring them disproportionally that forced the opposition to unite. There is little evidence yet whether Péter Magyar can actually bear anything more than mostly those voters who already had been voting opposition since 2014.

[@gezakulcsar-angyal4630]

The Tisza party is really suspicious for me, because I don't understand where they got their massive financial source for campaign activities. I still like Mi hazánk more than Tisza. I meant a racist politician is better than a wife beater one.

[@floydcarstairs9747]

@@gezakulcsar-angyal4630 Mi Hazánk is Russia-friendly far-right, like the government. Falling over the old, blind carpet-like dog, eh? "Vak komondor"

[@kemenymikulas866]

​@@gezakulcsar-angyal4630there is no evidence that he actually hit his wife, and as we both know Judit Varga is a corrupt lier just like his owners, who probably can blackmail her with something.

[@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171]

​@@kemenymikulas866kemény lettem miattad.

[@MoonatikYT]

bro what kind of name is "Peter Magyar" that's like a US politician being named "John American"

[@Atesz222]

Nationalities are common surnames in Hungary. Magyar, Orosz, Lengyel, Német(h), Szerb, Cseh, etc

[@VINCENTBUTZ6]

There a many countries where the country demonym is also a surname. Just because you don't have the surname America in the USA, it is nothing weird or funny about a country surname

[@gohanssj48]

I was waiting for this commentary.

[@belavarga9784]

Omg. U r só stpud

[@JmKrokY]

I thought it was odd as well until I remembered that in my home country (Croatia) the most common surname is "Horvat" meaning Croat.

[@nektar1n810]

Hungarian here. Our previous opposition, such as the parties like MSZP (former governor party), or DK (Democratic Coalition) were extremely compromised. These parties were full of politicians who are incompetent and burnt-out. The former "leader" of Hungarian opposition was Ferenc Gyurcsány, who is one of the most disapproved politicians in the country. He was also the prime minister between 2004 and 2009. The government propaganda still uses Ferenc Gyurcsány to scare the people that he wants to get back to power and run for the prime minister position. Most of the people believe this, thus they vote for Fidesz. So Ferenc Gyurcsány is basically the huge weight on the ship of the Hungarian opposition. Péter Magyar, however, who cannot be compromised that easilly, and is much smarter than most of the previous oposition politicians, might actually can achieve something against the 14 year rule of Viktor Orbán.

[@peterbalogh8138]

Can not be compromised??? "I will not be a politician" - he has became one. "I will not go to Brussels" - now he is MEP "I want to debate on TV" - then refused the invitation. A hopeless clear-case psychopath at large, that's what this person is.

[@Gabrong]

péter, the ex-fidesz licker (in all forms)... idk man, i hope for a better future, but cant trust him either. at most I can see him as a starter of change.

[@kristof6472]

You give waaay too much credit to magyar and tisza. How many times have there been newcomers who were like "this time we got it". Tisza just plays the same populist game that fidesz does.

[@milantoth6246]

His comment is literally about how the success of Tisza is not insignificantly attributable to the fact that they are not compromised by pre 2010 MSZP politicians being members.

[@AIEnhanced-ts5ko]

From an outsider's perspective I don't see any real political change perspective here. I hear the same Orban rhetoric from this new party, same "we shouldn't help Ukraine", same "Hungary for Hungarians" lirycs.

[@user-dk4dm7yp2c]

We got Hunagary before GTA 6.

[@unconventionalideas5683]

It's fixed now.

[@JmKrokY]

🥶

[@ThomasTubeHD]

We got "We got Hunagary before GTA 6." before GTA 6

[@HistoricallyProven]

🤖

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

@@user-dk4dm7yp2c I always get Hungary well before 6, GTA or otherwise.

[@Garden_of_Eden]

I'm sorry but hunagary on the thumbnail is hilarious 😭😭

[@manos3414]

the country's name is probably named after "hungry".

[@csat1078]

That demonstrates the level of precision and truthfulness of TLDR.

[@FutureMan420Blazer]

i dont see it, they fixed it already ?

[@csat1078]

​@@FutureMan420Blazer yes they've replaced it just now. Lets wait and see if they even acknowledge it or its just going to be yet another of the long line of mistakes they might hide in another long video where they list the stuff they were evidently factually wrong and people upvoted comments about.. TLDR has a clear narrative bias its a form of entertainment not a source of valid true information.

[@WhichDoctor1]

@@csat1078 id rather they make the odd spelling mistake and mix up flags occasionally than make errors in the facts they report. Limited time and money goes into these vids, id rather the maximum amount of that went into the reporting rather than the visuals

[@123_1]

Addition: 2023 in Hungary: - In January, bread inflation was almost 82%, food inflation was over 48%, general inflation was 26.2%, three times the EU average! - In the first quarter, real wages fell the most in Hungary with a 15.6%, which is 4 times of OECD average - In July our money lost 36% of its value in 2 years due to inflation !!! - In January, Lőrinc Mészáros, Orban's main strawman (a former plumber) increased the monthly tolls by 72% after he bought the 35-year motorway concession - Lőrinc Mészáros bought a yacht for 27 billion forints, which is almost 11,000 years of average Hungarian pension. Mészáros's wealth increased by 50%, 330 billion forints in a single year - The Matolcsy, the head of central bank (MNB), bought an apartment in New York for 14 billion forints, which is equivalent to 5608 years of average Hungarian pensions. Meanwhile, the MNB has accumulated losses of HUF 2400 billion - The Orbán family's visible! wealth reaches HUF 100 billion, Orbán's father built a mansion in Hatvanpuszta for 10 billion forints - The cows on János Lázár minister's stud farm got waterbeds for HUF 3 billion from the state! - In 2023, Romania overtook Hungary in GDP per capita, - In 2023, Bulgaria overtook Hungary in per capita consumption, making Hungary the poorest member of EU. - Hungary has the 2nd lowest average wage and minimum wage in the EU ! - The Dear Leader has finally found the magic weapon against inflation: he just had to fire the leading statisticians of the Hungarian Statistical Office, put them under the Rogán-led propaganda ministry and the single-digit inflation was achieved...! In 2023, the consumer price index was still 17.6% and food inflation 25.9%. - In 2023, growth (-0.9%) was the 3rd worst in the EU - 700 billion forints spent by the government to buy the Vodafone Hungary and give it away to Orban's stooge (equivalent to about 280,000 years of average Hungarian pensions) - 2021 foreign human traffickers were released from Hungarian prisons in 2023 (official explaination: keeping them in prison is too expensive) - There are already 100,000 Asian migrant workers in Hungary, who are undercutting the wages of Hungarian workers, with their numbers increasing by about 1,000 a month - 40% of the Hungarian population run out of money by the end of the month, with no savings - The Hungarian birth count has fallen to an all-time low - OTP survey shows that 94 out of 100 young people do not want to work in Hungary ! - 125,000 Hungarians already work in Austria - Half a million Hungarians have disappeared in 10 years, the country's population is below 9.6 million, at 1953 levels and falling - In 2023 the budget deficit was 4593 billion forints , about 6.5 percent of GDP, more than double the 3 percent accepted by the EU, the Hungarian state paid the largest interest burden after the national debt in the EU to GDP (4.3%), the interest expenses amounted to HUF 3,500 billion, which is equivalent to 1.26 million years of Hungarian average pension, meanwile GDP growth rate was -0.9%. - In december, a new law was launched to silence critical media outlets and civil organizations! Just for those who look to Orban as a role model, you should know what to expect...

[@ThunderFarter]

That's why we need Mi Hazank.

[@123_1]

@@ThunderFarter Who want those anti-vaccination, semi-facsist, extremely populist bastards?

[@GaryVR]

@@ThunderFarter Absolutely not! How can you make up with their out of pocket conspiracy theories?

[@dretax14]

@@ThunderFarter Jóvicc

[@limitedf4k348]

@@GaryVR They are not out of pocket though😂... As we always realise long term... There's no one better than them... Or what, choose the eu puppet Tisza that's going to betray the nation? Nevet ever...

[@michuXYZ]

As a Polish this is best news related to Hungary i heard in a while. We want the real Hungary back. Not pro-russian, backwards, orbanist island in the middle of Europe.

[@polishoperator5687]

You’re damn right it’s good news for us Poles, Orban is driving Hungary down

[@mastermindd]

What is real Hungary then?

[@michuXYZ]

@@mastermindd What Hungary you ask? The Hungary that values teamwork with Poland more than deals with Putin :)

[@threesixnine369six]

@@mastermindd normal, well balanced, somewhat progressive, a country where the rule of law is strong, a country that is not ruled by someone who disregards the rule of law and admires and befriends dictatorial figures.

[@michuXYZ]

@@threesixnine369six Exactly, even the most conservative Polish figures don't want to have anything in common with Hungary anymore. That's a pure message for you Hungarians.

[@bubotanus]

Hungarians call government scandals an average Tuesday at this point 😅

[@minidreschi2]

Yap. There were so many stuff happened in the last 14 years, most of them would change the goverment at least 2x times in other countries, but here? Hungarians like to sit in their couch.

[@notastone4832]

@@minidreschi2 ha, try being canadian *laughs in blackface and corruption scandals*

[@Baumstumpf.]

I'm an Austrian working in a kitchen and I have jet to work in a single kitchen without Hungarians. Which is great for me because they are great colleagues but bad for them. They only come to Austria because their country does not give them opportunities. Edit: which can somewhat be blamed on Orban especially for younger people

[@Malam_13]

I'm sorry, but those who can make more money by washing dishes in Austria than at home, those probably don't even have a proper profession or don't have studies to do anything else. I don't know a single person directly who have finished a university or has a profession and does not make enough to afford a decent life in Hungary. And I have relatives in one of the the poorer counties of Hungary.

[@konradferenczy1770]

​@Malam_13 I don't know what professions your relatives pursue but my relatives on the countryside have to take a loan when the boiler brakes down, save money for a whole year just to go to Balaton in the summer, cannot afford shopping at Lidl anymore because "it got too expensive", and cannot pay for my cousin's student dorm at university because it's over their budget. Sure, they are not starving, but this is not the life people should live anywhere in Europe - and they don't. That's why so many people go to work in Austria/Western Europe.

[@Baumstumpf.]

@@Malam_13 haha I never said they were dishwashers. I worked under a cook who was Hungarian. And a country should also provide a way up for those that have not gone to college

[@onam3000]

​@@Malam_13 Depends on what your standards for decent life are, but I would say you are generally right. Most who go on to work in Austrian kitchens do so either to use that money to get their life together (maybe buy a car or just have some money while they are in a training program) or just collage students on summer jobs.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Well, the EU keep back a lot of money what Hungary should use to solve those problems.. and the most ridiculous part of this, the Fidesz is "only" the 44%, so 56% of those who are oppose to Fidesz are also punished just because of they want to punish them.. there should be a limit what a politicans can accept.. like not punishing 44 of the other side mans on the cost of 56 of their own mans punishing (out of 100).. that simply ridiculous if you punishing 20% more of your own mans, then the "enemy" mans..

[@Tigre7642]

I live in Hungary and let me tell you that people are fed up with the current governement for a long time now. Most ppl i talk to often refers to the state of the hospitals and education we have right now. You really really really dont want to get in a hospital nowdays in Hungary even if it's an emergency. My family had the "luck" to try it out unfortunately. What Magyar Péter states are nice and good but most ppl don't trust him either cause of the fact he emerged "suddenly" from no where. But yeah, ppl are tired and want a change from the past 14 years...

[@vodkavecz]

Fed up is the right word. They lost me completely when I heard "Háborús Pszichózis" the Nth time before a youtube video.

[@igornastasijevic5030]

I am sorry but i have to ask since i am not that much into Hungarian politics, how come you guys can trust him since he was a Fidesz member for 20 years? Although i am looking forward to every opportunity for Hungary to get back to complying with EU i generally wonder how good of a solution this guy can be.

[@Tigre7642]

@@igornastasijevic5030 Read my comment again. As i said most ppl dont trust him including me but we dont rly have other choices right now

[@peterbalogh8138]

@@igornastasijevic5030 EU should return to what it was - a trade organization, without any political decision-making, especially interfering with the members' own legislation and jurisdiction. THAT EU would be worth trying to improve - the present one is utterly dysfunctional and bureaucratic.

[@Mostlikelykilled]

​@@igornastasijevic5030 A lot of people who turned to Tisza have the mentality of choosing the lesser evil, though many others are just swayed by charismatic appearances helped by a tightly ran media group Magyar has. But there are plenty of signs that he would just be an Orban 2.0

[@arvantsaraihan5777]

OMG we're getting a new country in Europe, Hunagary! edit: good thing they already fixed the thumbnails

[@Proudenglishperson]

Hungary exist nato bot 😂😂

[@accidentcarrot7225]

​@@ProudenglishpersonYou are the most obvious russian bot I've ever seen

[@Daisy_3011]

​@@ProudenglishpersonHe said Hunagary, look at the thumbnail ruski😂

[@centura86]

Lets embrace them with open hearts and open arms, we shall embrace their desire to come to us in europe and strife for cooperation and common prosperity. Away from the tight, dirty and corrupt grips of orban and putin. Together as the european people! Shall we all be one and for all together in the future!

[@Aggoenix]

We are getting a new country literally, the country that cooperates with its european allies and not only either criticizes, blocks or demolishes everything ..

[@hamham_6411]

Slight correction to 0:47: Fidesz already had a government between 1998-2002 - albeit it needed a coalition. 2010 is merely when they got a _supermajority,_ a majority which they kept to this day. We're currently under the *5th* Orbán government.

[@iwuedfh]

correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't fidesz a different ideology back in 1998, like a bit more liberal?

[@krcsp]

@@iwuedfhyeah it basically took a 180 degree turn as a whole

[@almosmajor8288]

​@@iwuedfh Yeah, that's right. Moreover between 1988-1989 Viktor Orbán was the symbol of liberalism in the country and the protests against the communist regime.

[@hamham_6411]

​@@iwuedfh 1989-1990, _definitely_ a progressive force; as mentioned, Orbán used to be a face of the ideology. Had a major shift to conservatism in '93 though (some members left over it and joined the now-defunct SZDSZ). I was surprised to learn that they dropped the original name of the party ("Fiatal Demokraták Szövetsége", lit. "Alliance of Young Democrats") as far back as '95, only retaining the acronym, albeit they stayed more subtle/moderate about their new ideology in 1998-2002.

[@rauminen4167]

@@hamham_6411 Thing is the "progressives" of today are more communist than the communists Orban was against in 1989. They at least realised their time was over.

[@kovako6723]

This analisys is quite incomplete. In fact it lacks the most important factor. The sudden rise of Tisza party is overwhelmingly relies on the utter dissapointment in the opposition parties, that failed to built up any credible vision, program over the last 14-16 years. That is proven to be thecase by looking at the numbers, that shows, the vast majority of Tisza voters ar coming from these opposition parties. Their popularity collapsed in a couple of months, paralell with the rising of Tisza party. The basis of Fidesz was hit, but hasn't been collapsed, roughly 85-88% of the previous voter block is still there. Which is not suprrising, given the fact, Tisza party has been a one man show by Peter Magyar. It is not a working political party, with other faces, and an organizaton, it still lacks the perception of an organization, that could lead the country. Many people reasonably are still sceptical about Tisza, because of that. The funcamental question is, whether Tisza party could transform into an actual party, or remains a personal politicaly standup. It it does transform into a party, it is likely the Fidezs voting block will start to fall apart.

[@davidkovacs5432]

There's one thing that i think needs clarification. Hungary is a socially conservative country. And yet all the other, failed opposition movements were packed with socdem/liberal parties, so Orbán's propaganda could just scare the voters by saying something along the lines of "they want to pack Hungary full of migrants". But... Magyar is pretty conservative on social issues, which is appealing to many voters who voted for Fidesz, because they agreed with them on social issues, but now are fed up with the absolutely disgusting amounts of corruption, democratic backsliding, the pro-russian narrative and all that stuff Unrelated: Orbán built another palace for himself and when news on this broke, it got labeled as "The manor of stolen money" on google maps, which i think is pretty funny and demonstrates the attitude of the people towards the currents regime.

[@oldstix]

"Conservative" on social issues, to me, as an American, really means bigotry and misogyny.

[@KaleidoAbridged]

@@oldstix pretty much ye

[@kilyensmi]

@@oldstix nah, Magyar mentioned the important role of women many times. out of the 7 members of the european parliament from Magyar's party 4 are women. in the context of hungary, socially conservative (imo) rather means that the party of magyar isn't woke and wouldn't want illegal immigrants. i've never heard tisza talk about lgbqia+ issues though, but i assume they're not crazy woke. one of the vice presidents is a pastor of the reformed church, but he seems like a good person and not a bigot.

[@varnaijozsef]

Americans will never beat the stupid allegations..

[@hyperborean8240]

@@oldstix because your country is cucked

[@ElysiumCreator]

It’s funny, Peter Magyar basically has a perfect surname. Magyar means Hungarian in the Hungarian Language.

[@ahaveland]

Fidesz is pronounced as Fidess not Fidezz! Tisza is pronounced as Teessa not Teeza. Orbán has a hard "a" as in "and" or "apple". "Sz" is one of 44 letters in their alphabet, always pronounced as an English "s" . Hungarian "s" is always pronounced as an Engiish "sh", so Budapest sounds like Budapesht. Sorry, these things matter and takes just a little time to learn!

[@csat1078]

"just a little time" - They don't care. The female narrator on their last Slovakia video was the first actually pronouncing Fico well, she probably either read the comment section or is the single individual who does due diligance :). TLDR doesn't care if they are factually wrong: they've stated it already that all that matters to them is viewer numbers and "time to market". They won't bother with pronounciation unless forced by viewers to do so.

[@lighting7508]

@@csat1078 they care about facts their subject material is just very broad. But yeah they don't care about pronunciation lol

[@ratatatuff]

Nobody cares.

[@csat1078]

​@@lighting7508 They've made numerous videos apologizing and each time they've said its more important to get viewer numbers and maximize reactions compared to being factually correct: they can acknowledge being factually wrong later, but they wont change their narrative viewpoints just because of contradictory facts. Ommission of key facts while presenting a narrative is also another form of false representation. You know situations in which you present someone as being attacked while being silent about the "victim" taking a shot at the "attacker" first. :)

[@lewatoaofair2522]

And “Magyar” has a hard G (every G in Hungarian does).

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Peter Hungarian... Ah yes, another iconic Hungarian name among the likes of Felix Lengyel, "Happy Pole".

[@bluesfan5527]

One of the things you forgot to mention is that Jobbik used to be a far-right, borderline neo-Nazi party. They got their start in the 2006 Budapest riots and slowly moderated their politics in order to gain a wider appeal.

[@amidaobscura]

I doubt he "forgot".

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

Oh, they are still spreading r@cist conspiracies against the """"Zionists"""""...

[@plasmacannon1198]

I like that his surname is literally “Hungarian” 😂😂

[@VINCENTBUTZ6]

There a many countries where the country demonym is also a surname. Just because you don't have the surname America in the USA, you don't make fun of something like this

[@plasmacannon1198]

@@VINCENTBUTZ6 I’m not making fun of it and I’m not American. Get outta here you social police

[@blotski]

Magyar means Hungarian. Hungary would be Magyarország.

[@plasmacannon1198]

@@blotski fixed ty!

[@getnohappy]

I always find it funny how much traction Orban get's railing about 'foreign money' when said foreign (EU) money is keeping the economy afloat

[@prothyyy]

The majority of his voter base has a very simple world view and is easy to manipulate in this way.

[@ProtonCannon]

He need to he foreign money to build himself another mansion.

[@Welethaes]

Correction: Magyar's wife was Judit Varga and not Novák

[@danerixgames]

same s**t

[@gabor6259]

Just like he said in the video (2:33).

[@offkey.productions]

I think you misunderstood the phrasing: he said the 'plus', as the plus person, not plus her ex wife. He talks about the other person after the "plus", not the "and".:

[@Pekka.Pekka.1296]

They’re both the same, actually 😂😂😂

[@lovasip]

@@Welethaes understandable error, mixing them up was a running joke for years, until someone explained that Novák is Bubba and Varga is Kikki. Or the other way around? Not sure

[@boomerix]

Another reason for Tisza's popularity is that so far they have refused to work with the "grand opposition". The opposition force has been dominated by old parties who have a lot of their own scandals and controversies, especially regarding corruption. Adding to that, progressive ideas are simply not popular in Hungary so every conservative or new party in the past who tried to work with them (like Marky-Zay) poisoned their own reputation. With Tisza absolutely refusing to work with them, they actually demonstrated themselves to be a real alternative for once. This also means tho that the party has to fight a war on two front, against Fidesz and against "the Opposition". The biggest losers in the last EU elections were the parties of the grand opposition. Fidesz may have lost a bit of votes, but the opposition got absolutely destroyed. Which has also demonstrated that a majority of the opposition voters weren't loyal supporters, but just part of the "anyone but Orbán" crowd and as soon as someone came in to the picture who presented himself as not the same corrupt member of the old pack they happily jumped ship to support Tisza instead. I don't think Tisza could "win" the next election, but if they keep their hard stance on not working with the old opposition they might be able to siphon enough conservative and rural voters away from Fidesz to break their 2/3rd majority.

[@limitedf4k348]

Yea but it's not because Tisza does not agree with the other globalist parties completely in any ideological question, they are all globalist at the end of the day. Don't you realise that the single and main reason why they are not in a coalition together is that us, the people wouldn't vote for them if Tisza would be in the coalition? Basically they are deceiving the people with their narrative making it look like they are different from the globalists meanwhile the reality is they all want and think the same but this is how they can sell it to us and then when they are elected nobody will care about what was said back then or what is said right now and they will be able to do anything they want to. They'll hype something up thus the topic of discussion will change to that and it's all forgotten. Tisza is basically the party Democratic Coalition but wearing a Conservative Jacket.

[@limitedf4k348]

Mi Hazánk is the best option... Nobody puts as much effort into this country as them. They have the potential to lead us to greatness.

[@Heavylooser]

@@limitedf4k348 Yeah thanks no

[@nokedili]

I am Hungarian and really sad that Momentum and MKKP (both liberal, centr-left parties) fell off so badly because I only agreed with those two, I don't agree with TISZA in many questions but I guess it's still better than Fidesz, so I'll probably be voting for them in 2026

[@csat1078]

@nokedili You should have your own opinion about things and not be a blind follower pro or against any party: good for you, rare occurance to see somebody who thinks and utilize their brain capacity :).

[@chrisalex82]

Voting for anyone other then òrban is better 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sqpreme4740]

I hope after Orbán is defeated there will be a new soc-dem party that has nothing to do with Gyurcsány and DK. SZONDI UTCA‼️

[@peterbalogh8138]

This wife-beating violent freak could not even hold his own family together - what do you expect of him?

[@ymckrgb]

Stop living in dream land and vote for the only real opponent that has a chance in 14+ years

[@phpn99]

It's a classic urban-rural / generational scenario. Orban's base is older and less urban. They are on the wane. Young, well-educated city dwellers in centres such as Budapest do not identify the least bit with Orban's narrative and in fact reject his ideas more strongly than anyone else in Europe. They will eventually prevail and Fidesz' days are numbered.

[@TSEliot1978]

Also if you look at Tisza's electoral results in the 2024 European elections, Tisza was very close to Fidesz in bigger and midsize rural towns as well (above 20.000 inhabitants)

[@tomeekun]

Almost every city besides Budapest and Szeged voted orange. Budapest almost did too. It’s actually not the simple urban-rural divide.

[@TSEliot1978]

@@tomeekun Not true. Szeged, Nyíregyháza and Szolnok were won by Tisza and Fidesz only won a relative majority in several other rural towns.

[@Purjo92]

@sdrawkcabUK Maybe you should visit those cities. Those cities are thriving and that is the only reason rich people still want to invest in otherwise aging Europe. They are the EU's productivity capitals, with a young workforce and the best job opportunities. Your cozy life with tax-paid public services in rural areas is paid for by those productive white-collar workers in the cities, it's not a matter of opinion, it's economic fact.

[@WhichDoctor1]

@sdrawkcabUK yeah they should. It's much better here. Still not perfect, but definitely better. Actually come here and see for yourself, dont just listen to the oligarch funded right wing propaganda

[@adamzsoter3899]

As a Hungarian I can confirm that this is pretty accurate. But there are two things, on which I have a different opinion: - I think that most TISZA voters including me believe that randomly choosen policy ideas as political program will be enough to maintain popularity. Moreover probably it's better to avoid having an obvious straightforward political ideology because of the propaganda. I hear every day from FIDESZ voters that TISZA should have an ideological program and has to decide if it's left or right, FIDESZ voters wish for this so badly because then they could attack it. - The other thing is that FIDESZ is not an actual conservative party, and they also don't have any actual ideological program. Some of their laws are clearly far left ideas while their propaganda system is far right based on Putin's and Goebbels' methods. Then they have some post modern features as well like cancel culture or even PC but in illiberal style lol. They and their voters don't believe in anything really they just repeat Russian and Trump propaganda, like "no migrants, and no LMBTQ" and "this is a christian country". FIDESZ has now several pedophil cases and some gay orgia/gay prostitute/ gay porn cases, so that anty LMBTQ backfired and backfires still this year, I think in a very funny way. Collecting money for themselves remained the only actual political goal for the whole FIDESZ party. The best definition for FIDESZ party is "feudal economic autocracy". To understand why half of the country vote for Orban when Orban doesn't have any plan with the country other than repeating those three mantras is hard, but it gets even more nonsence when I add that Hungary is mostly an atheist country compared to Poland for example and barely homophobic compared to Russia or Trumpistan.

[@peterkuwali4094]

All countries fed up with governments

[@s.horv...]

Since then Tisza got from 35% to 46% and Fidesz got from 42 to 39%. 🇭🇺🎉

[@lightphasermusic]

There is one more reason not mentioned: he is continuously lying every morning, noon and evening since 2007, and now it all is catching up to him.

[@bababababababa6124]

So essentially the pattern is: 1. Opposition party is formed to counter Orban 2. Party miserably fails and is unable to counter Orban 3. Party dissolves 4. Rinse and repeat

[@BlancoSz]

Yes and no. The opposition here is massively packed with its own skeletons and the younger generations simply couldn't identify with them. Plus, Hungarians are not forward thinking ppl. We are traditionally conservative. All the previous opposition parties were either soc dems or Liberals. Those couldn't resonate with the majority, so basically their efforts were in vain. Magyar is an ex Fidesz member, he knows all the strategies Fidesz usually uses and he can counter them.

[@BlancoSz]

@Tovalokodonc yes, maybe he wasn't prepared for the propaganda. Magyar seems to be a tiny bit ahead of the government propaganda, what do you think?

[@csaszarlajos8473]

Until now, there wasn't a single strong party, but party alliances of many small parties, they usually couldn't work together, or they were too broad ideologically.

[@csat1078]

​@@BlancoSz "We are traditionally conservative." - factually wrong. Hungary is traditionally.. ..fractured but social policies are very popular; policy wise Fidesz actually moved a lot towards the left from the center-right position they've held 1998-2002. They've also adopted and developed on top of the marketing and communication strategy of MSZP after they were beaten in 2002. What changed the majority electorate and created a strong majority support base was 2006. The fact is that moved the level of "acceptable" to a whole different place. If you can use police force like Lukashenko against peaceful protesters and nobody within the EU even mentions this.. ..that means that even such crackdowns are deemed acceptable for EU politicians / officials..

[@ANDR0iD]

It is kinda easy when half of the country belongs to your friends and like 95% of media.

[@MAKAKA2024-b7y]

Please, people of paprika, find new leader for your country, not a russofil

[@peterbalogh8138]

Just how difficult is it to understand that NOT being Ukraine-committed does not equal with Russophilia?

[@kalmansovari6878]

He used to be a champion of "russophobia" a before 2012 btw

[@matenagy9244]

@@peterbalogh8138 How come Orbán doesn't criticize Russia over any matter that is condemned by the international arena?

[@europ_everi_nice]

People of paprika. Yes, indeed 😌🌶🌶🌶

[@giantWario]

Dude sorry to break it to you but Magyar has the exact same policies regarding Ukraine as Orban. This is not surprising either, 86% of Hungarians disapprove of European or NATO military involvement in Ukraine. And according to another poll, Hungarians literally see Ukraine as a bigger threat than Russia. You're not ever gonna get a pro-Ukraine Hungarian leader even if Orban leaves.

[@OnilMarteNavarroza]

Not the HUNAGARY on the thumbnail 😂

[@nkanyezitshabalala5256]

"First let's start with some context," to which I would say, 'the TLDR way.' Thank you TLDR for your journalism, I have found it empowering.

[@TheGrat97]

Most of Hungarian people are rightist even most of the opposition, the liberal parties can barely reach 10% combined. But let's hope for a more west-friendly less corrupt government. Anti-migration and EU scepticism will not change.

[@theuralictribes5689]

Why would I as a Hungarian want to be pro west friendly when it's the West who is bullying us 24/7 and even were behind an attempted coup to overthrow the current Hungarian government? Heck no.

[@peterasztalos3599]

correction: Judit Varga (minister of justice) was Magyar's ex-wife, not Katalin Novak

[@the_pinkerton]

Probably because everyone is sick of orban at this point

[@Lejarzamikel]

Everybody?, when did you last come out of the cave?

[@peterbalogh8138]

Apparently not...only the uninformed ones....

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

Orban has quite strong vote base, if you look at the polling.

[@leventelajos5078]

@@peterbalogh8138uninformed ones are Orbans supporters lol. Like thousands of gipsies voting for 2000 huf

[@katalinkozak9869]

@@the_pinkerton not really, he has landslide 2/3 majority in local parliament, and super majority in recent EP election.

[@n_fm]

Viktor Orbán and Fidesz had their first government formed between 1998-2002. During those years, he was far more moderate and liberal. They lost the 2002 and 2006 general elections, which influenced him to radically change his rhetoric. He learned a lot from those defeats and I think this is an important detail to truly understand his background and motivation.

[@SzotyMAG]

what no term limits does to a country

[@geenkaas6380]

No

[@sliftyy]

Tage Erlander of Sweden was Prime Minister for 23 years, but that was no problem.

[@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204]

Both Merkel and Kohl were 16 years chancellor of Germany and their administration is a problem to this day.

[@mozeskertesz6398]

The longest serving mayor of Hungary was mayor for 58 years. Yes, he was mayor even before the position "mayor" was reinstated in Hungarian government.

[@pamparanea]

@@sliftyy And my great-grandfather smoked like a chimney and didn't get lung cancer. See how that doesn't actually tell you anything?

[@xmensch0711]

Great video! Just a quick note that in Hungarian "sz" is pronounced as "s" and not "z".

Not opposition. Only one party.

[@leventebotos6927]

Thank you for covering our country. It’s helpful for us

[@samueltrusik3251]

Finally. Was about time.

[@bababababababa6124]

Considering the pattern over the past decade it’s likely they’ll just fall apart once Orban unfortunately inevitably beats them

[@TheBiggreenpig]

Don't hold your breath, this is more like a sensational article than anything meaningful. They say "earthquake", but it is only a tremor. Ideologically, this new party is closer to Fidesz than anything before, but it didn't make more than a dent on Fidesz's share in the elections. It took voters from other parties. This bubble will burst soon.

[@claudiocalabrese3865]

Craving to see another country destroyed by leftism? Hope your thirst won’t be quenched, then.

[@Gomb224]

Nothing will change, thank God. The opposition will fall apart as it usually does, the new guy is a mess.

[@lippi2171]

​@@bababababababa6124 exactly. Looking at past election results the pattern is clear. Fidesz mobilizes around 3 mil, opposition 2 mil. Honestly, the best possible result for Tisza would be taking away the Fidesz 2/3, but I wouldn't bet on that. No change of government in sight.

[@HungarianFreespirit]

Really interesting analysis! It's fascinating to see how the political landscape in Hungary is shifting. The opposition's rise in the polls definitely sparks curiosity about what the future holds for the country. Thanks for breaking down the potential implications and providing a balanced perspective on the situation. Looking forward to more updates on this developing story!

[@watt_the_border_collie]

Fidesz didn't lose a significant amount of voters. The anti-Orban voters of Hungary are just sick of the incapable opposition, which has achieved nothing in the last 14 years and is also suspected to be the beneficiary of the regime. See, there are a lot of failed politicians in the opposition, their failure led to the overwhelming victory of Fidesz in 2010. These failed politicians and political parties can be used by Fidesz to "smear" the whole opposition with them, something they obviously cannot do with Peter Magyar. So as long as the popularity of Tisza correlates with the popularity drop of old opposition parties, there's nothing to be hopeful about. It's mostly the same voters, or some new, just united under a different banner.

[@HA7DN]

My first tought when hearing that an ex-fidesz politican is the leader, is still that he's playing a role, and will join fidesz when elected.

[@lovasip]

Mentioning past opposition movements is definitely sobering. In the past 14 years several "opposition messiahs" emerged. They usually did this on the wake of protests around a certain issue, they built a new opposition party. Then the general elections came and the Fidesz-KDNP coalition (where KDNP is more like an appendage to Fidesz than a party in its own right) secured 2/3 of seats in the Parliament.

[@DGAMINGEN]

Correction to 1:10. Jobbik in 2018 was considered an ethnic nationalist, fascist and anti-semetic party that got condemmed by many European jewish groups. They have since however moderated to a pro-European conservative party and collapsed. The new MH party took many of their voters.

[@jdools4744]

Jewish groups cannot be trusted as a reputable non bias source

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

They still are r@cists. Even relating the Pagers thing in Lebanon to a r@cist conspiracy theory.

[@kuxii_youtube]

100% they were far right almost neo-n@zi party. Since then, FIDESZ crawled further right from its old central position, closer to what Jobbik was. They can barely be mentioned as conservatives 😉

[@levitubak]

False. By the 2018 elections Jobbik already took a huge stride towards becoming a "people's party" and heavily toned down their antisemitic and ethnic nationalist rhetoric, which enabled them to achieve relative success in that years elections. Had they not taken this step, they wouldnt have secured the majority of those votes.

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

@@levitubak Oh, they "toned it down"! Obviously they are notbr@cists anymore... right?

[@pvp216]

Interesting pattern. So, in order to gain more votes, they promise an even bigger spending spree? How will that help with Hungary’s inflation and deficit spending? The same thing happened in Poland, where the so-called "liberals" - who are not different from PiS - promised a massive spending spree on literally everything and now we have the highest budget deficit we have ever seen. I’m not saying Orbán is good, but this party is just Fidesz in a different coat of paint.

[@Kadosknight]

Corruption in itself costs a lot of money, so just by preventing it you have funds to solve a lot of problems. Márky-Zay Péter proved it in his city.

[@pvp216]

@@Kadosknight Yeah, but this didnt work in Poland

[@123_1]

Finally pronouncing 'sz' right! 🏆

[@blotski]

Almost. He says it a bit like z occasionally but at least he is not saying tisha.

[@TabbyEgg312]

Not really, it's still z on fidesz, Magyar is butchered as always.

[@doinked7312]

Actually TISZA plans to fund healthcare by disbanding the "Propaganda Ministry" ran by Antal Rogán. This would free up around 1.265 billion euros each year for healthcare. This has been made very clear by Magyar.

[@madmax6827]

Free up what money? The EU still withholds millions trying to punish Hungary for its independence.

[@arminivanics1916]

@@madmax6827 Free up the money they spend on propaganda right now. Also if you think Hungary is independent and not dancing as Russia whistles is funny.

[@omegaroleplayer1022]

​@@madmax6827 the independence of hungary's corrupt oligarchs, correct

[@madmax6827]

@@arminivanics1916 What's funny is how leftist Hungarians ignore the family-friendly policies of their government while being slaves to Western woke propaganda. Thank God most Hungarians are grateful to live in the most free and safe country in Europe.

[@madmax6827]

@@omegaroleplayer1022 Get the facts before you embarrass yourself further.

[@forianproductions6113]

I am Hungarian. A large part of why TISZA is popular in my opinion is he did something the opposition couldn't for the last decade: make people talk about what they want them to. FIDESZ would always control the narrative, with their propaganda machine they could always make another hate campaign if they needed to. People would protest, then eventually go home and FIDESZ wins again. Péter Magyar was the first person in decades to have an actual campaign, with rallies all around the country, and all of the news was fixated on him for most of the campaign. There are more reasons, but this is one of them.

[@huxham]

FYI, "Magyar" is pronounced more like mod-yar. In Hungarian the "gy" letter combination is pronounced like a cross between an English "d" and a "j". The "a" in Magyar is pronounced like the "o" in "office", hence mod-yar. Apologies in advanced to any Hungarians if my explanation is not completely accurate. 😊

[@blotski]

Good explanation but did you notice you said 'a' is pronounced 'o' but still said 'magyar' was pronounced 'modyar'. What happened to the second 'a'? They are both pronounced 'o' so it's 'modjor'. And yes 'gy' is hard to describe but half way between a d and a j is not bad as an explanation.

[@mozeskertesz6398]

the "a" in hungarian is pronounced like the "a" in "start" or "car"

[@TabbyEgg312]

​@@mozeskertesz6398yep, A in english itself is á

[@aikii5988]

TLDR is hysterical in their anti-Orban day dreams.

[@Robespierre-lI]

How much time do you spend under Orban's desk and does he pay his prostitutes well?

[@albert6970]

Can you make a video about the austrian election? Its very interesting

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I'm Hungarian and I'm glad that TLDR finally got notice of the Hungarian opposition and the Tisza Party as well as realizing, that Orban's popularity is in decline. During this year, Orban lost more than 1.000.000 voters and by the end of this year, I'm more than sure, that TISZA will get more support in some of the public polls than Fidesz. If Orban doesn't announce pre-elections this year, he is practically doomed. Orban caused too much scandals, that will cost him dearly. In 2026, I'll definitely vote for Tisza Party.

[@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp]

Proof reading?

[@csat1078]

Nah they dont even care about being factually right / wrong, a spelling mistake wont bother them :)

[@renard_the_one]

i literally live here, and i can say it is pretty accurate, it's missing some context, but adding it would drag the video out. you could make a 1.5 hour long video on the rise of TISZA

[@csat1078]

@@renard_the_one I live here as well.

[@karisabnyi3137]

Because it is just an ordered video from the people who want the tisza párt to be mentioned outside Hungary.

[@csat1078]

​@@karisabnyi3137 I don't think so. They do this for ideological reasons as much as for financial or direct political ones. Many of them would be hard pressed to point out HU on a map, but have a keen eye on who could help them get rid of the government that contradicts their mass illegal migrant importing politics.

[@moorbarnabas5424]

Finally, I have been waiting for this video for months now

[@reconsoldier135]

I'm surprised Orban even allows opposition to function at this point

[@attilahalmai4590]

you are surprised, because the mainstream media lies to you day and night. Orbán and FIDESZ always won on free elections.

[@Edua1111]

Right? Almost like in a democracy, ohh wait.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

What are you talking about? Opposition always existed in Hungary. Tisza Party will soon gets higher popularity than Fidesz and Orban will be overthrown in 2026. I hate Orban, but Hungary is a democracy. We are not Russia, China or North Korea. I voted for a centrist, anti-Orban party in 2024, nothing happened to me. I'll vote for Tisza Party in 2026.

[@minidreschi2]

@@alfoldmapping5504 It is a democracy if we talking only from voting aspect. Yes. But in any other? (media, vote numbers math, seats etc (like with 44% they get 2/3 in 2014...) It's pretty flawed.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

@@minidreschi2 There is independent media as well. In fact, the most popular news media outlets in Hungary are also independent. The reasons why Orban has 2/3 in parliament is because of the constituencies in the countryside.

[@anuragsinha2013]

I remember reading someone's comment on this channel saying "As usual TLDR gets things half right and half wrong" as if they didn't read because it was too long. Still true to this day about this channel.

[@eroxerox1650]

Enough of the Orban maffia!

[@RafaelPereira-vz5qf]

?

[@noherczeg]

It's not true that Magyar's program has no backing behind it. He clearly stated multiple times that one of the main sources for their spending will be the reclaimed funds which are currently blocked by the EU, because we are not complying with policies / requirements.

[@kaktusztea]

Orbán was also in power from 1998 to 2002 and was in politics since 1988! So he was already an autocratic a.hole, but didn't have the 2/3 majority then. Originally he was a member of the communist party's young org. in the '80s, then in 1988 he founded the liberal(!) Fidesz (Alliance of Young Democrats). After 1994 when the right side of the political teather became empty he flipped side and became "moderate conservative and nationalist", also pro-western. After 2010 when he got 2/3 majority power he flipped side again, became an ultra-nationalist, anti-west, pro-Russia, pro-China, pro-Eastern, pro-autocrat, anti-EU populist a.hole++. He and Gyurcsány ("leftist" neoliberal a.hole) are the curse of Hungary in the last 30 years of politics.

[@theoryianabsolute8777]

Opposé his policies yes, but don't call him like!

[@kaktusztea]

Why not? He doesn't show any respect or dignity to his enemies (not opponents, he treat everybody as enemies). He is treated as he treats others.

[@dark_an3251]

Christmas in Hungary now is just a way to pull the elderly people now. The elderly population don't usually understand what's going on in the country, so by appearing as a good Christian benefits them a lot. Also there are also scandals about giving food for votes. In a nearby town I heard that they were saying that they got potatoes and a little money so they voted for the fidesz. It's crazy, because I thought it was mostly a joke and they gave something more valuable, but no... Just a sack of potatoes and some money which is not even enough for a week of food. It's ridiculous for sure.

[@nokaton]

When people realize that populism doesn't fix any problem.

[@ThomasBoyd-x3x]

Awesome thanks. Brilliant content. Spot on.

[@phalanx9005]

Would be such a shame for the leading figures of the opposition to fall out of some windows :(

[@Sostaska69420]

As a Hungarian love the video, Árad a Tisza!

[@alfoldmapping5504]

Remélem, hogy a Tisza Párt fog nyerni 2026-ban.

[@Boti-vr5hv]

@@alfoldmapping5504 pontosan mi volt jó a programukban? Ja, nekik nincs olyan, miért is lenne?

[@TabbyEgg312]

@@alfoldmapping5504Hát ja.

[@Sostaska69420]

@@Boti-vr5hv Nézd meg a Tisza veboldalát barát…

[@nishant3899]

And i am thinking of learning Hungarian language and looking for job opportunities there. Hey, can you gave me a suggestion for which European language should I learn.And the European country with least foreigner cause I wanna experience there culture😊😊

[@bencemervay]

Just a small correction: the demonstrations after the resignations of Katalin Novák and Judit Varga were not anti-government but pro-child protection and were organised by a few social media influencer. But the rest is good!

[@CGP05]

Very interesting, I did not know most of this

[@arontamasvarosi]

Árad a Tisza!

[@Brandon-c6f]

🤖

[@arontamasvarosi]

@@Brandon-c6f 🍊🍊🍊

[@O0marO]

Orbán was first time in power in 1998-2002, not in 2010. His loss in 2002 was a life-changing experience. By all analysts I heard he was decent in his first cycle, yet he didn't get re-elected. After he got in power at 2010, he used a very different strategy to stay in power.

[@karankapoor2701]

Just anti orban ... they're probably same in all other issues

[@19Szabolcs91]

Not in some of the most important issues like diplomacy and foreign policy.

[@Victor-tl4dk]

please get him out Hungary. Because of what he supports I think he threatens the 'security' of Europe. He's no good.

[@Dmpr35]

Make no mistake, he’s almost as nationalist and/or populist as Orban, he’s basically trying to be like a slightly more moderate version of him, which is a low bar at this point (even though I’ll probably vote for him)

[@xtomistanbulx7140]

The American Dream is literally to move to a place as white as Budapest.

[@Joemoa]

He actually has policies unlike Kamala.

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

Yeah right. The people love him. I dont agree but his people do and thats all that counts

[@laci60]

This is not true. The Tissás do not have a large number of people, they only have sound transmitters.😆😆

[@oliverszabo590]

Árad a Tisza❤️🤍💚

[@maxperience4157]

There is things we need to talk about in hugarian politics and make things clear. Fidesz in every poll every year is under represented and no one knows why is that not even the pollsters in hungary probably the main reason is that fidesz when goes into campaign mode they basically roll the opposition over and the second maybe reason is that the voting districts are won by fidesz mostly and those gives the most representative into the parliament. The eu and municipal election isnt really a great show what and how the 2026 election will go mostly cause fidesz had one if not the worst half year with its scandals and Magyar came at the best time to swipe up the broken opposition as it was stated in the video but day after day more and more things coming up about him not being the handsome blonde prince as he tries to impose himself and today came out an interview with his ex girlfriend (who is in the opposition and was one of the leaders in the 2024 campaign for him) that he is narcistic doesnt really have a plan how or what to do and lot more about his political carrier so far. And to conclude Fidesz isnt really afraid of him that much mostly already oppostion voters came under his banner( which is ironic cause he was in the Fidesz since he was 14 he stated it himself) but right now how things look Fidesz gonna win the next election the real question is more like will Fidesz lose its two-thirds majority or not.

[@Kadosknight]

I sure f*ing hope so they'll at least lose majority, as I'm quite fed up with the laws changing overnight, record high taxation for all the wrong causes, and run-down public services, not to mention the overall mood of the country.

[@urs0r]

FYI: Judit Varga was married to Péter Magyar's - not Katalin Novak.

[@IrenESorius]

Hunagary,, 😅

[@warb635]

The question for me is more: why did it take so long?

[@fighterguard]

Hunagarias (that's what the thumbnail says 😆): Please vote Orbán out. We (the rest of the EU) are sick of him, and I know you're sick of him as well. Please get your ducks in a row and kick out your corrupt dictator. Edit: the thumbnail is correct now. But it did say "Hunagary" for several hours

[@csat1078]

@fighterguard what are you sick of exactly? I don't particularly like his personality but talk about policies. What is it particularly that you have any issue with. And again: it matters if you disagree with something or you deem it illegal or its just inconvinient for you.

[@gaborrab4785]

@@csat1078he’s a Russian and Chinese puppet, a trojan horse of the EU and NATO. Planning to give no-check work permit for Russians and Belorussians now, letting Chinese police roam the streets of Hungary, letting Chinese agents cover a Tibetan flag with the flag of China that a Hungarian politician hanged, Orbán is the worst enemy of Hungary, and we don’t even talk about writing his own constitution and rewriting the election laws to his whim. He is prime minister for 18 years, the last 14 he ruled with near total power.

[@fighterguard]

@@csat1078 for starters, his cozying up to Russia, the greatest enemy of Europe, and his opposition to aid for Ukraine. Second, his full opposition to EU values: democracy, rule of law, separation of powers and freedom of speech, religion, and the press. Orbán has consolidated a lot of power onto his own hands, weakening the judicial branch and the Constitutional Court. His sponsorship of Christian schools, and Islamophobic rhetoric and policies are completely opposite to the EU's ideals of freedom, equality, and separation of church and state. Third, his anti LGBTQ+ policies are just disgusting and unacceptable. Instead of pushing for more equality and freedom, Orbán is fostering discrimination and human rights violations. He obviously doesn't like the EU. He doesn't contribute anything to it, but he does oppose many resolutions that everyone else agreed on, making the entire union worse for everyone. If he dislikes the EU so much, should just leave. We are not going to accept his fascist views, and he is not going to accept our liberal and progressive ideals. He's a liability to the entire union, providing zero benefit, and far too many problems. We want Hungary to be more aligned with the EU. But if Hungarian people keep voting for him and his party, I guess that means the Hungarian people also don't want to be part of the EU, and should vote to leave, like the UK did. Is that enough for you?

[@sqpreme4740]

​@@csat1078 maybe he doesn't like it when a corrupt prime minister uses tax money of the people of other EU countries for his (and his friends) personal gain

[@mastermindd]

@@fighterguard Some of this can be applied to other EU members and politicians as well, it's just Hungary's case that's the most prevalent. Be honest to yourself and us at once, and express openly, that these negative vibes mostly originate from Orban not supporting Ukraine.

[@YesMr-q9j]

maybe spending all money on yachts instead on schools won't help shit

[@markymark7247]

Tisza's platform can mostly be summed up with "Fidesz without the corruption." It's still a euroskeptic, far-right, Christian nationalist platform it's just that it loathes Orban and ilk (which makes sense given he's a Fidesz defector). The problem is that the rejection of liberalism means the rejection of liberal values like equality, rule of law, and open government; the corruption in Fidesz is not just Orban, it's the ideology.

[@DavTitan]

We don’t need liberal values in Hungary. We need a strong economy, a good healthcare and school system. Look what happened in Western Europe due to liberal way of thinking.

[@ahaveland]

@@DavTitan Liberal values are human values. Liberal literally means "free".

[@limitedf4k348]

Don't you realise that the single and main reason why they are not in a coalition together with other globalist parties is that us, the people wouldn't vote for them if Tisza would be in the coalition? Basically they are deceiving the people with their narrative making it look like they are different from the globalists meanwhile the reality is they all think the same way and want the same thing, but this is how they can sell it to us and then when they are elected nobody will care about what was said back then or what is said right now and they will be able to do anything they want to. They'll hype something up thus the topic of discussion will change to that and it's all forgotten. Tisza is basically the party Democratic Coalition but wearing a Conservative Jacket.

[@limitedf4k348]

@@DavTitan Exactly, completely agreed!

[@almosmajor8288]

Fidesz doesn't have any real ideology they simply use various issues as a shield to conceal their corruption.

[@redder-l8c]

This video misses a key part of hungarian politics and Tisza party's relation to the political field. It is not about to defeat Orban... That did not work in the past because the opposition were visibly inadequate to run the country and has their own corruption scandals. Tisza is about defeating the system (the government, and its opposition), not just Fidesz.

[@kims4149]

Is it me or Ben pronunciation of Peter Magyar's name off ? Shouldn't it be a hard g sound ?

[@Dzoseff]

Magyar is hungarian word. Looks similar to english word but hungarian pronanciation is different. You can try to use google translator and hit the sound icon to compare it. There is no hard G there.

[@CatholicSatan]

No, it's Hungarian and sounds more like "dj".

[@19Szabolcs91]

No, "GY" in Hungarian it's a soft sound, specifically (had to look this up) a voiced palatal plosive, like in the French word "Dieu". This sound doesn't really exist in English, so especially for a Brit, the prononciation in this video was pretty accutate.

[@derekscanlan4641]

I always like learning stuff like this. Cheers, folks

[@kims4149]

@@Dzoseff I see thanks for clarification!

[@WLDB]

About damn time.

[@AIEnhanced-ts5ko]

So the alternative to Orban is another younger Orban.

[@boomerix]

Pretty much Hungarian politics for the past 100 years.

[@csillapalinkas7027]

No, no. He is not.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I totally disagree as a Hungarian.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

@@csillapalinkas7027 Sajnos pár ember azt hiszi, hogy Péter Magyar nem különbözik Orbán Viktortól. Sőt, már olyan hozzászólásokat is olvastam, akik szerint a Tisza Párt egy Fidesz által létrehozott kamu ellenzéki párt.

[@almosmajor8288]

As a Hungarian, I would say that he is not like the current Orbán; rather, he's more like the version of Orbán from 1988.

[@danielnagy1400]

To be fair, we Hungarians have a tendency to select a messiah from oppressors and Peter is no different. His voters became just as radical as Fidesz voters (but Pete boi did in months), he is bashing everyone who raises fair criticism as a propagandist (even though I had never voted to Fidesz), doesn't have a real plan on how to govern Hungary other than shouting things others had said in the last 14+ years. He divided Hungary just as much Orban and Fidesz (or as Trump in America) and accepts no nays. Oh, and he tries to paint the past (when he was still a member of Orban's party) is better than the present (it is not). He also claims that he has documents and recordings that could cause the fall of Fidesz but never leaked anything big. He and his party basically disabled Budapest's city council bc he doesn't want to work with the green mayor of BP (who is very well liked) or with its faction. But to be honest, that's what we deserve. Noone who took part in dividing, robbing and oppressing the country should be allowed to gain power. But we hungarians are unpretentious. Don't fall for Peter Magyar. He is just much of a populist as Orban and Trump and every other alt right leaders. Oh and btw WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBRES OF TISZA. Like they've never given even an interview, they didn't participate in the campaign, THEY DID NOTHING.

[@viggov4594]

Each of the EP members of TISZA gave interviews. A main goal here is to finish the fidesz rule, and form a honest governement. Peter Magyar seems just like the right person for the job.

[@danielnagy1400]

@@viggov4594 an interview is not enough, and the main goal is not just to end the Fidesz rule (which is the continuation of socialist rule, lets be real) but to end the cycle of "from oppressor to messiah" because that is the only way to have an honest government. Peter uses the same tools as Fidesz thats why he is so popular and dangerous. Literally Orban 2.0. No national hero may divide the nation. Gyurcsány did. Orbán did. And now Peter does. And right now in Budapest's city gov Tisza literally paralyzed everything so much that the factions couldn't even agree on how BP's gov should work while Tisza has no representatives in the districts' own government. They're literally there to paralyze everything. As I said no oppressor who enjoyed the regime may become a hero.

[@Alien.Musk666]

Inventor of Project 2025 is in Hungary working with Orban. He is making himself the King.

[@JaydenGK2004]

Talk about propaganda paying off sounds like the corporate MSM has been working overtime.

[@seansmith3058]

Premature obituaries seems to be a specialty of this channel.

[@theuralictribes5689]

Once again I love how everyone says Hungary is a corrupt dictatorship yet show no evidence for it. Cherry picking from fake news and then presenting it here as propaganda exposes far left liberal Western Europeans to be what they claim to fight against. Everyone who isn't a Hungarian should mind their own business and stay out of our country's business. I hope the EU will be no more. 🇭🇺👍

[@chrisalex82]

@@theuralictribes5689 bro is brainwashed 💀🙏

[@theuralictribes5689]

@@chrisalex82 The only one who is brainwashed about Hungary is you. Explain to me how is Hungary a corrupt dictatorship when the EU themselves sent their top investigators to Hungary to do a full scan and check of the entire Hungarian government and system, and found 0% of corruption, 0% evidence of dictatorship and 0% of Government media control. The fact that those like you who still call Hungary a corrupt dictatorship but show no evidence despite that evidence was provided to prove Hungary is not the type of country the propagandists like this channel portrays, shows how much of racist Hungarianophobes you are only because you don't like the politics of another country which you can't even find on the map btw.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I agree, that Hungary is not a corrupt dictatorship and that the EU spreads fake news about us. But Orban is still a big fraud and extremely corrupt. Also, the EU is a free, economic alliance with democratic principles. Most of the trades of Hungary are with the EU.

[@knoll9812]

Why don't you just leave?

[@zolkaa6618]

Im hungarian so i can say my opinion right? We are in fact a corrupt dictatorship. If you need evidence just look at the amount of money we got from the eu, and compare it to the state of the country. The state of the hospitals, transportarion, education and the fact that you cant go 30 minutes without blatantly false government propaganda. What more do u need

[@InHellBaby1]

Orban must go. Question is, will he pull a Trump and try to cheat his way in.

[@robertoswald4861]

TLDR glossary: Left-wing social spending: admirable Right-wing social spending: irresponsible

[@ThunderFarter]

yes

[@PeterPeter-pr2hi]

Social spending is good when it is for creating a welfare state. However, we are far from that, as our infrastructure is crumbling, our hospitals are in bad shape and our education is getting worse and worse. Most of our social spending went to construction projects that look nice and gave jobs to people for a while, but ultimately didn’t accomplish much in the long run, or handing out random tax breaks that had to be redistributed elsewhere because the government still needs taxes to function. Social spending which is deliberately planned is good, but when it is done just to secure votes and they immediately turn to austerity afterwards (which is what happened in 2022) is not good.

[@ThunderFarter]

@@PeterPeter-pr2hi That's why I'm voting Mi Hazank

[@balintrab3614]

A Hungarian citizen here who's looking to see the country heal from 2026: IN A NUTSHELL, As of November 8th, 2024, TISZA's nationwide popularity stands at 43%, which has either matched or, in some measures, even surpassed FIDESZ's popularity of 39%. This is encouraging for those eager to see Orbán ousted; however, it is still not sufficient to unseat this corrupt regime in the 2026 elections. Since 2010, FIDESZ has exploited every opportunity to manipulate the Hungarian electoral system. In the National Assembly, 106 members are elected from single-member constituencies, while 93 members receive their mandates from national party lists. TISZA appears to have gained a slight advantage in this context. Peter Magyar's next step is to appoint TISZA representatives in all 106 single-mandate constituencies as an endeavor to win the bigger chunk of the pie. These representatives will face off against FIDESZ candidates in one-on-one contests for a relative majority vote. This aspect of the Hungarian electoral system largely determines the balance of power and the distribution of seats. FIDESZ has gone to great lengths to manipulate the rules and regulations in their favor, benefiting from practices such as gerrymandering, wasted votes, and convenience voting through untraceable postal ballots. Furthermore, they have effectively monopolized nearly all media outlets, keeping millions of people captivated and creating the illusion that FIDESZ is the only solution to their problems. Without their influence, the narrative suggests, chaos would ensue. The elderly and pensioners, the under-educated, community workers, and anyone whose survival depends significantly on government social security policies are key groups to consider. If Peter Magyar and his TISZA party fail to identify local candidates, politicians, leaders, or patriots whom communities can trust and support, people may be hesitant to vote for anyone other than FIDESZ due to fear, intimidation, and uncertainty.

[@lolomma1341]

this dude just a kid!! dont think body will be ok for hungary !!!!!!!! orban is the man hands down

[@AdamAdam-cq8zo]

Most corrupt goverment who ruined a country in 14 years by stealing everything they could and now their downfall has started.

[@markfeeer2149]

Paying for the things Magyar want migth not be that hard when the are not stealing the tax money.

[@mjstbnsn6294]

Well Donald Trump still loves him.

[@RafaelPereira-vz5qf]

Victor orban and Donald Trump are good presidents

[@stanmarsh2768]

Poor dude doesn't even know how to read numbers in english and they put him in charge of presentations.

[@leometz7287]

Calling Jobbik conservative is an interesting way to describe far right extremists

[@tiborklein5349]

They moved to the center in 2018 after losing the election. A bunch of them left and made a separate (far-right ) party called Mi Hazánk.

[@mmaty8775]

at this point even breathing air makes you far-right according to you :D

[@happybalint]

they're all the same

[@jabloko992]

@@mmaty8775 Nah for real, Jobbik is actually Far-right, their name literally means "The right-er" or "the one even further to the right", it's on the tin.

[@jabloko992]

@@happybalint És pontosan az ilyen ostoba paraszt beszédért van Orbán! Meg is érdemlitek.