Why Starmer is Already Less Popular than Sunak

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

Winning 66% of the seats on 33% of the popular vote still blows my mind honestly.

[@turkmenistan1940]

"democracy" 😂😂😂

[@andreaspatsalides1914]

80% of voters did not vote for labour

[@robc1014]

And only 60% of eligible voters even voted so it’s an even smaller number of support nationwide.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

No he won 66% of seats on 21% of the electorate vote. England doesnt do Democracy anymore than it does the rule of law.

[@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219]

Welcome to first past the post voting.

[@Andrewhedgehogs]

People voted the Conservative out rather then Labour in

[@FSMDog]

Tell me - what is 'Labour' about them?

[@Bushflare]

@@FSMDog The ordeal of having to live under them.

[@SammyInnit]

People didn't really vote Labour in. FPTP got Labour in. 66% of the electorate put their votes elsewhere.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

The swapped out one Tory party for another.

[@djmattblack]

It was pretty much a case of "anyone but the Tories"

[@adam7802]

The fact he was criticising the Tories for this whilst abusing it to the fullest simply shows he's another out of touch hypocrite.

[@danielebowman]

It goes to show just how many 'political stances' are performative virtue signally. They either don't care or they always think it's fine that their gifts/donations/allowing rich backers into number 10/nepotism/etc is fine, but it's only bad when the other side does it.

[@ericajohnson3504]

@@danielebowman well if you check the Other Side (Tories) are still doing it with even greater quantities of donations. Just no one is mentioning that.

[@Evan_Gr]

Bring me a cloud to fall from, as we say in Greece. I don't know what people thought that will change with him...

[@DannyBBom]

@@ericajohnson3504 Nonsense. Keir accepted more than 2x donations compared to the next MP, who is also from Labour. If you have evidence that Conservative MPs are getting even greater quantities of donations, it means that they have not reported it. You need to report this to the police.

[@adam7802]

​@@ericajohnson3504 Nobody is oblivious to the Tories being corrupt, so you can drop the whataboutism right there. More importantly, what people like you seem to fail to grasp is Kier was the first in line to criticise them for this whilst claiming a labour government wouldn't be sleazy.

[@FuzzyRiy]

People keep calling it gifts, It's not a fucking gift, it's a bribe.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Lobbying needs to be called what it is

[@pastalovertwentyseven]

As long as they’re declared it’s fine. Otherwise parties couldn’t receive any donations what so ever because they’d all be bribes lol

[@FuzzyRiy]

@@KSzkodaGames We voted out man, accept the result and get your autism checked.

[@the1andonlytitch]

The overwhelming winner was the non-voters

[@2dradon2]

Every party in power has this, at least starmer has declared them all legally. In the past the problem was some would not even acknowledge them.

[@RFXZ67966]

Interesting. If this were an African or Asian country would we call them gifts or bribes

[@Gallalad1]

Gifts. This happens often. What makes a bribe a bribe is obvious pay for play. We've not yet seen any proof of pay for play. For example, when say, Huawei or Ericsson pay for a fancy dinner for an African minister its not called a bribe, even though it is to build good will. But when Huawei buy him or her a gold watch and next week Huawei get a new contract then that's rightfully called a bribe.

[@GeorgeOneEleven]

​@@Gallalad1I envy your naivete. Every single gift is a bribe.

[@bhatra10]

Pakistan PM is in jail for much less gifts

[@blueblack3591]

Such a double standarts

[@Dharma_and_Ahimsa]

Haha corruption in Asia is much worse. Ever looked into South Asia or South East Asia. Maybe not east Asia I suppose

[@Namodeus]

Will the UK ever elect someone they like? This is getting ridiculous

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

With a FPTPS system? NO WAY!

[@robc1014]

Not with how our faux democratic process functions.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

Too many dumb stupid people vote based on what they hear and read in the media.

[@Namodeus]

@@jeffcxx the approval ratings are already low

[@CritLoren]

@@jeffcxx speaking for the 66% of UK who did not vote for labour

[@narvuntien]

No one wants more austerity, and they came in, claimed the budget was trashed and they need to cut everything. That is literally the opposite of what people wanted

[@robc1014]

You’re telling me you didn’t want more stagnant wages? Rising costs and worsening of literally every service provided to the people? 😂

[@WalterKhayyam]

People never want to bear the costs of their spending (be it debt or taxation). But if you want the spending, you have to pay for it - and we haven't for decades, and we can't vote that away.

[@CritLoren]

@@WalterKhayyam then tax the rich and the corporations, the corporations that funnel money out of the economy more than the rest.

[@robc1014]

@@WalterKhayyam what is it exactly you’re getting at? We’re taxed more than ever, our services are more dysfunctional then ever and austerity, the very thing that was implemented to “reduce the deficit” took it from 75% of gdp to 96% of gdp in 14 years whilst seeing basically zero wage growth, cost of living crisis and a housing cost crisis. The spending system is broken clearly. If you keep increasing input but the output keeps worsening theres an issue with the machine (government).

[@gaarakabuto1]

​@@CritLorenah okay, so all the rich have to do is just move their bases in Dublin (which have been done numerous times in the past) where the tax is next to nothing and remove serious budget from the economy of the UK and probably remove important labour that the company was utilising. Tax the rich is the stupidest thing coming from people who don't understand basic politics. It initially came from liberal parties that had a very complicated legislation regarding relocating and boosting start ups that was eventually followed by increased tax (that were meant to show in infrastructure that would decrease the cost of operation of various companies on top of that) and has turned into "just press the button to solve all the problems and do a booboo to the bad rich people".

[@Terrainahead1]

As Frank Underwood said “Democracy is so overrated” 66% of the seats, 33% of votes 😂

[@munkbok]

we have a rigged voting system

[@munkbok]

reform got 14% of the vote and less than 1% of the seats

[@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532]

​@munkbok greens got 7% of the vote and got 4 seats, Liberal Democrats got 13% and got 72😂

[@munkbok]

@@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532 what a wonderful "democracy"

[@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532]

@munkbok plus how many mps were parachuted in for all major parties, labour especially to get rid of anyone slightly critical of starmer

[@jamessteel9016]

5 years to turn it around, but the sleaze needs to end now.

[@lighting7508]

Tbf isn’t he declaring all the gifts? I swear he’s playing it by the book 🤷‍♂️

[@adam7802]

@@lighting7508 Being legal doesn't mean it is morally justifiable. This is basically bribes and favours, let's call it out for what it actually is.

[@lighting7508]

@@adam7802 I don’t disagree but compared to lobbying this is a drop in a bucket. I can’t bring myself to care that much 💀 I wish lobbying was just illegal

[@Bushflare]

@@lighting7508 Maybe both things are bad and indicative of a lack of the moral fibre required of a good leader?

[@SammyInnit]

​@lighting7508 Tbf, does that make a difference? The man's taking tens of thousands from practical strangers. It's pay to play; always has been.

[@crazycjk]

This comment section is hilarious, everyone finding out that the 2 party system is working precisely as intended. Whaaaat, Sir Keir Starmer accepts over 100K of gifts and isn't for the regular working class person!? I am SHOCKED I tells ya! Sidenote - first time seeing this particular presenter, and really like his delivery.

[@k.umquat8604]

With an emphasis on the "Sir"

[@peterfireflylund]

He’s been there for years.

[@Jim90117]

Weaponising the justice system, threatening the population that they will face the full force of the law for speaking out about societal issues, condeming the Rwanda scheme whilst now planning to implement an Albanian scheme, committing to the potential deaths of thousands pensioners this winter by cutting the winter fuel allowance for 90% of them, accepting large 'gifts' and giving access to Downing Street for those who donate 'gifts'. It's been 81 days Prime Minister.

[@thomashowe1509]

I can’t believe he spent all that time condemning Rwanda yet it seems he’s going to do a copy of it in Albania. Even if that works why did you copy and paste and plan that’s ready to go, scrap and it then take the plan and do it with another country. This guy is terrible at politics my god

[@Cookinlikesanji]

AN ALBANIAN SCHEME

[@billyfox6368]

The winter fuel allowance is now just means-tested. The fact that it wasn't already was insane. It's not killing pensioners.

[@JeffBilkins]

I'm amazed about the type of people who wash up in the leadership positions. Like the necessary attributes to make it there are also the worst to actually do the job.

[@ivancho5854]

I've come to the conclusion that the last decent politicians we had served in combat in war. Since the fall of the Soviet Union there hasn't been a credible threat to the West. This has resulted in us participating in pointless wars which don't benefit us in the slightest and politicians who are simply all corrupt self serving power hungry parasites who work exclusively for themselves and not for the people nor the nation regardless of their political leaning. They're all traitors.

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

Ochlocracy, general public have minimal impact on it's elities, not really UK specific issue.

[@yurisei6732]

We need to realise how lucky we were to elect Clement Attlee after WW2, a man who was considered an inept politician, but whose government gave Britain all of the great things that the Tories have had to spend so long demolishing. We need more Attlees.

[@ivancho5854]

@@JeffBilkins My comment was deleted. KZbin is bang out on order on that one. 😡

[@chris6ix.]

Stop calling them gifts. They're bribes.

[@yurisei6732]

Starmer's messaging isn't just pessimistic, it's sadistic. He takes every opportunity he can find to reassure us that not only are things not going to get better, he's committed to actively making them worse. The only thing so far he's tried to achieve is closing the black hole, which is a waste of money.

[@ragnarironspear1791]

As popular as a fart in a space suit

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

Reasons to accept bribes: 1. It's my birthday 2. My daughter likes Taylor Swift 3. Everyone takes bribes 4. I need to dress nicely 5. My wife likes expensive underwear

[@dannyarcher6370]

What are you talking about? Everyone loves their own brand.

[@alanrobertson9790]

At least a space suit has a separate air supply. 😄

[@jhp1045]

The torries and Labor are just the sane parties with different colours. Why is anybody surprised that this is happening?

[@alistairmonro]

Only those old enough to remember why the Tories got into power for so long.

[@PwerRanger01]

real. Need to vote nationalist to get fix.

[@personalemail9329]

That's not what this channel and it's fans claimed.

[@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084]

Guys, your studio looks immaculate... but the piece of cardboard under the microphone holder is breaking a little bit the vibe 😀

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Hey, that tabletop is expensive! Don't want to damage that varnished wood with the Elgato clamp

[@MyCygnusX1]

Hahaha

[@harrypainter7472]

Honestly I was too distracted by the hot dude to even notice it

[@Aubrey2004-j4k]

@@harrypainter7472💀

[@ohyeahyeah5246]

And their shitty lighting

[@DalazG]

I remember how excited TLDR were when Labour got elected. Still seem fans but less so

[@Bushflare]

"But I do not want to reap!" cried the farmer. "Then why, o unwise one, did you sow?!"

[@quiquemarquez3211]

Were they? Their enthusiasm was pretty low key and more journalistic in nature than personal.

[@maxel499]

@@quiquemarquez3211well they definitely more pessimistic now.

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

To quote ISB supervisor Belvin "It took the combined ingredients of idiocy, ineptitude, and total disengagement for this farce to have reached the full apex of incredulous disaster."

[@IshtarNike]

Love an Andor quote!

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

@@IshtarNike Me too.

[@FakenameStevens]

What a quote! I kind of want to drop this when talking to people about a total flop but I know I can't.

[@dylancarr8415]

No one wanted Starmer, we just didn’t want Sunak.

[@j.4332]

Anyone that voted Labour because they were unsure ive no sympathy for.Other parties were available.Lib-Dem,Reform,Monster Loony etc..

[@AF2277S]

By “we” you just mean people who were led to believe you voted for the person in charge of the party, not the party itself. I hope you guys do the same thing to labour when he steps down “we didn’t vote for you”

[@arhamkhan923]

Britain should have voted Corbyn back in 2019.

[@j.4332]

@@arhamkhan923 Nah.We would by now be speaking French,or German.Or N Korean.Or Arabic.

[@arhamkhan923]

@@j.4332 How does Corbyn getting elected in 2019 make most of Britain speak French, German, Korean and Arabic by 2024?

[@_Azurael_]

I understand the brits dont want austerity, but I don't think they want to be lied to. Saying he needs to be positive is completly stupid. What he needs is to present solutions to the problems of the UK, and stop policing facebook.

[@atrlawes98]

The doom and gloom can also be reckless. There are some positive signs in the economy and by talking it down this can actually translate into negative economic outcomes as it will wreck investor and consumer confidence.

[@Dieu_regne]

For putting innocent people in jail for thought crimes, that's why.

[@olliesmusic2586]

Inciting violence against the police. They're lucky not to be referred to as terrorists.

[@HeortirtheWoodwarden]

​@@olliesmusic2586The current UK police is an arm of tyranny. It's very easy for a tyrannical regime to vanquish dissent by labeling it as "terrorism".

[@scott2452]

@@olliesmusic2586 Honest question…are you not aware of the cases he might be referring to? Those arrested for just posting stickers? Or Facebook posts?

[@olliesmusic2586]

@@scott2452 2 men were convicted. They pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred. If they were arrested, they weren't convicted.

[@LEE3R0Y]

​@@olliesmusic2586 actively avoiding all the news on these topics, shame on you

[@Barnet310]

I didn’t have high hopes but I’m honestly shocked how bad of a politician he is. His first major announcement as PM was that the country has to endure more pain. Then gets embroiled in an easily avoidable scandal

[@thomashowe1509]

And after that budget I doubt he can come back from it. He’s depressed the entire country with his doom it makes you sick. Every day it’s saying how bad the country is, eventually you need to stop that if you want to go anywhere. The scandals have done damage that will stick in people’s minds for a long time, just like the criminals in lambos. This is why Labour are never in power.

[@Anverse-14]

​@thomashowe1509 and to see that this POS is the one who kicks out corbyn because he was "bad" at his job.

[@marciojpcardoso]

In a democracy, you'd think it would, wouldn't you?

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

The UK is not a Democracy. It never has been.

[@sebastienrodin8329]

Democracy is a spectrum. Every democratic system has non-democratic elements. Having representatives instead of voting for everything as a whole population is inherently less democratic.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

@@sebastienrodin8329 So which part of our system IS Democratic then?

[@sebastienrodin8329]

@@takenoprisoners-u3x the bit where we vote?? Yes there are caveats to the elections of MPs , but on average the more popular candidate will win, on average the less popular candidates will lose.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

@@sebastienrodin8329 NO the bit where we vote returns Governments with MINORITY SUPPORT. The present Government has 21%. Try again.

[@j.4332]

His massive overreach over the riots.We need an enquiry into whether or not he tried to influence the judiciary to give the harshest possible sentences.People got years for writing hurty words.Surely a suspended sentence in those cases would have been appropriate?Actual rioting yes,writing i dont think so..

[@epicmonkeydrunk]

Yes its not very fair when their is a harsh judgement on all , but only a few deserve it. Reminds me of something...

[@casualobserver2000]

the issue is that a vote against the Tories was not a vote for labour, but hes acting like it is and doing all the worst things labour tend to do . Hes given the unions everything they asked for, hes wants to go even further on prosecuting internet communication, and hes got no answer on immigration or the cost of living. Even NHS funding is now about "prevention" which sounds like code for "we still wont treat you"

[@IshtarNike]

I'm sorry but there is no such thing as "the unions." That's a bullshit rightwing dog whistle. Those public sector workers have seen 14 years of real terms pay cuts. They deserved every penny of those pay rises, and most of them still won't be up to parity with their wages from 2010 when adjusted for inflation.

[@BenBuckton-te2pm]

The vote should have been more equally split between the libdems, greens and Labour

[@nicolasmatheusfernandesdos6229]

106k in "gifts" is a minor story? Lmfao

[@bevers68]

yeah starmer talking about how bad everything will be whilst he is at a taylor swift concert and arsenal box. Quite out of touch and this needs to be addressed asap

[@jackballard4523]

i dont know if you purposefully changed something about the style that you present, but this was your best presentation, it came off a lot more calm and relaxed, your first few didn't really feel that way but this was terrific, hope you and georgina do more presenting!

[@richardjames3022]

There should be NO political gifts. Front bench politicians should have an allowance for clothing etc.

[@ddunfuh9239]

They get paid 90k a year they dont need an allowance or gifts

[@ratgreen]

Austerity, Doing F all about migration, opening jail doors to let prisoners out free early whilst simultaneously, locking up people for fb comments, letting raypests go with community service, raising the 'cap' on energy prices as the energy companies continue to make record profits, water companies still dumping raw sewage. 'Why does everyone hate me?'

[@bhangrafan4480]

After years of austerity in the public sector, with the NHS becoming dangerous, policing shortages, a housing shortage, underfunded schools and a cost of living crisis, people voted for Labour to get someone to put things right. What they elected was "Son of Thatcher" who believes that always balancing the books is more important than saving the collapse of the welfare state and public services. It is obvious who Starmer is working for, and it is NOT the people who elected him. I have no doubt that when he leaves office he will be even richer than Blair was, and that would be some achievement.

[@strangeke7750]

They haven’t even had a chance to pass their laws yet. Laws that tories didn’t even think about. British public is truly annoying. You guys don’t wanna help yourselves. Always eating your leaders and making things difficult. Let them work.

[@stephenscales353]

There's non danger of any party balancing the books in the next couple of decades at least.

[@noobiamyes4853]

I agree, the books are already balanced in the UK, now is the time for either more government spending or tax cuts

[@bhangrafan4480]

@@stephenscales353 No, but every chance of wreaking everything through neglect.

[@yurisei6732]

Never hire a lawyer to do an economist's job.

[@funny7]

for me its the way he changed so much pre election to post election, but has every really explained why they didn't know what they were going into.

[@davidbates3057]

This is what gets me though, he's not changed. People critical of this Labour who are absolutely not Tory's were pointing out that Starmer was the largest recipiant of gifts from private individuals of any Labour leader in history. They were using Tory talking points about being fiscally responsible and balancing the books all the time, and people pointed out this is the exact same rhetoric the Tories use to justify their own austerity measures. And people pointed out in the month befoe the election that the OBR said there was a £20 billion "black hole" in the spending budget, of which neither party at the time was mentioning or accounting for in their campaign promises. Just as we also knew Wes Streeting had close ties to private healthcare companies -- a terrifying prospect for the guy being set up to be the next healthcare minister. And all of that's saying nothing about the authoritarian nature of the Party's reorganising itself over the years to snuff out any chance for left leaning candidates to get into power by deselecting them and forcing in their own right-leaning chosen candidates. Yet despite many people shouting this from the rafters, many of us were belitted and accused of being Tory plants/simps and trying to get the Tories another 5 years of power.

[@funny7]

@@davidbates3057 TLDR

[@GarfieldtheDestroyer]

He has not changed at all, his shiftiness and interest in implementing further austerity was well known before the election. Anyone who voted Labour expecting a left-wing government was gullible

[@paytonmcdermott9111]

I'm the American context, means testing usually means the poorest people don't get benefits because they don't file tax returns and the middle class don't get benefits because they are considered too wealthy. If that's the case in the UK as well, I don't expect the fuel subsidies to survive the decade

[@Chario_]

It also creates a lot of stigma, leading certain people who would otherwise qualify to not use the benefits. Not to mention that a ton of money gets spent checking people's qualifications instead of just, y'know, actually helping people

[@wanderingsimp2210]

For some context, these benefits in question are not related to a "tax return" the benefits are paid out automatically to peoples accounts that are elligible. Unlike the US taxes aren't a guessing game and we know people incomes. TLDR; The Winter Fuel benefits are automatically paid without applying.

[@paytonmcdermott9111]

@@wanderingsimp2210 Interesting. I figured the British probably had a different system. I think the program will still probably be whittled down as labor and whatever the next incarnation of the British right is alternate governments. The threshold where people start to get excluded will always be arbitrary and the Tories will always argue it should be lower. Eventually they'll say it should be zero

[@meganegan5992]

Not to mention the increased paperwork that'll cause the price per person to increase.

[@josejoao1621]

Let’s not forget about his decision to jail people for saying things online…. Many see him as an authoritarian jailing political opponents. Even worse when this comes at a cost of needing to release other prisoners earlier. Or Labour’s plan to stop allowing MPs to have their own shows, which kinda looked directed at reform MPs’… Nothing of this has helped his perception. He looks very bad to many…

[@cool4345]

The whole "jailed for online comments" thing is a bit overblown. First of all it's been an offense to post hate speech online for a few years now - Samuel Doyle was arrested in 2023, Jake Newsome was arrested in 2013 for something similar etc. I think this was actually introduced under the tories. Also there were only 4 people AFAIK that were arrested during the riots for this - 1 was an immigrant who was impersonating a far right person who was pretending to incite racial hatred, the other 3 were jailed for actually calling for people to attack specific mosques etc.

[@fireblossom9618]

​​@@cool4345Jailing anyone for speech after complaining that prisions are full will always come across as bad. There's no way around that.

[@j.4332]

Yes,its a pity his overreach isnt discussed more,After the riots he took way too much interest in the arrests and sentencing.Thats not his job.If he used his previous influence as DPP to try to influence the judiciary to inflict hard sentences on people that had written some crap,that he didnt like,then it needs looking into .

[@j.4332]

@@cool4345 If you were out chucking bricks at cops then yes you deserve prison.If you wrote hurty words then no,youre an idiot but you dont deserve prison.Suspended sentences or other punishnments would have been apt.

[@j.4332]

@@fireblossom9618 Letting sex offenders out to make room for facrbook posts who were otherwise decent people is just wrong.

[@user-cvbnm]

He's unpopular, and its because people voted AGAINST the Tories, not FOR Labour.

[@longwhite7391]

YAYYYY Zack narrating a main video!! More please

[@Niksg9424]

This episode is a lot more editorialized than others yall put out. Idk if I like it or not..I definitely don't dislike it It does make me think a series of weekly opinionated, editorial type videos from yall would be really neat though

[@lokensicarius9347]

"Donations" like these should be illegal, or at the very least bars you from a position in government. Why is it impossible for people who already live well off and have wealth can't help but whore themselves even if it means betraying everything they claim to work towards?

[@yurisei6732]

Wealth and power are addictive.

[@Minecrafthunt-r6t]

​@@yurisei6732wealth and power shows what you really are and labour is horrid

[@ddunfuh9239]

@@Minecrafthunt-r6thow horrible the government is, the tories, reform and any other party are no better than labour, all parties accept these “gifts”

[@hotcrossandnobuns1850]

Still think it's crazy how the media has a field day with Corbyn - he was the leader the country needed at the time, before getting to where we are now. Corbyn was the first big push to the left in decades and more people voted for him, but we end up with Starmer whose basically a Tory with a Labour badge on. Corbyn had his issues, but considering what Starmer says and what he does, it's crazy that Corbyn has still ended up the person that's constantly criticised for being the reason the party didn't win. £476 compared to Starmers £107,000 is enough to tell you the character of those in charge.

[@yeetdragon1629]

Corbyns issues were massive I agree it's just tragic that of all people we had and have to get are the most neoliberal of neoliberals

[@yurisei6732]

Corbyn was removed by the UK's Zionist lobby.

[@jeongbun2386]

The people are brainwashed by capitalist programming

[@francisco4994]

@@yeetdragon1629 I see the far-right as the maximum expression of neoliberalism, just look at Milei or Project 2025. I mean even Milton Friedman and Hayek praised dictatorships as necessary... Most far-right, populist parties have ties to Hungary and Russia

[@personalemail9329]

​@@francisco4994I'm pretty sure it's the left that praises dictatorship, Justin from Canada praising Chinese CCP and Cuba, so does Kamala and her Maduro glazing. Not to mention far left policies like Marxist, Nazism(alternatively form or Marxism) and communism end up with more dictatorship.

[@CoolSocialist]

*Brilliant Idea Replacing The Tories With Red Tories!* No change.

[@clownofthetimes6727]

He is not poular because he won the vote with only 20% of the UK bothering to vote for his policies. He is implementing things he thinks he has a mandate for. 80% of the country did not vote for Stramer or his policies!!!

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

He's brought this on himself. He said he'd come in and flush outthe Tory "shit" but then his "shit" seems to stink as badly.

[@Anverse-14]

He is trying to flush out the shit with sewage water

[@AlexWard94]

Really liking the new presenter and enjoyed the editorial style. Keep this up!

[@paulbird3235]

They should recieve a salary and NOTHING else. We have had all of this before, cash for questions, moat cleaning, duck houses, and on and on!. Anyone caught taking bribes (sorry gifts) should loose the whip of their party.

[@alistairmonro]

Are bribes not illegal? They should be thrown out of the commons and into a court imo.

[@paulbird3235]

@@alistairmonro Waste of time, we can't process anyone anymore!. Justice has gone into hibernation until next year!.

[@THEBEEEANSS]

Politicians should never receive salaries, they are unnecessary.

[@paulbird3235]

@@THEBEEEANSS Well I am sure we would be no worse off without them! 😆😂.....

[@ddunfuh9239]

They do have a salary its £92,000 per year

[@michazawada4408]

I feel TLDR is going in a very wrong direction, all I see recently are forced just about 8 min video to be able to have 2 ad breaks to make more money but out of that only 5-6 min is actually any content, rest is sponsor stuff and way too lengthy intro. I feel you guys run out of steam and now are on cruise control, feeding some crappy news snippets. Sorry, I learned to expect more from this channel

[@bp-lx7lf]

What’s the alternative? Reform? Grifter Nigel and 30p Lee? People have such short memories it’s painful.

[@PeIeus]

cope. brace for the Starmageddon enforced by Starmtroopers.

[@j.4332]

Reform will win lots more votes at the upcoming local elections in May.Labour are likely to be hit hard.Nigel a grifter?What about Starmer with his £1000 glasses?Or Rayners "official photographer" at a mere £60000?

[@chrise202]

Can you not call them Gifts please? Every single HR induction course out there calls this BRIBE

[@Antipaxos_Nadja123]

I think part of it might also just be his personality, yes his policies are awful but the way he justifies them is just so arrogant, you'd think he was some messiah when in reality he basically won by default

[@Anverse-14]

For the next 5 year, it should be a duty for the greens, independents, snp and libdems to raise more awareness and support to kick labor into a corner..

[@stevem3997]

We wanted Tories and their policies out. But we've ended up with Red Tories instead. So many issues could be fixed by simply taxing the rich and renationalising infrastructure. It's not rocket science.

[@Bushflare]

The taxing the rich thing is a lot harder to nail down than people are comfortable with saying but we could be doing more. Renationalising infrastructure is a no-brainer though, I don't think that's even a party thing anymore, I don't know anyone who is against it.

[@DanielEdwards-]

@@BushflareI’m perfectly comfortable with taxing billionaires, Apple, Google, Facebook, massive oil companies and super massive landlords that own thousands of rental properties. Suits me better than stripping pensioners of say… winter fuel payments.

[@Bushflare]

@@DanielEdwards- Which was doubtless extremely comfortable to say. Now figure out how to actually do it to the extent you'd like to without dealing more damage than you fix. It's possible, it's just extremely difficult.

[@noobiamyes4853]

You don't know how economics works if your every reply to ever issue ever is 'eat the rich'

[@DanielEdwards-]

@@noobiamyes4853 sure, let the working class pick up the tab for everything instead.

[@IRSH-sy5jn]

Winter will soon be here. What as the Prime Minister put in place for the thousands of homeless people living on the streets?

[@j.4332]

Yes,ive noticed Labour have said nothing about the homeless.Just building homes for migrants.

[@3c3k]

So you didn't show Sunak's approval ratings in the entire video?

[@bbbf09]

Not just miserable ... just too sleazy to boot. I'm Labour voter and paid up member . Two weeks ago I recall reading about Starmer's penchant for luxury lifestyles. I thought uh-oh ---but also remained a little skeptical. Then the stories of all the freebies came out week after. All set against AUSTERITY v2.0 - spelt out in very big capitals by multiple dire government announcements. So I've more or less given up already on the guy. 😕

[@thomashowe1509]

It wouldn’t shock me at this point if he keeps tanking and people start making moves. Their majority is an illusion at best based on mostly tactical voting and the right being divided so it’s based on sand not on real support. The locals will be a bloodbath and by elections will go against them. In a way it’s karma for critiquing people for taking money and then you take in more money than anyone.

[@FelixGordon23]

Im a big fan of Zac presenting. He always does excellent work on the podcast, and now brings a new tone to my most watched channel

[@orktv4673]

He has that vibe of "guy put in charge when the others are absent but actually does a great job"

[@Kira-pc4mq]

the uk doesn''t have the whole voting thing figured out. maybe an absolutely monarchy?

[@louis-philippearnhem6959]

2:40 Well Starmer is a lawyer you know… lawyers will be lawyers 😅

[@julianshepherd2038]

Jeremy buys his on clothes. And sits in an ordinary seats at the Arsenal. Because he isn't For Sale.

[@DemonDethchase]

Jeremy was for the many. Sir Keir is for the money.

[@MEHOLE]

He was a terrorist sympathiser and supporter of Diane Abbot. So yeah...

[@danielebowman]

Except to various middle eastern regimes.

[@TheHeninhardenne]

He calls islamic terrorists his friends

[@joncarter3761]

Corbyn is only popular with naive young voters. If any of you had grown up in the 80s and saw him defending Irish terrorists you would have a very different opinion. Weak leaders like him allowed Germany to re-arm and continuously break treaties in the 30s which directly led onto ww2.

[@owenmcginley9380]

Sorry to be nitpicking and at the risk of appearing on the next episode of the Editorial. You mention “Broadsheets” at 4:38 but then 3 of the 5 examples of headlines come from Tabloids or Compact format titles. Only the Times would be regarded as a true Broadsheet. Apologies again for the pedantry!

[@Ziolek.2000]

Couldn't agree more, tbh he really isn't very good at politics, and instead of recognising that his first 100 days should be huge in order to keep the momentum after an election and raise more political capital. It just looks like he used up a lot of his on literally nothing. You ask the average person what they have done in Government and mosr will literally say change winter fuel payments to means testing. Literally the worse answer you want people to think of if your in Government.

[@thomashowe1509]

And when people only associate you with bad things it’s hard to recover. The winter fuel allowance has pissed the country off, but with the budget apparently being apocalyptic i don’t see how they can possibly be associated with anything other than doom. Steal from pensioners, a decent chunk who voted for them and stick it to businesses and private sector workers. This stuff looks suicidal electorally, it is suicidal but they don’t see it and it’s outrageous

[@Clone683]

And this is before the October budget which they said is gonna be "painful"

[@Tragedyflow]

Or maybe it's because he called over half the population far right thugs and mobsters.... oh and also arresting people over "mean" tweets. Just some food for thought....

[@k.umquat8604]

"You're far right if you don't like me"

[@nononono3421]

I really get the feeling that in the UK, politicians really don’t want to be politicians? Like someone broke the bridge to get to politics, so all the ones that remain are those who were already on the other side on vacation, and they decided to squat the place until they can get airlifted out of there, while they complain about how uncomfortable the place is and get on each other’s nerves.

[@JohnPark-xf2gq]

They don't want to do the job just have the perks.lardy bunter boris was the best example.

[@KrisRogos]

If this trend continues, Labour would be foolish to keep him as a leader into the next election, but a 7th PM in a decade is the last thing people want

[@thomashowe1509]

If the budget goes down badly, and it’s apocalyptic as is being all but said, he’s got nowhere to go. Labour are in a dire place among the country and he’s became a symbol of what’s wrong with Britain. Unless we get growth like we’ve never seen, which is unlikely since taxing more and regulating has never created growth ever, he’ll be seen as a failure in top of lying about tax policy. It’s karma really for being so obsessed with power he lied about anything to get there

[@j.4332]

Ill be happy to see this particular little despot doing the walk of shame away from No 10 today if possible.

[@thehighlander6770]

People are realizing that switching from the blue team to the red team won’t make things better when the map sucks.

[@Bosshog-WealthHealthBetterment]

I'm a swing voter who voted Labour at the last election. I very much viewed that the Tories needed some time in opposition, and that would be my main reason for the way I voted. Still, whereas (for me) Labour was unelectable under Corbyn, I felt that Starmer had done enough to manage some of the more far left views of his party, and so should get my vote. I'm not exactly confident the Conservative's would have done any better, but my goodness Labour has been off to a dreadful start. I thought their handling of the riots was dreadful, engagement with unions has been predictably expensive, and really all Labour has spoken about for 2 months was how bad things are. I'm not sure why it needs 3 months to drop a budget, you've been likely to win for months, couldn't you have something ready to go? Like, I know, that's why you're in power. Now, do something about it instead of moaning about the problem you've inherited. You're in an incredible position with a massive Parliamentary majority, now do something with it. No wonder neither party did especially great in the popular vote. As somebody who has voted both Lib Dem and UKIP in the past, I clearly have no problem voting beyond the big 2. But you have to wonder if the Greens, Reform and Lib Dem will gain significantly more seats in the next election if they both continue to look so crap.

[@thomashowe1509]

Honestly the tories need time in opposition for their own sake but at the rate Labour are going all they need to do is chose a right wing candidate and unite with reform in some capacity and they will win. That’s how demoralising they’ve been. Labour have not just crashed they’ve sunk themselves based on hatred of old people it seems, single parents, hardworking parents and the working class. That’s some achievement in a few months. If they don’t present the budget right there could be a leadership challenge and I’m not joking.

[@j.4332]

Should have voted Reform.Everyone with a brain cell should have known Starmer would be an ideologue,and a pretty inept one at that.

[@seamusmcknight3656]

should have voted for literally anyone else. your a fool.

[@archvaldor]

"Still, whereas (for me) Labour was unelectable under Corbyn" It is almost as if you get your information from newspapers and made an awful choice.

[@meganegan5992]

Honestly Starmer focusing so much on the Left made his policies inevitable. All he's gonna be is a Tory with less overt racism.

[@omg.mesohungry]

King Charles really needs to live up to his name and dissolve the parliament already!

[@kathleendavey-w5e]

King Charles is in on it. all best buddies.

[@AidanJohnson-lm7mw]

What!? You're telling me the guy who rolled back LGBT rights the moment he came into office, pejoratively called someone who was shipping asylum seekers off to Rwanda "too liberal" on immigration, and promised to pursue the SAME exact economic and fiscal policies as the Tories doesn't have any political base to fall back on when the going gets tough? Who could have ever seen that coming except for every single person who knows anything about political science

[@AidanJohnson-lm7mw]

also the audacity to come and tell the Harris campaign how to win. I hope her team just ignored everything they said because I've never seen a political party have a more misplaced sense of it own brilliance than the Labour Party. They dropped all their principles and ran as Tories 2.0 and only increased their vote share 1.6%! The Conservatives wrecked the economy and lost 20 POINTS and the Labour Party only benefited because of how dramatically they collapsed around them.

[@MrBurgeri]

Is there a politician in the UK that people actually like? If this Parliament/Cabinet thing isn't working for you, perhaps you should hand absolute power back to the King? (you all love him, don't you? Don't you...?)

[@davidbates3057]

By Parliament/Cabinet thing you mean the cartel of oligarchs that runs the country, right? In that case yeah, why not go back to the King. We're still living under a monarchy anyway, only the King is just a figurehead rather than the guy calling the shots. It's also funny how you make a sarcastic comment about monarchy in defense of Labour at a time when Labour literally just gave the King a £45 million pay rise. But yeah, you're right, they've got to make hard decisions when the country is as broken as it is by the Tories, and giving the King a more than 50% pay rise is just of those things they have to do to get the country back on its feet.

[@fireironthesecond2909]

On god? Yeah I’d take the king. Hell I’d take the King as dictator at this point so long as it gets Two Tier Kier out

[@j.4332]

Absolutely great idea.Bloody Cromwell all his fault.

[@Vivek-zw3ex]

Labour's popularity goes down when they follow Tory budget constraints? Shocking … Instead of throwing aside the Tory fiscal rules and increasing investment, the UK government is doubling down on misery and budget cuts.

[@fernbedek6302]

Maybe Corbyn's little breakaway squad can get more recruits from Labour's left, if this keeps up?

[@elliec4154]

It's not that he's miserable, it's that he's a sanctimonious hypocrite.

[@hammer3721]

I will give you credit for admitting that Sir Kid Starver is crook. Unlike some heavily biased channels like Maximilien Robespierre and PoliticsJoe who keeep glazing him.

[@rob12x56]

I am sure it's cause of the " far right" as usual 😂😂😂

[@yurisei6732]

Victim mentality much?

[@new_fone_who_dis]

He'll let a rapist out of jail to make space for you after that comment Haha 😅

[@PwerRanger01]

@@yurisei6732 is that a joke?

[@francisco4994]

The fari right who praises putin and orban? That far right who will ruin the country?

[@rob12x56]

​​@@yurisei6732 what victim mentality???

[@oweng7987]

He's a textbook tyrant, fitting Aristotle's definition very accurately. I would imagine that's the problem.

[@d.airhorn3702]

right winger spotted

[@oweng7987]

@@d.airhorn3702 Craven, narrative gargling regime sycophant spotted.

[@oweng7987]

@@d.airhorn3702 Craven, narrative gargling, regime sycophant spotted.

[@oweng7987]

@@d.airhorn3702 Craven, narrative gargling, regime sycophant spotted.

[@Burito-tj5ry]

women wouldnt fit Aristotle's definition of women, because they have the same number of teeth than men

[@ryanvinklarek8080]

Starmer is the UKs Jimmy Carter

[@HappyGuy-cn9po]

Interesting thought

[@eddiespeaks]

TLDR peddles this shit party for years and now they're wondering what's actual reality for themselves

[@alistairmonro]

Most of them are probably too young to remember the last time this happened.

[@decoyfox]

He stands for the status quo, when people want change

[@manuelbaliog5211]

His first ever major scandal and mistake. He can't afford to make another one or else he'll end up being the British Francois Hollande.

[@j.4332]

Lets hope hes out before he gets the chance.

[@manuelbaliog5211]

@@j.4332 you don't want instability from him resigning in just 2-3 years. Labour will easily lose to the Tories and disaster will happen once again. He should own up to his decisions, get important policies done, and always work for the people from here on out. By the time he has a second term, he can retire in 2-3 years while Labour has a new leader who will win the third election to keep the Tories completely out of power for 15 years or more.

[@PwerRanger01]

@@manuelbaliog5211 Except labour is useless too. If vote then you are a quisling. Now vote nationalist to get things fixed.

[@j.4332]

@@manuelbaliog5211 2-3 YEARS?I want him and Labour out in 2-3 HOURS if at all possible.I despise them.I want Reform!

[@manuelbaliog5211]

@@j.4332 I see, you're a troll lmao

[@oooshafiqooo]

2:50 Another reason why Corbyn is better, only accepted small gifts that is genuine

[@sdpearshaped831]

Does polling really matter when they're 2 months into a 5-year term?

[@Bushflare]

First impressions are extremely important and it's very hard to turn them around.

[@sdpearshaped831]

@@Bushflarethere is no electoral data that suggests this

[@Bushflare]

@@sdpearshaped831 "First impressions are important." "UH, SOURCE?!" I guess I shouldda heard that one coming but I guess you're not wearing the clown-shoes today. It's common knowledge that the first impression you have of a person creates a heavy bias in your future interactions which is difficult to overcome.

[@tpower1912]

Theresa May, Boris Johnson and Liz Truss had plenty of time left in their terms.

[@scj6693]

i like this new announcer. he has a soothing, chill voice. i'd listen to him narrate an audiobook tbh

[@dannyarcher6370]

Two Tier Keir became PM on a third of the vote. FPTP is the slow kid in class.

[@sladewinberry8283]

This guy and the one lady narrator here have really improved their speaking. Their research and analysis is always great, but those two needed to raise their voices and speak with the confidence they should.

[@NottoriousGG]

He might be following the Maquiavellian adage "Concentrate the application of cruelty to the beggining of your rule".

[@Gh44HZ]

didnt people say the same thing about the tories?

[@NottoriousGG]

@@Gh44HZ good question. The issue as I see it is that in the short run we can't really discern shrewd calculation from room temperature IQ maneuvering.

[@thomashowe1509]

Honestly people never expected much from him since he didn’t even have clear policies to sell and associate him with and won since he wasn’t the government. A lot of his decline was due to the needless decisions like the fuel allowance which will haunt them out of how unpopular this is even among Labour voters. The sleaze issue is serious since he was the one who critiqued taking gifts and now we know he has been taking the piss. A mix of shear hypocrisy, stupid political decision making, lack of likability and openness, and no political awareness has made him the second most unpopular PM in history, and we haven’t had the budget yet. Jesus.

[@DemonDethchase]

Jeremy Corbyn - for the many, not the few Keir Starmer - for the money, not the many

[@danielebowman]

Corbyn has no problem when rich middle eastern regimes with human rights abuses pay him though. Which makes you part of the problem, always willing to see when your opposition does it and blind to when your own side does it their way with their people.

[@michaelkirshner3099]

As an American, it is so odd watching politicians actually face consequences over scandals

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

Public: "Give it to us straight!" Politician: Gives it to the public slightly more straight than usual. Public: "Wwaaaaaaahhh, why is the mean man so depressiing!?" As long as he actually improves things over the long term, I don't care. The public now suddenly demanding that politicians continue painting bad situations as optimistic platforms for progress, is hypocritical at best, and mass idiocy at worst. Gifts aside, which are a problem, at this point I'd like a public with its heads screwed on straight, let alone politicians.

[@davidbates3057]

Not to bite the gaslighting comment that's all too common, but most of us who have been long term Starmer sceptics share your comment of wanting improvement in the long term. The problem is, nothing Starmer is saying or doing shows any sign of things improving. The only positive thing they've done is give public worker payrises, which is nothing special if you know your politics, because no new administration wants striking public sectors in the year they take office -- Margaret Thatcher gave out one of the largest public sector payrises in UK history when she first took power, and I don't think even the hardest Starmer marks are going to suggest Thatcher was a champion for the Working Class. Everything else, whether its defending the two child benefit cap, the removal of the winter fuel allowance, the claiming that the budget is going to have to be hard to meet some arbritray Osbornian fiscal rules, the play on how bad immigration is and how we must do all we can to quell it, the taking of gifts from large businesses, etc etc, is absolutely no different to anything we've seen from the Tories for the past 15 years. And it's ridiculous to me that so many of you continue to lament how badly the Tories broke this country in the last 15 years, and in the same breath go out of your way to defend a Labour government who are doing THE EXACT SAME THINGS! If you truly believe that Tory policy and politics is the real problem, why is it you think the solution to improving things in the long term is to continue doing the exact same thing? This is either mass delusion on a cult-like level or you seriously are just Tory bots who've been set up to defend the current government that's administering Tory policy. What else could it be?

[@j.4332]

Nah,we dislike him.Hes weird and despotic.

[@majorskies7091]

all he had to do was when those girls were unalives was a make a speech about affirmative action and he would have been fine...

[@judahfriedman8516]

It's not Starmer, it's their policies.

[@fireironthesecond2909]

It is absolutely Starmer as well. Two-Tier Kier isn’t innocent

[@michaellucas4873]

It's both.

[@MetalSamantha]

I said from his first day in leadership that he wasn’t up to the job So far, I see no reason to change my mind

[@FSMDog]

Completely unrelated to taking money away from pensioners, failing to give money to kids, failing to condemn a genocide, and behaving like a grifter?

[@j.4332]

Parents get child benefit.They are supposed to buy food with it for their children.There is no "genocide".Israel are destroying a terrorist group.Pensioners are the only victims of Labour.

[@IRSH-sy5jn]

The Prime Minister needs to put more money in people's Pockets so they can spend it in the high street and get the economy. Moving again, cash is the way forward. That is needed in the high street.

[@SneedSeeding]

Between Austerity, the Smoking Bill, and continuing to do nothing about migration I'm pretty sure every single person in the UK has a reason to hate Starmer.

[@THEBEEEANSS]

The simple solution is to ban immigration. Full stop. The UK is heavily overpopulated, so stopping all immigration while allowing people to emigrate freely would reduce strain on every system.

[@delbroox]

If people actually stopped and looked at bills proposales instead of focusing on cheap scapegoats for populists like "MaSs ImMIGraTion!!!" they'd probably be less angry. The Mass Immigration threat is a joke. It was like that the "Yellow Peril" in the 1920 against Chinese people and it seems to me like British people have not disappeared or been killed by Chinese back then. Irish people were called drunk and criminals when they went to the USA and everyone was afraid that they'd steal Americans' jobs...yet it didn't happen...This fear of foreigners is the easiest scapegoats used by politicians since the 1800s to manipulate the public and people still believe it!!!!

[@carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643]

Starmer is so miserable he's managed to infect Zac's cadence and delivery in this episode.

[@marcellinma6169]

New idea: Vote Jeremy Clarkson for Prime Minister Think about it. He's a well known and internationally recognized figure, a champion of British agriculture, industry, and conservationism, brutally honest but funny, and (only) 64 years old. That's prime PM age.

[@piccalillipit9211]

N) - he is a fascist boomer

[@eurostar3739]

The conservatives and Labour wouldn’t have him I think we could see him form his own party or he would go to reform !

[@davidbates3057]

If this comment was made to get a laugh, hats off to you, it was super funny. Unfortunately, these days it's hard to tell whether what should be obviously a joke is in fact serious, and part of me worries this was actually a serious comment, lol.

[@yurisei6732]

Only way I'm ever voting Clarkson is if we get a TV show out of it.

[@thembastoep733]

I have to say tldr is probably the best and most objective news source on youtube or ever

[@danielevans5286]

People always moan that politicians aren’t honest, but when one actually says things aren’t going to be fixable overnight they hate it.

[@davidbates3057]

I don't know what country you've been living in, but the Tories have always said there's no easy fixes and we've no choice but to cut public services and budgets in the short term, while keeping wealthy individuals and businesses taxes down, all to encourage that long term growth and wealth generation for all in the long term. It's that very narrative that justified the last 14 years of austerity that many -- yourself included, I suspect -- claim is the reason our country is as broken as it is. So it's rather amusing how some of you are now going out defending this nonsense just because it's now "your team" doing it.

[@danielevans5286]

@@davidbates3057 Where was that ‘oven ready’ Brexit deal? Where is the 350 million for the NHS? Tories have spent the last decade pissing up the wall and lying about it.

[@landerbennewith6169]

I mean, he can't be =that= bad at politics. He became PM, he's financially set for life now tbh. As if he wasn't already...

[@dnttcfvj1247]

He's quite possibly the most boring man in the world

[@JohnPark-xf2gq]

Boring that make him useful out in the north sea.

[@kathleendavey-w5e]

He is that... what a mindless bore... yawn yawn yawn