Hungrybox vs Jmook - Singles Bracket Losers R4 - Smash Summit 14 | Jigglypuff vs Sheik

[@trashman1791]

even though the lifetime set count is very skewed these guys have banger sets everytime

[@mamotalemankoe3775]

It's insane, it's like jmook is at 49%, he just needs 1% more to pass this test. Set counts truly don't tell the full story.

[@Emil-Roma]

Seeing this live took actual years off my life. Jmook is probably only behind Zain as my favorite player. This is just magical.

[@milvilleromain57]

I got up from my couch restraining from screaming at 3am (in UE)... Really wanted to see JMook do this. Zain and JMook are also my favorite players. Zain really threw against IBDW, it was sad

[@bboard17]

Watching Zain is boring

[@milvilleromain57]

@@bboard17 may you perhaps be a Leffen fan ?

[@Emil-Roma]

@@milvilleromain57 The Zain set was the only time I've felt genuinely bad, because even when he loses it's usually because the opponent has to play out of their mind (like the Jmook reverse 3-0's), but this one just felt like he shut off when he was ahead. That's why the real excitement and heartbreak came from this set vs. Hgod.

[@DesTr069]

The Hbox Jmook rivalry was my favourite of this year. And this set is not exception to that, Jesus that ending was tense

[@amb4368]

Can't be a rivalry if the set count is like 12 to 1

[@iffatowa2210]

@@amb4368 like toph said, almost every set was to game 5. Lets be honest he and Mango might be the only players left that Jmook has to prove himself against. once he finally beats those 2 I don’t think theirs anything separating him from the top of the competition.

[@Tommy-gp3jy]

@@iffatowa2210 jmook has a postive record on mango

[@iffatowa2210]

@@Tommy-gp3jy forgot he beat Mango at Shine 2022 🤦‍♂️, they don’t player very often anyways

[@DesTr069]

@@amb4368 yeah, fair, but nearly all of these sets could have went Jmook’s way, so I see it like a rivalry, but the numbers don’t tell the full story here

[@SSB_Seal]

This has gotta be one of the craziest Sheik vs Puff sets ever played. I'm heartbroken for Jmook but at the same time I think there is a lot to be studied here which is good. Also for anyone wondering, fully charged Sheik upsmash would not have confirmed a kill at 17:50.

[@AerixI]

completely agree it would be a weak hit 100%, prob even without perfect DI.

[@LiveTwinReaction]

Apparently fully charged Zelda fsmash would have done it. But I doubt he would've been able to get it off or even know about that in that split second lol. In the example I saw, he could guaranteed line it up by being right next to puff from the ledge's side then rolling left, full charge fsmash and it'd kill at 67% standing there on FD. But I really doubt anyone would know that, especially in a split second decision like that. If it was me I'd have gone upsmash and not killed lmao

[@Hiten42]

@@LiveTwinReaction Can you even get that off in time on the puff rest? You need to switch to zelda

[@djhooker8782]

@@LiveTwinReaction you will never be able to kill with Zelda f-smash. SDI makes that move never connect if you have a brain

[@cheesemaster6666]

@@djhooker8782 there's a setup where you walk into puff and roll behind. it puts you at the perfect spacing where none of the multi hits hit puff but the finishing hitbox of the f smash does.

[@doctordig7764]

I just want to see Jmook win it all. He’s been so close, yet always falls short. I just hope he keeps at it and gets it over the line.

[@padasenang]

17:45 this whole sequence lmao

[@CheesyBread]

Instead of watching live I’m watching these as they release on youtube

[@danielarana5790]

Me too. Toggling back and forth between youtube and liquipedia

[@beszt95]

why tho...

[@freshfn670]

same

[@CheesyBread]

@@beszt95 I did it to start earlier and bracket with less spoilers since I couldn’t watch earlier today. It worked I’m hyped

[@Im0nJupiter]

Fuck them twitch ads

[@hyperbruv9578]

Why did no one react like that wasn't just the sickest rollout callout ever

[@VijiBeatzOfficial]

Bro I jumped out of my seat

[@SilentMute0515]

emotional investment in jmook beating a bracket demon, it's sick af but a heartbreaker in the moment if you're rooting for jmook

[@JamestheKilljoy]

same story as ever. they were rooting against the Puff

[@JFox4587]

Did hbox go into losers because he lost to hbox in pools? Bro, talk about a bracket demon!

[@NatePhan]

@@JFox4587 Jmook went into losers because he lost to Axe.

[@captainbara1665]

21:25 "Jmook , please take a moment. Take a moment up there. Take a moment. Thank you. Oh! WHAT THE FUCK! Not that moment. Not that moment."

[@logan3917]

that rollout was insane lmao

[@AerixI]

Holy shit one of the best nail biter sets I've seen in a while, Hbox closed it out but damn Jmook is sick

[@JamestheKilljoy]

6:26 that look. i thought he was going 3-1 after that. wasn't expecting this close and crazy of a match

[@mlalbaitero]

I wonder if he does that to see how they feel (like if they got upset at the rest) and then gauges how he plays after that. Or maybe he's just stretching his neck or marveling at jmooks posture

[@2funyuns345]

Pretty sure it was hbox mind games

[@queuedjar4578]

@@mlalbaitero I think he was trying to look at the camera but it switched right at the critical moment.

[@iMacxXuserXx485]

@@mlalbaitero hungrybox likes to play annoying if he knows it will tilt the opponent. He also looks at the player's controller sometimes to know how they will DI. So I think absolutely he was trying to guage how Jmook was feeling mentally to see if he should play more annoying or aggressive or whatever. Very mental player.

[@humbletreestump8134]

Glad to see the pop off meta coming back.

[@petezaman0767]

My heart was beating out of my chest this whole set, glad hbox pulled it out but at the same time sad Jmook lost this one with that fire in him, he’s been playing so well, Jmook definitely has a huge win on the horizon

[@Max-xd9tc]

me being so ready to pop off for jmook and then the goat just does it again. well played hbox

[@TonyDupre]

This might be the best set of Melee I've ever seen

[@2maka5u]

That game 4 took years off my life holy shit

[@hectorhernandez7472]

Next summit we’re gonna need a real time player heartbeat meter I got sweaty and I’m only just watching on KZbin as these are uploaded

[@quantum_leap786]

bro hands down the most tense set ive seen this year. Im so fucking relieved Clutchbox won in the end

[@NatePhan]

Honestly so heartbreaking. I think Jmook could have taken the whole thing if he had just beaten Hbox here. He's beaten Cody a bunch before, recently beat Amsa at LSI and beat Mango at both Shine and Wavedash.

[@ray_9211]

Just look at Jmooks matchhistory on liquipedia. The amount of times he got eliminated by just ONE player is absolutely insane. Axe, for example, also has a really really bad record against hbox, but he doesn’t get to him most of the times. The fact that they played like 13 sets this year, and jmook won only 1, the hydration set, is just mindblowing. Like, we all know Jmook hates to hear it, but picking up Fox is just 10x easier vs Puff. Axe doesn’t even come close to beating Puff with pika, but got damn near this time with Fox. The MU is so fox favoured, that you just need it imo. There’s a reason why he only loses to Fox and Zain. MU is arguably 6-4 for Fox, but sadly hbox is so good at this MU, that jmook probably needs plenty of experience vs him.

[@Michael-hc2hp]

Jmook was not beating Cody this tournameny, Jmook only beat Cody once this year, at Genesis 8, Cody did very well against Jmook at Summit 13, and had a dominant 3-1 at TBH (double 2 stock and a 3 stock). Cody was playing too hot this tournament, he had pretty dominant 3-1's vs Plup and Axe, reverse 3-0'd both Zain and Hungrybox, and won Game 5 vs aMSa. Jmook destroyed Leffen sure, but Cody and Leffen were playing nowhere near at the same level, Cody was playing amazing aside from vs Mango. There, Mango was the dominant one, especially in Grands, but that's because Mango just dominated everyone he played this tournament even more than Cody did, winning every set, and never being taken to Game 5

[@Michael-hc2hp]

@@ray_9211 Lmao the hydration set. That lack of water really did just mess up Hungrybox, I mean, 3-0'd by someone who he's beaten every other time, it is very obvious that the lack of water made Hbox play so much worse

[@Luke-wz4em]

Another amazing match!! These final matches are so exciting!

[@michaelfradley6950]

Honestly one of the most tense and hype sets I’ve ever witnessed

[@itzRemixd]

Dude that Rollout was nutty

[@echospace7347]

Where?

[@amb4368]

@@echospace7347 4th game last stock

[@AsianSensation]

Phenomenal set

[@Mikehy.mp3]

I was on the edge of my seat entire set even though I knew the outcome ahead of time Jesus what a gamw

[@George_Nakhle]

This is my joker moment

[@1brenbot]

One of the best sets of all time

[@PalPlays]

That felt like Salem vs M2K Grand Finals. One of the most entertaining sets I've seen.

[@capitanpastabase6342]

JMook looking pissed this set

[@whatlez]

hbox has farmed him all year. probably sick of running into him

[@noisepollution4473]

this was the best set of summit

[@MUGENTheHuman]

clutchbox in full effect

[@jay-ks1ex]

lmao waffles too funny 21:42

[@kongyang1438]

I was so exhausted for the rest of this tourney after this set. I was sitting on my couch like a fat ass dog. Banger after banger.

[@loganowens623]

THESE UPLOADS ARE QUICK!!! god what a legendary set, so amazing and so close! Jmook future best player, gonna be the best sheik to ever do it (maybe he already is???)

[@joehilliard4486]

Hbox played so well this set. He hardly camped at all and out boxed/scrapped jmook close range in so many situations.

[@louisbowels6858]

21:25 "Jmook, Jmook...please take a moment up there" followed by *silence* into Sheik chain and " WHAT THE _FUCK_ "

[@zRunes]

Single Greatest Rollout of All-Time

[@WillyMacShow]

That rollout was the greatest I’ve ever seen

[@gusmcbean9474]

After so many lackluster fox/puff finals sets this is super refreshing. This is a sick matchup to watch.

[@michaelfradley6950]

Low-key Jmook’s mix-up game plan this game was “charge needle > cancel charge and punish Hbox running at you because he doesn’t want you needling him” he won both games with that

[@Anthony-zl7yz]

I think sheiks need to be more willing to switch to zelda in those hopeless edge gurd scenarios. Once he got sent that far in that last stock it was just a matter of if hbox held ledge and then followed where he landed after the up b. If he switched to zelda after jumping out of hitstun, he could have up b’d either to stage or ledge, and zeldas up b landing on the ground has rly low lag, meaning hbox would have to have been on stage already to smash attack, or wouldve had to read it perfectly and did a ledge jump rest. I think zelda can really help out in scenarios like this, I hope people will start using her for that sorta situation cause sheiks recovery in those far out lengths is basically useless if ur oponent is careful.

[@firelifeblizzard8782]

Zeldas up b landing on the ground has enough lag for hbox to miss and up smash and still hit a rest wtf are you saying

[@Anthony-zl7yz]

@@firelifeblizzard8782 nope. Thats if u end it in the air and land on the ground after. If you land on the ground with the teleport it has virtually no lag. And the camera doesnt follow it so you cant read it, u just have to guess. Also since most people are used to sheiks ending lag (which is a lot) they might try to attack with something laggy and get caught by zeldas shield and then a back air or somn.

[@scythermantis]

Nobody knows Zelda but it would be cool if they did

[@Charmolution]

HBox just triple eliminated this man.

[@inachos5759]

god tier melee

[@MrKynzer]

Don't remember last time heart rate was so alterad by a set, Jmook will have it next time, I believe

[@shredder6969]

Highest level gameplay of Sheik / Puff ever seen. And there's still quite a way to go in the meta

[@houserspeed]

Toph turned into an 80 year old man after this set lmao

[@MorphBall1]

Best set of the tournament imo

[@honsly1]

18:05 Mango was also thinking rollout when the uair happened 😮

[@danielsmith5032]

What makes you say that?

[@honsly1]

@@danielsmith5032 Oh Mango walked by on Hbox's stream after and said so 😅 there's a clip somewhere on twitch. Something like "Mango calls rollout"

[@thirstyfajita4115]

Best set of the tournament right?

[@ojgimpson]

That rollout was fuckin wild

[@fleidyleegyrson7361]

17:20 this light shield thing? Hello?

[@anone1243r]

25:49 Look at Toph here...

[@samuelbogar]

Good commentary 👍

[@destinydynamites]

awesome set

[@danielsmith5032]

7:50 - 8:20 was just a beautiful interaction

[@doobiemeista]

Fair the wrong way... so clooooose mang

[@arcanaz6583]

A Zelda fair and Rollout all in one game.

[@MisterStubstep]

These are wild!!!!!

[@zacharymacaroni7649]

classic goat season

[@spage0]

Damn damn damn!!!!!!!! Best set so crazy

[@shardofkingdoms9816]

This hurt me deeply

[@mustyrious]

18:00 no way homie did a side b

[@atlasgriffin]

i always get way more animated about these than jmook does.....

[@TheSpaceOpera]

Beyond heartbroken for Jmook

[@-m3x1]

THAT FUCKIN ROLLOUT 18:08

[@Jv615]

My heart

[@willmcauliff506]

Can someone explain what is happening at 28:00?

[@ronniepereira6196]

Looks like Ibdw got offended about tophs “I’m him and he got the FUCK OFF THE GAMEPLAN” comment about jmook a few seconds before

[@MangoTHC]

Shiek is so unreliable against puff i have to say i completely disagree with jmooks decision to stay only shiek, puff might as well be specifically designed to deal with shieks shenanigans, also being able to completely body her. Sh*t matchup for shiek

[@zacharymacaroni7649]

waaaaah waaaaah

[@haleyjadelovethatname]

that rollout jesus christ

[@benjaminamundson2766]

CLUTCHBOX

[@lordzevallos]

🐐

[@PalPlays]

I love Toph lol

[@S-that-is-it]

Pain

[@Greatermaxim]

Hboy beating someone with Jigglypuff. It has never been done before by him in the history of Smash Melee. We are so shocked.

[@jtrtx]

if you don't wanna see it, beat him :)

[@urallnoobs8943]

Chokebox vs jshook was pretty hype even if it was incredibly sloppy

[@lolonoazolo2963]

Fully charged up smash would've actually won Jmook the set

[@queuedjar4578]

someone labbed it and turns out it would not have killed.

[@diegomo1413]

The fair didn’t kill cuz it was hella stale at that point. A Zelda back air might’ve done it

[@statisticallysound]

When Hbox wins melee usually loses, but this was a great set

[@firelifeblizzard8782]

Go outside

[@BlueGrovyle]

Only part you're wrong about is that Melee supposedly "loses" when Hbox wins.

[@bboard17]

Hbox is the most exciting player to watch at the moment. Who do you like watching lame ass Zain Marth play?

[@sumpyori]

puff is just as much of a character in melee as fox is, deal with it.

[@jaredgoldfine1391]

Lmao Hbox got so upset that Jmook, a super wholesome guy, does a light pop off after his game 1 win that he felt the need to stare him down after getting 1 stock at the beginning of game 2. Who does that? What was the goal there? If Jmook didnt do his mini pop off hungrybox wouldnt have stared at him like that. Its like hungrybox thinks he has a patent on popping off. Like relax buddy. Stop looking like you want to fight him. So sensitive lmfao

[@imaslime208]

brother respectfully I don’t think it’s that deep. Little cringebox tho.

[@hunbi1875]

Brother it is not that deep. He probably looked at him likely for his reaction because it's a mental game and if you can mentally kick someone's ass one stock in that's a good thing. People do that shit all the time, stop being parasocial and thinking you know his thought process as an excuse to shit on the dude personally.

[@Feliloler750]

its all mind games. You wouldnt get it

[@jaredgoldfine1391]

@@Feliloler750 no I do get it. I just think it's a real pussy thing to do. It wouldn't affect me, and if anything it would make me more focused to play better. I know he's playing jmook and not me, but I definitely think he got upset that jmook popped off, or else he'd stare people down all the time. But he never does, so there's a clear correlation

[@hunbi1875]

@@jaredgoldfine1391 he literally looks at people all the fucking time. There's also a good chance he was trying to look into the camera as it switched. Stop presuming people's mindsets, you look like a nard licker.

[@meluky2253]

First comment?

[@glassonion2530]

Hate commentators bias and it was on full display here. Glad hbox shut em up

[@jasonblack490]

Am I the only one who noticed Jmook deserved to lose for litterally being cocky enough transform to Zelda instead of just charging smash.

[@shadowgaleshale9218]

Doesn’t seem cocky, just a bad judgement call for the punish

[@chippukumikyoku7267]

Hbox would've actually survived the up smash with the right DI.

[@SRM13]

He couldn’t kill hbox there either way, it wasn’t being cocky he had 2 seconds to plan an attack and punish, don’t type a stupid comment if you don’t know

[@Pwjdjskw]

@@SRM13 theyre either a troll or have no idea that Zelda has a powerful ass fair

[@LordFartamor]

[@partlyblue]

The one true goat: Savior of the broken: Father of my children: Lord fartamor