Hunter Tack Vs. Jumper Tack

A colorful take on the differences between hunter and jumper tack, starring Punk Pony Riding School's trainer Jen and assistant Haley.
Enjoy!

[@crazyconnmemara]

I didn't even make it through 2 minutes...She called a pelham a snaffle when she was referring to the mouth piece... A 'snaffle' refers to a bit that doesn't have a curb, therefore no leverage. A pelham is not a snaffle. Sure it had a smooth mouth piece but that doesn't equate to a snaffle.

[@Mickey27_]

She probably was talking about how the pelham was jointed in the middle like a snaffle is, since there are variations of pelham bits

[@joieellington399]

A pelham is a combination of a snaffle and curb bit, which is why there are two reins. The snaffle rein is for snaffle action, no leverage, and the curb rein is for curb action, with leverage. I personally just use the snaffle rein for contact and the curb for fine tuning my horse's head.

[@mojosmodels]

Also what’s with all of the harsh bits??

[@egs_schroeder3916]

This is actually MY horse trainer.... and she's human, humans make mistakes. And plus...... SHES PRETTY AWESOME!!!

[@corina5766]

That’s right

[@mojosmodels]

“Hunter is more clean and polished.” Like what?

[@furryvibing7343]

I’m pretty sure it’s for points idk

[@lizzie-6735]

@@furryvibing7343 Yep. I'd agree with that. Hunter judges look for clean tack, clean horse, fit horse, etc. It's all about presentation

[@ralph9987]

this would be so much better without the background music, thanks

[@nsecjacqui]

Thou comment that the tack is clean and polished then present a horse with filthy tack, why? You couldn't wait to video tape once the tack was clean?

[@laurenmcmillan4399]

She did say she was only schooling

[@julia-py8iy]

You can’t have a snaffle Pelham😂

[@markgrant9377]

Tom Thumb bit AND chain JESUS 🙈

[@gabrielledafonte3605]

Mark Grant I’m pretty sure it was one of those dumb bike chain bits 😓☹️😭 bits are NOT SUPPOSED TO CAUSE PAIN ( AND NEITHER ARE HACKAMORES) it’s so idiotic when people do things like that 🤷‍♀️ not pointing fingers but....

[@julia-py8iy]

Not a Tom Thumb but nonetheless a very harsh bit

[@zipzers1759]

I believe that it is one with copper rollers. The mouthpiece is similar to that of a jointed snaffle in shape but is more square. The rollers let the horses play with the bit

[@mcmolly2887]

Back in the 90's a hunter class we weren't allowed a martingale because it was based off the horse's movement in equation class you could.

[@lovelifehorses92]

Still cant use them in flat classes just over fences

[@avav.8614]

She said hunters use polo wraps for schooling like no we use open front boots too

[@MeganSchaller]

Running martingales are actually allowed in the Hunter ring under EC rules (((:

[@mallie249]

I ride hunters and I can say I've never seen a running martingale be used in the hunter ring.

[@MeganSchaller]

not many people use them but if you pull up the official rules, they are allowed(:

[@mallie249]

+Megan Schaller I don't know what shows you go to, but by USEF you cannot use running martingales in hunter classes. They barely allow boots, only in the high hunters do they allow those. I've never seen a hunter have a running martingale and I do A and AA rated shows and have shown at WEF.

[@MeganSchaller]

by saying what you show in does not prove anything. there is no need to get snotty. this is taken right from the rule book. - "Standing and running martingales used in the conventional manner are allowed for all over fences classes. All other martingales are considered illegal. A judge must eliminate a horse or pony that competes in a martingale other than a standing or running martingale used in the conventional manner." www.usef.org/documents/ruleBook/2016/17-HU.pdf (:

[@mallie249]

+Megan Schaller I wasn't trying to get snotty about anything. I was saying about what I showed in because I've never seen any hunter with a running martingale and those are the higher rated shows. I guess if its in the rule books its fine, but I've never ever actually seen a hunter go in a class with a running martingale on. I guess it may just be trainer preferences whether they think its right to put a hunter in a running.

[@Santner25]

Oh wow............. Look at Jen Dallis showing off the difference between hunters and jumpers. Must be so so NICE!!!! Hee hee hee

[@prisemut736]

Show jumpers usally don't use these kind of bits!

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Amen. Most use a French snaffle..Eggbutt snaffle or similar....absolutely no shanks. Excessively strong bits.

[@priscillashadowbridge5462]

the only thing I'm not happy about are leverage bits >.

[@sarah1rose]

I like standing martingales or breast collars so much better than running martingales. Running ones have always seemed useless to me.

[@tamaracermakova8345]

one girl needs to learn to speak coherently and ditch the harsh bits !

[@mallie249]

Some horses need harsher bits if they don't listen to the rider's leg, but I agree, the jumper does have quite a harsh bit in but he might need it since it is jumpers and horses can get super forward. I ride my jumper horse in a elevator because of this reason.

[@BridgetCarta]

They don't need them, what they need is to go back to ground 0 with training and flatwork and maybe even groundwork. Bitting up is never the answer because it works as a bandaid, it doesn't solve problems. It masks them.

[@mallie249]

Bridget Carta Some horses needs a harder bit while jumping. My lease horse gets strong while jumping so he wears a Pelham with connecters. When we flat he just wears a o ring with figure eight noseband. Some horses listen perfectly while jumping and some get excited to do their job. Whatever works for your horse, do it. Even if the horse flats and does cross rails like a beast, but when jumping higher and bigger the rider needs some extra breaks, I think that's fine.

[@issymcmo5036]

Tamara Cermakova you need to learn how to spell

[@hazel6472]

+Issy McMo She made no spelling mistakes

[@Kiayya_-.]

Anyone thinking of the rainbow unicorn 2d game cause of the background music

[@emtquiver1588]

...yeah...we cant "hear" through all the giggles either...and I've never seen much use of a double bridle for a "hunter"...now back to my professional studies..snnickkersszzz

[@2000RSlol]

I was always thought that the martingale has to be running, that it was prohibited to have a standing martingale in SJ

[@mcmolly2887]

It's best to have no martingale during a hunter class because it's based off the horse's movement, allowed or not it's depending on how the judge may see it is always a chance they may not like it so for that reason better not to use one. but in equitation class yes you can use a running or standing martingale because as you know that's based of the rider not the horse.

[@nealbakermiriam]

For Hunter jumper can you use a black saddle

[@thatonegirl570]

such a nasty leverage bit.

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

What is the deal w leveraged bits? Never found a need for a leveraged bit....especially for a show jumper.

[@dojocho1894]

short answer..... the horse is psycho

[@paardpaardpaard5884]

I was expecting Jen to be the jumpers trainer

[@chloelane3057]

Thank you for this video!

[@raymundopreciado9117]

🐴loved catinka

[@dojocho1894]

old cowboy adage, look at a horses bit to see what type of ride your going to have before you get on.

[@imogenbroome9999]

You can use a running martingale

[@richardwelsh3040]

@Imogen Broome not in the hunter ring.-Josie on her dads account

[@sambur6480]

To everyone getting riled over the bit, yes you can train horses so they don’t need a bit at all. The rider will have to cowgirl up for that though. Regardless, these horses are cared for and fed. So what, they have to wear a pain-but a few hours a day. It’s a trade off we all have jobs that suck and cause discomfort. It’s part of life.

[@patriciaweber6663]

what was the brand of saddle on the hunter?

[@omarhannah3403]

This is so helpful thanks

[@horseygirl8080]

are you guys american

[@zoieb3238]

Can you use a breastplate instead of a martingale.?

[@madiganschmidt4668]

Yes in jumpers and no in hunters

[@manaia121]

+Zoie B You can use a breastplate AND a standing martingale in the hunters. Use whatever in the jumpers.

[@hannahstorandt-ruedy8676]

Yes you can

[@Padraigan13]

The music is not helpful.

[@Razzle1203]

Love this!!

[@Gabihorse]

Whats the name of the background music?

[@showjumper8384]

Gabihorse annoying haha

[@gabrielleminimore1932]

This video is a mess

[@corina5766]

And you could do better 🤡🤡

[@mp-lz4he]

Im just old fashioned. But pink hair in hunter ring ??

[@reece6001]

show jumper your hair color shouldn’t matter 😂 like wtf

[@mp-lz4he]

@@reece6001 in the hunter ring? Where its about traditional dress and rules. If you can see it ..Yes it does matter actually.

[@reece6001]

show jumper i have colored hair and i do really well in the hunter show ring :) it’s 2020, hair color should not determine where you place and whether or not you can compete in hunters.

[@mp-lz4he]

@@reece6001 good for you

[@efw9586]

I mean the hair is hidden anyway so...

[@adilovesgreaver]

really not bad video. Second girl really you shouldn't be so self doubting. The giggling is the natural result of this and its annoying.

[@Santner25]

You got it annoying is the word! So unprofessional................

[@Jerry_the_cat]

hunters: go slow, look pretty Jumpers: run fast, jump high

[@chantesse]

Robot Unicorn Attack anyone? No? Just me? Okay.

[@naomiackley8885]

Can the fitted saddle pad be black in the hunter ring?

[@richardwelsh3040]

@Naomi Ackley I don't think so. Its pretty strict and traditional, so no.-Josie on her dads account

[@kianar.33]

“Any bit is evil.” Agreed.

[@colette7117]

When did they say that