Gamo Swarm Magnum 10X Gen3i .177 cal. Inertia Fed Air Rifle Unboxing/Review! Shoot out to 50 yards!

[@HuntShootLive]

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[@AlexanderPews]

This is the worlds most powerful air rifle, And this rifle is also very refined. It has very nice and polished features, this is THE air rifle to get right now, if ure lookin for one.

[@HuntShootLive]

@AlexanderPews It is a great air rifle. I must say though... I believe I am enjoying the Gamo Arrow a lot more. Just more fun to shoot and more accurate. Not as much power but much more fun to shoot.

[@CodyHall_Music]

⁠@@HuntShootLiveDo you use a hand pump still or did you drop the cash to get a compressor? Some people really fuss about using a hand pump for PCPs and I read that the Arrow is severely under powered for hunting. 1. Is using a hand pump really that much hassle on the Arrow? 2. Is the Arrow only really good for backyard plinking? I’m torn between the Gamo Arrow PCP and the Gamo magnum pro gen3i. There seems to be hardcore fans on both sides. Apologies for a long post 😂

[@HuntShootLive]

@@CodyHall_Music I am still using the hand pump. Not a problem in my opinion. I have still only plunked with it but plan to squirrel hunt with it in September. I feel confident it will do just fine. I’m hitting my 8in steel targets with it at 80 yards and it hits louder than my .177 swarm magnum at that range. Honestly I’m not a fan of pellet rifles for any hunting other than squirrel. I’m sure they would be fine for rabbit as well. So those two critters are soft and small enough that the arrow is more than enough. Overall, I prefer the arrow over the swarm magnum. More enjoyable to shoot, just as accurate, no recoil and WAY less loud.

[@CodyHall_Music]

@@HuntShootLive thank you so much for your reply and all the hard work you put in to doing review videos, I know it’s a ton of work! Mostly I am needing an accurate (inside 45 yards) and super quiet air rifle for pest control. I have a good .22LR but it’s way too loud and just easier to buy a .22 cal pellet rifle than to go through all the legal hoops and the wait times of getting a firearm suppressor. So you have helped me to make up my mind on the Gamo Arrow, hopefully mine won’t have problems keeping air like some people experience. Again thank you so much for all your videos it helps a ton of people!

[@donnaruthjack]

Have had my Gen 3 .22 cal for a couple of weeks and 150 pellets fired. Installed GAMO 3x9 shipped with the rifle. Initial accuracy was good using Crosman Premier domed 14.3 gr. pellets. After about 125 pellets, shots began vertically stringing 6 to 8 inches above the aim point at 25 yards. Suspected scope problems and installed a Beeman air rifle scope from a R10 break barrel I've used for years. Same vertical stringing of shots and after 20 shots this rifle dislodged the adjustable objective lens, which now rattles around in the scope. After seeing your video on Leupold warranty covering break barrel use, I installed a Vari-X 44mm Leupold scope from one of my hunting rifles. Vertical stringing of shots continued using this high quality scope. Have sent an email to GAMO support describing this and asking for their thoughts/suggestions. I'm an experienced centerfire benchrest competitor, and have worked with many rifle and scope combinations, so don't think these issues relate to my scope installation or shooting technique off the bench. Curious to see if you good initial accuracy continues. Sure hope so.

[@bstew4841]

I bought the Gen 3 .22 cal last week and I had the same issue of it hitting around 7 inches high at 25 yards. I turned the scope vertical adjustment way down to compensate. It didn’t seem right but it’s hitting on target now?

[@HuntShootLive]

@donnaruthjack That’s frustrating! I wonder if the rail is loose? Let me know if you figure it out.

[@donnaruthjack]

@@HuntShootLive Checked base (rail) and rings several times. And with the pin anchoring the rail to the receiver, it really can't move forward or backwards. I'll keep you posted on any progress in running this down.

[@donnaruthjack]

My issue developed about 125 shots AFTER the scope was zeroed at 25 yards.

[@donnaruthjack]

@@bstew4841 My issue developed about 125 shots AFTER the scope was zeroed at 25 yards.

[@saclett]

I was able to pick up a Gen2 Swarm Magnum .22!for $249.99 for a Black Friday Deal. I don’t like the Gen3i because it doesn’t come with open sights. I grew up on open sights and I like the choice if I want to use a scope. Thank you for your review…

[@HuntShootLive]

@saclett I’m sure there are a lot of people who do prefer the open sights. Not a huge difference in performance it doesn’t seem between the Gen 2 and 3.

[@tomhirons7475]

terrible rifle

[@saclett]

@@tomhirons7475 Your Point?

[@kyori7k]

U got scammed bro i got it for sale for 189.90

[@NorthFloridaAirGunner]

It's always best to have open sights incase the scope breaks in the field. You can pull scope off and keep hunting. I hate that gamo uses plastic for the breech too.

[@HuntShootLive]

@Roy Public Definitely a valid point. I would just go home and put a new scope on but I’m sure not everyone can do that. I will say though, I’ve hunted my whole life and never had a scope break in the field. Also, the open sights on the gun could get snagged on something and break as well.

[@jcdupuy4809]

Great video. Which one do you like better ? The .22 or .177?

[@HuntShootLive]

@Jc dupuy That’s a tough question! They are so close. I couldn’t get the 177 to read on my magneto speed but I believe it seems to be shooting faster than the 22. Makes sense I guess. They both are about the same as for accuracy. I suppose I’ll give it to the 177 just for speed.

[@watchthemaster5906]

The grouping will always be kind of bad when pellets are going super sonic. You should try some heavier rounds, I've heard 9 grain does pretty well with about an inch grouping 50 yards out.

[@HuntShootLive]

@Watch The Master I think you have a good point. I want to try a few heavier style pellets for sure.

[@marcnissen578]

I hope they fixed the feed issue that the gen2 has but time will tell

[@HuntShootLive]

@Mark Nissen Not had a problem with feeding in the gen 2 I have access to. The mag was one of the upgrades to this one so hopefully it is nothing but smoother and more functional.

[@Cronoviajero]

They already did and the name of it is the G3i.

[@chopperg9443]

What's the difference between the Gamo Swarm Magnum 10X Gen3i and the Gamo PRO Swarm Magnum 10X Gen3i?

[@HuntShootLive]

@chopperg9443 Looks like absolutely nothing.

[@chopperg9443]

@@HuntShootLive you're right. The only difference I see, it's the stock pad on the pro.

[@mitedupev7956]

What's the difference between gen2 and gen 3? I have Slavia 630, my father bought it as a teen. and I've firing her since I was 7, I was a comedy when I break the barrel for a reload 😂 And I'm used to regular metal sight,open sight, I've used that rifle until I lost interest after puberty I think 😂, we had tradition for the day before or after Christmas to shot sparrows and pigeons for lunch as snacks.but we usually used to shot into targets, bottle caps,matchsticks, pennies,even pellets with that sight.now after 15 & so years I started to shot again with air guns so I bought Gamo Replay Magnum gen2 couple years ago,with the standard scope 3-9x40,and yeah scope is a scope,I should've bought better one.F-it,but I feel like a surgeon compared to the metal sight...we don't have much choice here from where I'm from (Macedonia) I mean we have a lot but the prices doesn't go well with our wages.I want to take the scope off to try the open sight ,the Slavia 630 now is good only for idk 20 meters,maybe not even that much, normally she wasn't,and she's not even close to the Gamo in power,doesn't matter I refurbished,but it is what it is, that's her performance. but I've had a lot of practice with that one,and the pellets were usually bad quality but cheapthere were better but not affordable at the rate of firing I did,plus we had a shop we sold them the cheap ones,God's know how many lead I've have shot through that rifle,there's probably lead poison on the meadows where we shot usually.I don't have much experience with scopes,if I remove it now I don't have equipment,I would have to go the shop where I bought the rifle to mount and realign the scope again? It would not be precise if I just mount it again like it was,right? I want to try different pellets so far I've used Gamo pro-match, g.lethal, match,and few pellets from a German that I don't remember the name,just to see their performance.But so far the best are Gamo lethal, those are killers...

[@HuntShootLive]

@Mi Te dupev The difference is minimal between the Swarm Mag gen 2 and 3. I looked up the stats on what you have and it seems as though it is very similar to the swarm magnum just marketed to countries other than North America. If it is capable of taking small game out to 30-40 yards then, the one you have is probably just as good as the new Gen 3 Swarm Mag. As for changing the scope, that should be simple. The top adjustment is for up and down and the side is for left and right. If you have some Allen wrenches and screws drivers you should be okay. But, seems like the gun you’re using now is just fine. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Let me know if you have more questions. I’ll help how I can.

[@mitedupev7956]

@@HuntShootLive at first when I bought it I was little confused with the names,then there wasn't gen3.thats why i got interested but there's not some significant upgrades. For the names they're just different in Europe from those in N.America. Magnum is Magnum.I know the basics but I haven't had the need to touch the scope, except for my personal curiosity,they set it from where I bought it and Im not touching it until I have a reason ,it's a solid scope, I would like something like mil dots,not to set the range 😂 but for better orientation while aiming through,idk how to say. I'm using the rifle mostly for fun, practice and keeping safe my vineyard and garden, fruit trees etc...from flying rascals,for ground control I have American bulldog she usually takes care of that. But with good pellet it can bring down small game with no problem.Thanks

[@thegiantswordworkout]

If you fold the rifle over as to load it I was wondering how many inches long and wide the airguns measurements are folded as to potentially fitting into a 100 litter survival rucksack. Could you do the measurements on a folded gamma.

[@stanjenkins6039]

Was it breaking the sound barrier?

[@HuntShootLive]

@Stan Jenkins It very well may be. Not put it on the chronograph yet but it definitely sounds like it is. Chronograph review coming soon.

[@noonster55]

There's an airgun channel called Airgun Detectives. He has a nice kit to make that CAT trigger a lot nicer. I got one and installed it on my gun and the trigger is so much better. Much more accurate gun now...

[@HuntShootLive]

@noonster55 A trigger upgrade would be nice!

[@Matt-yi2ir]

I don’t see much difference between the gen 2 and the gen 3 guess I’ll stick with my gen to for now I’m not going to upgrade yet.

[@HuntShootLive]

@Matt It’s a good excuse to try another caliber. The Gen 2 I did all the reviews on was a .22. Took this opportunity to try the .177. I’m pleased so far. Got my first squirrel with it this morning!

[@NickKlonizos-dq7ks]

I purchased one of these air rifles about a month ago, the loading situation is faulty. I load the magazine and when I cock it the pellet falls out? So I was ghost shooting a couple of rounds until I figured out what it was doing. What am I doing wrong? Cocking was extremely hard as well. Any suggestions?

[@HuntShootLive]

@NickKlonizos-dq7ks Are you using pba (alloy) pellets? Those are the only ones I’ve had that issue with.

[@NickKlonizos-dq7ks]

Super point extra they are pointy, and some pointed red tips

[@HuntShootLive]

@@NickKlonizos-dq7ks I would think those should work. Send gamo an email and tell them what’s going on. May be a warranty issue.

[@NickKlonizos-dq7ks]

@@HuntShootLive good idea thank you 😊

[@AmitKumar-iw6yz]

Brother eska kitna price hoga and ye nx200 se acha hai ya bura❤

[@marcnissen578]

The box says 1650 fps put it on the crony and see what it’s really got with lead pellets no iron sights for me that’s a deal breaker for me

[@HuntShootLive]

@Marc Nissen I’m sure the fps is no where close. Unfortunately I tried to crony this with my magnetospeed and it wouldn’t pick it up. Pellet is just too small I guess. Guessing from the very loud crack, it it exceeding the speed of sound at least.

[@donnaruthjack]

Hunt Shoot Live. Follow up on my comment from yesterday. Based on today's results, I believe the original GAMO magazine may have been the problem. This afternoon I received my order from Pyramid Air containing H&N Barracuda Extreme Hunter (18.52 gr) and Diabolo (15.89 gr) pellets and an extra GAMO magazine. Both new pellets grouped well using the new magazine, with no vertical stringing of shots. The Crosman Premier Dome (14.3 gr) shot from the new magazine grouped nicely at 5/8 inch, 5 shots at 25 yards - no vertical stringing of impacts. Only variable from prior days of horrible groups with the Crosman Premier pellets was use of the NEW magazine. From the outset, inserting pellets into the original mag required using a tool to seat the pellets. With new mag, all 3 types of pellets can be inserted in the mag with only light finger pressure. Hard to believe the autoloading mag could have that dramatic effect on accuracy, but it sure looks like it. More testing tomorrow to confirm.

[@HuntShootLive]

@donnaruthjack That’s great news! Simple fix. I hope that takes care of it. Good info for anyone else experiencing the same problem. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@Danielfloresmma]

I don’t know how to adjust the scope . I’m new to this

[@HuntShootLive]

@Danielfloresmma The movement range should be specified on the scope box or when you screw off the scope cap. Probably something like 1 click equals 1/4 inch at 100 yards. If that is the case then 1 click is equal to 1/16th of an inch at 25 yards. Set up a target attached to a big box and shoot it. The scope will tell you what is an up adjustment and what is a down. Also, the right left is the side knob and the top adjustment knob is for up and down. So if you shoot and it is 6 inches low and 6 inches right of where you aimed at 25 yards then you would need to come up 96 clicks and left 96 clicks.

[@raffaeledemartino9736]

Oh man...usually from the videos you can't tell how loud these air rifles are...but this One definitely smashes the "mic-filter"!! Is freaking LOUD!!! A tipical backyard, even with the nicest neighbors, is a NO Fire Zone

[@HuntShootLive]

@Raffaele De Martino Yes definitely. Same for the Gen2. The Whisper is not much less loud though.

[@deepaksoni340]

Gamo must have to give illuminating scope with it.

[@HuntShootLive]

@Deepak Soni No. Just a regular 3-9 power.

[@lamardaniels6625]

How many FPE?...Want to buy one but looking at the different FPE amongst air rifles?!??

[@HuntShootLive]

@Lamar Daniels Maybe around 28. I can’t get my magnetospeed to work with the small pellets but I’d guess you could say fps is 1200-1400 possibly.

[@lamardaniels6625]

​@@HuntShootLive tlso, therefore the .22cal is Averaging (26.6 FPE) and the .177cal is averaging (28 FPE) 🤔.....so the .177calcis putting out more FPE than the .22cal?

[@Blockah]

So it can fire 10 pellets before need reload?

[@HuntShootLive]

@Blockah Yes. It has a ten round magazine which cycles a new pellet into the chamber when you break the action and cock it.

[@Blockah]

@@HuntShootLive So I just shoot 10 times then I have to reload? Because normally it is shoot one pellet then reload which is super annoying. If you could just clarify I can shoot 10 times before needing to reload/cock anything? Thank you!

[@HuntShootLive]

@@Blockah You do need to cock each shot but you don’t have to reload the mag for 10 shots. So, load 10 pellets, cock, shoot, cock, shoot…(10x). Then take mag out and load 10 more.

[@Blockah]

@@HuntShootLive Oh what the hell, Hell no, that's way too much work far out, I have to cock it over and over again and change the mag? I just thought it took 10 bullets and then I shoot 10 bullets then I put 10 bullets in the mag and repeat, damn son, nah defo won't be buying an air rifle then haha! Not allowed a gun license in New Zealand if you have a traffic offence or have been to the psych ward, was going to look into an air rifle like this for self defence just in case as I live in the country but damn, looks like this won't be any good either lol thanks for your time!

[@HuntShootLive]

@@Blockah The cocking action is necessary to reset the piston. Here is a review I did on personal defense weapons including a pellet rifle… kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqK6qZ-vns-GkJI

[@cray-z7404]

I have researched & talked to alot of air gunners & with pcp rifles like the AEA .357 CAL ETC. they are saying they only feel confident shooting 50 -75 yds with a big bore taking head shots on deer 🦌 , so I'm like I can shoot my crossbow that far silently so why spend that money & I believe that I could even do as good wirh a GAMO BREAK BARREL as the pcp air guns they only say shoot accurately 50 -75 yds ???

[@HuntShootLive]

@CRAY-Z I would have zero interest hunting anything larger than a squirrel or rabbit with a break barrel pellet rifle. “Can” they, if legal in your state, take larger animals… yes, with proper shot placement. Are they the best option… absolutely not. As for the big bore pcp and crossbow comparison… it’s just another passion to pursue. One is probably no better than the other necessarily but we engage in different things because they are fun and interests change. If we are really worried about what is absolutely most effective then I would encourage using nothing less than a 7mm rem mag and keep shots within 200 yards. However, what’s most effective is not what we are after when we get into new things. For me personally, the pellet rifle is a way to make squirrel hunting more fun again. A shotgun does it way better but I’ve done it 1000 times with a shotgun. As for accurate hunting range with my break barrel, for me personally I’m gonna limit that to no more than 30 yards. Close to a .22 long rifle. The .22 lr has more energy than either break barrel option, .177 or .22, though. The break barrel is just something else to spend time on and a new experience to enjoy. Hope that helps!

[@cray-z7404]

@@HuntShootLive I completely understand I was just curious if you thought the break barrel GAMO GEN3 .22 would actually kill a whitetail 🦌with a headshot at 40 yards with right pellet & perfect shot placement ... just wanted to know your thoughts on it and I have 7mm Remington mag Nikon scope & many other firearms I've collected aswell as my late father's collection I aquired & i have RAVEN R29 Crossbow, Centerpoint sniper 370 , Barnett expedition 360 ... I got into crossbows & now I'm looking into pcp air rifles now & I'm 43 , my Lil brother bought a Gamo swarm fusion I believe .177 cal for him and his kids to shoot & teach his kids gun safety / handling etc. He also has alot of does that come in his backyard daily like 20+ deer 🦌 ... I set him up a 2 seater latter stand in edge of woods for him & my nephew and there's a corn 🌽 pile about 30 - 40 yards from stand & I was just curious if he could kill one with head shot with the .177 with rocket pellets at 15- 20 yards & he said he wanted to get a Gamo magnum. 22 so I was just curious as to if u believe he could actually take a deer at 35 -40 yards max with the Gamo u have & the rocket pellets with head shot on the corn 🌽 pile ... I live in NORTH CAROLINA where baiting is legal & there are no caliber restrictions on whitetail deer... anywho no biggie but just wanted to ask u cause looks like u definitely got it figured out ... YOUR OPINION MATTERS TO ME PARTNER & IF YOU KNOW OF A BUDGET FRIENDLY PCP AIR RIFLE UNDER A $1000 NO MATTER THE CALIBER 25 , 30 , 40 , 45 , 50 & I KNOW ABOUT THE AEA ZUES 58 , 72 CAL ETC. JUST WANT SOMETHING THAT REACH OUT AND HAVE ENOUGH KE / FPE / FPS TO PENETRATE A DEER SKULL 💀 AT 100-200 YARDS MAX HEAD OR NECK SHOT 🤔 ??? I WANT A ACCURATE RELIABLE AIR RIFLE THST CAN CINSISTENTLY SHOOT 100-200YDS & HIT A DEER 🦌 IN HEAD !!!

[@HuntShootLive]

CRAY-Z Perfect shot placement is key for penetration. The Rocket will do it but its a risky shot because of the placement. I'm just getting into PCP. I have the Gamo Arrow. Videos coming soon! Don't know enough about PCPs yet to be able to have an educated opinion.

[@MistaWells]

whats the difference between the fusion and the magnum

[@HuntShootLive]

@Mista Wells I have never shot the fusion so I’m not sure.

[@stanpotter7764]

​@@HuntShootLive The power plant. The fusion has about 2/3 the power of the magnum.

[@gmanneod8085]

Nice job on the review.

[@HuntShootLive]

@Gman Neo’d Thank you!

[@humblebeats3391]

Gamo needs to go the way of AEA

[@HuntShootLive]

@humblebeats3391 Not familiar with them. Have to look them up.

[@tom-x2w7h]

how many grain ?????????

[@HuntShootLive]

@user-vq7go9jt2j 7

[@alessandromatteo8365]

Just picked up a swarm fusion gen3i.177 cal ...it will not run Gamo red fire pellets or anything other than flat nose daisy

[@HuntShootLive]

@Alessandro Matteo Thanks for sharing! It’s crazy how finicky each gun can be.

[@raptor700rnoe]

Sounds loud .. or is it just the echo ? 😢

[@HuntShootLive]

@Kyle Albeta It is loud. Not as loud as a 22lr but close.

[@Tattooedharvester1983]

Should have the option though

[@vonfields6889]

Will this gun kill a coyote?if so how far?

[@HuntShootLive]

@Von Fields I would feel confident in a head shot out to 40 yards on a coyote with this rifle. Would probably penetrate at further distances but shot placement becomes more difficult.

[@robalan57]

Check your local gun laws. I need at least a .22 for a coyote in my area to be legal.

[@MrMaximatron]

Should buy or not ?

[@HuntShootLive]

@MrMaximatron What exactly are you hoping to get out of the pellet rifle? What is your intended use?

[@MrMaximatron]

Thx for answer. It will be my first air rifle, and I want simple little bit shot some birds( small birds and pigeons), and try some long range shots( 100-150 yards). And to be honest , I don't know which one is better - 177 or 22 caliber

[@HuntShootLive]

@@MrMaximatron I like the .177 better. They both use the same piston system so the 22 is actually slower therefore has less power even though the pellet is bigger. 177 shoots faster and seems to penetrate better. 100 yards is pushing it but possible. 50-80 is definitely doable with practice.

[@Tattooedharvester1983]

I like it better without the iron sights as well looks better without too!!

[@kidsmithree]

It is going supersonic....

[@HuntShootLive]

@kidsmithree I couldn’t get it to read in my chrono but I do believe it is going supersonic.

[@MrWaynedi]

I hear it has a plastic trigger

[@HuntShootLive]

@Wayne Dillsworth Any Gamo I have has the same trigger. Never had a problem.

[@universaljudge3790]

I like to hear the ""with alloy pellets""......No air rifle ...out there attain these speeds not even with a pellet from ""Hell""😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@HuntShootLive]

@universaljudge3790 I chronoed the .22 swarm mag at around 900 with 14 grain pellets. I couldn’t get the .177 to chrono but I’d say it has to be 1100 or better with 7 grain lead pellets. Same piston system as the .22 but pellet half the size. Really the size of the alloy pellets advertised for the .22. But yeah, alloy pellets are trash. I couldn’t get them to cycle and feed accurately much less get any accuracy on target. Even if they are shooting a few fps faster I wouldn’t be interested in using them.

[@Thermaldoggin7690]

My. 177 chronographs 925-1125 fps with 9 gr. gamo pellets

[@85milez49]

Damn I ain’t know these mf was loud

[@HuntShootLive]

@85milez49 Yeah. Its almost as loud as a 22lr.

[@tomhirons7475]

terrible rifle

[@HuntShootLive]

@Tom Hirons Please share your thoughts.

[@upperdeck89-19]

I truly wish that Gamo would come up with a stronger caulking system something that's heavier the more pounds the more better I could take it now there's some guys out there that have trouble cocking that sucker back but they should just go with the fusion or the lighter model.

[@HuntShootLive]

@UPPERDECK89-1 PCP rifles are the next step up. I’m loving my Gamo Arrow so far. I’m sure a bigger bore pcp would be super awesome!

[@upperdeck89-19]

Well I guess I'm going to have to save up some money and get a PCP rifle then sounds like a good idea

[@HuntShootLive]

@@upperdeck89-19 I'm really liking my Gamo Arrow. Check that review out if you have not already. I'm working on an squirrel hunt video with it right now. Super fun air rifle.