You're Doing Cargo Wrong! The BEST Cargo Set Up You NEED to Know In Transport Fever 2

[@Hushey]

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[@BloodweiserDK]

Have to say, after playing almost 1000 hours of TF2, this has really changed the way I play it now. Setting up all the cargo routes is much more efficient and it's a lot easier to manage everything. Thanks for opening my eyes to this strategy.

[@Hushey]

Thats magic. I love this.

[@Rice-Simpkins]

@@Hushey 2:39 not to be rude but have you heard of doubles lips?

[@Rice-Simpkins]

@@HusheyNVM

[@Hushey]

Enlighten me!

[@LastDragonLeroy]

I tried to watch this video when I started the game a week ago and it made my head hurt. So I played a bit and got comfortable and came back and it blew my mind. This changes everything . Thank you

[@Hushey]

Glad it was useful!! Thanks a lot feel free to subscribe for more!

[@SilencerGDA]

Now lets see this in brutal campaign

[@grazzitdvram]

When I experimented with this a year or 2 ago, what I got was production points flaking out so places where I had invested infrastructure, it just turned them off in favor of some other point usually involving a boat and it did the same thing for my refining sources. To clarify the end result was that my infrastructure just got tied up shuffling goods all over the place. To top this off when adding new points, the game would rethink what production points it wanted to use sooooo my adaption to the mass system would occasionally need to be redone. While I like the look, even if it was problem free, doing this for anything other than aesthetics is a bad idea as it just makes all the lines you run less profitable by adding in a distro hub stop.

[@Jabberdau]

While this will make your profits soar, 80% of your cargo will be lost as your mainlines will absolutely drown. I would suggest you only do this for finished goods.

[@Hushey]

no they wont! Not if everything is on one train. Start doing trains with only one type of cargo carrier eg only gondolas is where everything goes wrong

[@stevenwest0]

Nah he's right. He does happen. It starts well then goes tits up when you put a few trains on. Gets clogged

[@Hushey]

@@stevenwest0 just upgrade the capacity until it dosent on the mainline. Try adding 4 tracks near the junctions so intercity had priority

[@PaulRoneClarke]

Good call. You can’t overdeliver on finished goods and the way the game handles this is to make raw materials disappear if it works out they can’t be used that year. You can store finished goods though. They don’t disappear.

[@thoughtfox2409]

@@Hushey Nah, this type of system is cute for transporting some goods, but if you really want to move freight, the single wagon type is the only way to go. I have several Cities which need over 500 of each of their four resources, if you want to supply them efficiently a distribution hub only makes sense to gather the output of several factories togehter to be able to supply a city. But even then you want trains that can only do one type of cargo as you can fine tune them more easily. Also it doesn't really matter if you have 4 mixed 320m trains, or 4 seperated 320m trains for 4 types of cargo, number of trains will always be the same to be able to supply the resources more efficiently. The only case where a mixed train is better is if you would run one mixed long train or several short trains. But in the early game you don't usually have the locomotive power to do that, and in the mid to late game demand rises above what a single 320 train can provide.

[@TheMangazixy]

With around 20 trains coming from one side, it turns out to have a big bottleneck at the entry. I transformed my station to a RoRo later, and there is no more a bottleneck (but way more tracks)

[@jishnuadhikari5234]

Whats a roro???

[@aMMa1726]

@@jishnuadhikari5234roll in roll out

[@jpro6413]

Pls tell us

[@TheMangazixy]

@@jishnuadhikari5234 It's for Roll in Roll out. It's used in OpenTTD a lot, and you can look at some example of RoRo station-type in the fan-wiki of OpenTTD

[@Mike-James]

Having been a British Rail Freight Guard in the eighties, nineties, I can say you hit the nail on the head with the distribution system.

[@Hushey]

Nice one, brilliant

[@riptide19011]

Holy crap did this change how I play the game. THANK YOU! I rarely focused on cargo before. I mean I'd do some, but it was small scale and usually point to point (and I usually had to place my own for it to make sense). I could never scale it up and was always a huge effort for me. Then I figured I'd try this - why not, what did I have to lose? Well I went from supplying a few supplies to a few towns... to providing supplies to MANY towns. On my current map I essentially have 2 lines that form an X that hit 90% of my towns. Using this system, I was able to provide supplies to towns on 3 legs of that X merely by adding 3 new lines from my northern supply yard and buying 3 trains and then sorting out the end delivery. Trains on lines I already had that were going between my central and northern supply point just added finished goods to go north (these always had extra capacity). 3 trains, 3 lines, and everything else that I'd already put in place handed the rest. Cargo went from being a major pain and nightmare... to... easy-ish. Now most of your effort is in track planning not routes. It can be a pain to setup. And it's expensive. But once you set it up, it scales like crazy. And because the game is smart enough to know where goods are needed, it will shuttle them around automatically. Now you just need to get them to one of the 3 yards and have distribution from there and the game will do the rest. That said... my central point got so busy I had to do 12 terminals split with 6 for my northern yard and 6 for my southern yard on completely separate sets of tracks - and I'm sure there's even more efficient ways to do it, but that's working for me for now. Now to go from a large map with only a handful of towns (12) to a lot more and to see what happens.

[@Hushey]

Brilliant! So glad it helped you. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.

[@szymex22]

Pretty good layout, I started using a similar thing recently and it works pretty well, though I use express trains that go non stop from hub to hub, and then medium trains take them to cities (or take some industry cargo on the way too). There’s actually a cargo tram on the steam workshop it’s excellent for last mile city delivery

[@Hushey]

lovely! Thanks for sharing szy!

[@MavMcLeod]

Fun fact: in my city they have just started converting some trams to distribute deliveries in the city. From the unloading points, these are then brought to the recipients on cargo bikes. The goal is to rid the city of at least some delivery vans.

[@szymex22]

@@MavMcLeod I think cargo bikes is a stupid idea, just put pack stations like we have in Poland. Cheaper and easier logistically. But using trams to deliver is an interesting idea, it might work in some places where the delivery hub is close to the tram line.

[@MavMcLeod]

@@szymex22 Yeah, we have packstations, too, but people are too lazy and let goods be delivered to their front door.

[@Skiesaremine]

14:00 Why transfer so many times instead of taking the oil straight to the north distributing hub?

[@Hushey]

Hi skie, its because we are sending oil to lots of places not just one place so needs intermediate spots for transfer a % of cargo to where else needs it

[@Skiesaremine]

@@Hushey How about if the plants, processing factories, and the cities consuming the resources form a triangle? Would you still make a hub in the middle?

[@Hushey]

@Skiesaremine yeah, use north, south and central yards or north,south,east,west and central yards

[@RamblinRick_]

Wow. I have nearly 300 hours in TF2 (and about the same in TF1). I've always used the supplier-to-consumer point-to-point method. You've opened my eyes. Can't wait to implement this on my next playthrough iommediately after finishing watching this video. Subscribed!

[@Hushey]

Glad you liked it ramblin!

[@fishman501]

Thanks for this guide, it's very helpful and informative. The way I used to do cargo was to connect all the industries to their nearest cities and run services between the various cities

[@Hushey]

glad you liked it fishman, thanks for commenting!

[@True_NOON]

On the last scenario place a 1 plattform station Add a cargo plattform onto the trackside , and mirror the plattforms and track, and make an |X| with the tracks each end, signal up and for bejing □|■|□|■|□ , and just have auto distribution with passenger trains up and down all stops, all alternate plattforms , and same for cargo , they will auto transfer and barely run empty

[@jimmypetrock]

Always loving your tips, and at 7 thousand subscribers its like you have over 100 thousand subscribers. Keep up to good work! :)

[@Hushey]

Thanks jimmy! Always appreciate your support

[@marcdc6809]

I made it a challenge once to get every industry evenly deliver to every other possible target... trick is to connect every secondary industry with every other... you have 6 steel mills, first link them each to 2 coal mines and 2 iron mines (primary lines), then link steel mill 1 to steel mill 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 4... secondary lines... on a secondary line after a while the potential traffic is about 800 iron and 800 coal ... also 400 steel... and then link up each steel mill to one machine or goods factory, the secondary lines will make that every linked up steel mill passes steel to every connected machine or goods factory... coal that's first shipped to steel mill 1 but was bought by steel mill 6 will make 6 trips in total, potentially the produced steel will then make another 6 trips to make it to the machine factory linked to steel mill 1...

[@Anrhok]

This is so many Input and actually pretty Confusing. I did understand how to create the Sorting Hub and with the existing Line... But what I did not understand was your Distribution Hub. Was ist just a small Station close to your Capitol and you had a Big Truck station that brings the Stuff inside your City? And the Stuff with the Low, Med and High Tier Train did confuse me a bit too. But somewhat I did understand the BAsic.

[@Hushey]

Basically, yes. Feel free to ask for some help with your save in the discord

[@Anrhok]

@@Hushey I experimented a bit and I think I found out how. But thanks =D The Sorting Center is a really nice Idea and works pretty good! And Logistics work well too! And got me some Archievements!

[@marcbeebee6969]

Great video but 2:26. You can cross both traks. Then you can click the first intersection and activate a second switch. A bit more compact

[@Hushey]

Sure thing! Good point. Just be aware this will make the speed limit really low tho!

[@marcbeebee6969]

@@Hushey yes you are right. But with your tight corners and the line director. Speed is not your priority, it seems. But you are right both ways is good

[@Hushey]

@@marcbeebee6969 yes thats right speed in this instance isnt a priority, but in other cases of use elsewhere it may be a factor👍

[@marcbeebee6969]

@@Hushey used your cargo setup today on the Frankfurt map from the workshop. The population is happy and is requesting your services as transport minister 🤣

[@Hushey]

@marcbeebee6969 hahaha

[@Sckadoo]

I've always needed a tutorial like this

[@Hushey]

Glad you found it then! Thanks for sharing

[@renzoniebres7343]

Basicly feeder station Backbone hubs for openttd players

[@MeAg4in]

you're such a brilliant youtuber for such a niche game, wish you the best

[@Hushey]

Thank you meag4in for your kind words

[@epicsnake21]

I would love to see a full stream of this build, I'm getting stuck at connecting all the industries efficiently and how to set up the lines with what unloads what and where. I've connected many industries from my sorting hub, good are flowing but I'm loosing a lot of money. I think I'm doing something wrong. (I started with the southern sorting hub because I ran out of money).

[@lefty59th18]

A really educational video. One advice if I may, it really confused me when you started mixing up the definitions - yard, Hub, center, depot. A bit more clarity would help, but I got the idea anyway. Cheers!

[@Hushey]

gotcha. Will do in future! Thanks for the feedback lefty59th

[@MCCiabattaGrande]

Bro is having a PhD in transport logistics 😂😂😂

[@stephenrobbins2038]

Another brilliant guide, thank you, although I’m a little bit confused but then again I am almost 70. I’m unsure how the distribution centre works, do all the materials and the end products eg Goods, Tools, Machines etc go there or do the end products go to the sorting yards only or directly to the cities? If everything goes to the distribution yard will six platforms be adequate? Love your work, keep it up.

[@Hushey]

Thanks a lot stephen glad you liked it. You want to connect all local industry to the sorting yard, then ship to the distribution hub. Then, do the same for every major area of the map. Goods will automatically be sorted, dropped off at distribution, picked up by a train on its return journey after its dropoff going a different way, and then dropped off at the sorting yard. Its quite a complex thing to convey so you are welcome to join the discord in the description and i can explain over voice call or images. As for platforms it completely depends on the map. I play 1:5 mega and 2-4 is about right.

[@TheMangazixy]

@@Hushey Can we have just 2 cargo hub, being interconnected (both distribution and sorting yard at the same time, or like just two sorting yard interconnected without a distribution hub) ?

[@Hushey]

@@TheMangazixy technically yes but itll mean your centre of the map will be lower on resources. You can always run transport trains sorting to sorting and skip the distribution but rly you need all 3

[@ThePeteW]

Some interesting ideas about station design for the sorting hubs. WIll look great when in operation. But I'm very confused! Way too quick for me to follow. There are 3 types of goods as I see it - Raw (R) e.g. Logs Intermediate (I) e.g. Timber and finished (F) e.g. fuel. So R goes to Sort. I goes to sort. Does same train/truck carry back the R materials to make the I? F goes to sort. Where do F products get distibuted from? Trains transport all (R/I/F) products to distibution? Or just R and I? What happens on the 2 tracks at the distribution centre which aren't the 6 drop-off/load platfforms for goods? Where does this mega big train fit in? Hope my questions are clear. Looked in discord. But dodn't see nay chat on this.

[@Hushey]

This is a common issue. I clearly missed a few specifics. If you watch my "do this in 2024 video" (ill link it) it may help?

[@Hushey]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKi5mX2OnNmZgck

[@ThePeteW]

@@Hushey Thanks for response. Watched the 2024 video. It mentions all raw items to Dist Hub. But doesn't mention any more about freight. So same questions I had earlier still not clear to me. Where do intermediate goods get their raw goods from and where do they deliver the output? Same for the finished products. Sorry if I'm missing something and being thick! Edit: Do you have an uploaded map? Then can see the freight routes suggested?

[@Hushey]

Hey feel free to hop on the discord and ill hop on call and explain it cus theres a lot to cover. Definitely need a redo of this vid.

[@Pwnz0rServer2009]

i really want to try this on openttd

[@NickCharles]

I'm not sure I understand this? I built out this sorting yard exactly the way you showed it, but by the time I get to just a few supply shunters arriving at once it becomes a massive bottleneck getting on and off the main line. How do you manage to get enough traffic flow to make use of the 6 platforms? I haven't even added more than the beginning central hub, created all of two lines and the entire thing is seemingly saturated by a single set of steel supply trains with trucks delivering the coal and iron nearby. And I haven't even started using the main line for anything else!

[@Hushey]

Hi Nick, just add more inpoints! does your comment i replied to on the new video explain this more for you?

[@NickCharles]

@@Hushey it does yes, thank you!

[@samolina4826]

Dos preguntas. La primera, dijiste que para llevar las materias primas al centro de distribución usabas un tren con distintos vagones de carga, pero en otros vídeos hay trenes que recorren esa ruta llevando materias primas al centro de distribución con un único tipo de vagón, por qué? Y la segunda, el tren ese largo del que hablas al final, ¿se podría dividir en dos?, uno suministrando uno la zona norte y el otro la sur

[@Hushey]

distribution trains carry EVERY type of cargo car. supply trains are typically one type of car e.g. oil. the long train can be split down yes, but it will be harmful to your passenger service as more traffic. NY goes to centre and back, then any cargo needing to go south from there picked up and goes to SY train. that train then goes back to centre Los trenes de distribución transportan TODO tipo de vagones de carga. Los trenes de suministro suelen ser un tipo de vagón, p. aceite. El tren largo se puede dividir, sí, pero será perjudicial para el servicio de pasajeros ya que habrá más tráfico. NY va al centro y regresa, luego cualquier carga que necesite ir hacia el sur desde allí se recoge y se dirige al tren SY. ese tren luego regresa al centro

[@dorlagon2420]

i must have done something wrong, I get this set up a go, and there are a lot of train keep clogging up where they switching from main line to cargo station line, I dont know how many trains is max for this station, I mean I still earnning money, but just not at much as my past game play, getting cargo warehouse for each maybe 2 industry have 1 station to trasport goods directly to or from where it is needed, I make way more money that way

[@Weamz]

Love the video but I'm failing to visualize what is happening at the 13:40 mark. You gave an example but it was too quick for me to understand how trains are going to be full both ways from the sorting hub to distribution hub and back. Would love to see a video of the trains running the full length of the route to understand what is happening. Can do you this with trucks? Would a sorting and distribution network work with a large fleet of trucks? Thanks!

[@Hushey]

Thank you for sharing, planning on explaining better in a coming video. Just working right now so if you give me a reminder or join the discord in the description and we can get you sorted out

[@P4eeoo]

Helpful as always!

[@Hushey]

thank you P4eeoo glad you enjoyed

[@Xingmey]

Another way to do this, is to have a mainline going from city to city, and then use the cargo stations at every city as your sorting hubs. last game i played i did it like that, and had many hubs, and long trains going from hub to hub they were full every direction and to every other hub, trucks and co buzzing arround. making me billions a decade - it was glorious. problem i see with your loop and connection to the mainline is, that it only uses 1 track for going in and out, and thus making it pretty... well let's say inefficient. that could be a problem for large volumes of trains coming and going - but nothing that can't be tweaked. liek the setup of your train and cargo stations and will surely give it a try.

[@Hushey]

Hey thanks for your feedback. Its set up like this for max length cargo trains that go full speed, so frequency is not an issue as capacity is more important whereas its the opposite for passenger

[@waynegarrett1614]

I have copied the lay out for the SY exactly the same as you but I have huge traffic build of of trains trying to get in and out.

[@Hushey]

add more inputs/combine trains and make trains longer/seperate outbound and inbound goods to dedicated tracks(last resort). It works flawlessly on my map, and every map is different so have a play 😀

[@waynegarrett1614]

@@Hushey Thank you for your reply, Can I strongly recommend you make a video showing how to set up a cargo line and explain the load & Unload %, and how you make a route where one train delivers cargo to multiple cities. There does not seem to be any videos on KZbin explain this correctly and my main source of knowledge comes from watching your videos over & over.

[@Hushey]

Ill make videos whenever i can. Real life work is winding down and i can finally get back on it soon 😀

[@Alteregohms]

It would be really helpful to see the whole chain for a commodity, from log to plank to tool and then to the city. How does that work?

[@Hushey]

Yes it would, which i plan to release a video explaining very soon

[@Saknika]

I'm just getting into TF2, and these are the kinds of videos I've been searching high and low for. 💜

[@Hushey]

Love it! Glad you find them useful

[@ostpanzer]

nice vid but ....doing it last 2 days and always have congesion with the trains outside from it ,never move inside or trains inside never start moving .. i dont know what i am doing wrong here

[@Hushey]

Have a play around with it! As long as you have train hierarchy it shouldnt matter so much how you input things into the system! Best of luck ost!

[@ostpanzer]

@@Hushey ty for you respond !! is there a guied somewere that i can read or watch about how you put train hierachy ?

[@Hushey]

@ostpanzer yes! Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5LPlIlpftamftE

[@SanjaIvanovicc]

Good video but why do u keep the electrical line on tracks with diesel/steam trains?

[@Hushey]

Because some of the track isnt electrified but electric trains need to use it too

[@S-396-Shark]

does this setup means that the sorting yards also works for the towns that are nearby it? or that only are design for carrying cargo to the distribution hub?

[@Hushey]

everything goes to distribution and is then shipped from there (or your capital wont grow)

[@S-396-Shark]

@@Hushey i see. i guess you then spread the cargo to the other cities with from the distribution center with either mid or low tier trains depending on how far they are. then with trucks for the last few km.

[@Hushey]

@@S-396-Shark exactly thats right

[@S-396-Shark]

@@Hushey thank you for the clearing that up! imma try this setup with a current saved im playing. 2 billion dollars should be enough to endure a entire system change lol.

[@bosszhevsky]

Hushey! I’ve been watching your videos lately. I’d like to ask how do you increase cargo types from 2 to 6 mid-game?

[@Hushey]

Advanced settings, town cargo demands

[@alanramiresbr]

I'm dying to see you using cargo planes with this idea of sorting hubs with distributor centers in future videos. Good job. I can't wait to try this idea you just show might be useful. I have a big map with a huge lake in the center and a small island with 2 towns in the center - will it be the distributor center?, should the sorting yard be in each corner? what do you recommend?

[@Hushey]

Planes arent ideal, but if used for this you can add one extra route that goes north yard to south yard because of the speed difference. A big map probably isnt big enough for any (at least jet) planes. Centre is distribution, try and get it near the capital city, and either extremety of the map a sorting yard

[@alanramiresbr]

@Hushey I revisited your video a few times and made an insane strategy. On my map that looks like a horseshoe with water underneath and an island in the middle, where the capital would be a little lower than the center, I planned for 4 SY to be in the corners and for everything in a half-moon range to be pulled towards the SY. Even the factories that were 2 or 3 towns away from the SY. Even the ship that would come sailing under the horseshoe brought goods to the bottom left corner of the first SY. It happened as you predicted, the SYs became crowded, and the ships brought goods to the corner and went to the SYs, but I think I made a mistake with the loop because it formed a queue to turn around and created congestion of many small trains. I had to increase it to 8 tracks and it became congested with 100m trains. The cross-country lines (a train line that stops in several cities along the way) I used along with the freight trains, but I missed the commute trains (which only connect city A to city B, and back again... right?). But for the first time I saw that I knew what to do, that even if I pull everything into the SY, then a train leaves for the capital in the center carrying all kinds of wagons and when it arrives there in the deposits, I created mini-distribution hubs at an equal distance from the capital and the other cities (the map I'm playing has 31 cities and it's a megalomaniac. and from there it goes by truck to serve the cities near the capital, including the capital itself. But I had to create 2 capitals for this, one on the continent to the left of the horseshoe and one on the continent to the right. The map is Rio de Janeiro - Brazil, I'm quite sure you gonna love it on Steam workshop :) -- in case you wanna check my plan prnt.sc/gMarNA7HwkAE I keep restarting the map till make it happen lol

[@stephenrobbins2038]

Thanks for your reply Hushey, I have set up as per your video and it’s working fine, I was getting some trains blocking each other but it’s fine now. One more question if you don’t mind. You said in the video to set vehicles to all on set up but can it be done in a save game? If so how do I do it. I’m on hard mode and have 10 billion in the bank so don’t want to start over. Thanks mate.

[@Hushey]

Yes no worries press advanced settings aka the mod page then go to settings top of screen and its under vehicles.

[@waynegarrett1614]

@Hushey Hi, I am unsure when setting routes on the correct way to tell trains what platform to use. Should I select one platform to be used for each type of cargo? For example food drop off and pick up to use platform 1 only, fuel on platform 2 and so on? OR Should i select say come in on platform 1 to drop or pick up food BUT come in on any other platform if platform 1 is in use? I have set up a main cargo hub in the middle of the map which all types of cargo come in to and then trains picking up that type of cargo and taking it off to north and south cargo hub to be dropped off where then other trains come in pick up what ever is evadible and take it off to the near by cities. As I have lots of trains all coming in to the center cargo hub they are backing up and blocking the lines. Please please help me.

[@Hushey]

Hi wayne, every line is an alternate platform on all platforms. If you want to speed it up add 2 long platforms that are alternate for the medium cargo aka yard-distribution trains

[@JohBak010]

Wondering: why do you place signals on the exits of the station as every platform already has built in signals?

[@Hushey]

Visuals mostly for me 😀There may be a reason not yet found but i think it looks cool

[@JohBak010]

@@Hushey Clear! Thanks for your reply. Visuals are important too 😀

[@twetter3797]

What is the difference between a sorting hub and a distribution center?

[@Hushey]

Sorting yard/hubs are yards not in the centre, that collect and feed the central distribution hub

[@linteo08]

In my savegame, bottlenecks are constantly created and im using your setup. And i only have 3 line connected all outbound. Is there another type of station i can use or any suggestions to fix traffic?

[@Hushey]

make 2. One long one for NY/SY-DH trains and this design next to it for shunting trains. The design has come so far since this its awesome

[@linteo08]

@@Hushey thanks x

[@linteo08]

@@Hushey what do u mean by ny/sy-dh trains? thank u in advance

[@Hushey]

@@linteo08 north yard/south yard to distribution hub

[@linteo08]

@@Hushey so obvious yet I couldn't tell 😂 thanks

[@bambibooty489]

Hopefully you're still playing, question. I've set up the Cargo hub and Distribution Hub. I have oil going from the cargo hub, trucks take it to be processed, however I need some raw oil to stay on the platform to be taken to a different location, is this possible? thank you for the helpful video

[@Hushey]

Of course, still making videos for this game, its my main thing on my channel. Select the line and press on the custom settings for the line. Then set the load to 80% or something and itll take less from the pool. Alternatively, add more shunter trains to the raw from the pump jacks to the yards

[@bambibooty489]

thanks so much for the reply, really appreciate it

[@Hushey]

@@bambibooty489love, bro

[@rafcion6726]

You should do a tutorial of how to name your lines to not get mixed up with these when trying to just smuggle one type of cargo through several types of vehicles and stations 8)

[@Hushey]

Bricks 1/2/3 etc and use the in game selector for the type of vehicle on line eg train/truck

[@rafcion6726]

@@Hushey its a thing?!

[@heapun9549]

Love it! Looks really nice on the eye

[@Hushey]

glad you love it heapun! Thanks for leaving a comment

[@Dentwido]

thanks for this tutorial. the only problem i have is that if u let the trains use multiple platforms, train will sometimes do a loop, while it shouldnt, and can create congerstion

[@Hushey]

This shouldnt happen. Share this to the discord to get it resolved.

[@utkarshmahna370]

Hey I've a doubt, you're taking raw goods to sorting yards and then from there they ( raw ) goes to distribution center, when and where does these raw goods reach industries? Does machines tools goods etc get in the sorting yard beforehand? I've another doubt, if the factory is far off the sorting yard and close to the industry, should we still implement this? Thanks appreciate your video ❤

[@Hushey]

Thanks for your comment utkarshmahna. The raw goods, if they do cross the map, go to another sorting yard where a shunting train (or smaller type) transports them away. The cooked good then comes back with them, and then back down mainline to the distribution yard in the capitol city

[@colincochrane6015]

Hi Hushey, tried to build this but couldn't get the raw goods to start producing. For example, I linked crude to the hub with one train, crude to refined oil with the second, bringing back the refined to the hub, then a third train taking refined to the fuel factory, then trucks to take the fuel to the city. Do I need truck stops at every resource? Thanks in advance

[@Hushey]

@colincochrane6015 as long as the raw is plugged in, the end product delivery is plugged in, and everything in between, it will work

[@albahd8513]

Hi so i got 1 question, i made the Main hub and i made it that Trains & trucks send stuff to the Hub, my problem is now tho that even tho i got a line that should take the grain from the Main hub to a food factory there is nothing to transport, the trucks & trains dont provide anything to the Main hub. Does anybody know why?

[@Hushey]

make sure the farm is plugged into the shared network

[@albahd8513]

Ye I found out the mistake already, the rail wasn't connected with the food production factory

[@Hushey]

@albahd8513 Brill

[@pawys5792]

Thanks for the guide. Where did you learn all this stuff. Do you recommend any websites/youtube channel for tf2?

[@Hushey]

i learnt through experimenting! Thanks for commenting pawys. I recommend honestly, just play the game and have a mess around with it! Enjoy

[@bouncegenesisukbounce]

why does my tracks not want to curve like yours so tight? they just go really really really wide like map wide curve

[@Hushey]

I used the tightest vanilla curves

[@bouncegenesisukbounce]

@@Hushey ah tyty

[@arrow1island]

Not sure if I get this, so the only vehicles making any money are those that take the goods to their final destination. Eg: all the trucks are making money, the trains feeding the cities are making money, but everything else being used to get cargo to those hubs are running at a loss.

[@Hushey]

Pretty much, or runs at a small profit or breaks even. The extreme profit from your mainline cargo beats point to point by miles, and it makes way less traffic on the mainline.

[@Radiomate]

Hi Hushey! I'm a brand new player and I'm really struggling with the trains,do you have a save file you could share so I can see how it works in real time? Would help massively :) your super talented and love the idea of making the distribution hub, I've subscribed and watching your other videos :)

[@Hushey]

I do share the save i use in videos on my patreon page (in the top pinned comment and description), but if that isnt for you all the info is free online in the videos on how i made it 😀Thanks for watching

[@Radiomate]

@Hushey thanks Hushey! I've become a patrean member now (M6CEB) you do amazing work 😜 can't seem to see any save files or posts though, enjoy your videos

[@Hushey]

@@Radiomate Ah thank you brilliant, I should have sent you an email :)

[@Radiomate]

@@Hushey yeh got it thanks 🙏 I'll try it when I'm home. Will I download the mods needed? On my mobile atm so haven't tried to download it. Will really help to see how you have it setup love those hub designs 🤩

[@Hushey]

It should help yes! And you will need the mods. If there are any issues however, i dont mind making a version with mods missing (but this might make missing models/textures which you would need to replace with something else). Give it a try and let me know how it goes

[@vlasihinn]

I don't understand whats the difference between the sorting hubs and the distribution one?! You just don't feed any cities from the sorting hubs? Everything goes from DH?

[@Hushey]

Join the discord i will explain to you

[@speedodog]

How do you get such a big map

[@Hushey]

Watch my "how to get huge maps in transport fever 2" video (you can find this by searching this term on youtube

[@dawatcherz]

what mods did you use in this video?

[@Hushey]

No mods needed.

[@jaridunet]

Works better if you have cluster of raw materials on one side of the map and factories on the other side of the map, in general, I mean. If I understood correctly there would be a big train carrying only final products and passing to all and every city on the map, correct? Anyways, it is a fresh idea that I would consider experiment with soon. Thank you.

[@Hushey]

Not really, as all industries share anyway with this method so this would just be a visual thing if it were like that. I appreciate its not an easy thing to understand as there is a lot of moving components and im not the best explainer 😅Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 😀

[@that1swede164]

So how much would this cost at let’s say 1940 or 1950

[@Hushey]

Depends on difficulty, but a lot. Big investment huge rewards.

[@Tu0nii]

Could you do a video on the best way to set up buses?

[@Hushey]

maybe in future yes!

[@RainbowMANted]

Hi is there a link or any mod you used in this short? thanks

[@Hushey]

I dont believe so, no.

[@Trootsbloxplayzthemetalfan]

Do you have the link to the RA2?

[@Hushey]

Like bus wise? Yes local stations in cities have a bus connection

[@Trootsbloxplayzthemetalfan]

@@Hushey the train

[@Trootsbloxplayzthemetalfan]

also i am on pc

[@Hushey]

@@Trootsbloxplayzthemetalfan the RA2 is a vanilla vehicle, you dont need to download anything.

[@Trootsbloxplayzthemetalfan]

@@Hushey what is it under in the train menu

[@CreepSoldier]

It kinda looks cool and fancy, but the problem is that it kinda goes against how several mechanics work in the game, to the point you must fight them and actively isolate lines from interacting with each other, otherwise the game will throw a curve ball on you and you wont even notice until something has stopped somewhere

[@Hushey]

i havent had this issue, would be interested in seing a video from you improving the design

[@basvh666]

i came back to the game after cities skylines 2 flopped

[@David-qx8cs]

I just wanna know what the seed is

[@Hushey]

long 1:5 meglomanic map with pretty default settings and surrounded by ocean mod used as seed generator

[@gamehelper3406]

great new idea

[@Hushey]

Thank you gamehelper!

[@darling69002]

how can i play on the same map?

[@Hushey]

Its available on my patreon!

[@darling69002]

​@@Husheyokey. I'm Patreon you now

[@Hushey]

@darling69002 Legend

[@darling69002]

​@@HusheyYea. I really like your content and find your tutorial really helpfull. Im playig tf2 from it's relase date but im still not good at it. Your tips are so good that but need to check it on my own to understood it better and if I need to pay w content in this excellent quality I'll do it because it's worth it your contend is to good bro

[@Hushey]

@darling69002 thank you bro! I still regulary update the map also, im overhauling the commuter trains service because they keep getting in the way of other trains so seing if there is a better way to do it. So if theres a few errors when you load up the map thatll be why, but everything runs regardless theyll just skip some stops probably

[@JBMorris9]

I want to start playing this game again, but I discovered this bug where source/raw industry products disappeared after they are delivered for processing. Has anyone else seen the same bug? Delivered 100 grains, but the food processing industry only produced about 40 food because 10 grains just disappeared.

[@malcolmsleight9334]

I don't think it's a bug. I believe that's waste or spoilage.

[@hwfgceltic5962]

Is there mods on console version of this game, cause it looks boring without them

[@Hushey]

this video is vanilla. You dont need mods to do this.

[@HerrGru]

Amazing 👍

[@Hushey]

Thanks Herr?

[@stevenwest0]

It only works when you have a few trains. As soon as you get going it's a disaster

[@Hushey]

Whats the issue? Share with everyone on discord and we can resolve it

[@trainformerd4134]

W vid📈📈

[@Hushey]

Thanks trainform you always support me really appreciate you. Glad you like it.

[@trainformerd4134]

Cus ur vids is wat I’m into like trains, games and Geography so I really like supporting u so keep up the hard work mate 👍 :)

[@lucianminea]

Every industry upgrade with the demand. With this type of ..... setup, you have no demand !

[@Hushey]

Yes you do, the demand dosent change unless you delete the cities or loads of buildings in the cities

[@DieselBlade93]

Just started the tutorial and most of this went over my head. Since you have about $4b I'm guessing this is very mid-late game stuff lol

[@Hushey]

yes this is an advanced tutorial. Check out the complete begineers guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIPdpYGiZ8mFsKM

[@Robbedem]

Good setup and well explained, but I would use a little 'cheat' and have the road depot just outside the train loop. That way the trucks don't have to wait at the rail crossing. (in busy stations that will be a lot!)

[@Hushey]

True! But by using lane maths a small delay at a train crossing wont make traffic! :)

[@Schicksal0]

So you never showed the heavy train :(

[@Hushey]

Yes i did didnt i? The one with all the diff cargo types? If not sorry, its in my new vid

[@Schicksal0]

@@Hushey it would be cool if you can show how you set up those long trains and how they distribute the goods and how they perform :)

[@janodeblauwer8692]

Seed??

[@Hushey]

no clue sorry. The map is available through my patreon

[@USBCord]

Wow! :D

[@Hushey]

glad you liked it USB!

[@s1nb4d59]

Seems like a tidy setup but looks messy,everyone seems to be getting on the HUB train,there are better alternatives.

[@Hushey]

Thats a good thing. One train with everything is better than lots of trains with one thing each

[@s1nb4d59]

@@Hushey Yeah ive just recently got back into TF2 and have grabbed some of the newer mods,some great ones out there and after watching your video i dont think i picked my mouth up off the floor for a few minutes,im having issues with dropping off freight and picking up at the same terminal with a different train atm,this game requires alot of patience to say the least.

[@grayhill6728]

I have a 1000 hours in TF2, so I get the basic mechanics. Your tutorial is great, but it would be much better if you stuck to one thing. I have watched this twice, but I still don't entirely understand how you are setting up the system and why taking something from the outer edges of the map to the sorting yard, then to the center, and then by truck back to wherever is more efficient. Part of the problem is all the rapid fire skip-cuts back and forth between stuff you don't need in this tutorial, like how to lay tracks and signals, with the stuff that stitches together your main ideas about how the system works at the macro level. In other words, you seem to speed past the most important explanations and interrupt that explanation with recipes for train stations. My suggestion would be start with thoroughly explaining the big picture ideas, then if necessary, work down to the details. But I'd have rather seen -- on the big map, not close ups of train stations -- the path of a raw commodity through processing, the various stations, and to the final destination. Hope that helps.

[@Hushey]

Thanks, it does. I mostly posted this format to get hyper retention with people repeating sections as unfortunately the algorithm is into this right now but i understand the value of a more explanitory video, which im aiming to put out soon

[@baileyjones159]

@@Hushey I'd agree with the grayhill above. I've watched the video a few times and honestly am having trouble understanding how this is working in the big picture. What if I have towns on the very southern end of the map? How would I connect them to the center for distribution? (Rail or truck)?

[@Hushey]

@baileyjones159 try this video this may help kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKi5mX2OnNmZgcksi=ePhi8ZMxzuDrw8A3

[@that1swede164]

I’d rather just have different lines all converging onto a mainline and freight going onto it and to the towns

[@Hushey]

why? Needless traffic, just make it one train. Youre just making late game harder for yourself not managing your traffic

[@that1swede164]

@@Hushey yeah I get what you’re saying but it’ll be super annoying to tear down all my work and then redo it, I might test it out to see how well it works but even then just doing this for aesthetics isn’t that good

[@Hushey]

@that1swede164 yeah but annoying for a minute saves a load of hastle late game

[@bigburd875]

Im gonna end up getting a degree in logistics so i can play TF2 better

[@Hushey]

Hell yeah

[@seppl5811]

how can that bei profitabel. all the trains are deadheading...

[@Hushey]

quite the opposite, very few trains are. Thats the entire point of this design

[@meixo9083]

i dont get it😟

[@Hushey]

What dont you get specifically? Either join the discord or watch more cargo related videos on the channel and that will probably help explain it more to you

[@Arelium]

My steam account got stolen and they sent you a scam link and you unfriended me!!..

[@Hushey]

Well yeah, i dont want scam links in my inbox so i stopped the point of contact

[@taufik_ar11]

✨✨✨✨ gokil bang

[@Hushey]

👍👍

[@that1swede164]

Yeah nah I tried it, not doing it, not worth it in my mind. Sorry, plus I don’t get traffic since I don’t have a mainline

[@Hushey]

if you dont have a mainline then did you really try it? The whole point is to cut down on costs by only using what you need and running it up to its max capcity before adding something else. You dont get traffic because your lines sit vacant and wasting money while no trains use them

[@that1swede164]

@@Hushey nonono I use point to point, direct services, etc. which I find to work better for me, no disrespect to you or anything it’s a great idea but it just works better, plus on console it’s much more difficult to actually follow through.

[@Hushey]

@that1swede164 yeah give it a try, point to point is not efficient

[@TrojasRache]

das gibt doch innerhalb kürzester zeit stau auf den gleisen ohne ende...

[@Hushey]

Nein, das werden sie nicht, wenn Sie den Überblick behalten und die Anzahl der Einstiegspunkte entsprechend der Nachfrage verwalten

[@Viktorfrompoland]

bro this is too goofy to do that💀😭

[@Hushey]

Why? This is copying whats done irl

[@restushlogic5794]

From $5.5B to $3B and still losing money.

[@Hushey]

You? Think something must have gone wrong

[@restushlogic5794]

@@Hushey no, your video started 5.5B and the last minute become 3B

[@Hushey]

@@restushlogic5794 no it didnt. earnings on 48 at end