Saginaw 800 Power Steering Gear Box Part 4

[@vikenlink]

Hello there.... that’s a great video... I used a few of your tips rebuilding my power steering gear.. the ball bearing part installation instructions was very difficult. There’s a much easier way to do the bearings. Just assemble the unit... then Feed the bearings in chrome black as instructed in your video. As you turn the input shaft back and forth, the bearings will go into the housing and worm gear easily. Then assemble the remaining bearings in the cage with grease. Tie strap it. Then carefully install it in the housing . Strap, bolts and you’re done. 👌

[@juliocesarmaza8563]

What about the different colored bearings, they don't matter? The order of the colors does not matter, did you put one of one color and another of another? Or first the dark ones and then the light ones? thanks greetings from mexico I have a jeep cj7.. great video great help😀

[@hutchhiperf]

The balls move 360 degrees in a circle. What you start with doesn't matter. Just go dark, silver back and forth.

[@50105nelson]

When installing the teflon ring on the piston, boil some water with the ring in it. The teflon ring will expand enough to install without stretching it and shrink tighter to the piston so that it can be installed in the case later. I forced it and ended up scoring the cylinder making my box trash.

[@hutchhiperf]

Good info there. If I ever do another, I'm going to try that. Thanks.

[@icesoft1]

If you drive the seals down with the snap-ring on top of the stack (once you've driven the stack of seals and washers below the end of the snout), it will snap in place and prevent you from over-driving the seals.

[@hutchhiperf]

Good idea. It seems obvious now that you say it. Next time :-)

[@hutchhiperf]

It should work if done correctly. The installation of the stub shaft and worm drive comes first on reassembly, so it would be like you did that part already. Take your time and test it thoroughly when completed.

[@pedroarroyo9684]

I like to watch how you put the ball

[@a-l-o-n9997]

Wow great guide ! Can you upload again the video from part 4? I tried explorer and it still doesn't work.... What is the order of the ball bearings? Does it one first black second silver etc...? ?

[@hutchhiperf]

Check the comments. There's a link to the vid on my FB page. The ball bearings are in a loop so it doesn't matter where you start, just go every other.

[@hutchhiperf]

@@ShredDead I have the whole video series for that posted on on my FB page, not associated with playing through YT if that helps.

[@hutchhiperf]

If my 19 min video shows up as 3 min, switch to Internet Explorer and watch. Contacted YT multiple times about issue in Chrome and no response. Maybe they're on vacation ;-)

[@jjbailey01]

Viewing from the KZbin app has this issue too.

[@jjbailey01]

Yeah. I have no way of watching more than 3 minutes of this.

[@anthonyg8843]

I have a question about the reassembly of the gear box. I never took the shaft apart. Just popped the ring and cup off and pulled the piston out. If I repack the bearings and then put the piston in, will the gear box work properly, or do I have to take the shaft apart as well?

[@mikebruegger8654]

Isn't it easier to put ball bearings in through the side access before installing the ball guide tunnel with the strap and the screws?

[@hutchhiperf]

Not sure. I did it this way, and it's the first one I've done in a dog's life sooo....

[@SteveRoche314]

Ahhh...I can't play past 3 minutes, and it looks like the videos aren't on Facebook anymore. Is there anywhere else to watch this? Great videos though!!

[@hutchhiperf]

fb.watch/7mW2xTn5XG/ Not sure what you mean. It's on MY FB page. Are you sure you looked there? Either way, that link will take you there.

[@SteveRoche314]

@@hutchhiperf Awesome, thanks, that link works. Sorry for the confusion. The link in the description wasn't working for me, then I found the wrong profile in Facebook. All good now.

[@hutchhiperf]

@@SteveRoche314 Ahh, thank you!! I checked the link and it WAS dead. Not sure what FB did, or why the link was changed, but I went back and fixed it in the comments. Thanks again, I would have never known that.

[@sylvestereliseo3540]

What is the problem of hard steering

[@robertdavis1866]

How did you remove the plug on the end of the rack piston?

[@hutchhiperf]

If I remember, I used a 3/8 impact and hit it once to break it loose. You could also wrap it in a shop towel and use a vise to hold it and use a wrench or ratchet to get it off.

[@bigpig41]

Have a Saginaw 800 apart from my 98 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 , it was a rebuilt unit fromAdvance Auto Parts two years ago, never been happy as holding the wheel straight it would let truck dive to each side of lane on highway when everything else seems tight, Also only finding 11 black and 11 chrome bearings....do i slap it back together with that number or go find another unit for parts?? And how do i know when the unit it filled up with bearings?

[@bigpig41]

tom johns do you need to make sure that the spirals inside the piston are completely filled up with bearings with no space between them; and then comming up to the level surface of the piston where you are inserting them(both holes) and then up into and completely filling the two halves of the guide with no space between??? otherwise do you cause the spiral shaft to be able to wiggle back and forth slightly which allows the two gears to get apart slightly causing PLAY in your steering???

[@hutchhiperf]

tom johns I had 24 total in my 800 (12 Dark and 12 Silver) these should go in every other. You may have to research your box and see if 22 is the norm. Mine was a stock box. There will be a little room in between the bearings, so they don't have to be packed touching, just all in the groove.

[@bigpig41]

hutchhiperf have the piston filled with all 22 bearings with the guide made up of the two halves bolted in place and it is completely filled with 6 bearings; when you look inside at the greased bearings you can see the two sharp tips of the two halves of the guide sticking out into the spiral groove on the inside of the piston....they form kind of a stop or help corral the bearings up into the guide with their sharp tips sticking out into the groove in the inside of the piston . Well, with all the 16 bearings that aren't in the guide packed up against one of these sharp stops on the guide and then all the slack removed from between the bearings it looks like there is space for exactly TWO MORE bearings which I don't have and wern't in the unit when I tore it apart(did your monte carlo unit have any space left in the spiral between the two sharp tips of the guide after you placed all those bearings in there?)......makes me wonder if those two were there if i woulda had less play in my steering....although i have to admit the adjustment HAD to be way off on my unit b/c i hadn't had a chance to see inside before and see what your actually adjusting......Thanks for your help

[@hutchhiperf]

tom johns Every place I find a rebuild vid or pictorial, it shows 24 ball-bearings. Not sure if you can find them sold as a pack of 12 dark and 12 silver, but I would look around first.

[@johnwiseman5556]

I didn't see where you rebuilt sector shaft? How do you initially adjust the shaft in rebuilt steering gear box?

[@hutchhiperf]

Refer back to Video 1 to see me make that adjustment...right before it leaked like a sieve.

[@anthonyg8843]

Do you know how many ball bearings a 68 camaro takes? I have it apart and only came up with 22 ball bearings >.<

[@jarvistron2651]

Thank you very professional.

[@hutchhiperf]

Thanks

[@paulpieterrooth9794]

I do a steering box from a 1983 Chevy van I have olso only 22 ball bearings I opend the box In a aluminum deep box to prefent loosing bearing balls I thake a 18 mm rubber water hose whats covert whit grease Thanks for the tips in youre video

[@hutchhiperf]

Thanks. I'm glad it helped.

[@paulpieterrooth9794]

Michael Juriga I had a another steeringbox and was also the same 22 bearings and the second is easy to do

[@anthonyg8843]

Ok cool. Thanks a lot!!

[@rodger84ss]

Does the video freeze for anyone else around the 3:06 mark?

[@hutchhiperf]

Read the comments below for the video. I literally address that very thing.

[@anaandthomas5166]

does it not matter if the new bearing has the ridge on it?

[@hutchhiperf]

I'm not sure what you're asking.

[@anaandthomas5166]

The large bearing at 12:30, my original has a “rim” on it and the replacements at parts stores don’t, they can’t tell me and have no idea why

[@hutchhiperf]

@@anaandthomas5166 Sometimes there will be a difference in the appearance of replacement parts. Have them open a box from a different manufacturer and compare. If they all look the same, that's your part. Probably only two or three places make that bearing and multiple companies package it with their name on it.

[@willardearl76]

Does the grease used to hold the ball bearings contaminate the power steering fluid?

[@hutchhiperf]

Not really. Only enough is used to hold the balls in place. I used synthetic grease, others have used petroleum jelly. Either way, it's not a lot. After installation you can perform a P/S flush if there is a concern of contamination.

[@Edmocci]

+willardearl76 Yes, certainly.

[@Cpcsof1]

When the video hits the 3:04 mark, it freezes and all I get is audio from then on.

[@hutchhiperf]

Hmmm? The video is supposed to be 19 min long. It's now 3 min 4 sec. I'll have to check with YT to get this resolved. Thanks for letting me know.

[@ThatsKINKY94]

Does the same thing. Ends at 3.04

[@hutchhiperf]

I sent something to YT tech dept. Guess they don't care too much. No reply.

[@hutchhiperf]

So it shows and plays all 19:11 in Internet Explorer, but not chrome. I've tried two different computers with chrome and only get the 3:04. Anyone figure this out??

[@hutchhiperf]

If my 19 min video shows up as 3 min, switch to Internet Explorer and watch. Contacted YT multiple times about issue in Chrome and no response. Maybe they're on vacation ;-)

[@dalegarvin5458]

Part 4 froze up at 3min21 sec. Could not get it to work

[@hutchhiperf]

I've complained to YT to no avail. The vid works in IE or go over to my Facebook page. It's posted there in full.

[@MonuMonu-hi4yz]

good

[@hutchhiperf]

Thank you!!

[@Nachbars]

... at 3:05 the picture stand still

[@hutchhiperf]

Read the comments

[@jonalbert75]

The images freezer it's bad

[@hutchhiperf]

The copy is corrupted. I asked for help from YT with no reply. Go to my Facebook page, I have all 5 there. Good copies.

[@m3talc0re]

Wtf happened to the video?

[@hutchhiperf]

Did you read the comments or my description? YT hasn't done a thing to help. If i delete the video and re-upload I loose all the views. Watch on IE or go to my FB page for the whole vid. Sorry for the glitch. I got nowhere with YT over this.

[@m3talc0re]

@@hutchhiperf I was in the middle of doing this when I had the problem with the video. I just quickly skimmed the comments and didn't see a mention of the video bring broken. I think I figured out the bearings though. I hope XD

[@m3talc0re]

@@hutchhiperf I love it though, "here's the most difficult part and here's how you do it *video breaks*". On a related note, I think I got he bearings in there wrong because i can hear a pop before it reaches the furthest right it'll go before lock. I frustrated and pissed and I'm just going to get a rebuilt. Screw taking it all back apart.

[@holybritches]

Thank you for this great series...so very helpful. One question, what is that strange background noise in all of the videos? It sounds like an old ship creaking or something.

[@hutchhiperf]

Haha! It was my old mini disc recorder. You could hear the gears creaking that spun the disc. I got rid of that crappy thing.

[@kelseyanderson121]

Thanks, that's all I can hear now :/