HX Stomp for Bass: The Perfect Mini Pedalboard w/Ian Martin Allison

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Janek Gwizdala

Janek Gwizdala

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@xdoctorblindx
@xdoctorblindx 10 ай бұрын
Ian needs to do an entire series on using the HX Stomp for bass. He could provide a total masterclass!
@IanMartinAllison
@IanMartinAllison 10 ай бұрын
I want to go to Janek’s!
@sasmithananth7771
@sasmithananth7771 10 ай бұрын
Technically does something like this over at SBL. Bro is a genius.
@dmsea6811
@dmsea6811 10 ай бұрын
Yeah i have the stomp but no idea how to use it
@samblazich
@samblazich 8 ай бұрын
Yes please!!!!
@JeffWok
@JeffWok 3 ай бұрын
@@LaurentOliveri here we are 6 months after this video and I just bought one yesterday. Because Ian makes that thing dance.
@IanMartinAllison
@IanMartinAllison 10 ай бұрын
Janek you legend! Thanks so much for the lovely hang.
@Rodney_see
@Rodney_see 10 ай бұрын
And thank you Ian!
@Energy_from.the_Sun
@Energy_from.the_Sun 10 ай бұрын
More of this please
@JuanHunnid
@JuanHunnid 9 ай бұрын
Mr. Allison..do you have the link to those 1/4” and XLR plugs?
@wolfwarren6376
@wolfwarren6376 10 ай бұрын
I watched the complete conversation yesterday. I said it to Ian in his DMs, and I’ll say it here: this conversation is easily top 5 Janek Gwizdala Podcast episodes; your similarities are so very core to both of you, and your differences are so very complimentary. More than any other interview I can remember on this podcast, this feels like the musician’s version of actors on actors, and though it’s not often seen done, it’s also a brilliant analogue to a “directors on directors” conversation. Wonderfully done. I look forward to the possibility of you two doing something more in the future, as well as the three of you, including “Mr. Glove” himself. 🙌🔥
@danielcorrigan8805
@danielcorrigan8805 2 ай бұрын
I love that IMA isn't just a great bass player. He's also a great teacher, and a lot of great players are not the latter.
@_B_E_A_D_G_C
@_B_E_A_D_G_C 10 ай бұрын
2 pedal lovers nerding out. I’m in heaven .
@crocholiday
@crocholiday 10 ай бұрын
The IMA presets have helped me understand sound desingn using the HX Stomp. And for that, I salute him! I just updated my stomp and I saw they added a Noble DI model. Imagine that, a Noble under $1000 that you don't have to wait 32 weeks to get lol. My Noble screamed "Imposter!!" when I plugged the stomp back in and has quit talking to me... lol. And dude... that one note jam was epic. So good...
@iPivo
@iPivo 10 ай бұрын
I love Janek’s phrasing so much! @ 13:50 after 4 notes I could recognize his vocabulary and note choice. So fun listening to you guys geeking out about effects, and playing together
@doubledecker1094
@doubledecker1094 10 ай бұрын
YES! Great observation, and he has clearly achieved what he set out to do, as explained in the full episode, of being recognisable after just 1 or 2 notes.
@wallace_nelson
@wallace_nelson 10 ай бұрын
This was such a great video. I would have loved to see more HX Stomp sounds and presets between you both. More Pedals No Problems. Thanks for Sharing.
@MikeKobb
@MikeKobb 10 ай бұрын
That sound with the Fender amp with the spring reverb and trem made me think of the old Twin Peaks theme. Great atmospheric feel!
@axlbraun
@axlbraun 10 ай бұрын
The HX stomp was always on my GAS list. Watched the brilliant vid and now a purple Stomp is on the way to me. Thanks to Ian too. You both are amazing tone wizards.
@thisisMRJAMES
@thisisMRJAMES 10 ай бұрын
Janek wanted to resolve that note, but nope, wait for it, loooool. Brilliant video guys.
@fusdepilee
@fusdepilee 10 ай бұрын
Could sit and listen to you two all day, full pod was superb 👍 Also I want an HX Stomp now so my bank account doesn’t thank you…
@image30p
@image30p 2 ай бұрын
Such a sweet spirit in this episode. Man, we need it. Beautiful playing. I love the gear. Keep it coming.
@TheBbouge
@TheBbouge 9 ай бұрын
Every video I watch with Ian on, I learn something. Thank you for this!
@dominikpalmer7014
@dominikpalmer7014 10 ай бұрын
Guys, thanks so much for that channel! It's so wonderful to listen to you all. That's what we needed. And finally you guys do it. In a sympathetic, competent way. Thanks!
@conradsz
@conradsz 10 ай бұрын
I have idea what they’re talking about for the most part but it’s fascinating to listen to.
@Al_Mac125
@Al_Mac125 10 ай бұрын
Watched the whole interview today. Surch a great chat. As I enter my 40th year of being a gigging/touring bass player, I really wish there were bass centric podcasts around years ago. Increadible insight from both of you. Massive fan of IMA from SBL podcasts with Scott. Some of the non bass banter bits are the best😅
@BobbyKewley
@BobbyKewley 10 ай бұрын
Loved watching the full podcast! Great to see you both together at last, a great hang! 😊
@ethanlocke3604
@ethanlocke3604 10 ай бұрын
I’d definitely love to see more with y’all together in the future!
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 10 ай бұрын
This podcast was a gem! I loved how when you guys did that small jam there wasn’t a word said it was a look and you both knew you were about to play something together, that’s magical
@BurningHandSounds
@BurningHandSounds 10 ай бұрын
Holy Fuck! That Montana patch just sold me on the HX Stomp.
@sergiocolmenares9482
@sergiocolmenares9482 9 ай бұрын
The jam was amazing, so natural 🎉
@martinhaywood8040
@martinhaywood8040 10 ай бұрын
I also have a simple board comprising - boss OC5, 2 notes revolt (clean, dirt & drive), mini bass wah @ line 6 hx one (I use phaser, chorus, flanger or synth and when not using them I use the compressor or reverb).
@RCM-Bass
@RCM-Bass 4 ай бұрын
Ian, I just added the Sushi Box Neptunium Tube DI at the end of my HX Stomp pedalboard. It sweetens my Stomp so well.
@ShaksBassChannel
@ShaksBassChannel 5 ай бұрын
Great content thanks - I’ve just picked up one of Ian’s preset bundles - they sound fantastic! Janek’s are next on the list 😎
@corykendall361
@corykendall361 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic. Inspiring. Musically beautiful. What a pleasure and a privilege to have seen this video. A million thanks.
@MrEDL1966
@MrEDL1966 3 ай бұрын
Cool video for the outer limits and special tones to be had from this pedal. A great discussion as well, but will have to check out other videos for a full overview and rundown of the basics of this pedal.
@alanchicas
@alanchicas 5 ай бұрын
What bass are you using its soo beautiful.. i created my pedal mini board base on yours and just few day ago i got the pack finally i love it . I have watched this video soo many times in like 8 months .. ian you are the best thank you a lot u have make my life easy for my pedals. I don have a amp i was using one that i created that was bad i now im only using the one u create soo worth it the pack
@SamRommer
@SamRommer 10 ай бұрын
That beat boxing was 🔥
@paniccleo
@paniccleo 10 ай бұрын
Real cool sounds! Synth pedals can sound so cheezy but he makes it work.
@Yaksonator
@Yaksonator 10 ай бұрын
Come on, man. This was fantastic. More. Of. This.
@keziahj
@keziahj 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the effort you put into this. You make my world nicer, that is true. ❤
@megadawg342
@megadawg342 20 күн бұрын
The octaver with a bit of drive and chorus is brilliant, Scott. I still have the old school, 10 pedals on my bass pedal board. I do have an old ZOOM B1on that amazes me to this day. I try to duplicate what the BIG BOARD does, and I can get pretty close. I really prefer some of the softer patches in the ZOOM. The new HEADRUSH technology is pretty awesome, and they have a new one that is around $500 that will blow almost everything outta the water. I'm waiting to see you review that one. The Headrush FLEX.
@landonh3535
@landonh3535 10 ай бұрын
The Capo is incredible. I am supposed to send mine into get serviced for a small power issue, but I don't have another Preamp that can compare, so I am just dealing with it for now..lol. It's super versatile and the sound it puts out records perfectly.
@stuartholme4457
@stuartholme4457 9 ай бұрын
Dang guys, some really beautiful music! Janek showing how it's done over one chord. Pick some out notes to spice it up, then when you come back to in notes its so good!
@terrenceduncanson2716
@terrenceduncanson2716 10 ай бұрын
We share the same experience from Adam Clayton. 'Professor' Adam was my first bass instructor (he just doesn't know it yet)
@LorenLeonard
@LorenLeonard 7 ай бұрын
Love the versatility of the Stomp! I made the HX Stomp the centerpiece of my bass pedal board but it has failed during performances several times now. And I don't think I can point to any other causes because a simple restart of the Stomp solved it every time. Firmware is updated, blocks not maxed out, I'm just not sure I can count on it.
@thedoctajon
@thedoctajon 10 ай бұрын
Line 6 sponsorships for you both or we riot
@stuartholme4457
@stuartholme4457 9 ай бұрын
This is exceptionally cool... good job guys!
@cienciegos
@cienciegos 10 ай бұрын
It would be very interesting to go deeper on the need / relevance these days of having an amp - other than for practice purposes. I am finding more and more venues requiring going ampless or to connect to the venue’s amp. Seems like investing in a good preamp DI gives you more flexibility. 🤔 Loved the whole episode BTW! 🤩
@MrKermitt71
@MrKermitt71 7 ай бұрын
Great video , thanks ! Can you tell us more about the "hyperballad" preset. What settings are you using ?
@lawrencelevinson
@lawrencelevinson 7 ай бұрын
+1, which IMA preset was that? 🔥
@joshlawless1022
@joshlawless1022 2 ай бұрын
How Ian is not endorsed by Line 6 is beyond me. His Stomp tones are second to none. He’s the best.
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 2 ай бұрын
Companies don't endorse artists, artists endorse companies... An artist doesn't need a company's endorsement to be an artist, but a company needs an artist's endorsement to sell their product. Artists need support with gear, but that is a business transaction and not an"endorsement" of an artist's abilities.
@joshlawless1022
@joshlawless1022 2 ай бұрын
@@janekgwizdala you’re absolutely right. I meant it more as Line 6 should be showcasing what Ian is doing with their product and rewarding him for it! He’s sold me on one. Great interview.
@tattooeditalian2895
@tattooeditalian2895 Ай бұрын
I have a head rush prime and am considering downsizing to a stomp or stomp xl
@yuletide
@yuletide 2 ай бұрын
For someone just starting out I’m hoping the compressor is good enough in the stomp? That’s the only thing I need for now but I figured a stomp gives me a tuner and everything else for not much more money
@edoardospigarelli
@edoardospigarelli 2 ай бұрын
Hi, great video! Do you think a cab simulation is needed for the Capo before going to PA or it can handle the sound all alone? In this case how would you do? Sending a cab simulation via hx stomp to the post return of the Capo can be a solution? Many thanks!
@Joe_Murphy-REV_Realty
@Joe_Murphy-REV_Realty 2 ай бұрын
@13:41 I would buy a record of this!! That was Beautiful!!
@JaOnBass
@JaOnBass 10 ай бұрын
wow, enlightening, thank you for THIS!
@baszm
@baszm 9 ай бұрын
Was thoroughly enjoying the vid til it occured to me how come Janek's the one asking all the questions and Ian doing all the demos... til i realised this is not SBL 😅Great to see the table turning
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 although I kind of liked the fact it wasn’t a straight up interview where I asked a question, got and answer, and moved on. Was nice for it to be more of a conversation.
@baszm
@baszm 9 ай бұрын
@@janekgwizdala chit chatting is the best kinda “interview” 😄 Saw you guys play at Penang Jazz Fest Malaysia way back in 2009 with Oli and Jojo Mayer. Inspiring!
@allenpeters7995
@allenpeters7995 3 ай бұрын
love the Bjork example!!
@dangerousmethod_33
@dangerousmethod_33 Ай бұрын
Does anybody could tell me the name of model and brand of the bass behind Janek's back?, (the one with the white pickups)
@samblazich
@samblazich 10 ай бұрын
Great video!
@fiore9655
@fiore9655 10 ай бұрын
You 2 are unbelievable
@Brent-yv4hr
@Brent-yv4hr 6 ай бұрын
How do you listen to the presets on Ian’s website? I’d be interested in buying but I can’t find where to hear them so I can select the pack that works for me.
@ephraim.1964
@ephraim.1964 10 ай бұрын
Wow 2 giants sharing their knowledge with so much respect and admiration for each other. I’m so looking forward for part2. Just EPIC!!!!
@robertwozniak7650
@robertwozniak7650 9 ай бұрын
ThatBass is Killer w / Flats!
@MrKermitt71
@MrKermitt71 7 ай бұрын
In what pack is your 'hyperballad" preset ? Thanks
@paulholmes5240
@paulholmes5240 10 ай бұрын
I have a question as a person who has gear failure anxiety lol , if you just take the pedal board to a gig what is youre backup plan if it stops working ? As we know anything electrical is never fool proof .
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
I'm definitely confident in my ability as a player after all these years to be able to get through a gig without the pedals. But in 1000's of gigs involving pedals, I'm hard pushed to remember a time when the entire board failed. I don't think it's ever happened. Maybe a patch cable goes after too much wear and tear from traveling, or one of your pedals goes on the fritz. But I always carry spare cables, and could re patch my board mid song if I had to, so it's not the end of the world.
@justinkoller6599
@justinkoller6599 10 ай бұрын
Has either of you used a Source Audio C4 for synth and filters? I have one as the sole pedal on the FX loop, and always feel Im just on the tip of the iceberg with its possibilities, but it fills all the gaps left unsolved by the HX for me. Definitely a miss regarding low pass filters, and pitch tracking.
@prisonfinger
@prisonfinger 10 ай бұрын
Do you use a powered peddleboard or the original stomp power adapter, I have a regular size board and a mini board and neither seem to support the stomps power needs
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
I use the Cioks range of power supplies. Mainly the DC7 on the touring board, but also the Cioks 4 on smaller setups. I think it’s the most versatile power supply on the market as each output delivers 600ma and they do a Y cable for the stomp to be able to combine two outputs and get to the 1000ma the stomp requires. Never had an issue with it in years of use.
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 4 күн бұрын
When are we getting a IMA & JG solo album? Or track at least?
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 4 күн бұрын
@@bassimprovjams3772 it’s in the works. Only thing holding it up is scheduling right now.
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 4 күн бұрын
@ awesome dude!!! Thanks for sharing this!!🤘🫡😎
@joconnorwi
@joconnorwi Ай бұрын
Thanks fellas!
@MrElnath
@MrElnath 8 ай бұрын
I didn't understand the function of the CALI76 compressor and whether it is connected upstream or downstream of Line 6, thanks
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 8 ай бұрын
It’s before the HX on Ian’s viewed. Stomp in the middle and capo at the end.
@dadolin01
@dadolin01 9 ай бұрын
(11:15 - 11:40) so awesome!
@eheveronsmith
@eheveronsmith 10 ай бұрын
How are either of you switching between your patches? Do you have the HX Stomp set to a mode where you’re switching between complete patches, or stompbox mode?
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
When I switch I use the main top knob. You could also set up the FS4/5 switcher that Ian and I both use to be patch up/patch down...
@LawrenceJenner
@LawrenceJenner 10 ай бұрын
What's the name of the helix 2 button extension Ian has mounted?
@alkis00
@alkis00 10 ай бұрын
helauxy duo mini
@BennyBoyZinz
@BennyBoyZinz 10 ай бұрын
Out of interest, what is the reason for using the capo if you’re not going to use the saturation circuits. Is it purely for eq reasons?
@simonmaes4570
@simonmaes4570 8 ай бұрын
Same question here. Are you using any of the stomps amp/ cab sims in conjunction with the gain/ saturation of the capo? Or using only the "fixed-gain clean preamp" option + eq in case the stomp is enabling amp/ cab sims? Can the capo saturation be used to juice up the stomps amp/ cab sims or is that just not working out? Thx for the feedback. Love the video, love the info you guys are sharing!
@Brakken99
@Brakken99 10 ай бұрын
The kinda alludes that this is a discussion of the bass version of the HX Stomp. Is there such a thing or is this actually the guitar version?
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
There is only one version of the Stomp, but plenty of both bass and guitar features inside it.
@Brakken99
@Brakken99 10 ай бұрын
Cool thanks Janek!
@the_sin_music
@the_sin_music 4 ай бұрын
Are all these patches also live-compatible? You know, the old "Your bedroom sound is not the same as live"
@ralf6300
@ralf6300 10 ай бұрын
You guys are legend! Thanks for that great episode. I still have a question: i am one of the dude who can not afford a Noble DI. And i am fancy to know where i can find it on the stomp (as i havent found it yet) and how would you use it? Regards R.
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
It's called the "Regal Bass DI" and it's under "distortion" I believe. You have to be updated to the latest firmware to see it.
@ralf6300
@ralf6300 10 ай бұрын
@@janekgwizdala thanks a lot. I'll check it out.
@skepticsinister
@skepticsinister 10 ай бұрын
Thank you both! Time stops in the pedal-sphere 👏
@DamienGalban
@DamienGalban 9 ай бұрын
I love this mini pedalboard. Has anyone a reference for it ?
@JETallacksen
@JETallacksen 8 ай бұрын
Ian, I'd love to hear your take on the bass part of the U2 and Johnny Cash collaboration, "The Wanderer."
@lumurumba
@lumurumba 10 ай бұрын
Is there any way to get that Bjork preset?
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
Get Ian’s HX stomp preset packs. Links are in the description.
@creepymccreepers
@creepymccreepers 5 ай бұрын
So many hx stomp videos right biw
@1234drums
@1234drums 9 ай бұрын
Cool insight ❤❤❤❤
@totallySafeUsername
@totallySafeUsername Ай бұрын
Who knew that Ian could beatbox?!?!
@simplethingies3423
@simplethingies3423 10 ай бұрын
I need to know more about the `Glasgow/ Rennie Mackintosh’ item in the background!?!
@casperbass68
@casperbass68 8 ай бұрын
Freakin bass heroes! Appreciate this
@dwells37
@dwells37 29 күн бұрын
6:35 I'm just imagining that sound on a fretless!
@Simbosan
@Simbosan 10 ай бұрын
Try a Rickenbacker into that trem reverb setup. Instant Twin Peaks
@LukasVlcek
@LukasVlcek 10 ай бұрын
You two should just go for a tour.
@MateuszJagocha
@MateuszJagocha 10 ай бұрын
I wanted to go for HX Stomp but its routing options are too limited. I want to have two outputs - one without cabsim for onstage amp, second for FOH, you could do it by stereo splitting audio paths and putting cabsim only on R but then i will loose paraller path for cool efects mixing. Im planning to go gt1000 core, which has more routing options suitable for my case.
@darkstar4494
@darkstar4494 9 ай бұрын
Stomp has that exact wiring option. You send the pre cabsim signal out through the fx send, into your on stage cab or whatever. Post cabsim to FOH
@MateuszJagocha
@MateuszJagocha 9 ай бұрын
@@darkstar4494 yeah but you need to split amp and cab blocks so it takes two blocks. FX send I think takes up additional block? And anyway I want to add external looper into FX loop
@darkstar4494
@darkstar4494 9 ай бұрын
@@MateuszJagocha splitting for fx send doesn’t take up a separate block, it goes between blocks. I don’t get the issue with anp + cab sim, if it takes 2 blocks that’s true no matter what right? Anyway you don’t want a hx so it’s moot.
@MateuszJagocha
@MateuszJagocha 9 ай бұрын
@@darkstar4494 I'm just trying to resolve all issues before deciding. And I see two, when I use FX send for cab split then I will loose FX loop for external effect. Second amp + cab takes 2 out of 8 slots so 6 are left it might be sometimes not enough?
@darkstar4494
@darkstar4494 9 ай бұрын
@@MateuszJagocha right, if you use fx send for cab split then you lose your fx loop. Although you could split that signal and send one copy to your looped fx and back into the stomp. Just curious, what would you use the stomp fx loop for? Instead of putting your other fx in front or behind stomp? Stomp has 6 slots for fx or amp / cab sim. You can use the 6 however you want, and split your fx send from any point.
@ombracle
@ombracle 10 ай бұрын
Faith in humanity restored ✨
@TarasPuzyr
@TarasPuzyr 2 ай бұрын
Guys, you're so cool!
@CC-hg9un
@CC-hg9un 24 күн бұрын
I want to know how it sounds in front of an actual amp in a live performance setting
@DannoDemo
@DannoDemo 10 ай бұрын
Wow, if Ian knew a good engineer to make an octive pedal that sounded like that and/or his echo-y reverb? I know for a FACT a number of us would buy them.
@lucastperez
@lucastperez 9 ай бұрын
How can I get one of those funk shirts??
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 9 ай бұрын
www.jazz.se/
@lucastperez
@lucastperez 9 ай бұрын
@@janekgwizdala you're a legend! Thanks 🙏
@piotrlipka-s5c
@piotrlipka-s5c 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how the HX is powered from DC7, if it requires 9V, 3A, and the power supply does not provide such A
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
Cioks make a custom HX Stomp splitter cable to use two outlets. The Stomp doesn’t need 3A, more like 1A.
@piotrlipka-s5c
@piotrlipka-s5c 10 ай бұрын
@@janekgwizdalaOk, thank you.
@Ee77Aa45
@Ee77Aa45 10 ай бұрын
What the sound of bulbarsuar pedal at the self😆😆
@JETallacksen
@JETallacksen 8 ай бұрын
Ian: "Get you a bass that can do both." probably.
@AJbassist
@AJbassist 10 ай бұрын
isnt this just a cut from your podcast young man ?
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Welcome to the internet I guess...? This is how you repurpose material for different audiences. Those who have the time to listen to a 97 minute discussion, and those who would like to see all the bits about the HX Stomp in one place.
@AJbassist
@AJbassist 10 ай бұрын
@@janekgwizdala thank you ,luv all ur content
@timaves1504
@timaves1504 5 ай бұрын
I REALLY want an HX Stomp, but they’re getting SO expensive these days, even used.
@rockandrollisyourmom
@rockandrollisyourmom Ай бұрын
Ian is a man among men
@thisisMRJAMES
@thisisMRJAMES 10 ай бұрын
I wish ableton made a multi fx pedal....
@jamesmelton7637
@jamesmelton7637 5 ай бұрын
I do not want to use the HX stomp for bass when I have no compression metering of any kind.
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 5 ай бұрын
@@jamesmelton7637 I understand compression monitoring is a nice feature, but you’re writing off thousands of effects based on one feature. Seems pretty drastic.
@soulfred
@soulfred 10 ай бұрын
Go!
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 10 ай бұрын
Didn't the guy with the glove just do this?
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
🤷‍♀️
@aristidescavalcante3516
@aristidescavalcante3516 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the content! It would be even better without the background music… 🙂
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 10 ай бұрын
🤷‍♀
@phatcatology
@phatcatology 9 ай бұрын
So, honestly, why can’t there be a pedal designed for bass player by bass players. Are bass player always going to work with products made specifically for guitar players. No offence to Line 6 or any other pedal makers . BAss player should have more than an honourable mention in a lot of these pedals.
@janekgwizdala
@janekgwizdala 8 ай бұрын
Don't think I'm not working on exactly that... I have some ideas that I'm shopping around to builders to see if we can get some bass-specific versions of pedals we all know and love.
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