Hybrid Drives As Fast As Possible

If you're trying to decide between a fast but expensive SSD, and a slower but cheaper and more spacious HDD, could hybrid drives be a good compromise?
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[@FoodOnCrack]

Good guy linus always ending the video with "speaking of"

[@ghostlyshiba8944]

Still to this day man

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

LMFAO

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

Hey man your PFP is familiar, who's that

[@bucket6160]

Who the hell is Hybrid and why is he driving so fast?

[@noobplayer_23]

A prius

[@burakyldrm654]

V6 hybrid F1 :)

[@therealAkito]

How a Linus is made as slow as possible

[@thesquarezminecraft]

that would be 6570+ hours length video

[@deadguy718]

+Agito When a mommy Linus and a daddy Linus love each other very much...

[@zyx218]

Are you asking for a LTT porno?

[@therealAkito]

+zyx precisely

[@lyrix7479]

+zyx he is asking for a Lttf and Lttm porn

[@jryzova5557]

"all that unfinished fanart" i feel personally attacked

[@muneerfaizal7997]

in my country there is a negligible difference in price between SSHD and ssd, a 2.5 inch Sata ssd is just $5 more than a Sata SSHD so it's better to choose ssd over this gimmicky SSHD

[@Xielent]

$120 for SSHD. 1TB with 32GB Flash For $90 you can get a 128GB SSD and 1TB 7200RPM.

[@FiNiTe_weeb]

I want 240GiG SSD :V

[@Xielent]

FiNiTe I still got 30GB on my ssd and 600 gb on my hdd. SSD is 128GB and HDD is 1TB

[@zackscriven1]

+JordanYT for $220 you can get a 1TB ssd :D

[@TheFan630]

+hebbocake Did you forget the major point of an SSHD in a laptop?

[@agentgreenland]

+JordanYT I have had nothing but bad experiences with SSHD drives.. They seemed soo slow even though after a good portion of time of use. I had a SSHD drive in my laptop, and I was so frustrated, that I bought a Samsung Evo 850 as soon as I could, as now using that SSHD as an external drive. I could be unlucky, that maybe I only have tried bad quality SSHD's though.. I can't remember the brand/model of my SSHD

[@ColonelGrim]

I upgraded my Ps4 with an SSHD. Way too good when loading into a match faster than anyone.

[@vwestlife]

Linus shows a NewEgg screenshot instead of NCIX... I guess he burned his bridges!

[@ApostKef]

VWestlife rip ncix

[@aoshi1992]

Ncix was closing already

[@E-virtuosEu]

VWestlife watches Linus?

[@zacksstuff]

Huh. That's new. "No Views."

[@jorionedwards]

Speedy Gonzalez? Is that you?

[@pneuma1387]

it takes time for youtube to process and verify the views

[@shetanshusingh6529]

@@jorionedwards + no

[@gooselord_prime]

once again Linus saves the day. I freaking love you dude you always have the exact video to explain exactly what I need to know. There's a sale on a 7200 rpm sshd on new egg right now and I was looking to upgrade anyway but wanted to know the deal before buying. Thank you for being awesome.

[@strkilla89]

I love the WD dualdrive for laptops. You get a 120 gig ssd and a 1 tb hdd. And you can set them up as two different drives in the OS. Plus it only takes up one 2.5 inch slot. I throw them in older laptops all the time, though they have recently gone up a lot in price, I suspect it's been discontinued

[@Aimela136]

Ah, the "Speaking of ________" segue. Truly, a classic.

[@auzzierocks]

I use both an ssd and mechanical drive in my laptop. simply remove the DVD drive and install a HDD caddy in its place. it's still sata 6 gigabit so no bottlenecks

[@thecocooreo]

+Mitchell Theobald right because the HDD is it's own bottleneck lol

[@shasterdhari]

That's...actually... I GOTTA GET MY LAPTOP RN! BRB!

[@shasterdhari]

That's...actually... I GOTTA GET MY LAPTOP RN! BRB!

[@haitianhendrix]

Wow

[@joeygreathouse3029]

@@thecocooreo Yet has faster transfer rate than SSD. Weird!

[@nictheperson6709]

I love it when as fast as possible videos are about speed related things. The titles are just so entertaining

[@Stupranos]

I'm still amazed how hard drive storage came in the last several years. I remember when 500GB was a lot. Then with game consoles all you needed was just a handful of MB for a memory card. Now just 1TB is what I feel is a fair amount for me at least.

[@michealadebz]

6 years later 500gb is still a lot.

[@hehotbros01]

​@@michealadebz i suppose maybe. I got 1tb in nvme storage for games os and programs. And 4tb for for pics movies documents and music, and theyre almost full

[@shasterdhari]

I'm using the WD Black^2. It's amazing. I got it for around $150 off a Newegg sale. I highly recommend because it has 128GB flash and 1TB HDD.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Great video. I have always loved the SSHD. It really is a great way to get great performance with larger capacity.

[@CamiloMorrice]

Can you do a comparison of an SSD on Sata I, Sata II, and Sata III

[@CamiloMorrice]

The Everyicated Gamer can you link me the video?

[@agentgreenland]

+Camilo Morrice Why on earth would you plug a SSD on a SATAI or II connection...?? :)

[@CamiloMorrice]

+Ilannguaq Kivioq if your motherboard does not support SataII or Sata III

[@agentgreenland]

Camilo Morrice You're joking, right?

[@CamiloMorrice]

+Ilannguaq Kivioq can't be that hard to understand can it. My motherboard only supports Sata I and Sata II. I would like to know how well an SSD would perform on all 3 Satas

[@TLV-ee1sg]

Spam as fast as posible.

[@bradval4119]

Did you just post the same comment? He already has a video on that.

[@TLV-ee1sg]

+Bradval411 spam as fast as possible

[@mixingof12]

+Ivan Cossio It's salted meat BOOM

[@jorionedwards]

Double tap! We are saying random crap, right?

[@rtv190]

+Ivan Cossio as fast as possible as fast as possible

[@Ttomisabeast1581967]

How to get a fucking gold star as fast as possible

[@stevenabbott7508]

Linus, remember when you made that video about how to partition the outside and faster part of an hdd platter separately from the slower inner portion. Is it possible to do the same thing with a hybrid drive and if so how?

[@Scoutboe]

I've had an SSD+SSHD combo for 3-ish years. Works like a charm

[@benjamenYTDeadTheGamer]

Still using the combo?

[@Scoutboe]

@@benjamenYTDeadTheGamer Funny you should ask. Yes I do :)

[@fulltiltdrift]

so this sound perfect for someone running a 1 drive system or a laptop with no expansion for storage. Not a bad compromise.

[@JohnnyCacheX]

Hybrid controllers like the Marvell HyperDuo are quite nice too. Just stick an old 256GB SSD on it and your huge 4TB HDD will be running like hell. Well, at least that few very important folders with your favorite games. The thing I like most about this solution is, that even when removing the SSD, the data on the HDD remains untouched. That's probably a lot better than SSHDs would handle an SDD failure.

[@SlayerOfHellWyrm]

No mention of the WD Black2 (squared)? It. Can fit in quite a few laptops, and is a dual.drive with a separate SSD and HDD in the same case. Granted, more expensive than buying both separately, but you're paying for the convenience.

[@SlayerOfHellWyrm]

+Simon WoodburyForget The WD Black Squared isn't an SSHD though. It's a 120GB SSD and 1 or 2TB HDD if I remember correctly. They show up as different drives, a d you cent even see the HDD until you install Windows on the SSD and can download a tool to turn it on.

[@kenyonb4449]

+SlayerOfHellWyrm just get an ssd and a seperate hdd like he said

[@SlayerOfHellWyrm]

+Joe Bob you missed the point... Some laptops don't have space for both, which is where the squared is aimed. I though I mentioned that already.

[@kenyonb4449]

SlayerOfHellWyrm oh I forgot about laptops

[@Omar-ru6ne]

why are there dislikes on every video on youtube? it's ridiculous! why would you dislike a video like this? its simply an informative video! don't like tech? why click on it?

[@razermasterrache3258]

IDK It's the internet dude

[@Floodbait_117]

Went to look for a vid on hybrid tech quicky did not disappoint

[@vitiok78]

Reminds me of ridiculous VHS/DVD combo players )))

[@leexgx]

Side note most sshds have 8gb (acutely all of them) not 32gb

[@Windows98R]

I forgot these things existed. Haven’t seen them in a while.

[@ChristinaKilgore]

In my PC I have a Kingston HyperX Predator 240GB for Windows files and other main functionality programs (unity, EVGA drivers, ect.), a Seagate 2TB SSHD for regular programs like chrome, word, ect., and a Seagate 2TB SSHD for games. Pretty good setup if you ask me >_>

[@rathinaveln5856]

You guys are doing your job simply amazing. Thumb's up to you guys.

[@tyrannicpuppy]

With flash memory sizes and prices of today, do you think some hybrid drives have any real place in the 20s? They could easily include a larger chunk of flash memory with some of the chunkier HDD sizes while remaining affordable. Or is there just no point anymore with the affordability of higher capacity SSDs?

[@Morbpious]

No point anymore

[@austinsandel2937]

rendering how it works and why it is needed as fast as possible

[@samdeepak]

Clearly articulated, concise and to the point. Well explained! 👍

[@gimmie55]

what about the wd black2 it has both an ssd and hdd but it is not that cheap

[@Magusslettewestberg]

+gimmie55 Its not SSHD it just 2 in 1

[@gimmie55]

Boffifis1 i know! i never said it was but for the purpose of a sshd in a laptop it fits the purpose better

[@johnmorrison4224]

Thanks, I know this is dated, but you answered the question perfectly!

[@NutmegTechnologiesSouthWindsor]

Well made video. Thanks, Techquickie!

[@benc1449]

nice video they are getting better

[@shawnramtahalsingh3310]

I love this guy. Mr. Linus I am learning soooooooo much from you guys man I'm glad you're all here to give me great options of my interest because I was wondering about this topic a lot but I had already made up my mind to get a sshd and maybe even an ssd also in my build. Anyway ty again

[@vascofg]

When I suggested this video maybe 1+ years ago, it made sense. Now, with the SSD prices so low and getting even cheaper, I feel these kinds of drive aren't really a necessity.

[@hussainalqadhi1198]

Update: After 200 series intel motherboards: best option is to pair Intel Optane with a 1 TB mechanical @7200 rpm. It is way cheaper than 1tb ssd and faster.

[@sharks445]

it's not really "learning" it's just performing statistical analysis on what data segments are read and written more frequently

[@ultraali453]

Nice video, thank you for uploading

[@dijiplexgaming2631]

I have a techquickie idea: multiplayer game servers as fast as possible

[@twoscoops5197]

I love your videos. Detailed and concise. Perfect! :)

[@initfromScratch]

I want one of these now

[@goku64100]

The trick to having your cake and eating it too is having two cakes

[@davidbolha]

And twice the size stomach. 😆😅

[@RedFenceAnime]

If you have a laptop (with a cd drive) you can just get a drive "caddy". It's a slide that can house a 2,5" drive and replaces your cd reader.

[@OnionRingsGaming]

I think sticking with a pair would be better, grab a small SSD for boot stuffs and a massive HDD for storing. It's what I'm gonna do.

[@kvbk]

It's too late But I'm having 1tb sshd firecuda 5400rpm that's came with my laptop That's the same thing your are talking about right ?

[@xWood4000]

Thank you for this video!

[@GuvernorDave]

so if i wanted a hybrid drive to launch a particular game super fast i'd have to "train" it by running that application a few times? And it'd forget if I ran a different game a few times? Sorry ...my storage solutions trying to be "smart" and ultimately "cache-ing" certain files to the flash memory sounds fucking stupid. Hybrid drives might be good for office documents but they SOUND utterly garbage for anything else.

[@Slenderman63323]

Yep. And they are EXPENSIVE. A decent 1TB SSHD will set you back around 80-90 bucks as of late, while you can get a 1TB HDD and a 120GB SSD for around the same price. You can "cache" the data yourself, score some extra storage, have a backup drive and killer durability, since you use the SSD for a few large files with fast reads and the HDD for smaller files which you don't read as much, and constantly write new files.

[@The0Advent]

no mention of the western digital black2 dual drive? its a full fledged SSD and HDD in a single 2.5" form factor. i had one for awhile it was amazing. i just wish western digital had upgraded it with a 256GB ssd and 2TB BLACK edition HDD.

[@MrVecheater]

Do they always aim to use the full SSD capacity? And if yes, wouldn't that make them wear out faster and use up more energy?

[@Theunihornable]

Bought a 1TB NVME for a hundred bucks... SSD's are much cheaper nowadays that I don't think SSHD's are a point of use anymore

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

I feel like the green screen is too brightly illuminated, and the glow makes Linus look like he has jaundice. Anyone else see this, or is my monitor going bad?

[@justassimple8328]

For some reason I call it Solid State Hard Disk or Solid State Hard Drive

[@alexklusa7200]

0:00 did he just quote the unabombers manifesto??? "You can't eat your cake and have it too". I mean he didn't say it exactly but it was close. That was too damn close.

[@jerped95]

Have you guys looked at the Western Digital Black² ? it's 120gb SSD and 1tb HDD. It a pretty good compromise that has both drives in the same 2.5inch. enclosure. The storage controller makes windows think there is two partitions, one 120gb and one 1tb. You should check it out!

[@BenLJackson]

With a normal laptop you should replace your DVD drive with a HDD bay, for extra storage, and your stock drive with an SSD.

[@DigitalMoonlight]

Whatever happened to the WD Black squared? That drive was neat

[@SA77888]

I like the idea of a hybrid and an SSD...............so just like the typical HDD / SSD combo, but a bit faster.

[@denvera1g1]

There is actually at least one hybrid drive on the market where the SSD and HDD are viewed seperately, though to use it you must install windows first on the SSD, install the drivers, and then activate the HDD, you end up with a 128GB SSD, and a 1TB HDD in a single 2.5 inch drive, i just wish they would have offered it in a 256+2TB option, because both of them filled up fast on my laptop

[@denvera1g1]

the WD Black 2(squared)

[@tylerdoop]

Dang boi. I see those gains. keep it up. proud of you.

[@justingarrovillas4353]

Got an ad for a Netflix series about "hybrids"

[@MsSBVideos]

Thank you! This sounds great for my computer build I'm working on!

[@merry1694]

there's not much difference

[@RoboMuskVsLizardZuckerberg]

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[@shimtest]

i didn't even know these existed, nice

[@kirbyfan64128]

2:30 Plash Storage :D

[@Orvis25]

@Techquickie With a SSHD, how does this work when you "format" a drive? Does the flash part also get wiped and it "re-learns" what should go on it?

[@TommyT_]

I'm pretty happy with the hybrid in my laptop. It will do for me till really fast SSD's are about £100 for 1TB

[@shadowhunter0]

yeah same here

[@SurvivalGames1]

lets go guys...its time

[@GeekTherapyRadio]

If anybody reading this has a laptop with a DVD drive, you can use that bay for a storage drive. So you can have an SSD as the main drive (120GB is $40 now...) and a 1TB hard drive ($50) in the optical bay using a caddy ($10-20 Amazon). But yes, if you only have 1 drive bay, an SSHD is a good option. They cost about $100. You can get 480GB SSDs for $110 now. 240GB for $60. (Microcenter)

[@althds7099]

im learning so much

[@scott2100]

I'm using a SSHD for my boot and regular use and a big 5tb for my game library, I do wish my hybrid drive had a bit more flash storage though

[@psychoPORKCHOP]

Linus please make a side by side comparison of hdd sdd and hybrid

[@rathinaveln5856]

You guys are of doing your job simply amazing. Thump's up to you guys.

[@NovaDragon]

180GB SSD and 1TB SSHD in my build, SSD for windows SSD for the rest and It holds my data when i have to re-install windows (when it breaks itself)

[@tahep3906]

thank for the perfect explanation on hybrid hdd, thanks...

[@calebhearn1526]

Seagate has a 2TB Firecuda on Amazon right now for $69.99

[@aggyz2198]

Nice

[@billyashworth3944]

There's a thought: what if the drive had an 'x' sized solid state cache rather than storage? The two could work together (firmware permitting) almost like a RAID pair. Faster speeds, larger storage, and cheaper prices wthis more solution. Then better speeds can be achieved quicker than the SSHD's learned space assignment. The solid state memory component would work almost like RAM in such a case.

[@BioToxin]

but linus you forgot duo drives, that allow you to access the ssd and hdd separately, they're still hybrids and better yet they don't limit themselves to a single 8gb nand chip like most sshd they have full 120gb+ ssd size and another 1+tb of hdd storage

[@TA_Naomi]

I use an SSD for my OS and critical programs, a SSHD for my games and other programs, and a HDD for misc files and stuff.

[@Superchad245]

Wondering why we don't make large 6TB and 8TB SSHDs with 128GB to 256GB flash, so we can have a large capacity drive for a steam library or movies, that speeds up frequently accessed games/movies

[@GrumpyMansREVIEWS]

What's good for video editing on a laptop? I mean do you need more ram etc? Sorry if it's a stupid question not to good with technology.

[@boytheodore]

I would like to know the difference between various types of solid-state hard drive and their architecture difference (maybe?)

[@ray73864]

buy an SSD, buy a HDD, install Drive Bender or Drive Pool, make a single pool out of both, then tell the system what should go where :) Also includes duplication for backing up, and the ability to add more drives to the pool on the fly :)

[@flos3328]

Maybe you could review one/benchmark a SSHD. It would be quite interesting how the firmware handles data and what the speeds may be over time.

[@RizLazey]

How as fast as possible video is made as fast as possible

[@akshaypersad]

Harddrive types, physical sizes and interfaces as fast as possible? As much as I try to research them...I haven't been able to learn the sizes in laptops and desktops (14mm, 12mm, 2.5 inch?) and actual ports (SATA, mSATA?), probably bc I don't know what to search. Sorry if I'm sounding dumb here

[@bennyuoppd33]

In my experience, most of the time drives come in one of two sizes; 2.5in for laptop HDDs and regular sAta SDDs, 3.5in for regular desktop HDDs, M.2 which are kinda both a size and a connector and the fastest SSDs tend to be PCI-e based. As for 2.5/3.5in connectors they tend to use the same regular sAta data and power cables. Hope my text isn't too confusing.

[@TheRhinoking27]

The WD black^2 beats an SSHD when it comes to laptop storage. 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD showing up as 2 drives in one drive bay is cool. It even doesnt automatically add files to the memory, you have the freedom to add what programs or files u want to the drives. (besides the OS that gets put on the SSD)

[@nO_d3N1AL]

250 GB SSDs aren't that expensive now, and that's plenty of storage for my needs (and I presume many other people's). It's just about managing the space wisely, using utilities like WizTree and CCleaner to get rid of crap you don't need and not having everything installed at once that you aren't using. Also storing data in the cloud and downloading when needed (e.g. OneDrive) is a better solution. You'd have to kill me to go back to a hard drive or even a hybrid drive. HDDs may as well stop production, and the only reason computer manufacturers include 1TB HDDs instead of SSDs are because they wanna fool people into thinking more storage is better.

[@blaze556922]

I'm so confused. Is a SSHD different than a hybrid? The video isn't confusing but the comments people are leaving are.

[@TheBrokeHam]

I recently bought a laptop that didn't have a standalone hybrid drive but rather had a 1tb mechanical (5400 rpm nonetheless) and a 16 gb caches m.2 ssd. The laptop was so slow it's like i was back in the days of AOL. opening windows explorer would take sometimes more than 2 minutes. I dropped the extra money and got a samsung 850 pro 500GB ssd and thats the best choice i ever made.

[@glitchy.a]

Good thing i have an M.2 slot in my laptop :D

[@dreamingchild1984]

Thanks for all the episodes, personal small request, could you explain a bit about Fusion Drive working mechanism on Mac? For example, if one part fails, what kind of files you could retrieve? Thanks!

[@legitscoper3259]

I always thought, the Flash only is for Reading / Writing *cache* and Filesystem and memory allocation

[@Layarion]

wait did the Cards on the right always pop out at the end or does the author need to do something for them to do that?

[@dougsellers6678]

Can you do a video on why the RAM state can't be saved to the storage on shutdown and reloaded when the computer boots again? Especially if you can temporarily allocate ram as system storage.

[@absoluterainbow]

How about flash method? a.k.a. dumping flash memory into the disk?