MY NEW FAVORITE USA STEAMER IN DERAIL VALLEY!

In this video, we get to check out an early look at the JUST RELEASED brand new Pennsylvania Railroad F3 2-6-0 mogul, made by our buddy GregTame! You need custom car loader for this mod to work. Apologies in advance on the video quality, my video encoder hated me this week.
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[@greggorytame6672]

You know it's gonna be a fun video when Smells Like Kenosha starts playing again while you're still examining your wreck ;p so a couple of notes on the loco: I did take careful care to balance the steam generation and usage. The class 89 and 86 both felt very.. 'easy mode'. so with this the goal was to be a pretty strong engine so long as you're on top of your fire and bar usage. also, yeah. sadly the knuckle couplers don't like tendered locomotives. Ziebach is aware but I'm not 100% sure we're going to get a fix soon. The cab is, as I'm sure you noticed. very 'not pennsy'. this is my bad, I didn't have good access to reference so I sort of just... yoinked the designs from DT&I #16 and #45, because they were both built by baldwin around the same time. I'm heading out to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in the spring to take some proper pics

[@Hyce777]

It's still a fantastic mod, very well done, and put a great big smile on my face. Cheers to you, Greg!

[@creepermaster6193]

Nice to see finally see some AMERICAN FREEDOM trains cause the explosions for once

[@jamesTBurke]

I think hyces only real complaint was the brass disk. And brakes apparently

[@TheRoadburner99]

Hey Greg great job on the mod and I was wondering if you could make a 4 8 8 2 cab forward steam locomotive for derail valley?

[@greggorytame6672]

@@TheRoadburner99 I would love to do larger articulated locomotives, but derail valley doesn't support it

[@seymoarsalvage]

The "ES&D 6 chime" is now immortalized lol Thats so awesome!

[@justat1149]

The mod creators over on DV are all absolute legends. All of them making some truly fantastic stuff, and I absolutely love the little easter eggs they’ve thrown in for you Hyce. It means you’ve made a good impression on them. They’re all legends

[@Bonderoev]

Hyce going; "Oh I've had it.. Oh..." and the loco then promptly derailing is definitely a top Kenosha moment. XD

[@Cold801]

Oh god, Smells like Kenosha just fading back into itself is amazing.

[@xenowreborn]

5:35 Hyce: A Very familiar Big 6 Chime whistle I still remember that Video! it was great fun to be part of the Premiere of that (the derail Valley stream afterwards was also Great fun)

[@Hyce777]

you were there, all those years ago!

[@rusty_gold_garage7138]

Another awesome DV video. Seeing the wrecked train laying in the river at the bottom of the ravine at 16:35 was definitely a sign of whats to come.

[@Ronald.Golleher]

Nice catch! Definitely didn't see that before seeing your comment.

[@Clovr4]

The Santa grande 6 chime will live forever!!!

[@brillbusbootcamp2320]

That’s so neat to see the PRR F-class get some love, you almost never see them, yet they’re a very handsome engine. And as much as the Pennsy deserves to be teased for not being nearly so “standard,” many of those parts could easily be re-used to easily make so many other small PRR locomotive classes. What an awesome mod!

[@adamrosenhamer3762]

2:00 welcome to PA. Glad to have you.

[@crazyjack3357]

For some reason I was expecting you to spawn the DE6 to chase the bois down long head forwards Plus love the "this is fine" with smells like Kenosha playing in the background

[@Railman1225]

24:55 *_YES, YOU SHOULD!_* It's also just really cool having the cars actually equipped with handbrakes(gives it more of that realism/American homey feel).

[@billyrueckert5113]

Locomotive says "I TAKE A NAP HERE"

[@kevino6618]

Pennsy operations manager: Someone ring the ES&D and see if we can get back that mogul we loaned to them. ES&D crew: Uhhhhh... whaaaat mogul?

[@drewbarker8504]

Regardless of the weird cab setup, the F3 was such an awesome locomotive to see carrying the American torch. (Plus it folds up with its tender so rapidly it’s like they designed it to be an emergency survival tent 🤣)

[@standardindian]

I think you might have fixed filesize or fixed bitrate or constant bitrate or something like that configured somewhere in your Video processing workflow, maybe in OBS or maybe if you are using any tool to re-encode your videos. Why I say that is whenever the camera stops moving the video quality shoots back up immediately. That would be as there is less data when the camera is stable so it's much easier for the encoder to maintain the given limits. You should really have it set to variable bitrate or variable filesize.

[@munkeyman6669]

Hyce is taking derail valleys new environmentally friendly delivery services to whole new heights. Would love to see a mod for an auusie loco known as heavy Harry. Just a teeny tiny H class 4-8-4.

[@TrainBandit]

It looks great. Love the fact that the whistle is modeled after your whistle. Also it’s priceless that you welcome it to your railroad by hauling explosives. The double fire box door looks wired lol. If anyone makes more skins for this loco, they should put give it extra Beens on above the doors

[@TrainsAreReallyCool]

We gotta get an E6 and a K4 next, or maybe even the strong boi, an I1sa! Also, they need to add a proper Pennsy 3 chime or Banshee to go along with them!

[@cjstrader8171]

You can find those three chimes on Nexus mods

[@patricksheary2219]

Great fun Mark, beautiful loco too! Kudos to Greg. I look forward to your 101 video about the Stephenson valve gear. Fab to see your whistle immortalized and will love to hear once installed, the original sound of which (I heard from your video) is amazing! Thanks again.

[@benjaminmelikant3460]

I also installed this today and dang is it pretty. Controlling it with the mouse is kinda hellish though lol. Very fun loco to drive!

[@alwaysbearded1]

A cool rainy Saturday for me. So what am I doing? Folding laundry watching this. You keep managing the engine and checking the coal as you learn the engine and it reminds me to glance at my wood stove and check the fire there from time to time. A good morning. Like that you, or rather all of us are getting US engines to see as well as all the other equipment.

[@GretchenDawntreader]

that thumbnail and the opening scene of the video tell me "Yep, it's Hyce!"

[@GretchenDawntreader]

you really take the whole derail part to heart :)

[@Mizzinno]

Man the F class is such an under represented group. Interestingly the firebox door is almost exactly the same as the one we have on 643.

[@automotiveman13]

Your reaction to seeing your 6 chime modeled in this game had me wheezing.🤣🤣 Very cool of the developer to do that.

[@CommercialsandMiscellaneous]

28:39 Loco and tender go C H O M P

[@flamedude_1111]

pennsy supremacy

[@tylersrailfanningandgaming8168]

Y E S

[@bonnievedenhoupt2705]

YES SIR

[@CaptainCrutch]

Banjo signals, tracks numbered wrong, it’s amazing they can do 20mph on this shit. These pigtail motherfuckers have no business being out here! THEY WRECKED THE CENTRAL!

[@jasper2185]

Y E S

[@NorfolkSouthern1066]

Y E S S I R

[@KZ1993]

I hope the F3 gets another run. I'm impressed it was maintaining some boiler pressure and climbing a grade with the brakes dumped the whole time. It'll be neat to see it run without the drag.

[@cavemonkey7634]

It amazes me that the Modding community for this game has more enthusiasm for the game than the developers themselves.

[@0ptera]

22:45 heard that music, remembered how spicy that junction is and knew you'd pee in a cup. What I failed to imagine is how much badly you managed to bottle it.

[@YourLocalRailfan]

0:08 “nice”

[@tiam4152]

as soon as i saw that whistle, i smiled, i knew instantly that was modeled after your whistle my dude!!

[@xianderthest8014]

This is great, we really need more locos in this game and it is always amazing when the mod creators come out with new stuff!

[@professorfunpancake9454]

Hyce you can also lean into the engine to see the internals of the loco a bit better with this model. Discovered it by accident. Just press Q or E when on either side of the deck.

[@pootmahgoots8482]

"Why does it have two fire doors?!" MOAR SPEEEEED

[@redtoadengineering9226]

MOAR MOAR SPEEEEEEEEEEED!

[@willsen8908]

MOAR MOAR MOAR SPEED

[@hadinossanosam4459]

See, a steam engine turns coal into speed. So if you want MOAR SPEED, you need MOAD COAL! *give the fireman a second shovel*

[@NorfolkSouthern1066]

SPED POWAR BAENZ

[@gabeevers8281]

Hyce: my brake pipe doesn't seem to be pressurized. Things will probably get interesting Me: I feel like I recognize the song playing right now

[@foraminuteforaminute4056]

The good news is now I don't feel so self-conscious about my tendency to murder the boiler pressure myself, seeing as a professional engineer has done likewise.

[@BeefTechnology]

The cab looks like a hybrid between 491's cab and 20 and 346's cabs

[@NorfolkSouthern1066]

DON'T GIVE DEVAINART IDEAS!

[@kittty2005]

OMG...OMG, I love you Hyce you know without knowing how to start my day your vocalizations(screams,etc.) when you get squished by things on line, and accidently( yeah rite) blowing things up with the explody bois, I laughed repeatedly big belly laughs. I had a friend like you when I was young(19) he could make me laugh so hard, I miss him, found out he passed away some years back, tried to find him on FB, does not exist ,but you do and you're doing a great job.

[@Hyce777]

Glad I'm able to give ya a laugh with my stupidity :)

[@kittty2005]

@@Hyce777 You're not stupid.

[@kittty2005]

Well I found a page on Old #6 by Alco, I was 8 and not 4 on it's last trip, It weighed 117,000 Pounds 107,000 was on the 55 inch drivers. It had 18 by 24 inch cylinders, and operated at a boiler pressure of 180 P.S.I. for a tractive effort of 21,630 pounds. It was built in 1909 and burned coal. There I revised the record here, As I remember it had a throaty 5 or 6 chime whistle, there was harmony, it sounded good, that I remember correctly as sour notes made me sick. This engine wasn't as good as your F3 but it founded my dream, I'm 6'5 its quite a bit taller than me. Like I said before you're not stupid untill you really do get squished.

[@fluxthelycanroc9603]

Y'know if I knew how to model I might give s&a 750 a go. Love the little ballerina

[@NorfolkSouthern1066]

Now we need a 4-4-2 Atlantic XD "For when you got places to be... And you don't wanna pull that much."

[@Mike_Squires]

Two things about the Pennsylvania railroad. Them claiming to be the "standard railroad of the world" is the same energy as Lionel Claiming "Standard gauge" when they literally invented that track gauge. And "Standard railroad of the world" is more correctly described as "standard railroad of their delusions"

[@Idaho-Cowboy]

I love that the second loco ran away to keep you from blowing it up!

[@daesmith3274]

Heard the vw/chevy stories with Kan. In high-school I had a 94 honda accord, 4cyl, manual for a few years. Short story I love burnouts and in 3yrs I cooked 8 pairs(2) of front tires off it. I was also rewarded with about half dozen broke cv axels.

[@khromex7444]

Hyce: The model is amazing. DV: Uno Reverse the brakes

[@crystalrock18]

I could be wrong, but I think the Central RR of NJ’s camel back steam locomotives had two fire box doors. Not on all of their types, but I’m almost certain they did. Why I have no clue. All I can say on behalf of all of from the east is this; we do stuff that makes zero sense. That’s where I’m originally from Hyce, but MO is home now.

[@ashleydorsey2538]

Runaway explosive cars doing 60mph is truly unstoppable moment

[@VintageJunior]

Just a wild guess without looking it up: maybe the double firedoor would be for when the engineer does double duties, like during shunting or smth? Either way, amazing model!

[@trainman5513]

More likely to better spread the coal out across the whole firebox area. You don’t want to dump all the coal you throw in the firebox all in one area, you want to spread it out evenly across the whole surface, so to better reach the left and right edges of the firebox because it’s Belpair is probably why it has two doors. No railroad would willingly pay for two firemen per train.

[@VintageJunior]

@@trainman5513 That certainly makes sense! I suppose two firedoors would make more sense than one oversized one for that purpose.

[@0ptera]

One thing I instantly miss from BR 86 and BR 89 is the coal gauge.

[@greggorytame6672]

Katycat is working on a custom firebox API so they're not needed

[@real77games80]

I absolutely love these videos 🤣🤣🤣 The "AHHH" After being crushed by the tender was hilarious omllll, 😂 🤣

[@bear470]

Yooooo that's awesome that he put your whistle in the game! Lol such a cool detail

[@redtoadengineering9226]

Hi

[@TheContinuousRail]

26:42 Man timed the wheeze with the explosion

[@creepermaster6193]

Welp...at least you can say you got the bois there. No one said they had to stay there. I'd say mission accomplished.

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

The one American locomotive I'd like to see in DV is most certainly the USATC S160. The only other engine is an NKP Pacific. ...ok mayb PRR I1, L1 or M1 European brake systems > American brake systems

[@scottfw7169]

While talking about designing PRR nineteen-teens small steam, when/if your designer friend does the E6s 4-4-2, Atlantic, have them read caption on page 127 of Alvin F. Staufer's 1962 book Pennsy Power and design that little quirk in to the locomotive's behavior. Quote: "Bud Lothar got this quote from an E6s engineer, 'nicest hand fired engines ever built. Speed Queens rode beautifully but at 75 m.p.h. started a 'tipsy' side motion that many times scared crews, as they felt top heavy. Once up to 80 m.p.h. they settled back down and could keep right on climbing with no effort or effect on riding quality. They were very easy on coal and water and were the pacesetters for timetable operations. ' " How cool is that, "It's behaving badly! What do I do? 😲 Go faster, that'll fix it!" 😁 And from what I've read in various places through the decades, it wasn't really determined how Fast those little 4-4-2 locos _Could_ go, 100? Yep. 110? Yep. 120? Likely. 125? Likely.

[@alexbowser4778]

The pennsy had 2 fire doors because they didn’t adopt stokers widely until the late 30s, and they often used multiple firemen on some occasions. Even some k4’s have them

[@flyingbeep]

That 6-chime is a real sweet Easter egg by Greg :))

[@slanderedstone]

Derail Valley never fails to always produce amazing wrecks lol

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

Is that the Huber 6 chime? Oh the topping of the cake is awesome!

[@Timken1111]

The legends say he’s destroying the Pennsylvania railroad engines

[@Railman1225]

As for the difficulties trying to view the valve gear, don't worry Hyce! Altfuture is planning on adding more camera functions in the Simulator update, including an external camera! P.S.: Maybe it'd be a good idea to add Cutoff back to the HUD...

[@corbettbalcaitis]

Hyce "get that wide open" Me, noticing the intro to 'smells like kenosha': NOT WIDE OPEN! CLOSE IT, GO SLOWWWW!

[@Yorie1234]

25:37 you see, when an engine and a tender love eachother very much...

[@genislebastard3491]

I saw the Welds on the whistle and I knew what it was.🤣

[@thatlittlefox.]

Next thing we need in this game is the 491. Edit:youtube decided to destroy the video resolution on some parts of the video.

[@0ptera]

For once the culprit wasn't KZbin but Hyce's OBS.

[@Morphior]

491 is narrow gauge though.

[@travis5376]

@@Morphior k27 standard guage conversion

[@cowcatcherstudios5759]

@@travis5376 K-37*

[@Rio_Grande_Foamer]

"Pennsylvania Railroad turrets are weird" Correction - Pennsylvania Railroad is weird.

[@NorthmassRails]

Runaway explody bois going 90, with a locomotive bent to a V. This Hyce for ya!😂🤘 Edit: 28:38 25:37 28:53 best ever!

[@sitharc]

For normal railroads this would be awful, but for Hyce and the ES&D... just a normal day that ends in y.

[@BandanRRChannel]

That is an awesome looking engine! Too bad the spawning doesn't quite work out. Also, that moment when Kenosha starts playing...right after it finished. Unstoppable, indeed!

[@ericbonanno5214]

"Hi everyone this is Hyce. And today we'll be running a train without an engine and kick flipping a locomotive here on the ES&D." 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Hitperson]

oof, the bitrate bringing back the good old classic utub vibes

[@doggy_boo3475]

Very impressive. Can't wait for Simulator to get into DV myself!

[@DavG_NZ]

Very nice looking steam loco, good work to the guy made it. 👍 and lmao those physics when spawning it close together. Also were there any somewhat famed companies with blue coloured steam locomotives? and are there DV mods of said locos? Cause when I one day play the game I'd love to be able to have a blue loco, but would prefer it be a real company livery (if it exists) over a custom one.

[@trainanimator8150]

when hyce moves around it goes from 1080p60 to 144p

[@julianholcroft9625]

God I love the look of it the no buffers is the best especially with the coupler mod. Now I actually do need to make a buffer delete mod. Hope it works in vr or will. Also multiplayer so you can have an actual fire man would be amazing. There is a mod for it but I am sure it would murder my gpu as it simulates for both client and server user.

[@Rekuzan]

I didn't know you needed a pilot's license to drive a train!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@SunnySelena420]

The only thing we can hope for next is a Pennsylvania K4 to make some real highspeed passenger runs

[@techno1561]

Now all we need is a loco that is just a motorised explodey boi. So you can trundle down from the shipyard to Food factory and town to your heart's content, with not even a loco in sight. 27:43 MoT is going to be extremely confused about why there's a locomotive sticking its backside 45 degrees in the air, propped up by its tender. 28:40 Never mind the loco having barely any cab, now the loco has *no* cab. The coal dumps itself right into the fire, no engineer needed! That said, if the brakes were dumped the whole time, wouldn't the boys be braking the whole way? Derail valley doesn't simulate brake wear, so you'd expect them to come to a stop when the loco came off.

[@Hyce777]

Nah, so if it was dumped they never charged, so no brakes. Which is accurate

[@Dracopendragon013]

Hey Hyce, just started playing derail valley and i recently made a crazy run that i think even you would think it's funny, it was 15 car, 2 job logistical haul going from food factory to the harbor going thru the steel mill and south forest using the bottom route with a single DE2 as power.

[@CobetcknnKolowski]

Explode Bois to the food factory? Must be taco bell ingredients!

[@NORTH_WESTERN]

28:39 LOL IM.DEAD

[@the_guy_without_a_creative1808]

"might get interesting" *smells like Kenosha intensifies*

[@steveo7006]

That's your whistle! You're famous.🤣

[@realcanadian67]

That locomotive wanted no play in your attempt to stop the explody bois

[@victoriamaynard722]

the reason with the two fire doors is apparently so that the fireman, could be more accurate with shoveling coal

[@VideoCyberspace]

Should have spawned the Super 86 xD.

[@300poundbassman]

Had a pee cup moment I laughed so hard. Nice 🚂 🚂🚂 choo choo thank you Hyce that do good

[@raymondchason2877]

explosions explosions explosions glad you don't wreck the steamers in real life hyce

[@vulduv]

2:50 gotta love some Miles per *per* hour. The more pers, the faster the train. :P And according to Hyce, we also have some "kilo per hour". Kilos of what? I have no clue! :P (Latter is not really a mistake in speech. But some people write kph. Which is just straight up wrong. Technically, mph is also wrong... it should be m/h. But eh...)

[@broeretop1]

Hey Hyce! Have you seen the video uploaded by Tom Ingall about the Tornado trying to reach 100mph? I am an absolute steam noob, but am fascinated by the technology. I really enjoyed the video and thought you might too!

[@twkolejofil]

Wow, it even has no buffers!

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

That looks like an F3c class 2-6-0 from the Pennsylvania Railroad.

[@MrNeterix]

I knew it right away when I saw hyce's whistle on there 🤣

[@Rekuzan]

I know it's kind of off the subject, but I was curious about how historically accurate 'Back to the Future III' was. Granted, the whole time travel thing is pure hollywood, but what about the train part? Based on the engine they were using, and the Hydro-carbon rich fuel the Doc had made, would it have been possible to get that thing up to 90 MPH?

[@matthias18]

Never thought about it but now you are asking the real questions

[@Hyce777]

Not at all... lol

[@Dan_Gyros]

One day Hyce will successfully run cars in DV today is not that day... but one day!

[@jasonpeace91]

I think I just witnessed roughly 20 minutes of Hyce driving a steam locomotive in derail valley in a sane manner Hyce you feeling ok?

[@sirwilliam677]

I love the ES&D 6 chime

[@peregrina7701]

Not a gamer (Tetris is as far as I ever got) but the pyrometer gauge had me laughing! Is that based on something that really appeared on steam engines? Also pretty sick that the six-chime is in game :)

[@cemmy410]

A pyrometer is a real thing, yeah. Wikipedia has an article on them

[@nw611J]

Oh man that engine is cool Mark I enjoyed the part where you derailed and the boys did there thing lol. Hey I was wondering are there any color pictures of the K35 or K37 with green boilers and if so do they look like the standered gauge engines that also had green jackets? Thanks man keep it the good work and I look forward to seeing more videos Jeff aka NW611J.

[@greggorytame6672]

speaking of, this locomotive is every so slightly green ;p

[@nw611J]

@@greggorytame6672 that’s right DGLE or Brunswick green was a PRR thing if I’m not mistaken it looks really good by the way. What’s with the two firebox doors just wondering?

[@Hyce777]

There are pictures around! If you particularly search for pictures shared on the ngdiscussion.net forum with green boilers, you ought to find some.

[@nw611J]

@@Hyce777 ok thanks Mark what color are the K36s at the C&TS or dose it vary locomotive to locomotive? Thanks man look forward to see more videos from the CRRM soon and more pee cup moments. Jeff aka NW611J.

[@trainslayer1159]

you hear hyce playing music: 😎 its smells like kenosha: 😨