HYDRAULIC GEAR PUMPS EXPLAINED!

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AvE

AvE

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@Kevin-rc5ec
@Kevin-rc5ec 8 жыл бұрын
Dear AvE, your videos have kept me interested in engineering and thus lead me to my degree. You are just the best. Thanks for putting all the work you do into these videos, man!
@notsure7060
@notsure7060 3 жыл бұрын
Good work m8. Gratz on your degree =D
@MuffinManUSN
@MuffinManUSN 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers to that. Very cool you found that inspiration
@flyingjeep911
@flyingjeep911 2 жыл бұрын
Same story with me but ima machinist 🙃
@MichaelSteeves
@MichaelSteeves 8 жыл бұрын
11/16 wrench on a metric bolt. Never change AvE...
@scarface3131983
@scarface3131983 8 жыл бұрын
ha..it is a crapsman wrench tho
@sthenzel
@sthenzel 8 жыл бұрын
Just 0.46mm too large, doesn´t matter that much on 12.9 bolts, they´re hard stuff. If the Crapsman dies on it, who cares?
@duramax78
@duramax78 8 жыл бұрын
Wasn't a wrench it's a torque device....lol
@XC2long4u
@XC2long4u 8 жыл бұрын
I use 3/4 for 19mm and 5/8 for 16 all the time, call me a rebel.
@Scofflaw_k10
@Scofflaw_k10 8 жыл бұрын
it's 11/16 of the proper torque
@StealthPlatypus1
@StealthPlatypus1 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these kind of videos. Nothing beats the hands on explaining. Please keep these up!
@coreyregier5546
@coreyregier5546 8 жыл бұрын
I'm in first year HET and we just started taking little hydraulic pumps apart last week to measure the displacement and whatever, good timing for this video! Also, I think that's cool that you can flip the input shaft around in case your pump needs to be driven the other way.
@mehmetalikocak3843
@mehmetalikocak3843 8 ай бұрын
Aliminyum , ana gövdeyi ters cevirmesi gerekir , yön degişikligi için
@srednadahlberg
@srednadahlberg 8 жыл бұрын
Impeccable explanation! And I love how you stress the flow/pressure distinction.
@doibing9856
@doibing9856 6 жыл бұрын
I've never even considered engineering until i came across your channel a couple years ago. Glad you can share joy of machining with us common folk.
@fergusoddjob
@fergusoddjob 3 жыл бұрын
Got a university report on gear pumps and was getting bored of my tutors long winded vijeos without any swearing. Glad I remembered you made a video on these!
@petermof
@petermof 8 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in a former colonial outpost, the easiest way to tell imperial fasteners in my garage is by the rounded heads from using metric tools on them...
@AndyHullMcPenguin
@AndyHullMcPenguin 8 жыл бұрын
Another well tested method. Eyeball the fastener, and select the tool you are absolutely certain will fit it.. if you selected metric.. it will be imperial... and if you selected imperial it will be metric. Uncanny.. works every time for me.
@charredskeleton
@charredskeleton 8 жыл бұрын
If it's an American car either might fit, if it's a Japanese car metric tools will fit but you hands won't!
@apuuvah
@apuuvah 5 жыл бұрын
Hey... let's all switch to metric! And let's put the steering wheel on the left side as well, while we're at it!
@JordyValentine
@JordyValentine 8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I laughed way too hard at the click of the tourque wrench. I'm guessing you tourqued it to FT (fucking tight)
@TINRFD
@TINRFD 8 жыл бұрын
Jeff from elderly iron has the same torque wrenches...
@marccrocker1908
@marccrocker1908 8 жыл бұрын
me too lol
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 8 жыл бұрын
It took some learning growing up to stop at that click before the fastener said "Ting", and my knuckles chimed in.
@underourrock
@underourrock 8 жыл бұрын
FFT. That's Full Fucking Tight, for you. Any tighter and you get stripping.
@ddd228
@ddd228 8 жыл бұрын
GOOD-'EN-TIGHT. Yah .
@davidheaton7740
@davidheaton7740 8 жыл бұрын
I like the cavitation talk. Ive seen the end results of water cavitating a diesel injection pump quite a few times. They love to send steel glitter all through the fuel system as the pump detonates slowly.
@pauldavidson6321
@pauldavidson6321 5 жыл бұрын
The ISO code on the pump body is stamped "P " for pump or "M" for motor , Motors also usually have a case drain port.it would appear someone has swapped the rotation group to change direction. You have a pump in this clip as indicated by the seals on the thrust plates ,a motor is bidirectional and the thrust seals seals are figure 8 shaped .
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 4 жыл бұрын
You have a great deal of knowledge telling the difference between the two. You should have a KZbin channel.
@pauldavidson6321
@pauldavidson6321 4 жыл бұрын
@@dukeman7595 I run a hydraulic repair business.
@kdknitro
@kdknitro 8 жыл бұрын
Your hydraulic videos is how I discovered you, your infrared heat gun trick is worth its weight in gold. Keep up the great info.
@HennerZeller
@HennerZeller 8 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about the details of a gear pump and falsely assumed that the oil goes through the middle part, but had been wondering how it would do that as the cavity is pretty small there. Doh. That the oil goes _around_ the outer diameter makes much more sense. #TIL. Your vijeos are a source of interesting information. Skookum as frick. Thanks!
@tomcummings3471
@tomcummings3471 8 жыл бұрын
never thought about it until seconds before he was explaining it, but I too assumed the flow would go through the middle. which makes absolutely no sense in retrospect
@MIGASHOORAY
@MIGASHOORAY 8 жыл бұрын
N
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 8 жыл бұрын
I always imagined the closing in teeth would pressurise the oil (although the oil doesn't change in volume very much at all unlike with compressed air) with some leakage but yes going around the outside makes more sense.
@hamppid1alfathponphydrliqe60
@hamppid1alfathponphydrliqe60 6 жыл бұрын
Henner Zeller
@miguelash886
@miguelash886 6 жыл бұрын
I made the same assumption
@ronroberts110
@ronroberts110 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned cavitation. Put your hand underwater and move it from one side to the other really fast. A vacuum pocket will form behind the hand that you can easily see. There's no air in there, but it is a cavity. I have also seen the inlets being pressurized to reduce cavitation. The highest I saw was 100-PSI, and that was on a 3000-PSI system. Great vidya, my friend...
@marklowther2133
@marklowther2133 8 жыл бұрын
The cut out pieces on the gear side of the bearing holder only allow oil to escape back out into the side of the pump that it came from. Because the groves don't break into where the bearings are. The groves on top do look like they allow the high pressure oil into the bearings. I think this makes sense because if the oil was flowing in and out of the bearings it would not be at as high a pressure. Also I love your channel, and I wish I had lecturers like you at uni.
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 8 жыл бұрын
I love how you go into detail on how to verify that it's a metric bolt and then you wail on it with an 11/16 wrench. You can't script gold like that.
@ZerokillerOppel1
@ZerokillerOppel1 4 жыл бұрын
Celeb reply here!! Sorry it took me 4 years to notice...
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 4 жыл бұрын
I learned more in 10 minutes regarding the workings of a hydraulic pump/motor than I ever did watching KZbin videos.
@tomthumb3085
@tomthumb3085 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that it’s almost six years since I first watched this video. It’s still great to watch now. Thanks.
@anger806
@anger806 4 жыл бұрын
I am a mechanic for a company which specializes in truck mounted material handling loaders (primarily logs) ran completely by a gear pump mounted to an eaton pto on the underside of the truck transmission and driven by the input shaft of the transmission, typically when we see symptoms of a tired pump we only replace pumps, not disassemble and repair. This vidjayo defintely helped me understand a little more of the witchcraft that goes on inside these pumps
@moeshouse575
@moeshouse575 7 жыл бұрын
Moe7404. i worked industrial hydraulics for 20 years. now retired. that demo was the best that subject could EVER be done. the part about pump or motor is a point that even a lot of people that work on them dont even understand
@neilcarrie3396
@neilcarrie3396 6 жыл бұрын
I to work in the hydraulics industry and it does catch a lot of people out. What he stripped down was actually a pump tho because of the 2 different sized ports and the kidney plate seal only sealing off the high pressure side. Some pumps like commercial brand actually run a full seal around the shaft like a motor has but the ports are the give away.
@mattzze98
@mattzze98 5 жыл бұрын
Ist a one directon motor wich needs the sealing only on the higpressure side an a lekage flow from the bearings spots to the Tank side The actuator is labeld as a Motor also Greetings from germany
@keithcarpentersr.4353
@keithcarpentersr.4353 5 жыл бұрын
Moe Shouse I have an old backhoe and not really any power or force when I’m using the backhoe part. Would it be a bad pump?
@mattzze98
@mattzze98 5 жыл бұрын
@6:50 the seal needs only one lip to seal the second seallip is for dust. The Most Motors have a leakeoil port the Port is for reversal use in this case the motor can only be used in one direction
@NeilvanGeffen
@NeilvanGeffen 8 жыл бұрын
You're a knowledgeable man! And i'm glad to learn something new from you every video!
@babunaidu7670
@babunaidu7670 4 жыл бұрын
Hydaraulik relef valve
@babunaidu7670
@babunaidu7670 4 жыл бұрын
Relef valve experience
@sp1nrx
@sp1nrx 8 жыл бұрын
So hydraulics are the big boy version of wimpy pneumatics? :-)
@ownedpatrol
@ownedpatrol 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a little scrap honor pump from work that I'm gonna disassemble and attempt to fix. Your videos definitely helped get me interested!
@mehmetalikocak3843
@mehmetalikocak3843 8 ай бұрын
Aliminyum ana gövdede çizik varsa o pompa ölüdür , bogaz keçesi yada gözlüklerde, keçelerde problem varsa belki kurtarırsın pompanı .
@WheelH0rseC101
@WheelH0rseC101 8 жыл бұрын
i feel ave knows me, i do roll my own smokes and can kickstart a harley
@BrianB14471
@BrianB14471 8 жыл бұрын
but are you female?
@WheelH0rseC101
@WheelH0rseC101 8 жыл бұрын
was that aimed at the od female in the crowd then? didn't notice that xD
@apuuvah
@apuuvah 5 жыл бұрын
Quit smoking, roll a joint and switch to enduro (dual sport).
@dirtydish6642
@dirtydish6642 3 жыл бұрын
Put my 48 Ford 8N into a tree stump, cracking my loader pump case earlier this year. Had to self learn everything you just showed. This filled in some lingering gaps of knowledge from that day.
@Hizone1
@Hizone1 5 жыл бұрын
This video given me the exact knowledge that I need to know now a days for my project. Lot of thanks for uploading such a brilliant effort.
@davidbuschhorn6539
@davidbuschhorn6539 8 жыл бұрын
It's a lawnmower supercharger.
@Avram42
@Avram42 8 жыл бұрын
Does that mean it force-feeds grass into the blade?
@davidbuschhorn6539
@davidbuschhorn6539 8 жыл бұрын
Like how I put USB cords into the plugs. "God damn it! TAKE IT!"
@kumarkartike4638
@kumarkartike4638 7 жыл бұрын
+Dav5id Buschhollll
@gotjuggling
@gotjuggling 8 жыл бұрын
Only positive displacement pumps create flow. Centrifugal pumps create pressure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain, and this makes intuitive sense when considering the high clearance provided in most impeller pumps, and the low clearance in positive displacement pumps like gear pumps or reciprocating pumps.
@pzozack07
@pzozack07 8 жыл бұрын
I was always under the impression that hydraulic motors had the same size ports on either side, so that the motor would spin the same speeds in either direction. Then hydraulic pumps normally had the larger size for suction and the smaller size for pressure, depending on the application.
@lanwickum
@lanwickum 7 жыл бұрын
Those pumps are designed to wear into itself. The gears eat into the housing at break-in making its own clearance. You will always see wear in the housing. The wear is on the low pressure side. High pressure pushes toward low pressure. If the wear goes past the housing locating pins to the high pressure side it is worn out. If you replace the bearings, you reset where the gears are at in the housing and you have internal leakage. Thanks for the vid, sorry my comment is a year late.
@HonzaZalabak
@HonzaZalabak Жыл бұрын
Hello. Is it possible to buy these bearings as spare parts?
@DasGrinch
@DasGrinch 8 жыл бұрын
I keep waiting for the day when I'm going to need something I learned here at work. I work in the wireless internet industry, so there's not many hydraulic pumps and such, but some day!
@anthonydurantine2292
@anthonydurantine2292 3 жыл бұрын
Think you should find some vajayos that’s apply to your needs friend
@Gu1tarZer0
@Gu1tarZer0 8 жыл бұрын
I love how you can explain shit better in a few minutes than 3 weeks of high school ever did..
@goose300183
@goose300183 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I am not any kind of engineer, and I learn a lot from his vids. He drops gold nuggets of information without even knowing it sometimes I think.
@dnsmithnc
@dnsmithnc 5 жыл бұрын
They might have explained it just as well in high school but, at the time, you no interest or little experience in the topic. That is, the teacher's ability to teach isn't that much different from AVE but you, with your age and experience, are different.
@villijs33321
@villijs33321 3 жыл бұрын
That's because in high school teacher are only theorists they have no idea how stuff works in real life ...
@ActionMax09
@ActionMax09 6 жыл бұрын
Om Gosh Ave... You have a video for everything. What is it that you do for a living? You're a genius.
@tomconner9695
@tomconner9695 5 жыл бұрын
What drives hydraulic pump and the pump creates pressure, that pressure is determined by the circuits resistance to the flow of the oil passing through it, where that occurs determines the nominal (required) pressure, and the max or stall pressure. The resistance in the lines orifice fitting filter or valve will determine nominal pressure (the pressure that occurs in the lines when the force driving the pump meets the opposing force (friction) enough pressure builds up to either overcome the resistance or bypass the circuit through the relief valve, of the system is functioning as intended then the H/F starts to transfer the pumps mechanical input to the motor, (pressure and flow) setting the motor into motion and the fluid into the return line.
@Mmouse_
@Mmouse_ 8 жыл бұрын
Do you have any examples of cavitation damage? I'd like to see what that looks like up close.
@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760
@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760 8 жыл бұрын
It Kinda looks like it has been sandblasted ;)
@marklowther2133
@marklowther2133 8 жыл бұрын
bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/energy-tech.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/b3/db3ca91e-0637-11e6-97cb-dffd69c367a4/57163b7e13c8d.image.jpg?resize=300%2C400
@johan.mp4
@johan.mp4 8 жыл бұрын
... and a bigger version bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/energy-tech.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/b3/db3ca91e-0637-11e6-97cb-dffd69c367a4/57163b7e13c8d.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C1600
@aglaycock1
@aglaycock1 8 жыл бұрын
If you google cavitation damage you will see all sorts of damage pics from props, pumps, impellers etc. It is quite a fascinating failure mode.
@AndyHullMcPenguin
@AndyHullMcPenguin 8 жыл бұрын
If you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner (and who doesn't)... pop in a bit of tinfoil and clean it to death.. Tiny holes will appear, caused by cavitation. Also check out -> --lmh.epfl.ch/page-57977-en.html--
@realbeef6538
@realbeef6538 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I hope you see this. I just wanted to say I love your videos. Very fun and educational. Some of the best entertainment on youtube. Chooch.
@ericesoteric1884
@ericesoteric1884 8 жыл бұрын
Upon seeing the Craftsman wrench, I had to go into the toolbox for the crucifix and hold it up to the screen. Thoroughly shaken, I then called my Snap-On dealer for further support.
@marcellemay7721
@marcellemay7721 8 жыл бұрын
How many easy payments did that cost ya?
@ericesoteric1884
@ericesoteric1884 8 жыл бұрын
+Marcel LeMay Lmao! touché brother.
@Emenblade
@Emenblade 8 жыл бұрын
yeah and when she breaks and the guy doesn't show up for a month. fuck that! nawh any way if hes like most of us here hes probably got at least 4 11/16" wrenches. Plus the ones hes had to fuck up to change that one hose jammed up at the back to the valve body some some obscure obsolete machine.
@JerseyTom
@JerseyTom 8 жыл бұрын
some would say the real measure of a man is how many combination wrenches he has cut in half and/or welded into funky angles
@JonathanSchattke
@JonathanSchattke 8 жыл бұрын
cavitation is not from boiling, but from moving a surface in contact with the fluid faster than the speed of sound of the fluid.
@nelumbonucifera7537
@nelumbonucifera7537 8 жыл бұрын
That doesn't sound right - the effect should be dependent on the vapor pressure of the fluid. The bubble collapse does occur at the fluid's speed of sound, though.
@squareroots3931
@squareroots3931 8 жыл бұрын
+Hans the speed of sound is different in all materials.
@marccrocker1908
@marccrocker1908 8 жыл бұрын
@hans the speed of sound waves differs among different materials. high density materials transfer concussion waves faster than low density materials, hence the speed of sound is faster in water than it is in air. grade 4 science ftw
@fawzanna
@fawzanna 8 жыл бұрын
let's do some math, speed of sound in air 340 m/s , a pump gear diameter 25 mm (a big pump )and so 340 /(3.14 *.025) * 60 = 259 872 rpm if you divide that by 1500 rpm or 1800 rpm you find that it is around 173 ~ 144 fold just saying .
@marccrocker1908
@marccrocker1908 8 жыл бұрын
@fawzan if I'm reading this correctly I think your reasoning is flawed. you're assuming speed of sound in air, at sea level, through the gear. what's flowing through the gear is oil under negative pressure. as AvE said the oil can boil, now I'm not an inganeer or a math magician, but it stands to reason that the density inside the gear is very different from oil at 1 atmosphere of pressure. now I have been wrong once or twice, and could very well be again, but my previous point was to explain "speed of sound of a fluid".
@GlawberOliveira
@GlawberOliveira 8 жыл бұрын
I was so pumped for this video
@jiaan100
@jiaan100 8 жыл бұрын
A year and a half of engineering classes: the video
@Ironfist2211
@Ironfist2211 8 жыл бұрын
"You're gonna have schmoo blasting in your face like last Saturday night" --AVE Fukken pure gold buddy
@4speed3pedals
@4speed3pedals Жыл бұрын
I wish I would have watched this 6 years ago. I now understand why a Melling oil pump for a small block Chevy has the pressure relief valve and how it controls bearing pressure and yes, it dumps into the crankcase. It contains no o-ring so the design is simpler and works for the needed pressure. KUDOS! As an aside, modern engine machining now uses plateau honing with deep scratches and a finish that is smoothed for the piston rings to seal "against" and the ring seal is the oil, not the pressure. You want no contact between the 2. This is why modern pistons rings live longer. Better seal, less emissions, more power, longer life. Rediscovered by the diesel crowd that make extremely high horsepower. Can you say RVK meter?
@MindCrime550
@MindCrime550 8 жыл бұрын
just stumbled upon this channel, 2nd video in. I knew right away this guy is smart and funny. Keep up the good work!
@ta420nk5
@ta420nk5 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, your ability to explain relatively complex workings is second to none. I was going to ask your option on a brand of tool the other day and bam there it was, what do you think about porter cable?
@MohaMMaDiN55
@MohaMMaDiN55 5 жыл бұрын
I love you man. I never seen such an explanation like this for gear pumps. neither in books.
@Emenblade
@Emenblade 8 жыл бұрын
oh and the bearing cut out bits are also to ensure there is flow of new oil past the bearings to keep them cool and lubricated. I dunno if you can get your hands on a variable displacement piston pump, but them things are pretty cool as far as pumps go. we use them in our manlifts for the drive circuit.
@evansveilleux5168
@evansveilleux5168 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear good views,explanation,and comprehensive language;as much as vocabulary,u can tell the speaker knows what’s an hydraulic component
@Agar4Life
@Agar4Life 8 жыл бұрын
"Before I was rudely interrupted by the truth" has to be up there with one of your best lines. Copyright it quick before it becomes a US presidential campaign slogan.
@Skraap
@Skraap 8 жыл бұрын
Great video :) What kind of RPM are these normally run at? And how much power are we talking for a pump of this size?
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 8 жыл бұрын
+AvE surprising that such a little pump needs such a beefy motor. I thought maybe 5hp.
@HelenaOfDetroit
@HelenaOfDetroit 8 жыл бұрын
hydraulics always give (and thereby take) more power then the size usually indicates. The same can be said for AvE's dick, but only when it's in a vice.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Stromecki Some powerfull stuff right there! Hydraulics infected my brain. I must go into that stuff.
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 8 жыл бұрын
+Nike, Don't forget the center tooth have pressure on them. They have about half of their surface exposed to the high pressure side. So tq=S*P*lever S is surface 2*(1*1/4-1*1/8) in² P is pressure 3000psi L is the distance from the axe to the force, so 1in tq=2*(1*1/4-1*1/8)*3000*1=750 lbin= 125lbft You understand the physics, but beware of calculus error.
@UneedAname45
@UneedAname45 8 жыл бұрын
typically less than 3000rpm and under 3000 psi. you can get some that are higher pressure and rpm
@ALegitimateYoutuber
@ALegitimateYoutuber 8 жыл бұрын
After hearing you talking about pressure and flow, I wish you would do a few videos just on the basics. Kinda like what you would see in those old education film from like the 40's. Because without a doubt you're knowledgeable enough to get the info right, and I feel you would easily be able to put it all in layman terms.
@mannyfernandez7028
@mannyfernandez7028 7 жыл бұрын
know what?youre my favorite youtuber from now on..more power to your channel.
@rsedivy2
@rsedivy2 8 жыл бұрын
I am a comp sci student with literally zero experience in anything mechanics related, yet I still enjoy the hell out of these vijayos
@MikeEdwardsful
@MikeEdwardsful 8 жыл бұрын
I actually just watch this because it's entertaining and interesting. I don't think I'll ever be using a hydraulic gear pump in my life. But I'll be damned if I don't say that I enjoy the shit out of your videos.
@TomsLife9
@TomsLife9 8 жыл бұрын
just gotta torque the bolts down, "click!" goes the box wench call that a "one grunt" torque spec
@samlau7948
@samlau7948 8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! AvE's ikea table: torque the bottom screws two grunts, try wiggling it until it choochs
@kylebarg880
@kylebarg880 8 жыл бұрын
"metric grade 12.9" but then goes on to use an imperial 11/16" wrench.
@gregadams558
@gregadams558 8 жыл бұрын
Nice catch.
@MrAwoodrow
@MrAwoodrow 8 жыл бұрын
It's not 12.9 in size, it's a rating for the strength of the bolt. It was a 17mm bolt, the 11/16" is close enough..."for the girls he goes out with"
@martinus9755
@martinus9755 8 жыл бұрын
When all you have is an 11/16 every nut looks like it's about to get fucked.
@wayne5607
@wayne5607 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a repair video on hydraulic pumps and you came up! VERY COOL! I love your videos! Thanks!
@leehodge2415
@leehodge2415 8 жыл бұрын
he hydrulic lessons are worth the patreon, the boltr's are gravy. thx for welcoming us into your shop, sorry about the occasional riff raff
@Syncubus
@Syncubus 8 жыл бұрын
I'm rarely offended by AvE's language, but I find it surprising for him to use the N-word at 0:27, almost directly after the language disclaimer!
@MelvinWillikers
@MelvinWillikers 8 жыл бұрын
Inwards and outwards?
@BriarHood
@BriarHood 8 жыл бұрын
it's the owtwords I'm worried aboot.
@gerhardtoxopeus8574
@gerhardtoxopeus8574 8 жыл бұрын
dick not nick
@StefsEngineering
@StefsEngineering 8 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, using words like inwards and outwards is totally out of place and uncalled for in a disassembly review.
@kyloren8236
@kyloren8236 8 жыл бұрын
N words and out words
@promenacegaming5402
@promenacegaming5402 6 жыл бұрын
I just had to rebuild one of these on my PTO for my wrecker, and damn. This knowledge is great.
@irritablearchitect
@irritablearchitect 8 жыл бұрын
7:13 "...there is no clearance when we put the shaft through, so it's nice and tight..." The double entendre is strong with you.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 8 жыл бұрын
Mostly unrelated note. Cavitation also kills wet-cylinder diesel engines when the incorrect antifreeze is used. Many good old diesel engines died of this due to new inexperienced owners.
@rhunter3406
@rhunter3406 8 жыл бұрын
That's why all new diesels run OAT coolant similar to dexcool where they already have the proper additives in them. In glycol systems you need DCAs which you also have to ad in when changing it, its kind of like the whole gear oil with anti slip additive already in it nowadays, because way too many people were fucking it up.
@DoRC
@DoRC 8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. From the automotive mechanic side is always throught it squeezed through the middle. This makes more sense now that i see you explain it.
@farmertyler8087
@farmertyler8087 2 жыл бұрын
Had to re build a couple of those last winter, i had absolutely no idea how they worked but somehow the re builds went good
@bryanb7918
@bryanb7918 8 жыл бұрын
quick question on the backup plate for that lip seal, how exactly does it work to make that 15psi seal hold up to 3000psi? does it just add force back on the lip to keep it from folding over? the reason I'm asking is because my truck has an 87 cummins diesel engine from a Komatsu excavator and they are equipped with a rotary pump with a front lip seal. now normally that lip seal is no big deal because it's just sealing a low pressure vane pump inside the injection pump itself, and is usually only fed up to 12 psi or so. But when people go to bumping up the pumps it gets to be necessary to start upping the pressure of the fuel supply to help keep the pump supplied with fuel and keep the dynamic timing working. But upping the inlet pressure starts to leak past the seal at around 18psi. so what I'm asking is, can you send me a drawing or make a quick video of how that backup plate on the seal is keeping that much pressure in so I can some how make my truck go faster and not fill the crank case with diesel fuel? lol thanks in advance!
@pauldavidson6321
@pauldavidson6321 5 жыл бұрын
The seals don't seal anywhere near 3000 psi ,he's wrong about that 50 to 150 psi is considered high in a pump or motor, the rotation group of the pump directs all high pressure flow to the outlet port it's only a small amount of bypass leakage that gets to the shaft seal to lube the bearings ,heat is far bigger problem for an engine mounted pump like yours, we fit Viton shaft seals to cope with that ,I've had 30 years experience working in the commercial hydraulic industry BTW.
@davidmoon2877
@davidmoon2877 8 жыл бұрын
Lmao "like last Saturday night."
@sv55492
@sv55492 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could you possibly do a video of the internal workings of a hydraulic pump/motor and how it transitions between the two functions? Thanks!
@sparkythawelder
@sparkythawelder 8 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken sysyemic pressure does not change the vapor pressure of a liquid. Vapor pressure is effected by temperature. I think what you meant to say was that as systemic pressure drops and converges with the vapor pressure of the oil it will begin to boil causing the pump to capital. Keep up the good work man I love your videos.
@ryanbarbolt3691
@ryanbarbolt3691 8 жыл бұрын
I've been taking things apart since I was 5, and I gotta say I love your channel, even if you are Canadiene. Keep it up
@GrassDaddy
@GrassDaddy 8 жыл бұрын
when you twist the shaft fluid comes out?
@ericwolf5874
@ericwolf5874 8 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about the IN's and OUT's of a Hydo pump.... and now I even know the in-between's.
@Lazarus7000
@Lazarus7000 8 жыл бұрын
I learn so much useful stuff from these videos. Shortly after you cause me to develop the question "how does something that, by definition, when it is working, is always in a pressurized oil bath, come to experience failure?" you answer the question.
@u9Nails
@u9Nails 8 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff! Did you have any plans to use this motor in anything, or did you just did it up for edumacation / demonstration?
@adamdebowski2037
@adamdebowski2037 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Hands down #1 key takeaway is the wife underwear joke 😂
@jhjbeckett1
@jhjbeckett1 8 жыл бұрын
Sir, you have a way of breaking down high end knowledge to my level. Also, I can't stop saying chooch or skookum. Thanks!
@a__duck
@a__duck 8 жыл бұрын
This is awesome , im taking a hydraulic design course right now so this is at a perfect time!
@jamesdaniels9882
@jamesdaniels9882 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos helped me fix my ingersol-rand impact now its helping me understand pto’s that i work with daily better. You got one for everything dont ya
@kvurban1
@kvurban1 8 жыл бұрын
what is the word he uses at 13:13. I've heard him use it before. I know what he means but I've never heard anyone else use it
@mythril4
@mythril4 6 жыл бұрын
I use used small pumps on drills or mounted to a motor to function as a viscus fluid pump. If you ever filled a transmission from the bottom of a vehicle, this will make sense. At low pressure, these will pump 140W oils no problem. Another fun point of using these as viscus fluid pumps, flip your motor or drill into reverse and it changes the direct of the fluid (put too much in scenario). Yes at low pressure a battery operated drill will run these with no issues.
@sc0tte1-416
@sc0tte1-416 7 жыл бұрын
I've been in the logistic industry for about 18 years in various positions, so I've operated a crap-ton of different material handling equipment over the years. Something I've noticed with electric forklifts is the older (I'm talking electric trucks here) is the pump would always operate at one speed, ie balls-to-the-wall, no matter how much action you selected on one of your levers. I'm guessing the excess oil was being diverted back to the res via your valve block, but that's a bit redundant. The newer machines seem to not only have control-by-wire, but the pump only works as much as required, none of that sudden motor noise when you just want to move something by a hair.
@marv42dp
@marv42dp 8 жыл бұрын
Caught myself copying your hand movements while explaining some very techy stuff to a customer. Thanks! ;-)
@mb2k100
@mb2k100 8 жыл бұрын
The odd lady here
@1hdsquad
@1hdsquad 8 жыл бұрын
But do you kickstart a Harley?
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 8 жыл бұрын
How odd are you, exactly? :p
@red00eye
@red00eye 8 жыл бұрын
Can you suck start a Scania?
@DCsk8rgoelz
@DCsk8rgoelz 8 жыл бұрын
+
@TerryPullen
@TerryPullen 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the boy's club.
@lourdesamykupusamy4314
@lourdesamykupusamy4314 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your clear explanation and good reasoning.you are professional. Thankyou for sharing without holding any secrets.
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo 3 жыл бұрын
As a Double E I love this channel!
@bobiggins8027
@bobiggins8027 8 жыл бұрын
how are you so fucking good at explaining things, you need to write books and force them upon us all
@garym8348
@garym8348 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Very in-fkn-formative. I had to replace the oil pump in my car about 20 years ago and for whatever reason I thought about gear pumps and watched your vid. Great job, good info.. Thanks again.
@ve2vfd
@ve2vfd 8 жыл бұрын
Many Fire Engines use a gear pump attached to an electric starter motor as "primer". The gear pump is used to create a vacuum in the body of the main rotary pump (with the help of a little spritz of oil on the gears) to get the air out of it and flood water into it (from a the tank, a hydrant or a pool/pond). The gear pump is also used to test for leaks in the pump and manifolds valves by creating a vacuum which must be maintained when the primer it turned off (which is why the main gauges go into negative pressure on the panel).
@aleksandardimitrijevic6575
@aleksandardimitrijevic6575 8 жыл бұрын
14:14 I like that super hero line ^.^ Bdw Ave, you such a senpai, much knowledge, very appreciations!
@Mrdarkstar1967
@Mrdarkstar1967 8 жыл бұрын
Could a pump like this be used to pump waste vegetable oil? Pumps designed specifically to move wvo are expensive. Love your channel BTW
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 8 жыл бұрын
Andrei Bredin - Unless you need to move cold/lower than Summer temperature veg oil... save yourself the TT&E and check out the 12V transfer pump kit available via HarborFreight or if you'd rather go the less expensive/barebones route and want to add your own plumping... similar barbones 12V diesel fuel transfer pumps are also available on fleabay. On a side note... you will want to figure out a safe, simple way to lightly and intermittently heat your veg oil for easier pumping. Also, if you decide to go the gear pump route, keep in mind GP's require clean oil to maintain the effective tolerance of the pumping gears. Actually been running a Diesel on wvo for 10+ yrs and have it just about down to a science.
@dwaarf
@dwaarf 8 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. There is one more way to say what way should the pump turn. You just check how the seals on the sealing elements are fitted. The high pressure part is divided from the low pressure so just by telling which part is which you can tell if the pump is cw or ccw.
@CharlySick
@CharlySick 8 жыл бұрын
+AvE I like this new frequency of video releases. Keep it up!
@a_Gláir
@a_Gláir 4 жыл бұрын
I just see that you`ve mounted the seals directing the flow from gallery to the inlet. Maybe that is because I have an oil linking in the motor axle, once I have done quite opositte.
@dummyduhast
@dummyduhast Жыл бұрын
Excellent, I have been trying to figure out why my pump wont build pressure and heats up quickly, after reversing the rotation I didn't get the excess fluid diverter in the correct orientation, works great now, thanks!!!!
@Iowahurler82
@Iowahurler82 8 жыл бұрын
If you have a clock wise motor, and you bought a counter clockwise pump, would it be easier to swap two wires on the motor, assuming 3 phase?
@wgm-en2gx
@wgm-en2gx 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I've mistakenly thought that the pump moved oiled through the mesh of the gears. The first thing I thought when you opened it was how does the oil move through such a close mesh. Now it makes perfect sense that it doesn't and in retrospect it was a little stupid to think that it did...
@TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd
@TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd 3 жыл бұрын
So pressure is torque and flow is horsepower. Gotcha. Thanks for all the videos! I've learned a lot!
@eustus815
@eustus815 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the video one can understand easily
@VikingPickles
@VikingPickles 8 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video to watch since we just replaced a much, much larger gear pump at work last week. The one thing I don't understand though is how ours are lubricated or sealed since they pump molten plastic instead of oil. Maybe they still have it sitting in the maintenance area and I could look at it, I'm definitely going to check it out Wednesday.
@aglaycock1
@aglaycock1 8 жыл бұрын
What sort of temperature is the plastic at? if I had to guess it will be a viton or PTFE o-ring to deal with the temperature and then the lubrication will not be present due to the low speeds I would expect a plastic pump to run at. Do you know the speed? It probably runs in bushes as above, but without hydrodynamics support. If it runs fast or the loads are high then it will have to have a sealed shaft and roller bearings or journal bearings external to this seal. If you find out let me know, sounds like an interestingly niche application. I design engines, so it is a bit left field for me :)
@VikingPickles
@VikingPickles 8 жыл бұрын
The plastic is at different temperatures depending on the material blend, but usually around ~450f going into the gear pump. The RPMs vary from machine to machine but are fairly low, from say 40 to 125 RPM. Also just in case you were curious these are used to extrude the plastic into sheets.
@aglaycock1
@aglaycock1 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty slow then, you'd only have bushes or rolling element bearings for that speed. Bushes seem more likely. But I would think they would have to be external from the horrible plastic that is oozing through the pump. I don't know how easy it is to dynamically seal molten plastic on a shaft, depends on the pressure. If you are interested in pumps, automotive variable displacement pumps are works of art. 2009.tokyo-motorshow.com/gallery/photo/140_010_Parts-W/img_s/SY1_IMG_8712.JPG
@VikingPickles
@VikingPickles 8 жыл бұрын
The pressure is 1200 psi, and that photo just blew my mind.
@aglaycock1
@aglaycock1 8 жыл бұрын
Without going into too much detail. 1. The outer ring of the pump pivots on that black pin on the left, and is resisted by the spring on the right. 2. The high pressure outlet also supplies the other side of this housing. So as the pressure builds it tries to pivot the housing on the spring. 3. As the housing pivots you will see that the inner and outer pump rings will be more aligned until they are perfectly aligned, at which point the pump will displace nothing. 4. So to control this there is a little electronic solenoid that regulates how much pressure is pivoting the housing. 5. When the engine is at very high speed you don't need the massive amount of oil that the pump is displacing at that speed, and with old pumps the relief valve just dumps this oil to the sump. With these variable pumps the pump only supplies the amount of oil the engine actually needs at any given speed, thus saving a lot of energy/fuel. I went into too much detail...
@granjadelcastillohatchery4725
@granjadelcastillohatchery4725 4 жыл бұрын
I think the arrow on the backplate means the inlet port if you will use it as hydraulic motor... correct me if i'm wrong
@EETechs
@EETechs 8 жыл бұрын
Those Buna n seals also blow out sometimes that can cause the pump to be low flow.
@maxhaines9063
@maxhaines9063 8 жыл бұрын
The flow vs pressure thing, would that transfer to pneumatic systems?
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