Hydraulics using compressed air.

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AvE

AvE

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@DrewskisBrews
@DrewskisBrews 10 ай бұрын
Try running it off the coolant system. That could be entertaining
@CrawfordAutomation
@CrawfordAutomation 10 ай бұрын
LOL was gonna suggest the same... You already have a low pressure hydraulic capable fluid at the machine!
@netWiz1
@netWiz1 9 ай бұрын
How well is the coolant filtered? Any chance of frigging up the seals?
@aerogfs
@aerogfs 9 ай бұрын
@@netWiz1 It would loosen the seals, so it wouldn't stick as much. It would eventually start leaking, but hey, it's coolant, it's supposed to leak anyway...
@tim_tim_tim
@tim_tim_tim 9 ай бұрын
@@aerogfscooling and self lubricating in one 👏
@davidskiffington7039
@davidskiffington7039 9 ай бұрын
Why would you say a hateful thing like that? Truly, man is wolf to man!
@Blakspire
@Blakspire 10 ай бұрын
If you're not spending hours of time to avoid seconds of work, whats the point?
@jepjona
@jepjona 10 ай бұрын
keep in mind you have to subtract the seconds of work, multiplied by the number of times you do that work from the hours of time avoiding to do that work.... you will still never make up the difference but it gives you the motivation to continue wasting time to not do that work.
@shaunybonny688
@shaunybonny688 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@donaldholden2090
@donaldholden2090 10 ай бұрын
Words I can't help but live by. I didnt install smart switches in my house because I'm lazy. I did it because they're cool.
@TheBigSki
@TheBigSki 10 ай бұрын
Amen brother haha
@Bradimus1
@Bradimus1 10 ай бұрын
"Normally, if given the choice between doing something and nothing, I’d choose to do nothing. But I will do something if it helps someone else do nothing. I’d work all night, if it meant nothing got done." - Ron Swanson
@mopedmarathon
@mopedmarathon 10 ай бұрын
And that folks, is the finger trapper 3000! Slower than opening the doors by hand maybe, but it does make Star Trek noises!
@4d4Spl
@4d4Spl 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes the brain says, "Why not?" Then reality tells you why !
@FulloutPostal
@FulloutPostal 10 ай бұрын
reality is overrated
@bholdr----0
@bholdr----0 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes we just haven't to learn the hard way.
@icepick_method3439
@icepick_method3439 9 ай бұрын
Reality is a virus, downing in excuses.
@KillerSpud
@KillerSpud 10 ай бұрын
You don't have to make your own sci-fi sound effects anymore!
@dv87
@dv87 10 ай бұрын
Open the pod bay doors Hal.
@shadowfirekarp
@shadowfirekarp 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry AvE, I'm afraid I can't chooch that.
@hedge685
@hedge685 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
@JayFude
@JayFude 10 ай бұрын
I"m sorry dv... I can't do that!
@TheSaltyExplorer
@TheSaltyExplorer 9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
@ToroMoto
@ToroMoto 10 ай бұрын
AVE comes back during the eclipse... It wasn't a bust after all
@bholdr----0
@bholdr----0 10 ай бұрын
Oh... Creepy!
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 10 ай бұрын
Some call him skull knight
@Guardian_Arias
@Guardian_Arias 10 ай бұрын
Glad you are alive, I was thinking some corpo did you in like Boing done did John Barnett.
@microbuilder
@microbuilder 10 ай бұрын
Just gotta remove the doors and take your shower of slice n dice chips and coolant like a man lol
@Aasal76
@Aasal76 9 ай бұрын
The shower and ships👍
@ctdieselnut
@ctdieselnut 8 ай бұрын
Jeep style
@DasIllu
@DasIllu 10 ай бұрын
Just add a pneumatically actuated hammer to the cylinders. 5 taps per second, easily done with 10 0r 12 valves on one of these fluid logic systems that were popular in the 70's.
@netWiz1
@netWiz1 9 ай бұрын
Or an air chisel on a springamathing with the chisel electro-glued. Should chooch
@plane7453
@plane7453 10 ай бұрын
A shower and a grower. Best of both worlds, louder and more dangerous!
@avelord6135
@avelord6135 10 ай бұрын
"Welcome to the hooodrolic CNC channel"
@GregsStoneYard
@GregsStoneYard 10 ай бұрын
I can relate. My X axis is half of an old automotive lift salvaged from a snowbank, and the rotary is surplus slewing gear for solar tracking...
@121dodgers
@121dodgers 10 ай бұрын
Lmao... why did I just read that with an accent though!!😂
@fritsified5952
@fritsified5952 10 ай бұрын
And here we go!
@microbuilder
@microbuilder 10 ай бұрын
I read that in Lauris voice, all that was missing was crushing some stuff lol
@ringerdiggsycobbsy6254
@ringerdiggsycobbsy6254 10 ай бұрын
Great to see you back young man didn't know what happened to you I was getting a bit worried I was starting to get panic attacks lol keep up the good work mate you've told me so much over the years, your KZbin mate Brad from Queensland Australia
@tattmanndann
@tattmanndann 10 ай бұрын
"they didn't have anything long enough of the shelf" me too buddy, me too!
@MDuarte-vp7bm
@MDuarte-vp7bm 8 ай бұрын
You gotta go a special website for the big girl stuff, I've found.
@andrews8722
@andrews8722 10 ай бұрын
If you use shorter pneumatics you could use a lever type linkage for double the stroke, half the chooch.
@cadelundin7278
@cadelundin7278 9 ай бұрын
DIY air over hydraulic: Oversize the airlines and run them to the ceiling and fill with hydraulic oil. That way the cylinders are always filled with oil. I bet you it’ll work.
@ewm3686
@ewm3686 10 ай бұрын
You’re alive!!!!! Nice seeing ya again. missed you and your content!
@Eluderatnight
@Eluderatnight 10 ай бұрын
Star Trek was smarter, they just had 2 guys open and shut the automatic doors.
@anthonycampbell1726
@anthonycampbell1726 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget your release clamps, I have to disassemble the whole hydraulic system to get the door open. 🤣
@MuffinManUSN
@MuffinManUSN 9 ай бұрын
Feeling like the guilty pleasure all the Manufucturing companies are taking watching you try fir us. Keep trying my good sir. We love what you do and admittance to fail fast and hard is just a splendid touch
@sadlerbw9
@sadlerbw9 10 ай бұрын
You know, a couple of garage door springs mounted vertically with cheap openers driving them would be WAY scarier. I'm not sure it would work any better, but I bet you would get real close to losing positive sphincter control every time it operated!
@gypsydildopunks7083
@gypsydildopunks7083 10 ай бұрын
BUDDY!! You're back!!! Excellent
@killmore75
@killmore75 10 ай бұрын
You can used Try flow Teflon lubricant on those shaft! No more stickiness issues!
@dkeith45
@dkeith45 10 ай бұрын
That almost worked great AvE., maybe a large coil spring attached to the outbound rod so it'll help retract it? BTW, many moons ago when I was a wee lad, working as shop labor at Beamsterboer Slag and Ballast in or around Hammond, Indiana, the mechanics one day were working on a large hydraulic cylinder removed from a large bulldozer. They were having trouble moving the movable part so decided to use compressed air to NUDGE it out bit by bit, but unfortunately they didn't provide any limiting device to the cylinder whilst doing so, and on the first shot of compressed air, the inner rod shot out of the outer cylinder like a cannon ball, which when skittering across the shop floor along with what seemed like gallons of hydraulic fluid : )
@nickk7657
@nickk7657 9 ай бұрын
Your content is the RedGreen show for the 21st century! Love it!
@ashlandgunclub1000
@ashlandgunclub1000 10 ай бұрын
I’ve got a brilliant idea, use the upper appendages and the flexible five digit implements that are inherent to the mark 1 biomass.
@aerogfs
@aerogfs 10 ай бұрын
At this point, I'm giving up on air and oil... and using electric motors and belts. One of those kits for doors.
@martin-vv9lf
@martin-vv9lf 9 ай бұрын
yeah, you could copy the electric sliding doors supermarkets use. i think air rams are the wrong way to go but w/e
@joshmarkey780
@joshmarkey780 7 ай бұрын
I work for a haas dealer that does machine mods and we use dynatect Safety Door Retrofit Kits. Belt driven that can be made safe ie will stop if you have something in the way
@markenwolfram9101
@markenwolfram9101 10 ай бұрын
A wise man once told me. Sometimes the ethical question of whether should you just because you can?
@Vikingwerk
@Vikingwerk 10 ай бұрын
Air springs spook me.
@MarcusLindblomSonestedt78
@MarcusLindblomSonestedt78 10 ай бұрын
As they should.
@ttype231
@ttype231 10 ай бұрын
Garage door springs and rubber end stops? Actually reminds me of something I did as a kid. Repurposed a button and solenoid for remote trunk opening into a Mustang II, BUT, also turned the springs up. ...every time I hit that button, I crouched down, to avoid the possible shower of broken glass. Never backed off the springs. Whoever got that car, must've got a fun surprise...
@ericchevalier74
@ericchevalier74 10 ай бұрын
Nice , now you can hear when someone try to steal a bag of Chips from there.
@adamfoster802
@adamfoster802 10 ай бұрын
You have some floor on your shavings.
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 10 ай бұрын
0:07 lordy, it's a two fer this week 😅😂 Glad to had yea back my bouy
@BurchellAtTheWharf
@BurchellAtTheWharf 10 ай бұрын
2:28 deer say, woodnt a lob of lube do the tricket?
@aznative_
@aznative_ 10 ай бұрын
Looks like two more reasons to wake up one day and say ahhh fuck. KISS has left the building 🎉😂
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 10 ай бұрын
There may also be assembly lube (grease) in the cylinders that is causing the sticktion at both extremes of travel. Disassemble them, clean with a non-chlor solvent, and reassemble with spray dry silicone as the lube.
@ScottDavisFisch
@ScottDavisFisch 10 ай бұрын
Can you maybe just take those apart and remove the wiper seal from the inside? Or change it out with a seal with less friction ? It might reduce some stickiness. Or add some KY.
@robertwazniak9495
@robertwazniak9495 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking maybe some oil myself. Pistons always go in and out easier if lubricated.
@danielmcwhirter4334
@danielmcwhirter4334 10 ай бұрын
Keep the wiper, debris will score your rod if left unchecked. I would tear it down and use an unloaded gland seal or "u-seal". The seal in there now has what they call an Energizer in the u-seal. Hercules sealing products sells to the public now and you can buy a one piece u-seal or rod seal that doesn't have that.
@jeffreydurham5342
@jeffreydurham5342 10 ай бұрын
Yes, KY is some slippery stuff, got me out of a situation a time or two.
@chopshopchopper
@chopshopchopper 9 ай бұрын
I don't know I'm thinking ASTROGLIDE...
@thomasdoherty6876
@thomasdoherty6876 9 ай бұрын
That rod lube comes in a variety of flavours now
@Bradimus1
@Bradimus1 10 ай бұрын
If this was a fail hard you would have destroyed the doors and hinges ending in maniacal laughter and tears.
@floodo1
@floodo1 10 ай бұрын
slowly turning your cnc into a musical instrument I see
@denis55ist
@denis55ist 10 ай бұрын
I went down this road once .I used a rotary actuator from a butterfly valve to raise and lower a boom on a spray rig . Even with needle valves controlling the air flow on both sides of the actuator the speed control was temperamental . I always thought about using an air over oil system like how the old single post car hoists used to operate . /@DrewskisBrews idea of using the cooling system sounds like it would worth a try ,
@brianvalliere552
@brianvalliere552 10 ай бұрын
Love it when I realize I’ve been “mysteriously” unsubscribed to my favorite channels
@henryokeeffe5835
@henryokeeffe5835 10 ай бұрын
It's not just high sticktivity. It's also low pressure compared to the hydraulic system they were designed for.
@imbe.
@imbe. 9 ай бұрын
What a cool curious set up. I hope it turns out good! I hope you post some continuation to this project :)
@billy2x433
@billy2x433 9 ай бұрын
Best part of my day looking at a new video thank you sir
@CJWarlock
@CJWarlock 10 ай бұрын
I thought "Princess Auto" was AvE's comedic "remix" of some real business name. I found out it's a real business name of a Canadian "retail chain specializing in farm, industrial, garage, hydraulics and surplus items". :D
@LegacyLives96
@LegacyLives96 9 ай бұрын
canukistan harbor freight equivalent
@juliogonzo2718
@juliogonzo2718 4 ай бұрын
And their house brand is Powerfist lol
@Sickofsociety1
@Sickofsociety1 10 ай бұрын
Man glitter....ha ha ha I've seen similar devices used in other..."settings"......they go in and out pretty quick. The stroke is ..... Never mind.
@mumblbeebee6546
@mumblbeebee6546 10 ай бұрын
That takes me back to my Interrail days, nights in rattly trains all over Europe… and the doors between carriages were no longer manual, they were super modern pneumatic.. but leaky a.f. or even worse, needle valve at the outflow was blocked, so no luck pushing them either 😂
@bumpedhishead636
@bumpedhishead636 10 ай бұрын
Do not let Dewclaw run the switch if your head is in the door path...
@freeradical6390
@freeradical6390 10 ай бұрын
I always use linear actuators where hydraulic cylinders are recommended, pneumatic cylinders in place of linear actuators, hydraulic cylinders in place of electronic servos, electronic servos in place of gate valves (except in dams), ball valves in place of flow control valves ,
@otm646
@otm646 10 ай бұрын
My first thought was electric gate actuator. That'd have the range of motion, right?
@KenLayfield
@KenLayfield 9 ай бұрын
Wondered if you would gives us video on the Baltimore bridge collision?
@954dragracer
@954dragracer 9 ай бұрын
I need that "I'm going riding" sign!!
@larrywiechman4083
@larrywiechman4083 10 ай бұрын
This calls for an air over oil circuit with flow check valves.
@bjorn1583
@bjorn1583 9 ай бұрын
so hydropneumatic
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 5 ай бұрын
We use air over oil with hydraulic cylinders for some applications. Tanks on either side for the oil to push into. Lubriplate FMO 85 VG-22. Takes the springy-ness out of it and the oil keeps the seals nice and lubricated.
@johnquinn2321
@johnquinn2321 9 ай бұрын
I had a dream that you explained why we use hydrostatic testing vs. Air/nitrogen for pressure vessels. I witnessed an explosion recently, and I’ve always been a pro-hydraulic fan. You could maybe touch on explosive hydro-forming spheres for fun, and why nobody dies. Signed by a 10 year almost welder for the mining industry, Johno
@ILEFTCAPS0N
@ILEFTCAPS0N 10 ай бұрын
It's a terrible day when your cylinder is too sticky... Or maybe it's a great day. I guess it all depends on how much time and money you have.
@frommie75
@frommie75 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see you discuss the FLA luffer climbing situation.
@Vvardenfell_Outlander
@Vvardenfell_Outlander 10 ай бұрын
Holio fuck you're alive! I knew you'd return. Welcome back. I was just thinkin' about you yesterday!
@dw7444
@dw7444 10 ай бұрын
If you really want to make it complicated and fun, use a single cylinder attached to lines going through a few pulleys just like you would with curtains or drapes. My buddy did this for a set of sliding doors he wanted to open and close like they do on star trek, it worked surprisingly well though it did open and close a little hard sometimes.
@cptbimes1
@cptbimes1 10 ай бұрын
FLUID IS FLUID.
@MattLitkeRacing
@MattLitkeRacing 10 ай бұрын
I heard a former Haas employee Guenther is looking for work. Maybe he could help you with this project?
@jfv65
@jfv65 10 ай бұрын
😅
@MattLitkeRacing
@MattLitkeRacing 10 ай бұрын
@@jfv65 I’m glad somebody got it lol
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus 10 ай бұрын
@@jfv65He better not foksmash any doors 😂
@dieselhatz4247
@dieselhatz4247 10 ай бұрын
Buying those merch t-shirts wasn’t in vain. Thanks you’ve come back, my wife said you’d left, never to return, just like she will one day 😂
@SirBoden
@SirBoden 10 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn’t buy two screw drive garage door opener’s. You could have a remote button for each door.
@boboften9952
@boboften9952 10 ай бұрын
...... what eclipse ? Your lights are on ... Your at home ... You got there ... You examined the work to be done ... ...... when is closing time ? ( no rush , no damage ..... perfect day )
@aperson7624
@aperson7624 10 ай бұрын
"We have Titans of CNC at home!"
@artur8403
@artur8403 10 ай бұрын
It needs to have high pressure on both sides and decrease pressure on one side to move. As an bonus you get better sound effects. On air pressure loss can have doors notmally open with spring valve
@dregoth0
@dregoth0 10 ай бұрын
Looks like the Town Pump CNC has a chance to become the Town Guillotine.
@dvdavid888
@dvdavid888 10 ай бұрын
Car window motor works pretty good that's what I used on my sliding back door
@dj-kq4fz
@dj-kq4fz 10 ай бұрын
I see no issues. Proceed!
@wesleyhayes1847
@wesleyhayes1847 4 ай бұрын
Heh, was wondering wtf you were doing using hydraulic parts. Glad to not be wrong:)
@countryracer69
@countryracer69 10 ай бұрын
Took a couple racing shocks. Took the valved pistons out and made some solid ones from aluminum and a couple O-rings. Welded in fittings on each end. Now I can set my race car at dynamic for testing and measuring. Look like normal race bilsteins with ball valves and an air hose fitting out the side lol.
@trog.lodyte
@trog.lodyte 10 ай бұрын
Sounds slick as a strar trek enterprise door shooshin open n closed, maybe shoulda sprung for a small electric over hydra lick pumper yoonit.
@kevincampbell4688
@kevincampbell4688 9 ай бұрын
Some sort of over centering spring loaded linkages on the door end would probably help it close softer and be alot easier to set up to reliably seal the doors.
@wallacejeffery5786
@wallacejeffery5786 9 ай бұрын
You are a hoot!!! I am crying
@BramBiesiekierski
@BramBiesiekierski 10 ай бұрын
I think the obvious solution here is instead of additional air actuators. You should instead just plum hydraulic to the hydraulic cylinders you already have. 2000psi > 200psi
@gtuning1984
@gtuning1984 10 ай бұрын
What about some bungee cords preloading them?
@necessaryevil455
@necessaryevil455 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see how you configure and power the little hammers to give them that magical tap to get them moving.
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp 10 ай бұрын
With servo's i use springs to move stuff the first and last parts. They start to push (build up tention in spring), and when they stop, the spring pushes softly to the end stop. If the servo needs to go to the end, it nevers makes it, and starts to fight. With springs the cilinder could move without tention, build up speed, remove drag, and start pushing... Try it maybe?
@vintagespeed
@vintagespeed 10 ай бұрын
back in 'dah dey (early 90s).... my buddy was one of the first guys running hydraulic cylinders with nitrogen on his old wagon. would pop right up off the ground with 3000psi. i built the cups to mount the cyls in the strut pockets. biggest problem he would have is blowing out the umbrella seals they would install to 'convert' them to air.
@pickititllneverheal9016
@pickititllneverheal9016 10 ай бұрын
How long ya need? Got multiple lengths. Also have Flo control valves.
@vintagemotorsalways1676
@vintagemotorsalways1676 10 ай бұрын
so in other words - pneumatics lol
@blackhatch46
@blackhatch46 9 ай бұрын
Or any hyrdraulic piston haha
@lhhc20
@lhhc20 10 ай бұрын
use flow control to meter out your air on each side of the cylinder it will smooth it right out.
@egx161
@egx161 10 ай бұрын
You can compress a gas but not a liquid. Hence…
@netWiz1
@netWiz1 9 ай бұрын
You can compress solids and liquids but gases are far more compressible
@gypsydildopunks7083
@gypsydildopunks7083 10 ай бұрын
5 way 3 position, I've been to that party. Hard to sit down for a couple days after.
@thejollywrencher
@thejollywrencher 10 ай бұрын
Pneumatic doodads are spooky. I enjoy it.
@TheBiffBo
@TheBiffBo 10 ай бұрын
Pneumatic quick exhaust will help with the speed control / muffles too
@crackwitz
@crackwitz 9 ай бұрын
That hissing would make me flip tables
@hayleyxyz
@hayleyxyz 10 ай бұрын
2 videos within 24hrs? You're spoiling us, AvE
@plasmahead2
@plasmahead2 9 ай бұрын
I was working with an enginerd on a fancy part for a nuclear plant one time and it had to slide over another part. I knew the proper words but called it "sticktivity" and he paused, thought for a second, and said "Fk it that works, we have to get to the right sticktivity"
@4sl648
@4sl648 10 ай бұрын
When in doubt, increase the PSI.
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the feed leg on a jackleg drill, but somehow even sketchier.
@CaptainContraption
@CaptainContraption 10 ай бұрын
A small pump pushing some lightweight fluid instead of air would make the system that you already have set up operate very smoothly. An automotive power steering pump coupled to an air motor to keep the original plan of using air. Use a T fitting in the pressure line with a ball valve as your simple pressure relief system
@jt3178
@jt3178 10 ай бұрын
A sprocket on each corner of the machine, with a chain between them ran by an electirc motor. Tie one door to one side of the chain and the other one to the other side. Voila simple system with a single motor runing both doors. A used garage door opener would be large and cumbersome but perfect for the funcrion.
@cmmotorsports9388
@cmmotorsports9388 9 ай бұрын
Haas makes an auto door kit for those machines I do believe, im just not sure if it is field installable or not
@robinmartin4464
@robinmartin4464 10 ай бұрын
Never give up, never surrender! We have faith
@julias-shed
@julias-shed 10 ай бұрын
Can you machine the piston to remove stiction? Make the Oring groove deeper so there is less squish on the Oring. 😀
@JoesWebPresence
@JoesWebPresence 10 ай бұрын
Hydraulics for precision and power. Pneumatic for bounce and breaking windows. Servos and chains would habe been my choice. Kinda like automatic curtains.
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench 10 ай бұрын
Hydraulic does have its advantages as far as positioning goes. However, one can use pressure on both sides of the cylinder, as to dampen it. The cylinder still moves when a differential pressure is provided between the two sides. However, given the sticky nature of these two cylinders then one would need a fair bit of differential pressure to work with, and add on top some backing pressure for increasing stiffness, then it very quickly ends up being a scary amount of pressure. And as detailed before, air is a much better spring than oil. So it stores a lot more energy that is always eager to escape.
@m1t2a1
@m1t2a1 10 ай бұрын
Try saying, open the pod bay door Hal.
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 9 ай бұрын
I'm a surprised, and a bit disappointed, that you didn't open the cylinders and change/modify the seals to work.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Grandpa told me about a guy that used pneumatic cylinders for the loading arms on his log splitter. Once the log was lifted and it "cammed over".. yikes. Shock and slam and herky jerky for sure.
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