Hyne's Legacy - All the Sorceresses of Final Fantasy VIII

In this video, I will cover every possible sorceress in Final Fantasy VIII. Not just the ones you know, but also the ones you may have missed.
For those asking, this video includes footage from Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VIII, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy XIV, Mobius Final Fantasy, and Dissidia Final Fantasy NT.
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0:00 Introduction
0:16 The Great Hyne
2:13 The Forgotten
2:45 Halicarnassus
4:13 Zefer's Sorceress
4:55 Adel
5:57 Rinoa Heartilly
6:41 Edea Kramer
8:27 Ultimecia
10:10 Outro

[@KumaPlays]

Couldn't help adding Halicarnassus. Everything about her screams that she belongs in FFVIII. What do you think?

[@Ranixo286]

Some people have the theory that Halicarnassus is Ultamecia...but I'd rather her be Rinoa over Halicarnassus though honestly.

[@KumaPlays]

@@Ranixo286 I have never heard of the Halicarnassus = Ultimecia theory. Huh.... I guest they both rule over a floating castle outside of time and space and have big pointy headwear. LOL! But yeah, I agree. In my head canon, Rinoa is Ultimecia. It just gives the story so much more weight in meaning in my opinion.

[@craigcj5953]

While Xerxes was overseeing the battle from his throne, which was at the foot of Mount Aigaleo, he observed the incident and he and the others who were present thought that Artemisia had attacked and sunk a Greek ship. One of the men who was next to Xerxes said to him: "Master, see Artemisia, how well she is fighting, and how she sank even now a ship of the enemy" and Xerxes then responded: "My men have become women; and my women, men." None of the crew of the Calyndian ship survived to be able to accuse her otherwise.[38] According to Polyaenus, when Xerxes saw her sink the ship, he said: "O Zeus, surely you have formed women out of man's materials, and men out of woman's.

[@RCDeschene]

@@Ranixo286 Unfortunately, Kitase debunked the Rinoa = Ultimecia theory

[@Mortified42]

Halicarnassus was a man in FF5. They genderswaped him for FF14. Also, umbral and astral eras are also not connected to anything in other games.

[@Perfect1583]

THANK YOU for pronouncing Ultimecia correctly 🙏

[@Ranixo286]

I feel like a remake or sequel would be fun to delve more into this backstory.

[@KumaPlays]

That would be amazing! I would be so happy if they did a remake of VIII. It is one of my favorite Final Fantasy games.

[@Santi_ramos35]

Glad to see how far you’ve come with your channel bro.. seeing your subs and views grow with each vid 🙌👏👏

[@KumaPlays]

Thanks a lot man! Keep up the good work yourself.

[@readyforclarity]

Haven't gotten into final fantasy yet, but I watched this whole video and wasn't bored. I figured that's a great analytical data point for you :) Thanks a whole bunch for sharing. I like deep dives into character lore possibilities. This was a good video, and you covered a lot of ground in ten minutes!

[@KumaPlays]

Thanks for sharing. That is a good data point. Glad I could make it a little interesting! If you every play I Final Fantasy game, I recommend the older ones with the turn based gameplay. Final Fantasy X is a great entry point and the last of the turn based games. I really liked eight (obviously) and everyone likes seven. But six is my absolute favorite in the series.

[@readyforclarity]

@@KumaPlays haha six is my best friend's favorite so I'm gonna try that one on GBA. I also have picked up heroes of light and the crystal Chronicles ones if I'm remembering right.

[@tokhote]

@@readyforclarity 8 is so good tho 😭

[@readyforclarity]

@@tokhote I wish it was easier to play ALL the games. I've been really enjoying games I can check in and out of for short spurts, but I feel like more story-based games and RBGs take more attention, and I need to be ready to commit and play all the way through. I'll keep a lookout for 8 too!

[@jeremyhall2727]

You did a great job

[@Arkace66]

Cool final fantasy video mate!!

[@KumaPlays]

Thanks a lot. Glad you liked it.

[@juststeve2579]

I thought rinoa became a sorceress first after the 2nd battle with Edea?.. then had Adel power after that battle which led her the only active sorceress of that time.

[@KumaPlays]

You are totally correct. Rinoa unknowingly gets powers from Edea, but neither of them were aware of that happening. However, that is what allowed Ultimecia to possess Rinoa, so it is relevant to the story. I was trying to keep the video from getting too long. So since she wasn't really aware of receiving Edea's power, I chose to say that her true powers were awakened after the fight with Adel. Great catch!

[@juststeve2579]

@@KumaPlays you know I never understood that part of the story with edea not knowing she had passed her powers to rinoa. If I remember right they said she did so because she thought she was going to die... so did she just not know because she was using Para magic due to having the party gf? But that still won't explain her access to her limit break. I wish they would explain that better lol

[@KumaPlays]

@@juststeve2579 I totally agree. I love FF8, but it is a little like cramming for a test to fully understand the plot.

[@gamesgonenuts]

great video always try to get into FF8 as I love the rest of the games in the series but have a tough time getting through this one

[@Big_Gamer672]

*I liked your content video, well done! 👍*

[@KumaPlays]

Thanks a lot! I appreciate the comment.

[@Big_Gamer672]

@@KumaPlays *Would you like if you want to leave me a visit to my channel?*

[@FinalFantasy8911debater]

Interesting video.

[@KumaPlays]

Many thanks. I appreciate you saying that.

[@MisoraRyuu0921]

Very well put video. Would you mind telling me what song you used when you talked about Ultimecia?

[@frayleaf]

What about the sorceress in Centra Ruins. There's a statue of Odin holding her dying in his arms. Either that's a different knight/sorceress pair, or maybe Odin was zephyr?

[@inugamingsuport1206]

Good morning thanks for sharing video my friend 🥰 always full suport

[@KumaPlays]

Thank you very much for the comment. Take care!

[@Joe_334]

The moment you enter disc 4, till taking down Ultimecia, just feels like a final Exam. Like everything about the game is being thrown back at you. Ultimecia dictates which three you will start with. You get junctioned magic blown away at random. You can't revive anyone if they get absorbed into time. If you take too long on the final form, Ultimecia will cast Apocalypse(which I have never seen. It fascinates me how the plot hides Ultimecia away, but from replaying it, you can see she was there the whole time through Edea, then Rinoa.

[@Mruiz0085]

I was focused on squalls story I didn’t see how much Cid and Edea sacrificed

[@hybridsnowleopard]

Ultimecia is gorgeous.

[@FF7EverCrisis]

There are so many video clips that I didn’t see in ff8. Like fight between unlimecia and squall. How do u access those in game?

[@dimitrescu4873]

Sorry my question, but after Edea is defetead didnt she pass her powers to Rinoa? Esthar tried the lockdown Rinoa just like they made with Adel (to stop the infinite circle of sorceress passing they powers to others). Them Adel drain Rinoa's power to fight (under Ultimecia's control i guess) and when she is defetead Ellone send Ultimecia's mind to her future.

[@Benigndepressedbear]

You are correct that is the technical order of inheritance / possession. But considering how much ultimacia jumps bodies in that section of the game I understand why they just simplified it to Rinoa's final possession at Lunatic Pandora.

[@VBSlinks]

I thought Ultimecia used magic to send her consciousness back in time. What technology are you referring to?

[@KumaPlays]

It is easy to miss this in the story. Dr. Odine created a piece of tech called Junction Machine Ellone. It was based on Ellone's ability to send a person's consciousness back in time. It had been perfected by the distant future era of Ultimecia.

[@invisi-bullexploration2374]

I always interpreted the final battle as Artemecia gaining knowledge and power... And realizing with this enlightenment *she was completely screwed* She would lose here. She always loses here. And then she would go around and around forever. Her attainment of godhood had sent her to a Jojo Villain tier fate. I think that weird dialogue "reflect on your childhood..." was because she had a feeble plan to try and free herself. If Squall was bought along to where Artemecia encountered Edea maybe Squall would find a way to put her down before she reached Edea and damned herself for eternity. But neither Squall or Edea can grasp this and Artimecia does what she has done over and over. And will always do.

[@jamesnesbitt2941]

You missed Ellone and her role and abilities are crucial to explaining the story.

[@MisoraRyuu0921]

I think Ellone wasn't a sorceress, just someone very gifted with the power to send conciseness back in time.

[@robertoquintero5200]

​@@MisoraRyuu0921Ellone is Ultimecia because she have the same ability

[@velvetstigma4961]

@@robertoquintero5200 Rofl no? Dr Odine created the junction machine Ellone, by studying Ellone's powers. Ultimecia uses the junction machine in the future to send her consciousness back.

[@S1EEPLES5]

This is a wild guess but what if the story of Hyne is Actually Ultima's? Like leaving his skin as in Vessel that was Clive

[@velvetstigma4961]

Lol interesting way to link it but its said specifically that Hyne hid amongst women, which is why there are only Sorceresses and no Sorcerers.

[@S1EEPLES5]

@@velvetstigma4961 oh yeah.

[@larryazear9815]

Are you trying to suggest the Hein from FF3 is the same as the one from FF8? These games reuse names all the time without it being the same character. Just look at Cid.

[@KumaPlays]

Valid point. And it is totally possible that FFIII's Hein had to do the same skin trick that FFVIII's Hyne pulled. they could be different characters. But I like to think that since Hyne goes missing after ditching his skin in FFVIII, that his skeletal body fled to the world of FFIII. It's my head canon at least.

[@rickyjayster2586]

Ultimacia is smoking hot

[@Rirede]

😜

[@KumaPlays]

Thanks for the comment!

[@vatarants]

Adel is FEMALE??

[@odinfromcentr2]

She would have to be. The sorceress power is incompatible with men for whatever reason.

[@Viper4ever05]

From the looks of it and how ugly the sorceresses were during time compression after defeating Adel, the powers have the potential of warping your appearance.

[@SorcererLance]

Amusingly, the French localization covered that by mentioning she's a hermaphrodite to explain the masculine appearance

[@user-yh9sx7he2d]

Yeah, she covers her nips, and is just magicialy roided out. Sort of like female muscle builders.

[@jeremyhall2727]

I thought she was a man my whole life. Until like, three years ago.

[@user-yh9sx7he2d]

Almasy is a Hungarian/Austrian name, and you pronounced it incorrectly.