Hytera HR652 | Compact Radio Repeater

[@Rangeland]

Check the blog post I added a detailed FAQ section. rangelandcomms.com/blogs/comms-news/hytera-hr652-compact-repeater

[@kappysflies]

Awesome video! Thanks for putting out this info

[@Rangeland]

Thanks for watching!!

[@alexander19681]

we used here in Yugoslavia in the 80's repeaters for 144Mhz

[@Subgunman]

Interesting information. On UHF frequencies I have used two antennas with a vertical separation of AT LEAST 20 feet between the top of the Tx antenna and the bottom of the RX antenna. Receive is on the top for maximum sensitivity to weak signals. Horizontal separation is useless on any frequency at any distance. You will suffer receiver desense.

[@johnbergeron5015]

What’s the gooseneck antenna on the product page?

[@Alex_robles22]

А можете написать полное название комплекта ретронслятора? Я бы купил его у Вас, но Вы наверное не отправите его в Россию. Знаю, есть компании которые занимаются отправкой товаров из США. Буду искать.

[@Rangeland]

Unfortunately we do not ship outside the US.

[@NikoSan713]

Avez vous des revendeurs en France ?

[@georgespeck8761]

can you setup the repeater for solar panels use

[@Rangeland]

Yes. You would use the included DC wire harness and wire it to a solar charge controller and then into the panel. We could set one up for you like that.

[@kilobyts5703]

How many miles ? Can you you hit the repeater ? 1 mile?

[@Rangeland]

All depends on line of site (LOS) to the repeaters antenna. There are many repeaters that can be hit from 40+ miles away. If this repeater was up on a Mountain top with good LOS in all directions you could probably hit it from 35+ miles away. If you had down in a valley, not so much. If the placement where to only get you 1 mile of range then its probably not a good placement.

[@itrstt66]

what is a time slot?

[@Rangeland]

The DMR digital protocol uses the radio spectrum more efficiently. A DMR radio splits a frequency into two time slots. This means that two conversations can occur on a channel at once. For example let's say a warehouse has a single licensed frequency to work with. With analog their radio system could only support one conversation at a time. They could use CTCSS tones to separate different talk groups but still only one conversation could he had on the frequency at a time. Now let's say the warehouse has DMR radios. Now they can have one talk group like "shipping and receiving" assigned to time slot 1 and another talk group such as "maintenance" on time slot 2. Now both groups can use the frequency at the same time. Hytera radios can also do something called Pseudo Trunking. When the radios are set to Pseudo Trunk instead of time slot 1 or 2 the radio will listen to both time slots and use whichever time slot is available. This is helpful when you have more than two talk groups that need to share a frequency. Let's say you have 4 talk groups but it is unlikely that more than 2 talk groups would need to use the frequency at any given time. In this case, you assign all of the talk groups to Pseudo Trunk and any 2 of the 4 groups can use the frequency at a given time.

[@itrstt66]

@@Rangeland wow thank you for your answer, this is clearly ahead of me, i will have to do some search to fully understand it

[@Rangeland]

@@itrstt66 Absolutely! it is also worth noting that this repeater can operate in analog mode as well. Programing DMR is a bit more complex but not much once you know what you are doing. In most cases we send these out with the handheld radios and we configure everything for the end user. Using DMR mode also gives you the ability to do encryption, text messaging, and direct calling. I will be doing a video on DMR programing in the near future.

[@itrstt66]

@@Rangeland is it proprietary encryption or is it aes256?

[@Rangeland]

@@itrstt66 All of the Hytera H series radios including this repeater come with basic encryption included with is ARC40 encryption. You can upgrade to AES-256. However, you do not need the AES upgrade to pass AES with the repeater and this is typically the case with DMR repeaters. If you want to use the repeater as a base station and want to transmit with AES from the repeater then you need the AES software license. However, if you have handhelds with AES the repeater will pass the signals with or without encryption without a the software upgrade. Encryption and decryption all happens on the user radios.

[@mosbysmen]

what is the cost

[@hexarts]

2k$ ish

[@Rangeland]

Depends on how you configure it. The battery and duplexer both add to the cost. The optional battery is expensive but it is proprietary and it's also 14V. You could save some money by using a cheap duplexer about $200 and if you need a battery you could also buy a 3rd party 12V battery to save some money. Bioenno power makes really great batteries.

[@TheAlexd51]

Just the bare repeater without nothing else $2350. Add the duplexer,power adapter and battery pack it will go up to $5000+ depending on options. A bit high up there for a dual mode repeater. I guess it has it's place but it's more of a luxury item.

[@Rangeland]

@@TheAlexd51 Its defiantly not cheap and I do wish it was offered from Hytera as a complete package rather than each component separately. Although I suppose some users may not need the battery and others may not need the duplexer. That being said, good quality commercial DMR equipment is generally not cheap. The HR652 pricing is normal when compared to other similar options. The HR652 repeater is about 2,300, a Hytera HR1062 (server rack 50w repeater) starts at around 3,100 and the Motorola SLR 5700 starts at about 3,300. The most similar comparison would likely be the Motorola SLR1000 which is a portable 10w repeater with optional internal duplexer and that starts at about 3,700 without a duplexer. So if compared to the SLR1000 you are getting an additional 15w of power and it's over 1k cheaper. All that being said, I do agree that the HR652 is not cheap but I do think it is well within the bounds of typical commercial DMR pricing.

[@TheJensss]

$550 online

[@woodchuck306]

Repeter for what? TV, FM, SW, HAM, What???

[@huntersam4028]

Anything really. It’s primarily intended for DMR voice comms, but since it does analog I’m sure you could configure it to do whatever you like

[@alpha6tango860]

People... do you own homework. The price is laughable.

[@Rangeland]

Compared to what? Repeaters are not cheap but the price of the HR652 is well within industry standards for a commercial DMR repeater. A Motorola SLR5700 comes in at around 3,300, A Hytera HR1065 comes in at around 3,100. The Motorola SLR1000, which is likely the most comparable, comes in at around 3,300 and is only 10 watts. The Hytera HR652 starts at around 2,200 with is about 1k less than any of the aforementioned DMR repeaters.

[@Mark300win]

No VHF, not worth it!

[@Rangeland]

It would be great if they produced a VHF version in the future. However, they released a UHF version because UHF is more common. I would estimate that no less than 80% of the radios we sell are UHF.

[@Mark300win]

@@Rangeland VHF is more common here in Canada because of high range and mountainous nature of the country especially the west side. Down in the US and in more flattering terrains UHF repeaters could be an option

[@Rangeland]

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[@bussi7859]

Crap

[@414RadioTech]

Ain't worth the money since it doesn't support VHF and I don't like that brand anyway they're too shity to deal with

[@Rangeland]

In my experience Hytera typically releases UHF versions first then follows up with VHF shortly after. This has been the case with many H series products. I expect a VHF version will be released. Generally the commercial radio manufactures do not deal direct to consumer you typically have to go through a dealer and I can assure you we are not hard to deal with.

[@davidjoetrammell2179]

Can this act like a analog gmrs repeater????????????

[@Rangeland]

It does cover the GMRS frequencies.

[@jaredwhite489]

Drink some water man, dam.

[@peterdeyanov5056]

Fusion, D-star, DMR, same sh*it...

[@Rangeland]

Not a fan of digital modes?

[@peterdeyanov5056]

@@Rangeland I have 3 Yaesu and one Icom, but all sounds like sh*it. DMR is not so different.

[@Rangeland]

@@peterdeyanov5056 Fair enough. DMR provides improved audio quality. In my experience most people prefer the audio quality provided by DMR compared to analog. That being said some think it sounds robotic and don't like that.

[@peterdeyanov5056]

​@@Rangeland Ha ha, improved audio quality. Nevermind. OK, man, great video. Repeater is portable, mobile, may be it's useful. We have a few reflectors, that works all modes. No need to bring repeater with me.

[@jplacido9999]

​@@peterdeyanov5056 Digital audio is horrible. Robotic is the least we can say. Only recent digital units (specially TETRA HD and recent P25) will be aceptable. GE and Motorola that conceived MASTR and similar units would die if they had to compare audios... Remember those VHF low band with their great speaker ? What a sound !!!!!