I ALMOST CRASHED the GR86 on the Nürburgring!😱

[@mgcharoudin]

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[@marvinvisser5039]

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[@mixalisstathis274]

"The all new GR86 is another hit to come out of Toyota following on from the Yaris GR." No. It's GR Yaris, not the other way around. And you know it. And I know that you know it. And you know that I know that you know it...

[@somemechanic46]

Crazy how quick you need to react when you're shredding the ring... one mistake and you can end up having the worst day of your life. Great reaction and control especially considering the amount of different cars you lap. Props brother, stay safe!

[@somemechanic46]

Not sure if you read these Misha but I figured I'd link a classic for you and the audience! After watching this it really made me appreciate how much effort has gone into refining the track. Long live the ring! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJy0nourmrx8n9E

[@deagt3388]

That was close... ;-)

[@stoneeh]

100% agreed on the verdict. Handling looks GREAT, judgding from the video some of the best I've seen - neutral, supple, stable, but still light / dynamic. You mentioned camber, but that would probably come at cost of streetability / straight line behavior. So out of the box it's probably the best balance for everyone. Brake upgrade (pads, fluid) for hard track use ofc. ESC really only did seem to kick in when needed.. I also noticed a slight regulation at 11:41. One mod that can never hurt, but doesn't have great price to value, is a switch to a LiPo battery. Less weight never ever hurts. It's ~500€ for on average ~15 kg weight saving.

[@KindOfyeah]

a tiny bit of camber really helped on the gt86. probably will do the same on the gr86

[@r129r16pfl]

500 euro for 15kg is a lot

[@RAYSGT]

2-3 degrees of camber is gonna make huge difference on track

[@Alexander.Z13]

I was the passenger on the second lap that Misha sadly didnt manage to film and also didnt want to do in the first place cause of the car getting to hot. I never drove fast vehicle and cant compare it to other cars but this little car is insane. Even though it doesnt have a huge amount of power it was insane how it just goes around corners. I filmed like 4 minutes of the second lap. If you like to, and Misha approves, i can upload it for you. Edit: Uploading it to my channel now

[@mgcharoudin]

Sure Alex, please do! It was great having you on board!

[@stoneeh]

Watched it. Nice. Always good to have different views from different recording positions and devices.. catches the experience differently.

[@x808drifter]

It's a well handling momentum car like a heavier MX5. Not quick but fast.

[@paulgilbert9346]

Please take care of my car Misha!! 😉

[@Properkunt]

I’m sure he’ll take care of your car, but not to sure regarding your pads and tires

[@that_escalated_quickly2720]

​@iNSTAGiB when 2 are arguing, the happier the third... A german saying 😉

[@ollolol7879]

Please take care my guitar Paul!! 😉

[@paulgilbert9346]

@@ollolol7879 lol. 🎸

[@filipesimoes7446]

Fuck his car Misha!

[@MrHeksas]

4:05 i like how new cars turn hazards automatically lol

[@Ultixa]

Asseto Corsa be like

[@JJsAutomotive]

2005 A6 does the same. 🤷‍♂️

[@Randyboobandy69]

Do you know if its due to ABS kicking in? I tend to always hit my hazards when i come to a fast spot like this as well.

[@PrestonTo]

@@Randyboobandy69 Most modern cars either flash their hazards or brake lights during hard braking, often before ABS starts to kick in.

[@ianmoone6562]

as long as they turn it off automatically too no biggie.

[@happycamperinc.]

Man you attacked Nurburgring pretty intensely this time. Alot of close calls. Stay safe and well done.

[@tunctoker856]

indeed good to see the heel and toe in action.. clearly globs of fun this car, and a marvelous accomplishment (especially given the price point), it's tricky to drive fast that is clear also. would be great to hear some comparisons to other cars in this class when you debrief at the end. great video thanks Misha!

[@JasonTO]

Watching Misha and taking mental notes so I can get quicker on the sim. Now I know not to take too much curb before the start/finish!

[@TheBTRGarage]

Ok that actually got my heart racing a little bit, awesome lap! After owning my GR86 for a year now and many track days, I agree this car is amazing. I am only just now starting some mild upgrades, been driving it almost stock for the past year (except for pads, fluids).

[@CommonG]

😎😎

[@jacobsimms2950]

Most important upgrade you need to do before anything is an oil cooler. Then wheels tires suspension and breathing.

[@dominolehmann8227]

well saved: quote from gr-zoo VSC (Vehicle Stability Control) TRC (Traction Control) Brake LSD function - Holding the right Track button for a second or so enters Track mode. Traction control remains on but VSC is relaxed somewhat. - PRESS the left traction control button - disables traction control temporarily until you get to about 25mph or something (if you get stuck in snow or whatnot). - HOLD the left traction control button to disable traction control fully and also enter track mode....not sure if this also completely disables VSC or just relaxes it.

[@arandomcommenter7051]

Possible slight mechanical over-rev at around 9:10, downshifting into 4 at 182 KPH lol

[@wudntulike2no32]

After driving the ND Miata with suspension mods and your GR86 you should do a comparison video. Times are great to compare but how the car feels is important as well.

[@martindeoliveira5128]

Thanks for adding the oil temp information at the end of the video. I was particularly interested in that.

[@ALIENdrifter66]

Most of the times when the brake travel becomes bigger it's brake fluid related. Pad overheat is usually detected when the pedal has to be pushed hard but the observed braking force is low

[@Kozakk_jd]

Looks like a blast to drive! Also suprised by how the ASC sounds, it doesnt sound too bad for being fake engine noise. Wonder what you'll do in terms of exhaust upgrades and what the effects are🧐

[@egorlike1324]

It sounds pretty horrible in person. I turned off it like a week after driving the car.

[@hatteras33]

Since he had the car in "normal mode" its bearable. If you switch to track mode it seems it gets louder, at least it feels that way in mine.

[@jackwicker]

@@egorlike1324 Same. It's pretty awful. It sounds like a blender lol. I turned it off, and the improvement was immediately noticeable. Installing and MRT Sport Touring Axleback brought the overall interior noise level back to where it was with the ASC enabled, but with real noise. Highly recommend that option for the price, but there are lots of good options. The HKS single exit catbacks seem pretty awesome too.

[@egorlike1324]

@@jackwicker i got the invidia n2 myself

[@Kozakk_jd]

@@hatteras33 ah i see, might also be because it's a video that it's bearable. Never experienced real life. True engine sound will always be better though

[@conorfrankland7699]

Would be interested to hear your opinion of the GR86 vs MX5 for "budget" sports car

[@dariuszcalkowski6208]

Well, at least here in UK you don't have a choice: Our most enviable coupé, the GR86, is currently sold out.

[@henriquef1639]

Mx5 is only comparable to gt86. Gr86 is one level above mx5 league

[@zevi2000]

The ND drives much better around turns, definitely more sporty. The GR is good at being a daily too while still being fun, the Miata just felt more natural around turns

[@ak740_]

@@zevi2000 with how much body roll an nd Miata has, I’ll have to disagree. The gr86 is a more serious sports car. As evident with the better track times posted by the 86 compared to the Miata

[@zevi2000]

@@ak740_ the GR has approximately 50 more horsepower, and is a foot longer. Between the added stability and the extra power it’s pretty obvious it’s gonna have a faster lap time

[@sebramski1]

great video, very nice to see you "breaking in " the car, cant wait to see it evolve! i'd start with the brakes, because you complained about them around the halfway point of the lap.

[@KiwamiJoryu]

Very professional to report the problem on the track

[@bertlzansinger]

Nice lap. Thx. Would be nice to hear about the stock power of the GR at the beginning -as we're used to in your videos. I don’t know such tings by myself.. “Tuning” of the car may concern firstly to deactivate this tedious hazard-lighting when braking hard.

[@davitavazneli3506]

gr86 is a blast in your hands or any pro driver in general. to be honest, I havent seen the list of mods, that you are going to put on the car, but if that 6th gear is a bit of a problem, there are some aftermarket final drive options to shorten the ratio. I know you might know this already but I just commented anyways :))

[@loftysforthepeople3926]

Amazing footwork! I like drifting & racing but manual car racing just seems scary to me specially that I drive with left foot braking! But after watching you, I might rethink my choices haha!

[@VasyaIvanovichPupkin]

Pleaase do.

[@JayMaverick]

Funny to see Misha in full attack mode. Zero smile, just furiously effective driving.

[@gpaje]

Love your driving, also noticed based on the cars telemetry that you are either braking or accelerating, little to no coasting, benefits of left foot braking 😊

[@mgcharoudin]

Correct!

[@samuelgomez3311]

Some drivers are equally fast without it. Depends on the driver's preferences so many of pro drivers prefer to use left foot braking of course. Probably better for maximizing record lap times but shouldn't be too much difference between both. Well, depends on the demands of track too

[@CouckeKenzo]

I don’t have a lot of time anymore to watch KZbin video’s since I have a kid now, but the GR86 vids got me hyped!

[@fanaticracer1202]

That sound of the gr86 is amazing wow. Nice content again 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@FlorjanVidovic]

I could smell the brakepads. Last time i was at nurburgring i had new discs and brakes they ware on fire after one spirited lap. Brakes are a must upgrade for any 86/brz that is beiing tracked

[@statesidesupercars]

Very good reactions 🙏

[@elyssesmagcaling]

you can turn on a beeping noise for when you want it to beep at whatever RPM you want

[@inaNis_]

Personally that engine noise has to go. If you guys end up doing exhaust, would you do equal or unequal length headers?

[@mgcharoudin]

Probably keep them stock atm tbh

[@inaNis_]

@@mgcharoudin stock is good too, just the fake engine noise is very distracting in my opinion, if you could get rid of it that would be cool

[@TheRizzler_1]

6:10 what does missing camber mean here, like not enough negative? is this something you aren’t able to adjust on the stock GR 86? (Genuine question)

[@rubenhernandezdorta6205]

It's so nice you called it in, real nice thank you

[@shibaspeed]

Looking forward to see which upgrades you go with for the car

[@mikeh.748]

I think that GR86 just got a good taste of what you’re all about Misha. Round one goes to Misha. I’m not sure but I think I heard it just say it likes how you drive when Megi is in the car. “Brakes brakes, can we get some brakes please?”

[@Tristanbirdyt]

Absolutely love your videos. Keep up the incredible work Misha. Thank you

[@lukasaustria9529]

the GR86 , even in the colour i bought it , still waiting for it to arrive 😄 good driving , nice safe!

[@AmitKumar-78604]

Love the video bro, amazing work!🎉

[@JC7119]

Obviously brakes, suspension, ect are the usual must fixes, but compared to the GT86 is the absolutely massive torque dip gone? I remember having to do so many modifications to get rid of the torque dip on top of solving suspension issues for my friends cars.

[@mgcharoudin]

Yes, that annoying dip is gone!

[@pjay5804]

6:04 I have a question, so when you did hard braking, why did the hazards go off flashing?

[@TurboInstynkt]

It's a safety feature to let others know that you're doing emergency breaking.

[@alexanderklimov3769]

Does it have a torsen diff? What is your opinion about torsen diff on a track? Is it much worse than platted lsd? Thanks.

[@RCXDerp]

I hear plated is better if you will actually maintain it

[@Morpheus87-XT]

Ich liebe dieses Auto. Bin einmal Probegefahren. Das beste Fahrerlebnis meines bisherigen Lebens. Ich bin deutlich PS-stärkere Autos gefahren, aber keines hat so viel Spass gemacht wie der GR86 😍 Jetzt müsste ich nur noch so gut fahren können wie du 😉 freue mich immer auf jedes neue Video!!!

[@UnboxRacing]

Have you tried the GR86 in Asetto Corsa? My new favorite, but the mod I have is RHD. Great driving big man.

[@mgcharoudin]

Haven't

[@UnboxRacing]

@@SuperGeronimo999 yes that's a good point you can tune that one easily. I remember the daily race at Alsac, lots of fun.

[@anyau]

maybe some tubing to redirect the bumper air into the brakes will help

[@richiv98]

What are must haves for the GR Yaris to increase the performance on street and track?

[@Theologuomgr]

Why you didn't enable the shifting buzzer so you know exactly when to change gears?

[@joshbedo8291]

cool seeing the foot pedals in this one didnt realize you used your left foot for the brake watching your driving has helped me get smoother in iracing haha

[@Joolz1982]

Thanks for GT86, GR86 traction info, sorry we cannot get GR86 here in the U.K. I see GR86 also still gets hot oil. Interesting to hear more about handling etc and after brake mods. Oh and that coolant must have been very unnerving.

[@lookship]

So tempted to hop in one of these. My old GT86 was brilliant, but the power delivery was so flat. This looks pretty much spot on.

[@staLkerhu]

I heard this one is pretty flat too, someone said in a video even the new MX-5's power delivery feels like a lot more exctiting. This is just one opinion tho, and I don't know the truth.

[@datboibazzle2117]

Awesome video as usual Misha, Any plan to drive a MK2 Focus RS?

[@mgcharoudin]

No plans, but would happily do it

[@viktorjohansson86]

Hi Misha! I was thinking about the camera filming the speedo, what if you place a camera on the sidewindow, or would that be in the way as well? I know that schmee does that sometimes

[@mazdaspeedrx8]

1st time watching a full lap of really any track and I noticed cars who are about to get passed pulls to the side and slows down while flashing their hazards. I am assuming this is etiquette? Never been on a track or ran any auto X so I'm a bit curious

[@MahmoudAlrais]

Watching you drive makes me relax.

[@JoseCruz-zo3sg]

Misha I love you see you driving! No breaks no problem keeps pushing ahahaha ! lets go GR86!

[@RosskoPeeko]

Living proof that you don’t need power to go fast.

[@BruBrusmayhem]

Id be curious for you to try a BRZ in comparison ! The Subaru has aluminum suspension knuckles and arms with a slightly different geometry . The most obvious would be the rear sway bar being attached to the chassis of the Subaru instead of the rear subframe on the GR86 ! So far amateur drivers that have tried both are reporting the GR86 being more and while the subaru seems to be more ! Nonetheless, very good video and amazing cars. We are so lucky that Toyota and Subaru are producing those affordable entry-level racers today !! What a platform !

[@staggabob]

This didn't age well...

[@phyll24]

can you get rid of brakefade on a light car with just a pad and disc upgrade? On my last track day i barely noticed any fade because I had better discs and pads at the front, but wondering how it would work on the ring.

[@Jon4670]

Toyota released the GR quick shifter on the online configuration for the gr86 in the US. I think that would be a good first mod for your car.

[@mikewilliams6049]

That active sound speaker is drone City. Can barely hear you over it.

[@simproracing9372]

Mate I am going to buy one soon, can you please tell me any suggestions in terms of suspensions, brakes etc. I also wanted to use it for track days. What do you think about front and rear wing does it need more downforce, body kit and wheels radial 17-18-19” thanks in advance

[@N2theIzzle]

Question, do ur blinkers come on when your abs is activated? I never saw a car do that before. Weird.

[@nikoyannaros48]

I'm also curious to see how the esp is going to handle different wheels and different suspension. I'm not sure if my dacia dokker likes the different wheels and the shorter springs that i've put. Maybe it is because I'm trying to figure out the limit of the car. In fact, the esp slows the car down drastically. It is a true fun break. Sometimes, it is kicking really hard in which I find dangerous. Especially when I switch quickly from one turn to the other. Steering like you and correcting the line my dokker doesn't like that at all. I mean it is not a sports car which is clear.

[@12345678939218]

Is a nice plataform to start, you are right, engine is good and the chassis is great Im waiting for more. Thanks.

[@sdgsdgsdg54]

how do you downshift and trailbrake at the same time? or do you first downshift and after that - trailbrake? How do you trailbrake during a short braking period? do you heel-toe and trail-brake at the same time?

[@mgcharoudin]

Yes

[@natearendas2549]

Would love to drive one of those. I have the first year BRZ (2013) so almost the same car, and the first thing I did was update the brakes. Stock brakes can't handle a 15min session on track. And the TC is obnoxious lol, would be nice to see how much improved the newer ones are

[@blacksilver877]

Try to deactivate the ESP. On my car if i use it it kills the brakes. They are already overheated in Wehrseifen. With ESP of no problems with brakes at all.

[@devirkesici7096]

Misha some cars have excessive RTV sludge at the oil pick up tube at the oil pan you may want to check it

[@Sinancan93]

I would mount the gopro camera elsewhere to be honest. Maybe passenger seat and make to look to the dash to the left. And then in the edit zoom the picture in

[@Giofear]

Hey Misha, would you prefer GR86 or the facelifted hyundai i30n ? I kinda feel that these are similar category cars.

[@081588101]

Oh boy, a Touristenfahrer´s worst nightmare...

[@nikemie1]

What type of brake pads do you recommend for a Mercedes GLE W167. Tanks

[@peterhansert4245]

5:30 what happened here? Why you cut him so damn close while having 1-2 car lengths on the left?

[@mgcharoudin]

Look at the future trajectory. If I'd be more on the left right nedt to him, I'd be in the grass 1 second after.

[@peterhansert4245]

Fair enough but you kept staying on the GAS for some time getting closer to him, could've lifted whole time and perform a more safe overtake since this is normal tourist day and always expect the worst from others. Either way great video as always!

[@tocsa120ls]

3:42 I just realized this car has a clutch delay valve. Well, add that to the modifications list.

[@gp5.082]

Would you say the 86 is the best platform for track use? For regular people can afford. Thx for all videos really appreciate

[@mgcharoudin]

Absolutely. Heavily considering buying another one for "myself" after the giveaway of this one. Fell in love with it.

[@gp5.082]

@@mgcharoudin thank you for your responses and videos, always appreciate. Be safe and good luck to you

[@damnthiccassboye7138]

i have a question , why do you use the left foot to brake???

[@mgcharoudin]

To minimise the time between brake/acceleration and have optimal weight transfer

[@damnthiccassboye7138]

@@mgcharoudin oo okay thx i didnt know that :)

[@bobbyyu530]

You can set the buzzle sound on in the car system then you could know when to shift by sound!

[@mgcharoudin]

Oh!

[@BauregardSenior87]

Love that high revving engine, looks like a really fun car to drive and also slightly practical!

[@ddsgardening7437]

Just wondering why do the hazard light keep coming on?

[@TheRizzler_1]

Thanks for the video on the GR86, looks like a fun car!

[@AmirPomen]

That "fujiwara takumi" like analysist and precaution saves the day 🤘💪

[@AmirPomen]

As for brakes, i reckon getting oem sti impreza brembo brakes will be the best budget brake upgrades... Easier to source and plenty of pad choices as well

[@peyotrip]

i had previous model, and i always had feeling that it needs better brakes

[@rjnation5042]

Great lap, I'm glad you picked 4th gear big fella, Rj in Oz

[@alexeyk3149]

Did you drive with ESP off and TC on? Or was the ESP full on?

[@AlexanderIsaev-rq9dm]

Misha, the quality of your video is getting better and better. Very cool and fast lap. So immersive that it was scary in a couple of moments😅 Thank you for these feelings✌

[@62Sketch]

So funny to see people watch these videos and try to compare cars, when it's very clear that driver and track familiarity is by far, big time by far, the most important factor.

[@arash20007]

for how many km did you break the engine before going on the track?

[@stantrisinhro]

Hello Misha! How would you compare stock GR Yaris to GR86 as a sports car, or to be more fair, as a product? To me, as a spectator, Yaris seems to be more focused machine.

[@RCXDerp]

They are completely different

[@stantrisinhro]

@@RCXDerp So, do you mean that GR86 is in fact just GR line 86 and has nothing to do with Gazoo Racing what so ever?

[@agnttgr]

Hello Misha! How did you figure out that car needs more camber? I can imagine that driver can figure out what kind of toe angle he needs through feeling front and rear rotating capability, but what signals you that this camber isn`t enough?

[@Magic_Vince]

You can feel the lack of camber (=grip in this case) on one axle compared to the other. And you can quickly see the wear on the outside shoulder of the tires

[@380Scania]

Nice lap and nice to see you calling in the coolant on the corner. Don’t you scratch my car now😂😂

[@2kostasd]

Love your pedal work!

[@ZdanoG6]

That sound speaker is tragedy :( :( But stock car and tyres, very good handling. Good job toyota

[@Tazovskyy]

Is it really hard to heel and toe in a manual cupra? I find the pedals far away, it s just My feeling?

[@mgcharoudin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2nJg5KZh95roNU

[@ioannisioannou7518]

Great vid as always Misha, and loved this one more as a '22 BRZ owner. Having tracked it stock @ Road Atlanta to get a sense of baseline was equally impressed with platform capabilities at 10/10's. The car is a poem at 8/10's mountain driving where it punches well above its weight. Agree oem brakes as well as 0w20 oil getting hotter than comfortable on track are achilles' heel... mb front camber as well as basically 0 camber in the front from factory. Can't wait to see how you go about modifying yours! tschüss :)

[@TheMx5Channel]

Great video and lap! I might wanne buy a GT/GR 86 one day because the mx5 starting to feel a bit dated for me i would love something new. But with the pricing atm, so manny budget sports cars cost so much :(

[@MikeAngel06]

why not using track mode? Is it normal to not use it on track?

[@Kevinmagendans]

U could use an obd2 bluetooth dongle and use a rev counter in one of the apps :D

[@dezpotizmOFheaven]

"Mutkurve" has it's name for a reason already. That thing is scary even in all dry condotions! And now imagine comming around and suddenly having your wheels on a wet trail. 😳

[@BBRKen]

yes it dose drive in rain that is wet this car is having fun in rain because of that it is rwd gr86 and they also driven at snow

[@nycpigeon19]

Mischa you got to do a breakdown eventaully of only the G-meter in the front dash!!! would be neat to do a turn by turn breakdown between stock and modded of the cornering speeds and the Gs you encounter.... Dawaj

[@martonkovacs987]

what kind of pad are you going to use?

[@luisggh9309]

Un coche precioso y efectivo.Probablemente de los últimos coupés que tendremos desgraciadamente. Gracias por tus vídeos.👍👍

[@Craig_Barker]

I absolutely love Toyota and Mazda interiors, one of the best imo