I ALMOST took this Saw Back. // RIDGID & Delta Dual Bevel Sliding Miter Saw Review

[@ShopNation]

12" Dust Chute: bit.ly/3kd8c2S 10" Dust Chute: bit.ly/3QCbJDO or print your own! 12" Dust Chute (digital files): bit.ly/3Qzi6rH 10" Dust Chute (digital files): bit.ly/3vYVHKX

[@lancebrown396]

$45 for a piece of plastic are you kidding me

[@pawan-ru9qf]

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[@WendtKyle]

The links to the digital files is no longer working, have they moved?

[@gatorhwk68]

@@WendtKyle I’d like to know as well. I’m guessing they were pulled. Guess I’ll design my own, but make it easy to remove for certain cuts.

[@karenmitchell6814]

I think showing the blade deflection across a bunch of saws in this category was a great contribution to this discussion.

[@michaelhooper9729]

How did he get all the saws to show us this??

[@Traqr]

@@michaelhooper9729 13:28 He bought them.

[@jjohnson8977]

Most of these miters deflect. If you don't want deflection. Get one of those 2000 lb radial arm pro shop saws

[@Traqr]

@@jjohnson8977 Or a Mafell ERIKA, except it doesn't rotate in place so it's not really a one-to-one tool. It does completely isolate the carriage from the user's clumsy handling though so there's no way to deflect the blade in "chop-saw" operation. It's also a ~$4,000 tool.

[@Alex-uh1mj]

Kapex has pretty much none.

[@RT-tn4ry]

Retired cabinet maker here. This review is top tier. I LOVE that your display area is spotless and totally dust free for the video creation. You are very articulate and your explanations are dead nuts on. I was in business for forty years doing high end work in Boston. So so professional you are ( do in Yoda voice ). I wish all of KZbin videos were of this quality. And the way they have designed the movement arms these days is amazing.

[@HealthyConnectionThe]

So, yes. He's nailed it. Or sawed it, or whatever. Anyway, I think DPEC should be paying him for this spot on review. I called Ridgid seeking information about the R4241, and they referred me to Delta. I was fortunate enough to get a support gentleman who knew his history regarding the power tool company evolution. Everything this review list is accurate. Kudos to his producer. 👍😉

[@bretthollenbeck812]

Great review! As an owner of the 12” Delta Cruzer model, I have to agree with each point you made, both the good and bad ones. I am also the owner of the dust chute you designed and am incredibly happy with it! It does make a huge difference in dust control. I no longer get a blast of saw dust in my face when I use it. I was so bad that I got to the point where I was always looking for a suitable alternative to the miter saw when a cut was needed, just to avoid the dust. Now I go straight to the miter saw with no hesitation. Thank you so much for that!

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I do not see that as a professional tool. Maybe for a framer. But it's made to fit on a workbench easy which isn't where framers work... From a professional standpoint I would go with the Bosch for the money or the Kapex (gulp) for the quality of cut. From a homeowners standpoint. This would lead me to still want to hire a professional for anything critical. Which might be exactly what you're looking for! I use the Bosch. I saw it as a game changer when it came out. Our company picked one up 10 years ago it seems when we landed a big hardwood job. It's been a workhorse! It even survived a car accident with minimal damage.

[@damonmoran9462]

I’m heading over to HD this afternoon to pick up the 10” version that I ordered online a few days ago. I just couldn’t pass up the $299 sale price. At first I was a bit nervous watching this review, but now I feel encouraged that I made a good choice given my needs. Thanks!

[@gregmislick1117]

Great Review as you always do! Your honesty is the best part of your reviews - you don't sugar coat anything. Thanks!!

[@1975oldschool]

Great video! After having a sliding miter saw for years and finding out all will have deflection, I use it less and less and use my table saw for the perfect 90 degree cuts I need. If I had to do it over again, I think I'd just buy a chop saw (save the room and space) to do my rough cutting (and flip over if I need to) and use the TS to get my final pieces. Really the only thing the sliders have going for is convince at that point.

[@mgscheib]

What a difference it makes to get an honest end user review. I have been a long time viewer of your channel and really enjoy your content. Go Vols!

[@seanbrotherton542]

I have the 12 inch Bosch. I think the deflection is something you overcome with technique. I make it a point to be "easy" on the grip and chop instead of grabbing the handle like it's an arm wrestling contest. I do agree with your comment and others should also be aware. Even the Bosch and Festool saws arent really the best options for a glue line cut but they are both impressive machines. Dust collection is lousy (I think it's a rule for miter saws to have crappy dust control) but they are amazing saws. Noted the Festool does have the best factory dust collection as I'm told by other woodworkers at least until we have your version for the Bosch! Great review and awesome content! Shop greatness achieved!

[@audioleech]

I'm a cabinetmaker. I've tried several of these robo arm chop saws. They all have less accuracy/more wobble than a traditional rail guided saw. Would not recommend.

[@srmofoable]

As another Bosch owner I agree with everything you said here. When I first got mine I was really bummed about all the deflection from the video reviews I kept finding when looking for dust collection. At the end of the day I realized it's not sloppy loose fit so the saw won't just give random cuts. It's deflection and a a general rule I just don't push on handles sideways hard enough to select the saw

[@audioleech]

And making all your cuts on a table saw isn't always practical like Sean said. No one wants to cut crown moulding on a table saw

[@mustangjim4951]

Hands down the best and most honest review of a miter saw I've seen. By someone who actually used the miter saws, knows the features and flaw, not just cut a few boards. Great points and tips. I wouldnt of thought about the miter clearance left to right being an issue. 👍

[@gacifres1]

You scared me when I saw your video title. I just bought the R4251 and installed your dust chute. Love the saw and the dust chute works great! Thank you Travis!

[@willofthemaker]

I have had the delta 10" cruzer for a couple years. I love it. Never had any problems with it and have been cutting a lot of aluminum (with the right blade). It hardly needs any force to cut so just glide the blade down and no deflection.

[@StevenHunlow]

Got to say that I appreciated all of the work (and expense) you undertook to make this video. Your shop is immaculate which speaks to what you demand out of your tools and so I feel comfortable that you 1) know what you are talking about and 2) are not biased by free tools from a given supplier. Thanks. Guess that your comment about not having this saw in a cabinet shop clearly lands me in the "hobbist" set.

[@alexrobles7744]

Thank you so much for the honest and open review. It helped me feel comfortable with my purchase. You were logical with you review and I appreciate it.

[@robertclark5752]

Thanks for your time. Your reviews are fair to the consumer and the manufacturer.

[@731Woodworks]

Great stuff! Very good video. I had a similar experience with the Delta I had.

[@woodworksbygrampies1284]

Hola Matt! I've seen your review videos as well. Take care sir! 👊

[@lucasjw]

Great video - really like your ability to fairly compare this unit for what it is (a miter saw) and not set an unrealistic standard that no miter saw meets, especially in regard to deflection. Really looking forward to your comparison video!

[@sage4140]

A fantastic review, your explanation is suburb. Thank you for a great experience watching your honest opinion and easy going, easy to understand review.

[@JimHester]

I have owned the 12" Delta Cruzer (26-2251) since November 2020, and I concur with every bit of this, including the awesomeness of the dust collection chute he designed.

[@docghines]

His Dust Chute is great. I did have to make one modification to it, though. He has you use shelf liner at the front edge, and it worked fine for me while I was using my shop vacuum. Then, I upgraded to a 1.5hp dust collector, and the shelf liner would get sucked up into the chute. So, I had to duct tape a piece of copper wire to the front edge to hold it in position/shape.

[@ShopNation]

A thicker materials works well too, almost like a thin rubber seems to be stiff enough to resist collapsing

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

I sold my delta cruzer 12" and bough the bosch glide 12", and I experience very similar drawbacks on both models. Then I come to the reliazation that I should not use miter saw for finish cuts for funiture pieces. Track saw or table saw is more suitable for cross cut wide pieces depending on the situation. Miter saw for rough dimensioning is such a great tool.

[@stevehoffman3341]

in my shop I use my non slider dewalt for miters on molding, baseboard, and other trim. so if I get one of these I need a good degree of accuracy when the motor is locked in place. it would be nice to have the extra capacity on occasion, but the deflection is making me hesitate on adding one of these to my shop.

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

@@stevehoffman3341 I might do the same next.

[@robertholt6444]

I love this saw. I replaced my Dewalt DWS779R with the Ridgid 12" to save space. I wouldn't call it an upgrade but it worked for me. I was also hit with the bottom miter pivot issue on my miter station. The plans I got from your site that I also love. Luckily I had the room to move the left side of the station over so that's what I did then expanded the center an extra 8". That fixed the pivot issue. Your dust upgrade keeps it much cleaner than when the Dewalt was doing the cutting. It's funny I bought that saw to save space and ended up using more space in my shop. Oh well, it worked out okay and I'm happy.

[@chrissewell1608]

Great review. I have had the Dewalt 780, for several years, and it works great for average garage work, around the home, and job site. I love it, and it will last me for years. But the new sliding arm technology is pretty great, for a bench mounted system. Thanks for this detailed review, and the info. On that other dust collector attachment!

[@purtis99]

DeWalt is only 3.00 in depth longer

[@chrissewell1608]

@@purtis99 Ah... Well my saw is on the mobile stand, so it fits almost anywhere. The problem is, it does get buried in the garage, behind other crap in the floor.

[@weirdprojects607]

Travis, I had the same issue as you with being unable to swing my miter saw to full miter deflection, but I came up with a relatively simple solution. I removed the top surface material from my cabinet and reinforced the upper mounting area of the cabinet, then attached some mounting blocks to the underside of the surface material. I installed 8” (200mm) soft close drawer slides I found on Amazon between the new cabinet reinforcements and the surface mounting blocks so my work surface will slide out and give me the clearance I need. If you get the soft closing type of slide, it does a nice job of holding the saw in the “normal” position for the vast majority of your work. I added two additional holes and put a pin on each side of the front to lock it out in the full open position for when I’m doing my full twist miter cuts. And I don’t know if it’s necessary, but I used 2 slides per side for a total of 4 to give me the most “solid” feel to the sliding surface. I hope that helps! Keep pursuing shop greatness!

[@cindyhammack68]

That was my thought about the drawer slides. I'm actually working on a workbench that will have about 6 spaces to mount tools to. But, I'm mounting all the tools on platforms and attaching the inside drawer slides to all of the tools so I can take them on and off as needed along with a plain solid platform if you're not using a tool in that spot. Using under the workbench for tool storage cabinet that will have outer drawer slides. Just a way to double or triple work space instead of multiple bases on wheels so you can move them around.

[@TWO515TY]

That skit about dust collection was hilarious. Thanks for the great reviews on these saws.

[@jeffkowalski4936]

You’ve devoted yourself to every woodworkers nightmare and we thank you! Please take on table saws next. My rigid ts3650 was horrible till I got dirty with a new design while still making it look factory. Great series of videos! A lot of work here and it’s noticed.

[@randygrebel1539]

Very impressive! Clean, concise and well detailed. Oh, and funny as well. Learned a lot and will use this for my purchase decision.

[@tomvetterani9653]

Travis - as always, a great review. You've covered the current field of low-end mitre saws (for the masses) while giving viewers what they need to make an informed decision on what to purchase. I think you dust collection undertaking is admirable, and you've given people a much better solution that the manufacturer, and something they can live with long term. Keep 'em coming!

[@aoe2geek]

Hell of a review. You just convinced this hobbyist woodworker to get this saw. I actually got the 779 and returned it because it was absolutely massive. I was going to buy a regular non sliding miter but I knew in the back of my head I’d regret not being able to do wider cuts which would inevitably come up

[@shaunanderson2973]

Great info. Just pulled the trigger when it was at $399. I'll be grabbing the plans to print the dust chute today as well. Great work!

[@philwoodard5439]

Thanks - this was very useful as it aligns with how I would use a miter saw.

[@SaltyMedia801]

The clamp works fine if you use it the right way, You slide it down to meet the piece and then tighten it down.

[@jamesbradley7079]

Well done. I just got my first Dewalt 13 inch planer, a cabinet saw is next, then the new compound sliding miter saw. This video really helped. Love your content man. Keep up the good work!

[@Golgafrinchamdent]

Thankyou for shouting out the overall weight & dimensions. That's very important to alot of your viewers including me.

[@kenpumphrey1068]

Your video is 2 days to late! I bought the ridged 10 inch, but I was aware of the short comings. Still a huge upgrade over my old Ryobi. Looking forward to trying out your dust collection solution. Thanks for doing all the leg work for us.

[@kristicoleman5103]

Would love for you to make a dust collection chute for the dewalt saw. I work in my garage as well and it would be a game changer for me. Great video as always.

[@scottstarek4996]

Yes, please!!! Save us dewalt users from the dust nightmare!!!! I'd buy one yesterday if it was available!

[@balzacq]

Me too!

[@ricolasvilla]

Woooo! Can't wait for it!!

[@drobinson-tu4zh]

Do it. Do it. I’ll buy one the second it becomes available.!

[@ethanshannon1840]

The DeWalt and Hercules have the same dust chute. I’d buy one for each of mine. DeWalt in the shop and the Hercules to lug around to job sites.

[@weege5.45]

I work in a cabinet shop, we have two pneumatic pop up saws for cutting length with tiger stop for consistent lengths. We rarely do miters in have frames, and if we do it's on a rip cut for an island and we use a table saw for that. One guy does custom molding, floating shelves, and railings. He uses a DeWalt sliding miter saw for that. (I have a Ridgid 4222 in my so at home).

[@BLBlackDragon]

NIce overview. I haven't had a real need for a miter saw, so I'm holding off, and having a good review will help when the time comes. Will be interested in any comparison video you put out.

[@chrisnash2154]

Loved the video. Loved the dig on Festool Aficionados. I was impressed with your dust collector for the Rigid saw and it’s great to know you’re creating them for others. I am particularly interested in what you come up with for Bosch.

[@Bannanabread04]

Hell yes, bought the dust chute before the video was over. Glad there is a solution!

[@JJPetro]

I have the 12" Delta Cruzer and absolutely love it. Agree with you on all points, great saw.

[@koreywilliams4570]

Having used a DeWalt miter saw for 2 years that shadow line is the best feature ever. I absolutely love that little light.

[@nielsentrainingandconsulti339]

That shadow feature would be something I would fall in love with for sure!

[@novareenterprises]

Good sir, this here is a quality video from beginning to end. We are shopping for a new miter saw with the "bendy" arms and was shocked to see the price increase on the Deltas. We had no idea the Rigid version existed. We now have our new saw, and we now know where to go for the dust collection improvement attachment. Well done and thank you.

[@scottmorris4914]

Great video. Thorough and compete. I have the Dewalt, and struggle trying to get the cuts I want. So I use it for rough cutting down to size and then my tablesaw for the cuts I want.

[@jimwiskus8862]

The only bone I have to pick with Travis is he is a hell of a good carpenter, craftsman, all around smarter than I will ever be. I did sign up for a 3D printing class this Sunday. Everything is totally free as far as the class. Just show up! I cannot wait for your upcoming comparison on these types of saws. In closing don’t be so hard on yourself these are the decisions that will continue to push the growth of your wonderful channel. See you in the next installment!

[@simonmarcoux5879]

I shall mimick your way of picking bone with people. Enjoy the 3D printing class and keep making! 3D printing is incredible!!

[@CARyan08]

Nice work here. Loved the meeting skit for the dust collection design. 40 years in big corporate makes that skit hilarious.

[@noconz0727]

I love my Metabo 7-1/4" sliding miter saw. It has an unbelievable 13" cut capacity with forward arms so it takes up less room. Crazy expensive, yes... But a standout in it's class. Over the years I've realized it's the only miter saw I need for my workflow since I'm never crosscutting timbers over 2" thick on a miter saw.

[@noconz0727]

Milwaukee and DeWalt for reference only have an 8" cut capacity. I can easily cut through 2x12's or 8" siding at more than 45 degrees. Anyone who has done siding with a miter saw can appreciate the convenience of being able to make these cuts accurately.

[@Bobbyg2018]

I have that 12" Ridgid. Perfect for my needs. I already have the dust chute improvement, just haven't installed it yet. Love the onion guy!

[@woodworksbygrampies1284]

Onion guy could be my identical twin separated at birth! 😂😂😂

[@thomascarhart928]

Super video just shared this with my brother who is about the purchase the 12” saw Thanks for the information Tom in Massachusetts

[@NoahTom]

Thanks! Been waiting for this dust collection fix for a while! Just ordered on etsy, can't wait to install it!

[@FassEddie]

Great cutaway to the dust collection team’s failure! That skit took extra work and editing time. Bravo!

[@johnlytle6633]

Thank you for this video. It inspired me to tackle the biggest dust generator in my shop…the ROUTER! I made a dust collector for my Dewalt DW618. It works well with my Porter Cable dovetail jig. I’ll be testing in other applications.

[@logeox]

To use the added cut capacity, you take off the upper portion of the fence and your board rest on that and the U Shaped area in the rear.

[@joeladam742]

Thanks for letting us know about the sale. I have been looking at this saw for a while and waiting for a sale to come around

[@baddog4347]

Put my delta 12 in storage because the dust was ridiculous but hopefully you’ve came up with the answer and when I order your dust chute I can bring it back out👍

[@James_Hande]

I've only used shop saws (miter saws) on job sites basically for repeat framing cuts and trim cuts. For my home shop I setup decades & decades ago I went with the dreaded radial arm saw, then a table saw and then a thickness planer and drill press. I will never replace my radial arm saw, it is so versatile. Thanks for sharing.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Radial arm saws are way better than chop saws for repeated cuts. I used to use them in a cabinet shop

[@MadMonk67]

I sold an old Craftsman radial arm saw a few years back because I just didn't have room for it. Man, I miss that saw. It was awesome.

[@James_Hande]

@@MadMonk67 Sorry to hear that. I made sure I was able to have room for my radial arm saw on one wall and my table saw in the middle of the room. I just couldn't live without it. My son thought I should get rid of it and down size to a chop saw. Once I showed him everything I could do with it he quickly realized I should keep it.

[@timprince731]

Excellent review. When you are done with this series, I would be interested in purchasing one of the Delta saw's you my be offloading.

[@zeusbarragan4892]

Very cool comparison of the saw’s. Thanks for putting this together.

[@rexmasters1541]

I have the older model of this Ridgid saw and its been amazing. More than 10 years old and it has never had a single issue. The batteris still work for the laser marking.

[@milkymakes1]

Very nice. Can't wait for the comparison video. Been looking at the Ridgid and the bosch. Big difference in price.

[@wesbuckley5535]

If you are up for it, the Makita front rail system saws are pretty awesome. I have a 10" 36V dual bevel front slider. Still has rails but the rails are in front, rather than sticking out the back.

[@charlieodom9107]

You could buy 2 of these saws and still have money left over for that price. Lol

[@wesbuckley5535]

@@charlieodom9107 ok, so then buy the corded version. My point is, there is a happy medium between "affordable" and "festool". I opted for 10 inch rather than 12 for the decrease in price, weight, and footprint.

[@MonsterGuitars]

Fantastic review! I live in New Zealand where they don't even sell Rigid tools. But I was drawn in all the same.

[@sealtechblades]

I'm a professional carpenter and bought the 12" Delta Cruiser a few years ago. I LOVE it!!! The weaknesses of the saw I make up for with my 20+ years of experience and my favorite part of this saw is how effortless using the saw is compared to the traditional sliders that need large gorillas to operate them after the slides get clogged.

[@TheUncontainedChastains]

Dude I’m super stoked that you are working on a better dust collection for the Bosch. Thanks for doing that and I will be buying one, once you get it worked out.

[@Toyotajunkie]

I used an old Craftsman 10" miter (dual bevel) for years. It has much worse blade deflection than any you showed. But managing it was possible through technique. Like you said, you should NOT be fighting the tool. Let it do the work for you. Great video, and I am definitely looking forward to a comparison that actually includes three brand/models I am interested in purchasing next. Thanks!

[@ibdrummin82]

I do believe the Ridgid or Delta 10 or 12" saw you just reviewed will be my next miter saw. Thanks for the info. Been wanting this style for a while. Great video. Thx

[@DTRA1N]

Commenting to support the channel! Awesome miter saw detail. Thanks!

[@Gorango27]

I look forward to your dust collection solution for the Bosch 12" Miter Saw, as that is the one I own.

[@jjohnson8977]

That clamp that is included with saw is for a reason. Some day your going to get kick back and learn the hard way the reason for that clamp. Remember safety 3rd

[@3rd_stall]

Make sure you get a zero clearance throat plate in there. Will reduce your tear out. 👍 for the very accurate power tool Inc portion.

[@gilbertgaska7357]

I had not seen the new type slide mechanism. I really like the 12” version. Deflection is definitely reduced with technique. “Let the tool do the work”

[@joemingioni]

I am definitely in for a revised dust collection solution for the dws779/780. Looking forward to it!

[@LogoBallers]

I have the 10" Ryobi sliding miter. Normally it is $269, but home Depot had a really good sale on it for $140. (2 years ago) Can't beat that price.!

[@JWar949]

I wasn't looking for this vid.... Thanks KZbin. But it was excellent! Very well done and informative. Thanks!

[@justinRoo88]

I had the same issue with miters. With the saw set in the work bench. So what I did to fix this was make it slide forward with some heavy duty sliders. Works good i can pull it forward when I need to make those steep miters. And push it back when I need to .

[@HalfAcreFarms]

I recently purchased the 12” Ridgid R4222 model saw. I unboxed it, set it up on Ridgid MSUV and thought everything was great. I literally made two cuts and I started having a problem with the blade brake. The blade would not stop rotating. Not to mention it is a huge saw. I liked it, but I didn’t like having something wrong with it right from the get go, so I ended up returning it last week. I had been seeing videos for the Ridgid R4251 . It was on sale on HD website for $379 . The only problem was that it was out of stock and no idea when more would be in. Well long story short, I ended up looking one random day and saw 26 available. I thought I would sleep on it. I woke up to 6 being available and decided to pull the trigger, and boy am I glad I did. From the moment I took out the first piece ( material clamp ) , I knew it was just built different. I don’t know how to explain it. It is just solid. Everything was great right out of box. The glide motion is what everyone has said it is. Like butter… I could not be any happier with this saw. If you are contemplating getting either the R4222 or the R4251 . Get the R4251 . If you have already purchased the R4222… bring it back and get the R4251 . It is a whole different animal and I think Ridgid ( Delta ) hit it out of the park. I personally could care less about the dust collection ✌🏼. Others feel different . I can tell you one thing, that dust collection “issue” hasn’t translated to reduced sales that’s for sure. This saw was hard to find for me here in the North East.

[@toremgedal7874]

Nice review 😊 Try this on these sawes: Make a under bevel cut across a wide board. Hint - the cut ain't 90 degree. 😂 The saw head is so heavy that the weight cause blade deflection. Which leads to blade kickback. This saw is dangerus to use. This is not an issue with festool KS120

[@ShopNation]

Which arm is your Festool tattoo on? Or is it on the small of your back?

[@michaelclairforet5031]

Really great review all the way around from origin from Taiwan to Delta connection to use, pros and cons. I’ve watched a ton of these reviews and this clearly is one of if not THE best.

[@jimslasercreations2221]

Bro so glad you did this video, I happen to have the 12 inch Ridged waiting for me to buy when I get paid, I tossed around between the 12 and the 10 advantage of the 10 is interchangeable blades with my table saw. Maybe $100 cheaper might sway me some more lol not a tight wad but my last saw was a metabo 12 with zero back clearance like these, that was $500 someone got ( hope they hurt themselves with their ill-gotten gains lol. Take care and talk to you soon.

[@jasonvelez7317]

Thank you for the insightful review on both saws. This was exactly what I was looking for to help decide on which I wanted. On the crosscut length, I believe the claimed depth is based on tilting the work at about a 45* thus giving you the additional 3+ inches of work width. Give it a try and see if it adds up. Thanks again. Oh, and I love your shop! Great layout and love how organized and tidy everything is.

[@8416mac]

AWESOME reveiw! Love the company engineer department meeting, sounds about accurite, off to purchase my rigid 10" and order the dust chute from your etsy shop! Appreciate your time for creating this reveiw.

[@JayMumper]

Thanks Travis! I've been looking at that Rigid 12" saw for a while. I've got a construction project starting at my house. I'm thinking I now need to pick one up. When I do I'll have to order your dust collection attachment.

[@mikeclark2720]

I will be buying the Bosch 12” dust collection chute from you as soon as you put it up for sale!

[@brightboydesigns8325]

You should consider reviewing the Ridgid R4231 which is a sleeper model that came out at the same time as the R4251/R4241 and is also made by Delta. It's a 12" miter and features a short slider (thus eliminating most of the blade deflection issues). All indications is that it's built on the same chassis as the R4251 and your dust chute is probably a direct fit. Not a bad deal for $349 (I paid $329 and I've seen it as low as $299).

[@timruffer7730]

Wow, very well done! I will definitly look for other video's you produce!!!

[@adam205348]

Good information, I've was planning on getting the delta then they mysteriously disappeared and now reappeared as ridgid. But now home depot doesn't have them available again. So if when you're done doing your comparisons and building your dust chute designs and want to get rid of any of your saws I'll take first dibs on what you want to get rid of.

[@TomMustache]

Your suggestion to keep it locked should be something more people notice. A huge percentage of us would be able to make almost all the cuts we need on a regular old non-sliding mitre saw. Cheaper, more accurate, lighter, and easier to keep tuned, non-sliders should be in more shops.

[@independent900]

I agree with your observation but not 100% your conclusion. In "chop saw mode" and dialed in, my Bosh Slide makes great cuts. But I don't always need perfect cuts...sometimes I just need the convenience of getting close, especially when cutting long boards. Of course there are times when I need to break down boards that are 7-8 inches wide x 1 1/2" thick, and a non-slider won't do the job. I've long debated whether a non-sliding saw would be sufficient for me, and always conclude that the slider provides flexibility that is great to have when I need it.

[@David-iq1kd]

I had the 10in Ridgid for 2 days and returned it for the 12in, because it seemed a bit deceptive that the max cross cut length advertised does require setting it into an extended mode. You remove the main fence, and place a sacrificial piece of 2x whatever onto the main platform to raise your piece up higher. Then There are 2 little tabs that rotate around, and a mini metal lip at the back of the circular part that act as the extended fence. Super happy with the saw.

[@hansangb]

@3:42 thanks for the detailed review. After working with DeWalt's (DW716XPS) shadow line, I don't think I could ever go back. I thought it was gimmicky at first (like those cheap lasers for drills) but it's a complete game changer. Edit: at the end. I *was* wondering why you had so many brand spanking new looking mitersaws. Can't wait for the comparison videos.

[@hansangb]

@EcoWorms Montreal Yeah, I have a nice blade from CMT. Works really well, although I miss the capacity of sliding miters. But as a DIY/Hobby guy, I can't justify another mitersaw when mine is working so well. And I wanted the blade that Spence of Insider Carpentry recommended, but again, can't justify it as a hobby guy. LOL

[@1steelcobra]

A number of DeWalt miter saws have the shadow line as well, they currently call it CUTLINE. My dad's 10+ year old sliding model has it, It works fantastic for lining up your cut perfectly.

[@MrJauxT]

I’ve been looking to purchase one of these for my new setup since i sold my 12 inch dewault. Thanks for making this video Travis! I’m a sucker for the Delta brand and since they see to make both, I’m sold on getting that one and getting one of your dust chutes to complete the setup! You’ll see my order in soon!

[@abhinavprakash007]

3:29 cannot unsee the face on the dust collection bag in the background😱

[@quadsquadracingable]

This video is exactly everything I have in my notes for my review! I was wondering if this saw is what they used to make particle board!

[@mattrumbattrum9952]

My delta cruz 10" is the best saw I have ever used for trimming out homes. No for super accurate cuts like furniture building but best for its quickness and ease of use and dust collection

[@erikjohnson2594]

As of August 28, 2024, the Ridgid 4251 has been discontinued! Was able to get a great deal and bought the display model at Home Depot. Ridgid said they would sell me the missing parts that may have been lost during assembly by HD. Bought one of your custom chutes! Thanks!

[@petenelson8136]

Nice review, I'm building a house with a shop and looking at replacing my Harbor Freight miter saw. Like the compact design so maybe one of these are in my future.

[@scottchladek1770]

Great video, thanks for putting in the work on reviewing this saw (and looking forward to next comparison video too). When I finally get one will get your dust collection adapter for sure.

[@BostLabs]

Thank you! I'm gearing up to get my shop back in order after many (MANY) years of just being a catch all. My old chop saw had suffered under the Arizona sun even though it was in a shed. Poor thing snapped in half from the heat. The handle just self destructed. I was debating on fixing vs replacing. I believe you helped me make that choice. :)

[@kenluning909]

Very nicely done. Great review. I would buy one IF I had lots of cross cuts to do, but I can use my custom made table saw sled for that also. My old 10" Delta Shopmaster works for the smaller items that I need. I may get one of these in the future though. Thanks