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[@blackblue2244]

It’s crazy that square enix is complaining FF is not selling when they haven’t release it on PC. People can’t even buy it even if they want to

[@redbearington3345]

Turn based being a selling point really depends. After the last 23 years in done with FF, but if they announced FF17 as turn based it would become a pre order for me.

[@mikev8746]

for you yeah

[@brieezy.]

OK, so for some reason, KZbin doesn’t have the live chat on, but I’m here listening😅

[@rogown2]

The Brave Exvius games are the closest square has to the concept of a final fantasy universe gacha universe: completely independent stories in their own universe, with a story justified thematic reason to insert classic FF characters. It's just that they don't have a game in this series that is what you would call triple A.

[@dreamphoenix]

Awesome stream. Thank you.

[@ETHomerin]

Thanks for the ratings clarification NSP! Appreciate it! On an another note, I've heard from a friend who helps in translating Square stuff for western fans that the next Ever Crisis First Soldier Chapter will show us where Sephiroth got the Masamune. If that is true, while there's still time to guess, I'm going to say that optional OG Ancient Forest! Seems like an odd place of mystery. Great talk today!

[@nicholasaguirre1661]

That and young Angeal

[@ectogamut]

Imagine if Remake Part 3 had side content on the level of BG3 and did away with the Ubisoft towers checklist design

[@rosegiogio9255]

The side content of rebirth is pretty good, the “ubisoft tower checklist” is pretty subjective but for sure it can be improved on

[@mikev8746]

Tbh it kind of helped for me. Its a very narrative lead game so having Elden Ring style unknowns and surprise exploration might have been fun for the surprise factor. But horrible for narrative pacing. It already was difficult to keep the story fresh in the memory inbetween completing each regions sidequests

[@kaelindewar2110]

I avoided the towers initially so that the exploration was more natural. If ubisoft towers are ruining your experience, maybe try to avoid them until you want to "check it off" for your completion

[@sagittariusa7662]

Three things you need to keep in mind. 1) The less a game costs, the more people will play it. The more sales you will make. 2) The more exposure your game has, the more likely it will be noticed by people that matter. 3) Most money is in the hands of a few people. If you want to be successful with today's inequality that is how you deal with it. You don't want to make expensive games or at least in terms of first time players. You want as many people to play your game as possible as it is being developed. The less your game costs for people to play, the more people will play it. More exposure and the more you gain from investors and patrons, which is where the majority of your money should come from. You want a complete game, no need for any patchwork at all when it is finally done. The better you do that with what you offer when you transfer from free to sticker price (reasonable price that still brings in people) the better your game will perform overall with the remainder of revenue you can bring in if you are not making expansions packs and dlc. If you are, then you would need to keep the price even lower to maintain adequate exposure to gain adequate investment and patronage so you can maintain getting the most buck for your product that you can. You do not rely on any micro transactions. That does not work. That should be free content. Otherwise that is trying to squeeze money from ordinary players and the average of them isn't going to give you that much money. You want them to maintain their viewing and exposure of your game, so it remains relevant for people who want to provide the BIG BUCKS in investment and patronage. That is where the money comes in mostly from because of our inequality that is how you can rely on getting the most money you can. Don't try to squeeze from the few dollars ordinary people have. You want the BIG BUCKS that the few very wealthy people like Saudi Princes and children of Chinese Billionaires can provide. If there was a more even distribution of wealth between the top ten percent and the bottom 90 percent then you could rely more on sales than on investment and patronage. The top 11% of Americans as an example hold 85% of the wealth. That is where you want to make your bucks, but if you try to sell to everyone, then either you are going to have to sell to the bottom 55% which only hold 1% of the money or you would have to sell less copies overall because there would be less people who can afford to buy your product. Either way you are not making much money. So when you make a game you want to make it accessible for investment (people who put in money to see something's success) and patronage (people who put in money in exchange for something you can offer such as certain improvements or changes to content, such as if you want more diversity, then pay for it upfront as adequate as necessary in exchange for what would honestly cost, forced diversity that would harm sales would be more expensive as you can imagine) and you want to make it free during its development so that you gain as much exposure as possible. More exposure means more investment and patronage, because your product is becoming popular. Wealthy people love popularity. So you want your product as popular as possible, as low cost initially as possible. You can then place a reasonable price that the average player can afford given you do an honest assessment of monetary affordability that your average player has. I would not ever make my product only available on one platform no matter how much money is thrown my way, because you would ultimately lose out and I would seek to haggle about any percentage of sales going to any platform company. Right now it is about 30% to most platforms if you want to make it accessible on their system. Reasonable it should be about 10%. Anything beyond 10% of money going anywhere requires a damn good reason. Because they make money on their unit being sold and for the games made on it and for additional services. They really don't need to squeeze that much out from producers and developers. And if they are, then you need to get in touch with your legislator and make that change, because it would hurt the economy and unreasonable distribute the wealth towards that 1% which in turn is going to hurt your ability to make money in an honest manner. You would have to depend much more on patronage and investment and if those platform companies start to take a piece of that, then there is no point making games at all unless it is out of a personal interest like an art project.

[@pauljcveiga]

I think "you can fuck the bear" sold bg3 more then "its turn based" 😂

[@nicholasaguirre1661]

Guess they are going to announce Dirge of Cerberus HD Remaster tomorrow since they announced Vincent for Ever Crisis and apparently said it’s based off those models and not rebirth

[@steeltown2946]

FF7 remake sold due to the hype of it's release and the fact it wasn't hard to get your hands on a ps4 at the time. 16 sold, because it wasn't FF7remake. Rebirth got the bad end of the stick , because the curiosity was no longer there. Fans never forgive them for KH3, Remake and FF15. A lot of the reason also, is people are broke.

[@mikev8746]

But 16 didnt sell lol.. I remember having this exact storyline and sequence of events back in June. Or has it sold since then? In that case I guess Rebirth will sell equally over time hahaha

[@Melterer]

If they open sales to all platforms I think it will help especially on pc. I'm sure the whole trilogy of the ff7 remake will sell.well also after it's done. Ff games tend to have staying power. All ff games 7 through 12 continue to sell on remasters and different platforms. But just a guess in the end from an ff fanboy. Hopefully they can figure it out because rebirth was their best game imo. Whether you agree with story or not the game is mighty impressive and fun to play.

[@steeltown2946]

@@mikev8746 16 met sales for a new ff game but yeah SE wasn't happy with the sales. But most ppl went out and bought 16 out of curiosity. They knew what they were getting with rebirth. And yes! Rebirth is 🔥 9.5/10...I gave Remake a 7/10. So that's saying alot.

[@steeltown2946]

@@Melterer Rebirth is 🔥

[@steeltown2946]

I hate to say it but I Feel like rebirth would had sold more if 16 was released after the remake trilogy. A group of fans where skeptical about that game. Would had a bigger marketing budget too. Releasing less frequent, demands respect from the buyer. Look at GTA6, sales are going to be a record high.

[@DICEBOY22]

The whole industry not just Square really needs to cut the excessive Hollywood like pristine fat that they don't actually need and gamers don't actually care about no matter how much they want to stan a company and claim "why they need those things". Dude! I would take a FF game that looks like MegaMan Legends if it costed me $30.00-$40.00.

[@DICEBOY22]

Capcom redeemed themselves Nah bro... State of MegaMan would argue otherwise R.I.P Legends 3

[@redbearington3345]

Was thinking other night what they need to do to save FF. Anyone under 30 has the expectation FF games take too long to make and aren't very good, and this remake trilogy has damaged the remake idea. They still could pull a Capcom and remake 1-9. And i mean remake them not seboot time travel multiverse bs. Same story and characters in modern day graphics. Expanded way REmakes have been. Or dont call the new one ff17. Just call it FF and sell it as a kind if series "reboot" a rebranding First and foremost though they need to settle on an identity. If someone loves ff6 all they know about ff17 is that it wont be anything like that. All big franchises give people an idea what they'll get with the next one. FF use to have an identity now its a shrug and a "ff is like a box of chocolates"

[@DewaHuang]

Fundamental issue, not one jrpg on April top 20 best selling games (DD2 more like western RPG)

[@mikev8746]

Yep I honestly feel that maybe the majority of people feel a bit self conscious about liking JRPGs lol 😂 Modern audiences are to cool for that or something

[@Storm1Trooper5]

@@mikev8746imma be real only nerds play jrpgs. We need more people who aren’t afraid to embrace their nerd side

[@darkkingastos4369]

FF 14 is probably going to die as well considering the state of the Mogstation

[@jiggerypokery2962]

Stellar blade flopped. It sold less than Skull and Bones.

[@pandaeyez]

No it didnt. It reported higher sales expectations. And cut them some slack, its a brand new IP.

[@jiggerypokery2962]

@@pandaeyez It probably didn't even sell a million and probably needed ~3 million to break even.

[@redbearington3345]

They shouldn't have put people with no interest in remakes in charge of a remake.

[@rainmorga]

Remake devs promised that they will stick to the original VII story and they broke it. Did not buy Remake and will not buy Rebirth.

[@mikev8746]

You know I really wonder how many of you have been posting this exact sentiment ever since 2020 😂 Will this be the last time you make this statement? Or will posting the exact same comment under the next FF7 related video do the trick? Or the next one after that? Because I keep reading them in every FF7 video and something tells me its not the first time for these people that ‘they speak up’ lol Man you’d think people that dont like the ‘changes’ would’ve moved on by now. But nope, SE might be struggling financially.. but its living rent free in your head for over 4 years 😂😂😂

[@bcon1308]

@@mikev8746 why are you bothering to reply if only to laugh and slander someone? The OP was right. The final product given changed big moments in ways that gave less satisfactory storytelling to the overall game and the fans that helped support the company through business in the past want to see them actually listen to the criticism they have blatantly ignored for over a decade now. Surprise pikachu face that they keep losing money and we just want to see them return to base instead of flopping with game directions no one asked for and have specifically been spoken about as being a problem with sales.

[@Melterer]

These comments make it super easy to see who didn't play the games. Both remake and rebirth are an absolute love letter to the original and all the main story points are there, and expanded on in more meaningful ways. It's exactly what a remake is supposed to do. I don't expect to change your mind, because you won't. But the games are massively loved, so thinking you can speak for everyone because you don't like their direction is weird.

[@nicholasaguirre1661]

⁠@@Meltererif that’s what you truly think there you are sorely mistaken. Look at all the successful Resident Evil remakes and come back and talk to me. Are the games entirely bad? No. They definitely did add some interesting story elements expanding on the original. And the combat is amazing. But they changed the story enough in ways that are hurtful to the original and just shitty writing in general. And how they handled Aeriths death was the cherry on top. I didn’t buy the 2nd part but watched my friend play the whole game and I decided I was right not to support this project anymore after the 1st part.

[@Melterer]

@nicholasaguirre1661 I'm not mistaken because I love the game, and so do many others. The ending was handled beautifully. I suggest watching the shot by shot breakdown by Phillip hartshorn. But then again if you don't like it, like I said I'm not gonna change your mind.