I believe in Universal Salvation, now what? Pt. 1

Many Christians are discovering that Jesus will save all mankind but the church is against such teaching. Gary Amirault gives some advice how to respond.

[@shirahsheartbeats]

i had to fall into something some time ago..to hit the bottom line of my faith: i sinned so bad and so aware, i would say, that there is no forgivness for me. i had some really deep and ugly crisis last year..even if i was not believing in eternal hell anymore and i was sure i still love the lord and i still desire to follow him..still, here i aaa, down, laying in my own darkness, accused and condemned..i thought i might have commited the unpardonable sin and all the horrible scenarios. so, several times, in my misery i prayed for Abba to end my life..if there is no forgivness for me anymore at least to end my horrible emotional pain..and He didn't honored my prayer. it was not done with me..in this state I heard about the universal restoration. and I know in the past I would have rejected such thing..I had to be humbled to grasp the only truth: Yeshua died for all the sin..and He will accomplish the plan of God which is restauration. that's love..that wins. i am so happy i found these videos..changed a lot of my lenses.

[@radamson1]

I have the same problem, it seems people who have been "saved" feel they are in some kind of a club and to a point delight in the fact that they are going to heaven and I'm going to hell. One of their favorite questions is "then why did Jesus die on the cross?" to which I reply "to save the world" their next question is "why not just do what you want then?" my answer I am, I love Jesus I don't fear eternal punishment. To me, it's like meeting your future spouse and telling them if you marry me I will love you forever if not I will burn you forever, but I will still love you as you burn. That's usually when they tell me how crazy I am and I tell them how much Jesus loves us all.

[@skb282]

I wonder how the Christians who don't believe in universal salvation can tell non-christians that Jesus loves them. They make God sound like the most abusive, toxic father in the world and the worst part is they don't even realise it!

[@keitonstahley7471]

Thanks for the thoughts!

[@grimlund]

There is something evil with this religion. If you ask any christian he will say that he wants as many people as possible to be saved from hell fire. But if you tell them that hell may not exist and that there is no eternal punishment they get angry. This is just a proof that they dont give a shit about people as long as they them self is part of the club and has that free card. That metality is really scary.

[@mattr.1887]

I believe you should do what is right BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT. If the threat of eternal hell is the only thing holding you back from doing bad things, then that would be a very immature and primitive place that you are in. You probably lack the full appreciation of the difference between right and wrong, if you believe that's as good as it gets morally.

[@matthewmichaelson9806]

great vid brother. Just recently came to the victorious gospel this month! I can't believe I fell for the lie, so many years. Praise God for His unconditional love!!!

[@matthewmichaelson9806]

That's awesome my brother!!! :)

[@sonnymustarseed7034]

Going through a similar situation yet my wife and "reformed " "church" doesn't know yet. Been studying, and praying when and how to tell her.

[@mattr.1887]

Sonny, any updates?

[@Brucem888]

Universal salvation must be true for a fair, benevolent God to exist...

[@streamhunters9940]

Wow. Great video my friend. Lots of truth. I can't understand why this makes a lot of Christians so angry. They literally want people to go to hell, and they think its not fair. May God continue to bless you sir.

[@davidford15]

"this makes a lot of Christians so angry. They literally want people to go to hell, and they think its not fair" Those angry Christians' attitude is, 'Justice for them, but mercy for me.' Matthew 18 (NKJV) www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+18&version=NKJV 21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” .... 26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. .... 32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. 35 “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”

[@mattr.1887]

I think a lot of people need an eternal hell to threaten themselves with. Without that, either 1. they would be complete degenerates, and/or 2. they believe there would be no justice.

[@tentmaker777]

Jesus is going to save us all from the hells we have made. We will all accept LIFE once we discover, there is only life in Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life.

[@simthiam3712]

With God, all things are possible. So I just can't understand why is it so difficult for people to believe that Jesus can even save mankind beyond their grave ? Don't forget , Jesus already conquered Death.

[@godiswithin7204]

This man is saving ppl from the Grave! The Lord is Good and I wish I could hug this man for showing me the Truth of Christ

[@Sarmatique]

Thank you so much for all your work. During last 10 years of my life as a Catholic I was struggling with the problem of hell. In fact I have never been able to see what kind of good thing is actually the traditional Gospel of eternal division and everlasting punishment. I believe my OCD was mostly caused by this particular Church teaching. Finally, I left Christianity two years ago and much of my torments ended. But I still rejoice at what you're doing. After millenia there is again a good news.

[@CoolStoryJo]

I remember when I became a born again Christian. I few months ago I saw Howard Stewart's nde and was petrified. For maybe 2-3 weeks I believed so many people that I believed were good would be tortured forever and also feared that my grandma was long gone at this point. But I wasn't going to have that, I researched like crazy and found someone who addressed the topic of the miss-translation that helped me so much and removed the fear in my heart. Then started to research more and found your reasons which helped to convince me that all would be saved and I will never be more happy. I believe that God both sent us people to help us see the truth of universal salvation. Thank you for the video and your work :D. God bless you and everyone :].

[@teabobaggins2909]

So cool man, similar thoughts led me here as well, peace dude

[@CoolStoryJo]

teabobaggins God bless you :).

[@charlieclark592]

thank you for that video. If anyone ever studies Calvinism, Arminianism you come to an understanding of gridlock but universal salvation from locks that grid in opens a whole new life for those who pray

[@tentmaker777]

Years ago, I checked into it, asked the leader of the foundation some questions regarding Jesus. I wasn't satisfied with his answer. I am very Jesus centered. There are many well written books on spirituality. But I suggest to people to stay focused on the Jesus portrayed in the Scriptures. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, the resurrection. He is the name above all names.

[@tentmaker777]

The truth is so wonderful and so grand and plain, that the Pharisaic spirit that wants to elevate itself above the glory of of God finds the truth "seductive." "Deceptive" is another term they like to sling around. "This is a faithful saying and worthy of ALL acceptance. For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we TRUST in the living God who is the savior of all men especially those who believe." 1 Tim 4:9-11 Seductive to some, thrilling to those in need of God's grace.

[@sophiegeetman4271]

Still, I Can't believe I actually fell for those horrendous lies about hell and the lake of fire taught in most churches. I almost lost faith in God because of it. I was so depressed and scared, to the point I even thought of giving up on life, seeing as it had no meaning if this was the destiny the majority of mankind had to suffer. myself included, as well as my friends, my family, Everyone I cared about was going to hell, while the ''holy ones'' will have great lives. I've had a huge emotional breakdown from that hell thing. Annihilationism didn't really do much at first, but Eternal torment did have me in fear's crushing grip, I felt I was being hunted down like an animal to be slaughtered. I had feelings of sadness, fear, desperation mixed with anger, and a sense of being betrayed. that seriously got me mad, and really pissed off, I didn't know what to think or believe in anymore. but I'm glad I found out the real truth about God's ultimate plan for the salvation of all! I may have lost faith in the Christian religion a long time ago, but I will never lose faith in God, Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit that led me to the real truth. I'm still undergoing a process of recovery that may take a long time, but I'm still glad I discovered the truth that really sets free. :')

[@Daniel-rk4pc]

2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; This states that CHRIST will take VENGEANCE. BE NOT DECIEVED BY YOUR HEART

[@tentmaker777]

So you're in it for the rewards and not because the love of God constrains you. I got it. Friend, if what's in your heart is to screw around, then dude, according to Matthew 5, you're already fried, if Hell is the fate of those who have hate and lust and whatever IN THEIR HEARTS. You're toast, if God is as wrathful and unforgiving as you betray. But I met a savior who on the cross said, "Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing." Amazing, those who murdered God and He forgave

[@SwordofManticorE]

Gary, do you know what the difference is between the Gospel of Universal salvation and all the other gospels. The Gospel of Universal salvation is the only Gospel that gives God all the glory.

[@tentmaker777]

SwordofManticorE Yes, The Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ brings all glory to our Heavenly Father through His Son Jesus via the Holy Spirit of Truth. God is unfailing love.

[@SwordofManticorE]

+SwordofManticorE Did somebody say something?

[@jamesgingrich3837]

I couldn't agree more! I relate to what he is saying! I'm not as good as you guys, but Jesus loves me anyway! Thanks

[@streamhunters9940]

Amen

[@oneorganicchick589]

I am walking alone in my belief in universal salvation. I grew up with a strong southern baptist upbringing. Now my Mother believes I am in a cult and surely headed for “Hell”. 😪

[@tentmaker777]

Tammy, you are not walking alone, there are many who are walking but God puts us in seasons where it appears we are walking alone because there are no like-minded people in our immediate contact and because we are rejected by those close to us. It's painful; it's part of God's processing, sharing the shame, despised, rejected, etc. Turn it into prayer and intercession. Allow it to turn you more to the spiritual. "My kingdom is not of this world." I pray that you enter joy in the midst of what presently may be rough going, especially with your Mom. Give her much grace, be patient and understanding. Just love on her.

[@shanestrickland5006]

Tammy Worrell Don't worry about it. Bassicly people that have done the proper research would believe universal salvation.

[@jhq9064]

John 8:32 "and you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free."

[@tentmaker777]

The teaching of the "restoration of all things" is as old as the prophets, Jesus and His apostles. The early church taught it up to the days of Augustine. A good book for proof of that is "Universalism The Prevailing Doctrine Of The Christian Church During Its First Five Hundred years by Dr. J.W. Hanson. It is available to read at Tentmaker Ministries. When the teaching of Hell became the mainstay of the church it created what is today called the DARK AGES. We're still not out of them yet.

[@Starvalleybotany]

It is sad that many pastors, preachers and other religious leaders have mistranslated the Bible. It is so sad that they have used hate and pride (which is really fear) in translating Bible passages.

[@ZacharyBauerNew2Torah]

Malachi 3:6 "I the LORD Do NOT Change!"

[@shareetempleton]

Yes. Love then unconditionally. Pray absolutely. And now many conversations have been had don't antagonise anymore just stick to other Biblical narrative you both agree on and stop when it turns to the unagreed. Maybe you could go on Dad and daughter dates to talk and tell her your strategy. Pray together for your wife/mum. I feel your pain. Its a bit of a grieving process but my husband and I do much better by not bringing it up. And you know what we dont have to wirry about their salvation at least. She may be resistant coz it may mean discon ection with her friendship group. I hope this helps and I pray she comes around. Still praying for mine. God bless

[@Starvalleybotany]

Rob Bell has come to this deep place. Unfortunately too many Evangelicals tend to be trapped in a state of shallowness (a baby food religion) and fear like a child afraid of the dark. It's scary to go into those shadows of belief and learn that there is far more to the Gospel than the limitations that too many Christians (especially preachers) put on them.

[@LionandlambministryJesusSaves]

In Ephesians 1:13 the Holy Spirit through the Apostle Paul declares that men are saved and sealed by hearing and BELIEVING the Word of Truth, the Gospel of your Salvation. Therefore, here, now, is declared unto you the Word of Truth, the Gospel of your Salvation: "that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 . BELIEVE today. The time is short.

[@Williamwestp24]

im a total subscriber to this channel. Thanks Gary. My spirit says you are 100%+ accurate. I look at it this way not to give any excuse to sin but just be ready for the first resurrection so we can directly go to the Kingdom without the delay of being purified and being retaught. i could be saying it wrong but I hope you understand what I mean. God bless you.:)

[@Williamwestp24]

The Dark Ages is gone but it still seems to repeat itself in many churches today.

[@SethWP1984]

Gary you're looking in pretty good shape....keep up that rowing....oh yeah great message your site helped me to become a Universalist a few years back. Take care and God Bless.

[@ZacharyBauerNew2Torah]

LOL, we all have closets full of sin. "Sin is transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4) - We are free from the punishment of sin because of his sacrifice. Keeping the Torah does not prevent me from sinning. Keeping Torah as best I can shows my Messiah that I Love Him. "For this is the Love of God, that we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS" 1 John 5:3 I'll never do it perfectly in the flesh, but I should walk after him perfectly in Spirit.

[@tentmaker777]

The Bible teaches no such thing as salvation by "chance" or "another chance." Salvation is by the finished work of the cross. When Jesus was crucified by you, and me and all the rest of His enemies, Jesus said, "Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing." Did Jesus pray the prayer of the Father? Did Jesus pray according to the Father's will? More importantly, will the Father answer Jesus' prayer? Will the Father of us all forgive us all? The Father and Son are in agreement.

[@ontarioboy101]

I had the same problem....keep studying it, and memorize key verses. It will start coming to you. Practice debating, don't give up on your beliefs in a loving God Who never gives up on us!

[@999666703]

Those in churches that reject the message of universal salvation and that hell is a lie are experiencing cognitive dissonance. Great video!

[@bigq2696]

@wulfgar3000 Look up the word hell in the Hebrew and the greek nowhere does it say you burn up after you die.

[@dabmclovin3632]

You live because words are coming out of my mouth I love you god

[@tentmaker777]

Yes, to some that fact that God is a love that NEVER fails, never gives up is truly good news! But to many of a Pharisaic mindset, Good News is believing that most of mankind is going to rot in eternal torment forever and ever while a handful of chosen frozen encamp around their god rejoicing that they were chosen to escape such a fate. Yes, there are millions of Christians who hold such a view of God and themselves. Jesus called them Pharisees, separated ones, hypocrites. Love never fails!

[@hgchatgurl1]

Rest in peace brother 💜🦁🐑

[@tentmaker777]

@k0smon I'm more comfortable in a biblical structure than "new thought." I don't have a problem with the Bible when it's translated correctly.

[@tentmaker777]

Strange you should quote Paul, a man who wrote much of the N.T., who was given the gospel to the gentiles and NEVER used the word Hell except once perhaps in 1 Cor. 15:55 where he declared victory over it. Perhaps you should heed Paul's advice and preach his gospel. "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. To this end we both labor and suffer reproach because we trust in the living God who is savior of ALLL men, especially those who believe. These things command and teach." hmmm.

[@petewilsonfl]

Amen to this video. Let them hear Lord

[@tentmaker777]

Whining and complaining about others will not get you out of your funk. You need to go deep into your own heart and ask God to fill it with gratitude. Let Him give you His eyes and then see your circumstances. Things will change with or without the church's help.

[@tentmaker777]

I have much better things to do with my life than to debate the Pharisaic spirit. I know that spirit well. As to dealing with passages in some translations that appear to teach Jesus is an utter failure, Bible Threatenings Explained on the Tentmaker site is a good start. Also, The Prevailing Doctrine Of the Christian Church During Its First Five-Hundred Years is a good read. Hope Beyond Hell also works well. A short read on what Jesus said about Hell "Jesus' Teaching on Hell."

[@tentmaker777]

@dubvishun A careful reading of the Bible will find no such thing as Jesus warning of an eternal hell. A careful reading with God's Spirit will find a plan of redemption that covers everything in heaven, on earth and under the earth. And may God give everyone eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to receive this glorious truth.

[@brucelawson6070]

I believe in universal salvation and I know nothing impossible for God. One thing I struggle with is if every person and angels will eventually be in heaven. Heaven and New earth are just so big and the number of people is so many where will every one fit. please excuse my ignorance

[@tentmaker777]

Oh, I certainly believe that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures. He tasted death for EVERYONE. Your hideous doctrine concludes His salvic power of the cross was basically ineffectual, it scarcely saved anyone. As a matter of fact, according to you, it saved no one. Your salvation according to your doctrine comes from YOUR decision, not from Christ's power to save. Seems you contradict Paul who says we are saved by grace, not by our decisions or works. Did Paul "chose" Christ?

[@BelieveinChrist777]

Thank you I needed this! Its true its not good news if ppl who don't believe they go to hell...that's bad news.

[@Williamwestp24]

Yes i agree they did perish on this side of the grave but not in the afterworld. They are going to reap what they sow but they will eventually have the glory of God.

[@Williamwestp24]

Good questions and thoughts my friend. Peace and grace to you.

[@tentmaker777]

Well, that's not a bad place to be. Just give Him your life, REALLLY give it to Him with no strings attached, no fine print. Let go and let God.

[@believerinchrist83]

I'm a freshly woken up mother who has been living worldly for a long time. I look for my strength in the Lord and point out that a lot of don't understand the repenting, a lot of my friends do not even believe in Christ :(

[@tentmaker777]

I have never met someone who pretends to "keep the law" actually even remotely come close to keeping it. As a matter of fact, those today who try to keep the Mosaic code became chief hypocrites with closets full of sin. The leaven of the Pharisee is hypocrisy and Christian "law-keepers" are usually chiefest among the hypocrites. I say this having been in Messianic Jewish congregations for some time.

[@calebfail2116]

Gary, thank you. Thank you with all my heart for for aiding me in understanding the True VICTORIOUS Gospel! May God Bless you in all your endeavors!

[@tentmaker777]

And every human being who died in Adam will ultimately believe, bow and worship at the only name under heaven in which mankind must be saved. Jesus is Lord of the dead and the living. Death does not stop God from drawing all mankind to Himself. The time of salvation is not limited to our few moments under the sun, We will all live under the Son, not because of our faith, but because of the faith of Christ. Peace...

[@Williamwestp24]

Amen!!!!!!!!

[@tentmaker777]

@warriorspikes51 Really? 1Ti 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. These things command and teach." I think I prefer Paul's gospel of grace to your wrath-filled terrorism, thank you.

[@seanmick3093]

I trusted in the Lord of Jesus Christ as my personal savior into my heart through faith alone, and not of works, by accepting his free gift of salvation, by his grace on February 16, 1996, each day, I confess sins for process of sanctification, to receive Jesus Christ as your personal savior, please refer to John 3:16-18:36, 5:24, 6:37:47, 10:27-29, 14:6, Acts 2:38, 16:30-31, Luke 15:10, Roman's 3:23, 4:5, 6:23, 10:9-10:13, Ephesians 2:8-10, and Titus 3:5. God bless the world, and thank you for sharing this.

[@alw7487]

This is the truth, period! The Christians don't bother to even look at literal translations, they put their faith in what they were taught, and the person that taught them was taught and on and on it goes. Eons, are specific time periods of God, as an example Christ will be here in the Millennium, Christians believe this and they should, it is an eon. The problem with translation is the in the Bible, eons are translated as eternity. There are five eons in the Bible, we are currently in the Evil Eon, the third eon. When Jesus returns, that will be the fourth eon, for his 1,000 year reign on earth. The final eon, will be a new heaven and new earth, and when that ends, God will be all in all and all things will return to God, including the non-believers. Who created evil and who causes evil? Answer...God does. Isa 45:7 "I form the light and create darkness; I make peace, and create EVIL; I the LORD do all these things. 1 John 12:47 And if any man hears my words, and believe not, I judge him not, for I came not to judge the world, but to same the WORLD. God has a plan, both good and evil, that in the end, we all will be saved eternally!

[@tentmaker777]

Friend, you will discover God mercy is far more than your reasoning of Scriptures. Rom 11:30 ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

[@tentmaker777]

If discipleship was entrance to eternal life and deliverance from eternal damnation, Jesus would not have spoken in parables and said so many things to turn people away. "He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him." "I have only come but for the house of Israel." He carefully selected a few for a mission for the first century. It is apparent you do not understand their mission. Perhaps that's because you are not a disciple? "And I, if I am lifted up from earth..

[@tentmaker777]

The words hades, gehenna and tartarus should either be transliterated as in done in many many translations and places or they should be defined. Hades in the place of the dead, or unseen. Gehenna is a valley outside Jerusalem walls, so it should be valley of Hinnom. Tartarus is a word out of Greek Mythology, place where bad angels are held UNTIL judgment. None of these implies a place where human beings go after death to suffer "everlasting punishment."

[@ZacharyBauerNew2Torah]

Well I'm in no way Messianic. Messianics cling to the traditions of men just like Christianity does. Blessings as you search for Truth.

[@tentmaker777]

Well I have no doubt, Hell is real in your mind, but the day will come when your mind is renewed and you will no longer think such evil thoughts about our Father. You ask why I am serving God if I believe in Universal Salvation? Has it ever occurred to you that I serve God BECAUSE of universal salvation. A god who loses most of mankind is not worthy of serving. But a God who is love and proves His love on the cross to die for his enemies, THAT kind of God is worthy to be served. God is love.

[@LifeIsABigPuzzle]

So what do you think about Westboro Baptist Church? They are very extreme.

[@michaelsacco8155]

If someone comes to know God from a hell fire and brimstone message it is based on a falsehood and emotion. More times than not that person never truly became sanctified in Christ Jesus, which is the only way to learn how to crucify their fleshly desires and have victory. Then they go back to their vices all the while they have burning in eternal flames or eternally separated from God etched in their memory and things could tend to progress to the worst. CONT>>

[@tentmaker777]

Pastor Picos, you can condemn the wicked all you want. I know there is none righteous, nay, not one. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God including you. Now you can boast in your decision all you want, in the end, your boasting will be in vain. In Adam ALLLL died, even so in Christ shall all be made alive, but each in his own order. In the end, God will be all in all. 1 Cor. 15:22-28. Now, this is a comments place, not a discussion board. if you want to discuss visit Tentmaker.

[@tentmaker777]

Yes it is on youtube. I don't know why it doesn't show on the side bar. but if you type I believe in Universal Salvation, now what? Pt. 2 it should pop up.

[@Lightmane]

Hi Gary. My friend Carl, on facebook, read your article I sent him; 'Honest Questions and Answers about Hell' He's a Calvinist & swears that you don't know what you're talking about & that you're wrong about church history & that those words don't mean eternal, etc. etc. One of his arguments was that Universalism was called a heresy by the church in 553. I couldn't believe that he was making that argument. Well. At least he knows it wasn't until 553 - LOL

[@arizonaskye3917]

Please tell, how do we get Universal Salvation from this verse? I am a believer in Universal Restoration/Salvation but am troubled with this verse. Psalm 145:20 KJV, "The Lord preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy." YLT and other versions say basically the same thing. ???

[@thomasallison4858]

They will be destroyed in the lake of fire during the second death… But, destruction is always a prelude to restoration :)

[@rdaleyj1]

Yeah there's a part of them (flesh nature) that must be destroyed as they learn to walk in his ways. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@shareetempleton]

Yes it refers to fleshly ways and behaviours and wrong thinking being destroyed in the restorative metaphorical lake of fire. The refining fire which burns away the dross to leave only pure silver. 😊❤

[@StageBanndit]

If anyone is on the fence about this subject and is not sure. There is a really informative video on the subject. KZbin channel: fotm1 Video title: Sinners in the hands of an angry doug

[@tentmaker777]

Actually, in most Bible translations produced in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries, Jesus actually did invent Hell. The first place the word Hell appears in the NIV, NASB, NRSV, etc is in Matt. 5:22 -- in Jesus' mouth. Amazing how deep the hypocrisy and blasphemies that come from church leaders and fed to the sheep. I'm working on an article on this most interesting aspect of most "scholarly" new Bible translations. Stay tuned. Thanks.

[@tentmaker777]

Yes, the way is very narrow that leads to life as narrow as the cross of Christ. No one comes to the father unless the father draws him. "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth will draw (drag in Greek) all mankind to myself. This He spoke signifying what manner of death He should die. Wanna see the narrow way, visit the beam upon which the savior of the world was hung. He said, "Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Praise Him.

[@ConstantCompanion]

When I was a teenager, I went to a conference teaching how to witness with the four spiritual laws and the Roman Road. Those little tracts? At the end of the week we paired off and walked assigned neighborhoods, knocking on doors with intention to witness. They told us to pray before we knocked on the doors. The truth of it was? About the third house in, a Jehovah's Witness answered the door. He chewed us up and spit us out. My partner ended up crying. So after that? We prayed before we knocked on doors. What we didn't tell was we prayed that no one would be home.

[@tentmaker777]

Very good! That's why hardly any traditional Christian "witnesses." The "good news" is so bad; it's impossible to pawn off as good to anyone except the insane.

[@davidford15]

"a Jehovah's Witness answered the door. He chewed us up and spit us out. My partner ended up crying" So, what have you learned following that traumatic experience?

[@tentmaker777]

mprince420 and MsBREATHEOFLIFE, this is a place to leave a comment related to the video. It is not a discussion board. It looks like the two of you have really engaged each other. Please move your discussion to a place more conducive to arguing. There are many free discussion forums. Thanks to both of you for leaving your comments.

[@tentmaker777]

Yes, those who truly believe in Hell and don't backshelf it but really try to consciously believe it to the point of trying to really save people from Hell, usually very quickly become self-righteous, mean and judgmental. That's what the doctrine does to people. It happened to me. We begin to blame those who reject our so-called "good news" which is really insanity. Unfortunately, most of our Bible translations are tainted with this poison making it hard for people to come to their senses.

[@Whosscruffylooking]

Arrogance has the tendency to show up on both sides of this debate. There are those who believe in limited atonement based on activating God's grace by coming to faith who will call universalists heretics, followers of an antiChrist one world religion, etc. And universalists who bash traditional Christians as dupes, cruel, and say they are all just like the Pharisees that Jesus opposed. Why cant someone admit this is a difficult issue and that you could use Bible verses to defend both? Faith people will ask why Jesus warns that we must repent. They would ask why Paul writes that we are saved by grace, but through faith. The universalist may ask about all dying in Adam and all living in Christ. Two groups claiming to have the market cornered on God's love but cant even treat each other with human respect. People of all theological leanings need to remember that we cant claim to love the God we havent seen if we dont love the brother we can see

[@tentmaker777]

Dan First good point!

[@shanestrickland5006]

Dan First Because eternal torment was not in the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. It was added by the Roman Catholic church In 500 CE. If they would study what the early church father's tought and do some history studying. They would see this but they refuse. They very places that say forever is a mistranslation of Aion are Olam which both means age. Olam is the Hebrew word for age. Aion is the Greek word for age.

[@davidford15]

"cant someone admit this is a difficult issue and that you could use Bible verses to defend both?" This is a difficult issue and people can use Bible verses to defend both positions.

[@davidford15]

"He must want us to dig and dig and keep digging until we find the Gold He has buried" Blake Healy says that when he hides Easter eggs for his kids, he doesn't make it impossible to find the eggs, nor does he make it too easy. God does the same with his children.

[@shanestrickland5006]

@@davidford15 Well personally I don't believe God would be so cruel to eternally torment anyone. But if I'm wrong and he does eternally torment people are anything. I do not want anything to do with him. If God is an eternal tormentor all the evil's human's have commited combined are nothing to that one evil act. Because if God would eternally torment 1 person as fare as I'm concerned heaven would not be a paradise. He would most likly abuse the people that go to heaven. He would most likly treat them wrong. I mean if eternal torment is true God would be one hell of a Sadist. Why can't people understand the problem with a God of love and a Just God being an eternal tormentor does not add up. So the point of my post is to say that a God of love and a Just God can not be an eternal tormentor. Because the punishment has to be rooted in love and a Just nature. Eternal torment is an unbalanced punishment so it's an unjust punishment. Eternal torment conflicts with a loving God. But some punishment has to happen if God is just. The type of punishment's that can work with a Just God and a God of love would be saving everyone who has ever lived. But have it be like a trial for them to get saved. Are the ones that are not saved leave no trace of body and soul. As in no after life for the wiked Just the end of their existence.

[@tentmaker777]

@66thPsalm Try downloading free Quicktime and or also updating Flash on your computer.

[@believerinchrist83]

Apologies brother :( I guess I don't know everything but I do know a lot of people who aren't even worried about the Lord's return... :(

[@SonshineMinistry]

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matthew 7:13-14

[@issacsgma]

John 8:31“If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed” “If” is a critical word in the understanding of any statement. It is a word that places a condition upon the statement that follows or precedes. In this case, a condition is placed upon true discipleship You make the word mean what you want it to say finish reading it in context 1 tim 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

[@rdaleyj1]

Jesus was speaking to the Firstfruits of his creatures, the rest are going to be reconciled back to God if Jesus is the saviour of the world, and he is the saviour of the world.

[@jameswhite6266]

Very tranquil place to do this video. I now want to get a fishing boat to go to the lake. My whole christian life I have believed in an eternal damnation for lost people. It is so hard to let go of that because its brainwashed into my memory. I feel better today for hearing your video and another one that debunked that self-righteous doctrine in the video before these. I was so depressed 5 minutes into the doctrine of eternal damnation video that my spirit felt dark. Jesus says: "the kingdom of God is within us" and "seek ye first the kingdom of God and its righteousness and all things will be added unto you." If you find that kingdom of god and its righteousness then you eliminate the self righteous darkness that is produced by fear of annihilation.

[@jameswhite6266]

Well its hard to quit believing in Hell. I suppose my brain was programed to believe its real, indirectly. I want to quit believing in it totaly, but, I keep fining myself juggling with it. do you believe in re-incarnation until the day of resurrection? I know a professed Christian Economic professpor that believe in Chrisitan re-incarnation.

[@jameswhite6266]

I think that when the Bible says: As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the last days; conversley, they were doing anything imaginable, thats, also in the bible, so, we are doubling technology at a extremely fast rate now. I think it also is referring to immorality.

[@jameswhite6266]

First of All, I am in this dialogue with you guys to seek the truth. So Be It. I am very open minded, but, I love my Indapenden/fundamental learning from Dr. Darwin cummins, when, he explained to us how important it is to seperate ourselves from the world. I had an experience where Jesus talked to me Telepathicly on Dec. 21, 2005. I got Saved in 1971 but this event was similar with added tangible carnal knowledge of Jesus. Jesus said: to me, James, I can still use you, give up all Hope in the things, of this World. I believe seperating from the world to transform yourself into the Christian that can withstand the tempters seductions ( Satan and the Demons), then, go forth into the world, not being prejudiced to where you go in order to reach out corss cultural/ethnical boundaries with the Love of God.

[@jameswhite6266]

I am agnostic to the Idea that Everyone is going to receive a Universal Salvation. I like the Idea and find very much scriptural knowledge that appears to support it. The honsest truth is, I think regardless how salvation is handed out, were responsible to help advance the Kingdom of God, so, the LOVE of God will iron out all incorrect doctrine, and, correct the doctrine with a two edged sword.

[@jameswhite6266]

I will go to God, in prayer , and ask him abou this matter. Thanks for your fellowship.

[@tentmaker777]

Actually, thinking you are keeping any semblance of Torah, reveals the veil over your eyes. I have been in many Messianic Assemblies and read a LOT of material from Sabbath keeping groups. There are a couple headquarters of such groups near Columbia. I have seen the dark spirit that works in these places. I have also seen those who think they are keeping Torah cannot see their spiritual blindness. Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[@shurdalife1793]

Eternal torment does not sound just and actually to me its terrifying and very evil i wonder if god will save all or the People who is cast in to the lake of fire Will be destroyed not tormented because the god i believe in is just but i lean more torwards that all i mean all will be saved and restored

[@tentmaker777]

Your welcomed. Now pass it on to other brothers and sisters knowing that you will face much opposition.

[@misplacedwonder]

i tell people the same thing, that the Bible is a completely incomprehensible book unless God reveals the meaning of the scriptures... that's how you end up with things like the klan, reading the Bible with satan instead of God.... night night, it's early here, gotta watch more videos from my new friend the tent maker :)

[@tentmaker777]

Isn't it interesting that when we think of Hell, we immediately picture, Hitler, Ted Bundy, Joseph Stalin, etc. But when Jesus used the terms Christianity has translated as Hell, He was warning "holy people," Bible scholars, lawyers, scribes, Pharisees. This is the cream of the crop of what society deemed "honorable" people. And Jesus said the "scum" of the world would enter heaven BEFORE the "honorable" religious folks. So maybe hell is full of Popes, evangelists, Pastors and Bible scholars.

[@LionandlambministryJesusSaves]

The Bible teaches that sinners suffer the sorrows of the second death because of their evil, ungodly deeds, but in the final analysis, what it all boils down to is that they will experience ‘after‑death’ judgment, the wrath of God, because they refuse God’s all‑sufficient remedy. Note John 3:36 , “he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life: but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

[@michaelsacco8155]

@ Pastor David Picos > Picture a Muslim man with a family in The Middle East, who tries to raise his family with decent morals and does not adhere to the racist doctrine. While being persecuted by his own race and maybe his own family. Then he and his loved ones are suddenly torched by a predator drone or a cruise missiles. Will the God that saved you from the despair and showed you his true nature send that man and his family to eternal damnation? CONT >>>

[@tentmaker777]

@Thegarmendia Like I said to someone else here, visit tentmaker . org and go to the second audio link and listen to the mp3 entitled God is Love. Rember...."God is love." "Love NEVER FAILS." "Nothing is impossible with God." He is not a liar or promise breaker. Jesus said He came to save the world. If He fails, you are without hope, all of us. But He did not fail. "It is finished!" "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw (literally drag) all mankind to myself. John 12:32

[@tentmaker777]

Of course, those who are in the light get to experience in this lifetime what light in the midst of darkness is like. They get to practice overcoming their enemies with love. They get to enjoy the joy and abundant life Jesus promises. I am so grateful I am no longer living in the darkness of atheism, for example. I KNOW God loves me. There are times I can experience that love. AND I can get free from the darkness of religion which was worse than atheist darkness. Religion stinks of death. ugh.

[@tentmaker777]

@believerinchrist83 Hey, Jesus said He and His Father would make their abode in you and that He would send the Spirit of truth, the Holy Spirit to you. What is it that you are waiting for. Don't you know that the kingdom of heaven is within you and "Christ in you, the hope of glory." Believe what is WRITTEN.

[@tentmaker777]

Why would anyone want to go back into shadows, when the light has come? Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

[@tentmaker777]

People say God can't stand to be in the presence of Sin. Now THAT is a tradition of men that makes the word of God of no effect. Jesus was God in the flesh. He ate with sinners, lived with them. "He who knew no sin BECAME sin." He "tasted death for everyone." So while your "tradition" might sound right to you because you heard it so often from Hellfire and damnation preachers, it's a lie. After all, chances are you are still very much in sin and I bet you will say God lives in you. Right? THINK!

[@MsBREATHOFLIFE]

In Ecclesiastics that is the death book it's said in that book that when a person dies there's no DISCHARGE in that battle of death. A person can't come back from the dead and ask for forgiveness, it's got to be done now, this is the dressing room before we die. And yes I love my enemies and I do good to those who persecuted me. But they must be born again in this life time. God is bigger than any man women or child, how do you think God is going let them write lies? It can't be done.

[@dabmclovin3632]

There is no one lost therefore there is no one I need to save god

[@DavidElCid300]

But are those who have believed on Jesus as Messiah distinguished from the non believers who have rejected the Messiah (even though they may not go to hell)?

[@tentmaker777]

@believerinchrist83 "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Would you like to see Paul, the apostle burning in Hell? He was a murderer of Christians! Really, sir or maam, what makes you think you are better than murderers? Since when was it that 'good people" go to heaven and bad people go to Hell. Have you completely forgotten, "By grace are you saved...it is a gift...NOT of works lest you be found boasting. And that IS what you are presently doing boasting in your righteousness

[@LionandlambministryJesusSaves]

AMEN! Multitudes are deceived by the religious leaders of this day who tell their deluded followers that it makes very little difference what they believe. But remember Christ said, “If ye BELIEVE not that I am, ye shall die in your sins.” John 8:24 . “With the heart, man BELIEVETH unto righteousness.” Romans 10:10 . Never can a man become a Christian except by BELIEVING the Record that God hath given concerning His Son. Every sinner MUST BELIEVE the same thing in order to become a Christian.

[@shareetempleton]

Just realised this bideo is so old I hope the wife is by now in agreement 😊

[@tentmaker777]

This is a place to leave a brief comment and then go your way. If Zach or you wish to have a continuous, thoughtful, engaging discussion, this is not the place. And perhaps you should watch some of my videos regarding Zondervan, Harper Collins and Strong's concordance before you make comments like you made. You really are putting both feet in your mouth.

[@kryzaly]

I'm puzzled why tentmaker777 would post videos of Richard Wurmbrand on their channel when Wurmbrand was not a universalist.

[@tentmaker777]

Tentmaker contains a lot more material regarding life and Christianity besides the subject of universal salvation through Jesus Christ. While Richard Wurmbrand did not take a stand for universal salvation through his ministry I sent him some material and spoke with him by phone. I think his heart was more inclined to the message than what one may think. His ministry from what I've heard from Richard's son, has been hijacked by administrators who don't have the kind of heart Richard had.

[@tentmaker777]

No, just please don't try to turn this into a discussion board. That is not it's purpose, it's for comments.

[@tentmaker777]

@jvsm1971 visit the tentmaker . org site and then click on the second audio button and listen to the mpg entitled "God is love." "Perfect Love Casts Out Fear." Your mind is so saturated with fear that you are afraid of Love. Your afraid of abandoning yourself to God.