I Bet You Didn’t Know This!!! // Cant Hook vs. Peavey

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Working Horses With Jim

Working Horses With Jim

2 жыл бұрын

Today a friend of ours, Leo, is here to show some different cant hooks and peaveys that he has been making. He is sharing a lot of info that I bet you didn't know about these tools! He explains the differences between a cant hook and a peavey and how each tool is used in logging and in sawing.
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@plainsimple442
@plainsimple442 2 жыл бұрын
My guess was a spud for peeling logs. We peeled Aspen logs for all kinds of projects around the farm as they were plentiful. In southern Maine, Aspen is the first tree to come back after cutting off the timber.
@ryansetter9014
@ryansetter9014 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a hemlock peeling spud to me.
@plainsimple442
@plainsimple442 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryansetter9014 Ryan, I've also seen them without the hook.
@davidmunro1469
@davidmunro1469 2 жыл бұрын
That orange paint is a good idea. Thanks Jim.
@krisdelong8773
@krisdelong8773 2 жыл бұрын
I have my Grandfathers Peavey and I use it for firewood, I live two hours north of Brewer, Maine where these are manufactured. I also have a spud, and a couple of pulp hooks. Love antique tools, As a young boy I sat and listened to my grandfather talk to his pals about farming with horses along with the horse drawn equipment. Great memories! All of my kids know what these tools are for. Love your videos!
@plainsimple442
@plainsimple442 2 жыл бұрын
Kris, Keep those tools, you may need to use them with the way things are going. A real Maineac, Rick
@Bortnoone
@Bortnoone 2 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm is infectious
@noelmartyn9034
@noelmartyn9034 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's a bill hook. The hook end cuts briars and light branches and the back straight side is for bigger bushes.
@cathiwim
@cathiwim 2 жыл бұрын
I think(here in East TN) a bill hook is wider and looks like a capital letter J.
@tylerwells8314
@tylerwells8314 2 жыл бұрын
The term spud is used for potatoes because of the tool the Irish used for planting them. It was similar to the debarking tool , they pushed it into the ground with their foot and made a hole for the seed potato to go into. Then they pulled the tool out and stamped the dirt back over the seed potato.
@dennisruggles9047
@dennisruggles9047 2 жыл бұрын
We made a spud out of old leaf spring .and I still have my grandfathers grind stone plus several peeves
@royolstad8532
@royolstad8532 2 жыл бұрын
If I have logs laying stacked in a pile, I can use the peavey point to get between them, pry one log up, block it, pry it up, block it, until you can get under it to roll it, or buck it off.
@tinachambers4887
@tinachambers4887 2 жыл бұрын
The old ways are still in use all around the world great information have a great day love from TEXAS
@4PeTe2
@4PeTe2 2 жыл бұрын
wow, what a treasure trove of information - tools are fascinating in their use and development - thanks Jim - more like this. enjoy your harness and shoeing videos since they have to do with your horses and farm work
@rogermorel2888
@rogermorel2888 2 жыл бұрын
these are perfect tools for you Jim.good day
@sharynhay9993
@sharynhay9993 2 жыл бұрын
I come from generations of lumberjacks in Maine and New Brunswick. I loved reading the comments and watching the unique content as didn't know any of it.
@woodchuck1946
@woodchuck1946 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting information. I think the dents in the aluminum bat was from a boy using it with rocks because the neighbor kept his baseball after it broke his window. 😆 I made a peavey out of a cant hook by inserting a harrow tooth into the end. Works very well. Brenda, you are a very good videographer. Thanks. Try and stay warm while the men chat away. 😊
@openrangelivestockguarddog4041
@openrangelivestockguarddog4041 2 жыл бұрын
Billhook for clearing brush. *after watching the video: a very interesting specialty tool. Kind of a hybrid between a bill hook and a barking spud. Great information and history of logging tools. Thanks for the creative content!
@Paige0557
@Paige0557 2 жыл бұрын
So good to of Leo to share his knowlege on camera, seeing him and Jim getting animated while talking about there tools of their trade and the similar life experiences in the lifestyle they love. Thank you kind gents
@frankmillett
@frankmillett 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Jim. I couldn’t imaging what the tool was used for . As they say , you learn something new everyday. Thanks . Stay warm !
@chrislittlefarm
@chrislittlefarm 2 жыл бұрын
Never have seen that tool before, very interesting! We are debarking lots of spruce logs because of bark beetles, but use a very different tool for that.
@jimchuk8511
@jimchuk8511 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't stop the video but was kind of thinking it was for pealing pulp. I did peal a cord of balsam for a friend in the late 60s and that was enough for me. Pitch from one end to the other, hard work and very little pay. We used a draw knife or a piece of leaf spring that was sharpened on one side. Enjoy your videos. Thanks for doing them! Jim
@jerrystott7780
@jerrystott7780 2 жыл бұрын
The spud we used for debarking logs in north Idaho didn't have a hook on it. This looks like it's handy, but we didn't have the right tree species to need that style, our debarking was for cabin building. Have a great day.
@willbass2869
@willbass2869 2 жыл бұрын
What a fun & lively video. Leo was a great guest and I hope his 'side-hustle' of aluminum handled peaveys is profitable. Jim was pretty animated between remembering the name of the spud and how the new peavey will fit 'just right' on the cart. The intro of an occasional guest like Leo and Andy adds a dash of spice to the channel. Keep it up.
@sueflynn9886
@sueflynn9886 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, thank you for sharing. What a wonderful world, I can sit in bed in Somerset, UK watching you guys chatting about peeling poplar bark and a host of other things - best way to end the day!! So interesting xx🇬🇧
@joepond9587
@joepond9587 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Great Visitor. Lots of good information.
@terryschlais5087
@terryschlais5087 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed this is a spud. This tool has been used to peel many cords of Aspen or poplar in the Midwest in the spring time of the year. Thanks for bring back some of the memories.
@johnking8679
@johnking8679 2 жыл бұрын
WOW, it's amazing the things we learn on your channel, Jim !! Thanks for sharing !!
@donnadavis1058
@donnadavis1058 2 жыл бұрын
How fun to watch and listen to Jim talk shop/lumberjacking.
@j.ericswede7084
@j.ericswede7084 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating discussion of logging and milling tools. My Grandfather would have used them in North Idaho in the early 1900's.
@Bearsgypsy1
@Bearsgypsy1 2 жыл бұрын
🇮🇪☘️🇺🇸 I LOVE watching … that’s a cane hook , used here in the Southern areas for cutting cane / sugarcane … but love your honesty and down to earth use what you have make it work common sense farming… sharing knowledge is how we survive!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪
@brandonking2826
@brandonking2826 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Brewer Maine and I remember using a Peavey and still do today. People always asked me the same thing. Why do I call it a Peavey and I said it was invented in Maine. The peavey manufacturing is also next door to Peavey mill in Eddington maine on route 9.
@LeeADKMOBILEMILLING
@LeeADKMOBILEMILLING 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. I am planning a trip to Maine this summer. I will have to look them up
@brandonking2826
@brandonking2826 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeeADKMOBILEMILLING If you want good scenery driving around in Maine. I recommend Bar Harbor , Deer Isle, Castine , Stoningtone, moose head lake and maybe Portland.
@railroadman57
@railroadman57 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Jim I have used all those tools for years logging and at our sawmill and did not know any of this history about them thank you very much for this enlightening lesson on these tools thank you so much !
@Kristine6188
@Kristine6188 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing about those tools. I found that very informative and really enjoyed the video. I didn't know what either one was.
@elvinirons5959
@elvinirons5959 Жыл бұрын
Another very interesting video, those can’t hooks n pevys are great tools , thanks for sharing your knowledge !!!👏
@ronnierigsby6360
@ronnierigsby6360 2 жыл бұрын
Well I don't know what it is I have not worked in the woods but I look forward to seeing your videos so keep them coming God Bless you and keep worm out there Jim
@fredjohnston7417
@fredjohnston7417 2 жыл бұрын
It is a spuding iron used to peal the bark off the pulp or logs.
@rosthi
@rosthi 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Had not seen a spud before. Educational
@edgarchew3353
@edgarchew3353 2 жыл бұрын
Best place to find used baseball bats is a garage sale. Another place would be to contact the coaches of the local Little League. Players are always moving up on bats. When my son stopped playing, we had three or four that went in the garage sale for $2 each.
@richardhessert7862
@richardhessert7862 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the knowledge of you both. I have can't hook that has a spike on the end and don't like it as much as the ones without. Great video
@claudedesnoyers8545
@claudedesnoyers8545 2 жыл бұрын
When you first let us look at it, I thought it was a pickaroon ,but when you mention the sharp edge I thouth it was to cut small branches. Now I will restart the video and find out exactly what iy is used for.
@rodneywroten2994
@rodneywroten2994 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT INFORMATION
@nicfrieler1305
@nicfrieler1305 2 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO!!!! So much great information. Thanks for that.
@zachmaedkemaedke9516
@zachmaedkemaedke9516 2 жыл бұрын
It is used for peeling poppel. My mom and grandpa always used to do peel it in the spring during the 90s in Michigan.
@billandkathihensel3087
@billandkathihensel3087 2 жыл бұрын
afternoon Jim I have seen but never used A spud, I was told by my father who worker in the woods (in the Adirondacks) when he was young, I was told it was used A lot for peeling Hemlock logs when they used A lot of hemlock bark for tanning in the leather mills in johns town and Gloversville for example ( in the old days) keep up your videos' I enjoy them, even thought I have never worked horses
@johnbaskett2309
@johnbaskett2309 2 жыл бұрын
Peeled tamarack stal used for mine timbers as a kid. The spuds were much longer. Worked our butts off all day for a ten dollar bill.
@GravelGutz
@GravelGutz 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Cornwall Ontario and use to love to see the logging trucks coming down the bridge. Log peeler looks Japanese style woodwork chisel. Thanks for sharing 🐴🪓🪵
@paulwilson2466
@paulwilson2466 2 жыл бұрын
We use to peel tamarck poles in the spring to use for building poles with a long handled spud.
@marybausch2885
@marybausch2885 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. I like watching logging videos. It is something that I can't do.
@gonzokompadre
@gonzokompadre 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative. Thanks
@filmbluff99
@filmbluff99 2 жыл бұрын
Looks similar to a bill-hook that is used in England for laying hedges, clearing brambles, and the heavier ones can be used for splitting kindling. There are regional variations in the design of bill-hooks, some with county names. Laying hedges is cutting partly through a live stem near the ground, and bending the stem over, almost horizontal, then repeating on the next stem to make a stock proof hedge. The job is completed by adding vertical hazel stakes through the hedge into the ground and then twisting long briars or creepers along the top .😀🇬🇧
@momclean
@momclean 2 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for this post, I learned this type of hedging exactly as you've described, as an Agricultural student on a traditional farm in Northumberland ,England..thanks for bringing this memory back..
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good deal. Enjoyed the video as always even without the horses. Interesting information all around.
@RealJohnWayne
@RealJohnWayne 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there Jim, I hope you're all well and good! A whalers harpoon came before the Peavey, and its influence is undeniable when you look at the Peavey, plus the harpoon would've been common in the New England Area. 🐳🐋 I hope y'all have a good one! 🐎👍🇺🇸
@johncocking5363
@johncocking5363 2 жыл бұрын
Jim this is a delimber tool strike like an axe and pull small limbs off the trunk of the tree. John in Missouri Valley Iowa
@randybutler4772
@randybutler4772 2 жыл бұрын
Live and learn. Thank you for sharing.
@Zeke-yv3nw
@Zeke-yv3nw 2 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting! Great video.
@stevejackson8600
@stevejackson8600 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I learned the names of those tools.
@barrybracegirdle2931
@barrybracegirdle2931 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you for sharing. 👍 😃
@mickholroyd2190
@mickholroyd2190 2 жыл бұрын
wow..another great video..did not know about the "spud"..you are right about the sap running at the growth time to loosen the bark ..when debarking fence posts I normally use the back of an axe to bruise the bark n the front to peel..but can see what great tool the spud would be..
@WorkingHorsesWithJim
@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
@elizabethrobinson3608
@elizabethrobinson3608 2 жыл бұрын
My great uncle used a tool just like this (the handle was longer and made from ash) to cut branches as part of laying field hedges. To my recollection he called it a bill hook or “slasher”. It is not something that is used nowadays, hedges are all cut by mechanical means and as a result the hedges don’t need laying anymore. Posting from UK
@ronhaworth5471
@ronhaworth5471 2 жыл бұрын
Hi.Good to learn something.Thanks for enlightenment.
@jimprescott8423
@jimprescott8423 2 жыл бұрын
A bilhook,definitely, we use to see them on every farm in England, winter hedging tool,
@joycehennequin8469
@joycehennequin8469 2 жыл бұрын
Shaving bark of trees 😂 l really don't know,thankyou for showing and sharing with us Leo.
@calparsons2502
@calparsons2502 2 жыл бұрын
The other tree species that was de barked extensively with a spud was hemlock, they used it in the tanning of leather process. It was a big business years ago.
@oldcountryman6987
@oldcountryman6987 2 жыл бұрын
In our area, they called that tool a spud. It was used to peel bark.
@Cornishaich
@Cornishaich 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you both.
@UlsterScot17
@UlsterScot17 2 жыл бұрын
In Northern Ireland and Scotland that tool you got has few names, hedge knife, bill hook. Slasher.
@LuisRodriguez-sc1oq
@LuisRodriguez-sc1oq 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education 🙂, Love 💕 your videos 💓
@douglasbruce1713
@douglasbruce1713 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@darrelreibson8738
@darrelreibson8738 2 жыл бұрын
The bark spud was used in Pennsylvania in the1800's to peal bark from the Hemlock logs. The bark was used in the tannery to tan leather. The log was left in the woods to rot.
@perleybowen7794
@perleybowen7794 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bark spud. It was used to take the bark of hemlock logs. Which was used in the tannery industry.
@steverhea2930
@steverhea2930 2 ай бұрын
I’m a fanatic of Vintage Canhooks and Peveys. I have close to 30. I clean the steel using Electrolysis. I clean the handles up and use Fractal Wood Burning on my handles then finish. I don’t re-sale. I’m decorating my great grandparents old home place that’s over 100 years old I’m redoing. This is only a hoddy. I’m a 35 year Commercial Refrigeration Tech by trade. But out of all my old antique restoration, Can-Hooks and Peveys are my favorite
@johnkomosa9508
@johnkomosa9508 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is a log debarking tool. Used to remove bark from logs. I have never used one that I remember though I may have and forgot , it's been so long. I would like to use one sometime just to see how they work compared to a dull shovel, that is what I use, a shovel with a long handle, a flat shovel or spade will work, I prefer a long handle but use what you have. I have peeled a lot of cedar poles, you just pull like string cheese, long strips, and I peeled spruce and birch and others but never used this "right" tool..maybe some day. It appears to be in very good used shape, well taken care of. Thanks.., Ok, I have finished the video and back. I was excited to see this because this yr. I finally got my own Cant hook and peavey, I put my own handles on and they are hefty at the top but I can trim them down, but I like them as is for now. Thanks for explaining the difference between the cant and Peavey as I was figuring it out on my own but you propelled me forward, both you fellas. I prefer wood as I am big on wood, and I'd buy Jim's old hook with the tape on it just like that, because it is genuine and Jim's. It will be worth big bucks some day, leave it as is.. ah ha, joking but true.. But anyways, great video and I was wondering about that spud hook, I would figure it out, but now I know. A video on the Spud and Cant Peavey hooks, mana from Heaven, I Love it thanks guys.. be careful Jim you don't trip on that peavey, its going to set different and take a couple days to get used to , muscle memory. .., maybe not but, caution. I should e-mail you a picture of the 2 I made and a grapple log tong that got a new handle. I custom widdel my own handles and use a horse rasp file to fine shape the wooden horn. I'll take the wood over aluminum any day but I don't have your breaking experience, a Man needs to know the limits of his tools and machinery or you will break it. When you have to buy your own, then you will learn, or in my case widdel your own handle , fun, but a lot of work. Like a hydraulic relief valve, protect the machine by setting limits. Nice idea on that aluminum handle, good job Gentleman and Thank You, both your families (Dads/parents) for your service in the woods. Thumbs up to the camera lady.. Love it.. Please...Stay safe. You are Loved by many.
@thomastonelli3272
@thomastonelli3272 2 жыл бұрын
I have read a book called Tough Men Tall Trees. They talk about the peavy and the cant hook, it seems like the camp blacksmith to change the angle of it so that it would grip better
@kenhilgart4578
@kenhilgart4578 2 жыл бұрын
Hemlock spud. We peeled hemlock for the bark, was used for tanning leather and forge fuel for blacksmith heat treating. The hook was used to slice the bark lengthwise and the head then placed perpendicular into the slice to peel the bark. Strictly a summertime affair…deer fly season
@jimcurrier3922
@jimcurrier3922 Жыл бұрын
They also used the point on log-jambs on river drives,and the point came in handy to keep your balance when walking on logs in the water.
@jerryjarrell206
@jerryjarrell206 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Jim its a gaff hook for removing bark people that build log cabins use them that would be my guess
@wayner6494
@wayner6494 2 жыл бұрын
that was interesting, loved it.
@alexcarr8503
@alexcarr8503 Жыл бұрын
I have a couple spuds. I peel a few popple every year for fire wood. Leave it full length with the leaves and limbs on all summer and fall. It dries out nice and burns great. In this area, in the old days pulpwood needed to be peeled and it was only spruce and fir the mill wanted. The pulpmill was in St John New Brunswick. Old spuds are common in sheds and barns in this area.
@lloydspencer1139
@lloydspencer1139 2 жыл бұрын
It is a Spuds. Used to peel bark off logs to make them easier to skid through he woods with horses.
@donpeterson9282
@donpeterson9282 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I totally blew that one. I have only used a draw knife for debarking a log however the only logs I worked on were pine. I also found a "Felled Bark Spud Debarking Tool" for sale on the internet. They were not as nice as the one you showed us however it appeared to be very similar to the one you showed us.
@briannapier8337
@briannapier8337 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Jim
@lowellsewell3192
@lowellsewell3192 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always
@jistpassinthru
@jistpassinthru 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bark spud, used to remove bark from logs.
@herbhouston5378
@herbhouston5378 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@paulcoomber4009
@paulcoomber4009 2 жыл бұрын
It's a long handled handbill or bill hook used for hedge laying in the UK. Fenner in Sussex used to press them out of truck axles.
@edwardroberts2997
@edwardroberts2997 2 жыл бұрын
Great video,thanks
@johnhenderson299
@johnhenderson299 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@richhiway
@richhiway 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bark spud. Peavey is still in business in Maine. Nice tools.
@taylordouglass1357
@taylordouglass1357 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather peeled softwood pulp in New Brunswick Canada they called them spuds made them out of old leaf springs
@plainsimple442
@plainsimple442 2 жыл бұрын
Taylor, Did they use them like a draw knife or push them like a fleshing tool?
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Жыл бұрын
@@plainsimple442 push like fleshing.
@shirleyhall3880
@shirleyhall3880 2 жыл бұрын
it's used in England for working on live hedges
@sueheaman7186
@sueheaman7186 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and educational. Really into history of things🙌🏼 I really like Peavey Marts here in Alberta🇨🇦
@leahcushman5290
@leahcushman5290 Жыл бұрын
Grew up in the Maine woods and have seen the log peeler in use.
@philipeyraud5316
@philipeyraud5316 2 жыл бұрын
it is a bill hook used for building hazel fences in england.
@ronharrison1776
@ronharrison1776 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting stuff.
@momclean
@momclean 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw it I said billhook - certainly the business end is shaped the same as the billhook we used for cutting.and chopping thin branches, briers, gorse and the like..😀
@davewallace.8303
@davewallace.8303 2 жыл бұрын
My grandpa called that a Sugar Beet hook, for harvesting beets to make sugar (obviously). Never used one but it looks like a LOT of work!
@lindamcneely8863
@lindamcneely8863 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bark spud. Used to remove the bark from logs.
@jipjojed
@jipjojed 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Жыл бұрын
Peeling spud used them in the spring time for peeling popple as the paper mills paid extra for it as they did not have to debark before getting ground up, the bark slipped real easy in the spring when sap was running so much so that the logs were slippery and had to be left until summer to dry up otherwise they would almost slip of the pulp trucks. Ever use pulp hooks for hand stacking pulp wood?
@arkiefyler
@arkiefyler 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I now know what I'm getting the wife for her birthday!!I I think the Cant" will be great for moving furniture so she can vacuum better!! 🤪
@MichaelSmith-hs5iu
@MichaelSmith-hs5iu 2 жыл бұрын
It's for topping out trees after they are cut down. The blade cuts off small limbs and the hook helps you pull the brush away.
@Footstool48
@Footstool48 2 жыл бұрын
Locust peels nicely, too
@RichardThompson-gc1cf
@RichardThompson-gc1cf 2 жыл бұрын
Have no idea but looks great
@WorkingHorsesWithJim
@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guess!
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