I bought 4 touchscreen bike computers so you don’t have to...

[@Porsche_Haus]

Your sarcasm is spot on. More reviews, you got style 👍

[@deanwilkendorf5304]

I just recently purchased the Garmin Edge 830. The main reason is I don't have a Smart Phone, and it still gives me the information I want, INCLUDING Navigation! I have been on several 4 hour rides, and the battery is still in the 70% range at the end. I also like the road hazard warning that informs me when a hard turn is coming up. I love this purchase.

[@BananaChipzzz]

Had the Karoo2. I liked it, but so many little things drove me nuts. Got the Garmin 1040, and it’s just a better device all around. The speed of the interface, the screen is better at equal brightness, the lack of needing a sim card, and the insane battery life made me sell the Karoo…

[@ChrisP978]

The best cycling review channel out there. Creating entertaining content out of pretty boring subjects 😀

[@jeffreysaffir1375]

Sold my Garmin Edge 830 a few months ago and purchased the Hammerhead Karoo 2. Zero regrets. Much prefer the Karoo 2 for my purposes for many reasons.

[@steveindorset]

Without doubt you are the funniest cycling KZbinr! How you don't have 100k subs is beyond me??? Great review. I was badly burned a "crashing Garmin", so became a big Wahoo convert, (they just work!!) I was seriously looking at a new Roam V2. But having watch this and your dedicated review of the Karoo2, I'm now seriously looking at one of those. My only fear is that it doesn't actually connect to your phone, having gotten used to the "Wahoo way" Keep the hilarious vids coming.👍👍👍

[@drsus0]

the garmin fitness/training metrics and ecosystem is the one and only reason im stuck with garmin regardless of how it compares to other units...thankfully the unit is top notch to boot,

[@g4rymw110]

Swopped out my Garmin 530 for the 830 , so much easier setting up without having to mess around with the buttons I just found that frustrating, 830 does me fine now happy with it ,

[@adamcoatham]

I’m a user (and fan!) of the Edge 530. I used to have the 810 but after years of use the touchscreen started to deteriorate. I was intending to buy the 830 to replace, but on doing research, saw the price gap between that and the cheaper 530, which only really “sacrifices” the touch screen for button controls. I won’t lie, the button functionality took some getting used to, but once I did, I was very pleased with that choice. Thanks for the video, great to see the different devices side by side.

[@mvzpodcast]

I hate that my 530 repeatedly prevents me from stopping the timer

[@deggers78]

Totally agree love my 530 great kit for the price

[@fabianbinder3681]

I bought my 530 really cheap (back was broken, managed to fix it with my 3d printing pen). I commute in every weather, so touchscreens are a dealbreaker. I love this little device! But boy, it was the least intuitive piece of tech that has stayed in my possession since a very long time!

[@robinrai4973]

I got an iGPSport iGS630 as my very first computer recently, and I really like it - £130 with basic but good screen, ui, app and navigation Nice coverage/video!

[@Daimoku1938]

buy a decent computer... not Chinese junk and shit !!!

[@glennoc8585]

I had the igpsport 618, USB port died after couple of years but it was well featured apart from an average battery. I've heard the 630 is very good for the money

[@Daimoku1938]

very good to know...

[@Daimoku1938]

630 ??? buy Garmin or wahoo...if u buy Chinese shit u pay the double of the price because soon it will be broken and u have to buy another one...

[@demonsteps]

I'm on IGS630 too 😁 love it so far!

[@redalert2834]

Get a smartphone with a GPS sensor for a fraction of the price. You can freely download maps for offline use and save yourself a fortune. Plus you get a camera for free, and a way of calling for help when you break down.

[@glowingeye]

I don't even have a suitable bike I could use one for, so I'm totally not in the market, but your great humor made me stay and watch the video. So I enjoyed it :) And if I were about to buy a bike computer, this video would be useful, so thanks in case that happens at some point. What bothers me, though, is the price of these computers and I'm sure that many people will agree. It's just that - I can buy a smartphone for less money. I don't, to be fair, but I could. It wouldn't have all the features of a bike computer, but a bike computer doesn't need all the features of a smartphone. So I feel like dropping prices across the board would be possible. Nothing that you or me can change, of course, so it's in no way critique for this video.

[@keefeere]

came from bolt 2 to 1040 non solar and happy! Navigation is the best!

[@ZotmundSzele]

I am not a hardcore rider - I have to start with that. I have tried many of these but always ended up using my phone. To mount it, I stick a quarter-turn Garmin adapter to the back of pretty good quality silicon case and use a Garmin mount on the handle bar. My phone just gives much more visibility on what's around me, it's bigger and I can charge it during a ride if I need to. OK, the head units are more durable and waterproof but they are all just so small for me.

[@wujBat]

I love your sense of humour 😊

[@Ingenieur-Ente]

Just got the Karoo 2 for 200€ and for this price it is just a no brainer I would say 👌🏼

[@Sportivecyclist]

Yeah, great value. Presumably the 3 must be on the way soonish (no idea).

[@raykleiner3151]

Nice review. I went for the Karoo2 and apart from those weaknesses you mentioned (i.e.battery time) it is easy to use, robust and the climbing feature is surprisingly useful as is find your way home.

[@radekkuszyk]

I am rather touristic rider. Using Garmin Explore I was frustrated so many times with its stupid and snail slow rerouting. Also colors of the map togethr with mirror effect of the screen made its readability very poor. Then I bought Karoo 2. I am very impressed by its overall performance: build quality, screen, great rerouting, route modification directly on the device during ride. Battery life, when you choose dark theme and battery save mode is far exceeding my needs for whole day rides.

[@Peakabike]

Karoo is indeed tempting but I guess I'm used to Garmin stuff...the 530 is rather decent if annoyingly to interact with at times, the upcoming 840 should sort that with its touch interface. Oh and, well done for another entertaining video !

[@henseleric]

I went from a 520 to an 830. The touchscreen is brilliant.

[@singlecask]

I updated from an Edge 830 to the Karoo 2 for one single reason: It‘s impossible to sync new routes from Komoot or other platforms while tracking with the Garmin. You have to stop tracking and start a new track. If you want to change your route on the fly: Doesn’t work with the 830. So far, I like the Karoo and don’t regret the switch. Firmware (and battery life) kept improving over the last year. Had some lost tracks with the Garmin, didn’t happen with the Karoo so far.

[@Peakabike]

@@singlecask Actually there is a workaround by using the SendPoints widget and typing in a Garmin Route ID that you can create on your smartphone while you're out and about.

[@colinjava8447]

You can get a remote for the 530, it has 3 buttons, but I only use the start/stop and next screen button

[@Peakabike]

You can use the top buttons on your Di2 ro change pages too. The problem with the 530 is the map which is basically unusable in a pinch. A touch screen is a must for that.

[@leedorney]

I've got a k2 and ok I give HH a hard time on the community forum they've got, it works, been thru total hell 37'c and -5c the mapping is pretty great and will record all what you need every metric going...just charge it every other ride 👌

[@whazzat8015]

Best screen going. Buy what you need and you'll be happy.

[@bikedockbicycles]

I've got an edge 1000. Cost £70. Might not be the newest but still super capable and does everything I need

[@colinjava8447]

That's a bargain, I've got a 530 in the sale for £160, and a second hand garmin varia for £90.

[@bikedockbicycles]

@@colinjava8447 Funny you should say that. I got it just after Christmas. The prices have clearly gone up since then because it was about the going rate and I've been looking for another one but doesn't seem to be a chance at that £70 again. I put it down to the time of year. People are thinking of getting back out on their bikes again.

[@gabeh7655]

This was a wildly entertaining review. Love all of your videos.

[@bachbaby6996]

Sure, I'm an eccentric, but I, for one, approve of your verbal style!

[@Ni1zz]

Watched your review on Karoo2 and bought it on black Friday. So far I'm enjoying it. But sometimes climbing graph just starts later then the actual climb. I wish it would have a gps 2.0 and a better battery. Other than that its perfect.

[@whazzat8015]

All bike computers are buggy. Karoo is a good one. 3 yrs in, Keep it tethered , learn put up with it. Nobody does it better and they have a great following and service.

[@deanwilkendorf5304]

I love the comparison you have given. Seeing your bike at 10:02, could you do a comparison on handlebar tape next? :D

[@pawel281281]

🤣

[@Saxtoo]

I just picked up a used 830 for £45 because the seller mistitled it as a Garmin SatNav. It's my first one.

[@diegoeleazar9154]

For me the main selling point of edge 830 and 1030+ is the onboard navigation.

[@monday223]

also learned a new term called Upper Decking in this useful and informative vid

[@Sportivecyclist]

I like to think I struck the right balance with the level of profanity on that one.

[@jimbrittain402]

Imma need to do some more homework into that Karoo 2.

[@whazzat8015]

They all have bugs. Buy what you need and you'll be happy. Karoo x 3 years and quite pleased.

[@damFr]

The Karoo 2 is on sale. It is a massive deal breaker. But I am wondering 🤔 isn’t it because Karoot v3 is coming soon? Do we have a date or info around the next iteration of Hamerhead GPS? Smartphone market is so fast component are cheaper and better every day, Hammer has for me the best strategy. Nice video!

[@glennoc8585]

I don't like the big screen computers by Garmin, but I could live with the Karoo I think.

[@drlodge]

What a tippitty top review, loved it and very informative 👍👍

[@s0012823]

hahaha, first part is the shitshow we all have been in when looking for a new bike gps. Excel sheets, comparison tables. evening after evening looking for the best computer for the best price. I hate marketeers!

[@mydearriley]

i have ocd and shopping and comparing random items is certainly a compulsion of mine. however it can also be a big problem for other people too - value your time by NOT browsing forums and youtube videos for tidbits of gear advice!

[@captaincoyote1792]

Man, you are too funny! I love that term s##tshow! Love it. Though it got me in little hot water with my idiot neighbor, when I told my Aussie while watching said idiot trying to direct a large FedEx van in his drive way, “c’mon dog, let’s watch this s##tshow!” Hot water was comforting…and the gloves came off!

[@Fetucinee]

There are more screens mounted on Sportive Cyclist's bars than in Mission Control in Houston. All that telemetry just to ride a bike.

[@njcranes]

Thanks for the review! Very entertaining

[@Sportivecyclist]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@skinwalker_]

Touch screens are great in summer. Winter with wet gloves they all suck even with gloves that are meant to work with them. I may take a closer at a the Wahoo.

[@WoodworkingCyclist]

I just buy one... Edge 830...and dont need else for now... Not too big, does everything I need, last 20hours...that's it..

[@theflyingfossil2146]

brill, and funny. keep up the good work.

[@Sportivecyclist]

Thanks, will do!

[@AwesomeAngryBiker]

only prob now is you done a review on a discontinued model(edge 1030 series)

[@roymccarthy8022]

Thank you for your review. Informative and entertain boxes checked! What are your thoughts on the somewhat pedestrian Garmin Explore 2?

[@keikoyoshioka3872]

This bike was really easy to assemble kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.

[@rhuggins573]

LOL, Brilliant..."it's all gone to sh!t"! :)

[@checkitout611]

What would you recommend if you do NOT want to pair with your smart phone? Something self contained with on board GPS that simply tracks speed, distance and has maps on board.

[@monday223]

I prefer the Wahoo for its app integration and for its 19 hour battery life

[@russianoldschoorblx2759]

You are hilarious, thanks for the great insight 🎉

[@Asthbendriel]

Is there any power pack for the Karoo 2? I mainly like what it offers, but the battery life is a no for me. I do long MTB rides (which take longer than an average road ride for the same distance) and 8 hours barely scratches what I have done already, and that is brand-new battery. On the other side, I have owned a Garmin Edge 830 for over a year now and whilst I like most of it, I do not like some interactions with the touch screen and the touch screen lock, and how reflective the screen is, which makes it complicated to navigate sometimes in the trails because of the reflections, and I need to slow down or stop altogether, so I can see which path to follow. I was looking to change my Garmin Edge 830 for the Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM v2, but a touch screen is always a good option to navigate, specially if it is matte like the one on the Hammerhead Karoo 2.

[@Sportivecyclist]

I think you can connect the Karoo to an external power pack but there isn't a dedicated solution like the Garmin charge power pack. They should do a battery shaped like a bike light that you can attach to your handlebars using a light fitting, with a short wire to the bike computer. Maybe one exists but I can't find it with light Googling. Maybe this should be my startup idea that will make me a bazillionaire....

[@StanicEnemy]

love ur vids

[@angelwings197]

Maybe one day I'll get to use it

[@kyle3570]

i love your humor 😂😂

[@Anfield_the_place_to_be]

I will buy the 1040, much faster and less laggy. Worth it for me when i will look at it almost as much as my phone

[@siomai3255]

Hi.. Just want to ask if should I buy edge for the 830 now or wait for edge 840?

[@JMcLeodKC711]

I got a ton out of this vid. I had never heard of an upper-decker

[@kmc6413]

My Garmin 510 is dying, what bike computer do you recommend ? I am satisfied with the longevity of my 510 which I bought in 2014, but now the plastic seems to have degraded and water went into it. The main thing I want is to display the power. I have a Garmin watch to record my rides for the moment. I'm leaning towards the 530. Bryton's are interesting too.

[@s0012823]

did you even watch the video????

[@quickreelbrand]

@@s0012823 no, he didn't. Answering his question, 530 is the best one overall

[@ForGlory1]

I appreciate this

[@hamwhacker]

How about using your phone

[@dorcashaslam4864]

Subscribed … just for the shits and giggles! Great review style 😂

[@wasupwitdat1mofiki94]

I have the 830. The main thing I don't like about it is the touch screen. I'll never buy a touch screen again. I should have got the 530 but I thought touch screen was going to be cool. Touch screen is not cool on a bicycle.

[@garyschneider1782]

After my second Garmin Edge 520 died unexpectedly I decided to try something different - the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt instead of the Garmin 530. Boy! I'm glad I did. kzbin.infoUgkxXZCtB-wGdHVTBSz8RswePK5vllHNi06N The display on the Wahoo Bolt is much easier to read. I like the configuration of the display more (up to 7 items visible on page 1 without scrolling and the first item chosen is larger characters than the next 3 rows that have pairs of items (still very readable). I also like the configurable item selections. The Bolt synced with my Garmin ANT+ Speed sensors on both bikes easily so no additional investment was required there. While the rated battery life is a couple hours less than the Garmin 520/530, I easily get a weeks worth of 1+ hour rides before recharging (and it's never really low on charge). At the end of a ride syncing to the Wahoo app, Strava, and Apple Health app is painless.

[@johbuldmann0206]

got the Bolt v2 a couple of weeks ago. thanks fur your previous videos! only thing is the navigation, I find it a little slow, the prompts are late by 20 or 30 meters. the "turn now" comes always after the turn is almost completed and not a couple of seconds before. do you guys have the same experience?

[@YannickLB]

No. You should get it checked. It can happen once in a while. But not all the time.

[@jenslaustenhansen3081]

I have same problem with my Wahoo Element Roam (old model). Every turn since I bought it 6 month ago.

[@ridelive6249]

Just watched for entertainment. I've been using a smartphone for years and it is just such a joy to use compared to all these clunky outdated slow computers. I got Garmin 1030 for half the price on sale, played with it and might just sell it. Even a $100 smartphone will smoke all these overpriced bike devices. And before you start talking about battery life and stuff, I can say that my old smartphone lasts four hours which is plenty for like 99% of people. Small battery pack in a top tube bag will give you plenty of extra hours if you need it. Bike packers and world travelers will probably appreciate 20h battery life but for us normal human beings' smart phone will do just fine. At least it has been doing for me for at least a decade or so.

[@Sam321go]

why the hell is your phone upsidedown in 12:37?

[@Sportivecyclist]

This seems like such an urgent question that I will establish the reason as soon as humanly possible.

[@karlschleifenbaum5793]

Does anybody know where to get a smartphone holder that is long so that the phone sits in front of the bar like with these bike computers? I can only find holders that put the phone on top of it.

[@rep7552]

Quadlock…. But they’re pricey… The case that you will need to hold your phone & attach to the mount are very good though.

[@karlschleifenbaum5793]

@@rep7552 Thanks, they don't offer a case for my phone, and I wouldn't buy that either because they lock you in into their ecosystem. I need a universally usable mount

[@cramedaddy8402]

I use SP Connect. The out front mtb one has more vibration dampening and does fit on my ovalized drop bars.

[@karlschleifenbaum5793]

@@cramedaddy8402 Looks good, thanks

[@Allegedly2right]

Not in a car so he can’t get done can he haha

[@brknglss7741]

00:47 subbed

[@Sportivecyclist]

Racks brain to remember what the hell I said at 47 seconds…

[@brknglss7741]

@@Sportivecyclist just some comedy