I Bought a RUINED Piece of Gibson History | 1978 Gibson "The SG" Original Prototype

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I bought a ruined piece of Gibson history for far too much money - but when it comes to 70s prototypes of popular models... you kind of have to take what you can get! This is the "The SG" Prototype that someone routed for a Kahler!
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:13 - Gibson's Budget Guitar History
1:20 - Unboxing
2:12 - Why You Would Buy a The SG
3:30 - Coil Split Switch? & The Paul Prototype
4:24 - Inside Look / Specs
17:10 - Clean Tones
19:18 - Dirty Tones
21:48 - Final Thoughts
23:02 - What to Watch Next!
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@Trog
@Trog Жыл бұрын
What is the coolest vintage prototype that you've seen? ❓Private Help Sessions: troglysguitarshow.com/help-appraisals/ 🟢My Website: www.troglysguitarshow.com 🔴Reverb: reverb.com/shop/troglys?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly
@jeromestevenfaigin6059
@jeromestevenfaigin6059 Жыл бұрын
Luthier are like happy kids and they want to showoff their skills, I like the Canadian Luthier he could blend the block to close to it's color.
@clarkbabin9799
@clarkbabin9799 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking that you could fill that area in by the bridge and do your own ebony block. And then you said it. Just looked up the Songbird museum and its definitely a destination I'd like to make. But don't know why they are in Chattanooga instead of Nashville or Kalamazoo.
@clarkbabin9799
@clarkbabin9799 Жыл бұрын
Most of them after market Kahlers and other trem systems I've seen were always set up to deep. Compared with a guitar that it was installed at the factory you can see the difference in height.
@mattyburrows9059
@mattyburrows9059 Жыл бұрын
Slashes..must be good coz Gibson sell copies of his copy
@mattyburrows9059
@mattyburrows9059 Жыл бұрын
​@@jeromestevenfaigin6059 so why hasn't the luthier fixed the same problems they've had for decades..angle on the headstock.make it less.the weak neck.multi laminate it and have it straight through like a bass
@peejay6930
@peejay6930 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a "crazy modifier" it was a "guitar player" 🙂
@vmann-jd5yw
@vmann-jd5yw Жыл бұрын
Agreed, not "some bonehead". It was a cheap Gibson at the time and not a "piece of history" The real boneheads are the idiots who spend half a million dollars for a guitar when anyone can spend one percent of that for superior playing instrument with finish that doesn't fade or crack and a headstock that won't break if we look at it incorrectly.
@russellmorgan5611
@russellmorgan5611 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did anyone else notice, the trem didn't actually affect the performance of the guitar despite the criticisms ?
@stewartross13
@stewartross13 Жыл бұрын
@@vmann-jd5ywTrogly continuing to boot lick Gibson into oblivion and calling players and people who make player-friendly modifications “ruining” and “crazy modifiers”
@jsnowdendavies
@jsnowdendavies Жыл бұрын
@@russellmorgan5611there were always stories of 80's trems sucking tone - this one sounded just fine and it seemed to do all the whammy dives and soars just like it should. I'd love an SG with a stud-mount Kahler!
@devilsguitaristmusic
@devilsguitaristmusic Жыл бұрын
​@vmann0207 The real boneheads are the ones that care about how much others spend on guitars or what guitars others have.
@mykehutchings
@mykehutchings Жыл бұрын
Who would’ve thought that somebody would take a guitar that sounds and plays amazingly well and actually play it - making it into the tool that they needed to express themselves…
@larrydj549
@larrydj549 Жыл бұрын
Hes a collector. He just wants to take them all and lock them away forever😂😂😂
@emdeel5709
@emdeel5709 11 ай бұрын
@@larrydj549 or sell them on with a massive profit and drive up the price with hype
@seanwoodburn2616
@seanwoodburn2616 Жыл бұрын
A lot of us were looking at those guitars as kids trying to get that first Les Paul. Keep in mind that the $200.00 difference now is nearly $1000.00, so it was a fairly significant difference for the target market. The Les Paul Standard listed at $749.00 The Paul listed at 529.00 so for a kid it was definitely more approachable. A very cool slice of history.
@frankwebster9110
@frankwebster9110 Жыл бұрын
Back when you could get a pack of smokes and a gallon of gas for just under 2 bucks...
@timscarrow9151
@timscarrow9151 Жыл бұрын
Got my LP in '82 used for 675.00. Got rid of a KILLER SG custom to get it though. Thank you Dad, I miss you.
@cataclysmicconverter
@cataclysmicconverter Жыл бұрын
Hey, don't feel bad, the Mod shop ruins 'em all the time!
@frankwebster9110
@frankwebster9110 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but, they are officially ruined lol
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar Жыл бұрын
@@frankwebster9110 Authentically ruined
@wesleyalan9179
@wesleyalan9179 Жыл бұрын
@@TylerJohnstonGuitar Lol😆
@WackyT08
@WackyT08 Жыл бұрын
Not ruined. It's a working person's guitar, not a "garage queen". If only it could tell it's stories.
@acoffeewithsatan
@acoffeewithsatan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this wouldn’t have been a particularly valuable nor sought after model for quite some time, more of an affordable guitar of the time. Its player enjoyed it but thought it lacked some extra features and so it was more reasonable to have it modded than sold to fund another purchase.
@derangedhermit2879
@derangedhermit2879 Жыл бұрын
It has a misaligned Khaler bridge improperly installed, to where it’s fully bottomed out with jacked up high action, it’s basically ruined as a workhorse main guitar, at best it could be relegated to a slide guitar with its high action…8)
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
WackyT08 but whoever installed it did a hack job of it so in a sense they did kind of ruin it
@brunswicksquaremusic5905
@brunswicksquaremusic5905 Жыл бұрын
People who work don’t want trash guitars either.
@matthewajello1299
@matthewajello1299 Жыл бұрын
I’m so sick of collectors like you shaming guys who modify bottom of the barrel guitars to suit their needs, guitars are meant to be played especially inexpensive ones like a the Paul or the sg, guitars are like people, they have stories and history and scars, they reflect their player. it’s not destroyed cuz someone put a kahler on it, just love it and play it as is and don’t hold a grudge against the guy who had it modified
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Its only because its rarity as a PROTOTYPE
@WilliamHaisch
@WilliamHaisch Жыл бұрын
You could fill the hole and route the top with a center channel, inlay a strip of figured maple so it looks like an *inverse spotlight special* 😂
@brandonjackson5865
@brandonjackson5865 Жыл бұрын
I actually think the Kahler looks pretty cool on it, I’d leave it alone and play it. It’s already a player anyway. I don’t think anything unless you wanted to paint it , filling it wouldn’t look as cool as the Kahler in my opinion. I normally don’t like SGs but that one is pretty awesome looking to me.
@timscarrow9151
@timscarrow9151 Жыл бұрын
They just don't play or intonate well, Mine is filled a has a Bigsby now.
@brandonjackson5865
@brandonjackson5865 Жыл бұрын
@@timscarrow9151 I’ve never fooled with a Kahler much but I’d imagine a bigsby would be a whole different kind of nightmare for me. I have really heavy hands and probably couldn’t keep one in tune even if I didn’t touch the bar.
@timscarrow9151
@timscarrow9151 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonjackson5865 I had to replace a falling bridge, and raised the bigsby off the body to decrease the angle, it works better than I thought, I also am ham-fisted.
@brandonjackson5865
@brandonjackson5865 Жыл бұрын
@@timscarrow9151 cool yeah I guess with the right angle across the bridge and good bridge slots and a nice nut a bigsby could probably be about as stable as any other non locking tremolo and they look really cool on some guitars too . Surprisingly I really love the way that flying Vs look with bigsbys on them. About the only trem I’ve ever had luck with is my old RG550 with an edge lo pro on it and as long as it’s set up correctly it’s rock solid reliable, I’ve been messing with a Wilkinson fender style trem I put on my Baretta special I got because I always wanted a single PU super Strat and even though I’ve got locking gotoh tuners and a graph tech nut my high e string won’t return to pitch and I see all these guys on you tube able to get theirs with supposedly stock hardware to return to pitch every time, but I think they all have to dump the bar or pull up to reset their standard trems to return to pitch. I’m stubborn and if they can do it why can’t I lol ? Even though I rarely use a bar except for just messing around anyway. I’m mechanical minded and can look at the parts and think ok this should all work but it doesn’t always and it can drive me mad if I let it. The older I get the more picky I am about intonation and fret buzzes and rattles , stuff that used to not bother me a lot, really annoys me being just a little off. You know ? Get off my lawn so I can yell at the clouds and shit ? I’ve always thought Kahlers looked cool on certain guitars too like the bigsby in a steam punk kinda way, I want to try something with an ever tune but I haven’t had the chance yet it sounds like it would solve most of my annoyances but I think evertunes are ugly so who knows, guitarists we’re a fickle picky bunch
@watchtheskies
@watchtheskies Жыл бұрын
The surface mounted Kerry King signature Kahler solved all of the issues that I had with earlier Kahlers, Kerry must have requested a lot of changes for his signature model, it is so much better engineered than other Kahlers
@gregj.gotham4402
@gregj.gotham4402 Жыл бұрын
A dear friend now gone purchased a Firebrand Les Paul burned in Gibson headstock plus the chainsaw case. Man I loved that guitar of his, he paid a total of 480.00 used plus tax in 1983-84 the guitar was made in 1982.
@dougwilson8489
@dougwilson8489 Жыл бұрын
Personally I love kahlers, I think that they are better and easier to install than a floyd rose. I don't get why everyone hates them.
@crilf5830
@crilf5830 2 ай бұрын
Lack of intelligence doesn’t help. Kahler made/makes great products. I would prefer a proper install or the guitar to be made with a Kahler flat mount in mind. Les Pauls should never have a Floyd but I’ll accept a Kahler.
@ICantStopMakingNoise
@ICantStopMakingNoise Жыл бұрын
Before I knew anything about guitars - before I even really knew how to play - my first guitar was a 1979 "The SG". One of my uncles had left it in his childhood bedroom at my grandparents' house for decades, and my grandfather just let me have it one day. I owned it for about a year before I had to give it back to avoid family drama, and I've been telling myself I should get another, for years. Anyway, I was stoked to see you cover this one.
@wesleyalan9179
@wesleyalan9179 Жыл бұрын
Dang, would've been cool if you could've kept it😑
@greendaykerplunk
@greendaykerplunk Жыл бұрын
@@wesleyalan9179 probably was cooler not fighting with his family lol
@wesleyalan9179
@wesleyalan9179 Жыл бұрын
@@greendaykerplunk I'm sure that's a fact,lol😄
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Cool story too bad they just didn't let you keep it
@user-gr6tl5xh6t
@user-gr6tl5xh6t Ай бұрын
@@greendaykerplunk guitar wont leave you family will
@theabguitarshow1747
@theabguitarshow1747 Жыл бұрын
I had the chance to buy this exact guitar down near Philly and the seller never messaged me back on marketplace. We came to a price, figured out a meeting time and then when I messaged him that I was on my way, NOTHING! This stings to watch this one. Could’ve had it for $500!!
@leokrissandy5579
@leokrissandy5579 Жыл бұрын
definitely not ruined, just a guitar player mod it to suits his needs
@Buffrt66
@Buffrt66 Жыл бұрын
You have to remember these were the budget guitar when they were new. Some people bought them to build their own model. That is fun you know?
@alfsmith4936
@alfsmith4936 Жыл бұрын
No.. Fun is buying guitars from desperate Reverb sellers, making the same video as last week and selling them to KZbin fans.
@chip9177
@chip9177 Жыл бұрын
You have to leave it as it is. It is telling a story. Trying to hide the mods would almost seem like a lie.
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
Evening all!! I just ordered a Gibson SG Standard in Heritage Cherry today. My first SG!! It'll be here tomorrow.
@raytorvalds3699
@raytorvalds3699 Жыл бұрын
Congrats! That is very exciting!
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Жыл бұрын
@@raytorvalds3699 Thank you.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Жыл бұрын
Howdy James congratulations!! 👏 my 94' SG Standard in heritage cherry was my first "good" electric guitar and my first Gibson, love it and still have it 29 years later. Enjoy your new axe!
@frankwebster9110
@frankwebster9110 Жыл бұрын
The ebony block with some cool inlay wood be a perfect way to restore some dignity to that old rocker. I love the sounds of it!
@borasmussen4794
@borasmussen4794 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my 79’ The SG! Now I know what the holes in the headstock were from lol! Someone had a locking mechanism above the nut. Mine still has factory pickups and electronics and tuners. I had to replace the bridge and tailpiece with a klusson harmonica bridge and tailpiece. Awesome guitars!!!
@strat0871
@strat0871 Жыл бұрын
I like it, even with a Kahler, which is a good system, except for the garbage locking nut. Sounds good too.
@jaydenstramel562
@jaydenstramel562 Жыл бұрын
Throw an evertune on it and just use it as a player
@justin3947
@justin3947 Жыл бұрын
I’ve modified my guitars doesn’t mean they’re ruined it means they’re mine.
@jonlennon3348
@jonlennon3348 Жыл бұрын
The neck is walnut but it is quarter sawn to expose different grain.
@alexandriashannon7438
@alexandriashannon7438 Жыл бұрын
Take it to a luthier, they can do wonders with filling the hole putting it back.
@hardac7943
@hardac7943 Жыл бұрын
I would leave it be as someone who mods an change things it was someone's pride and joy. As it will end up in a display case it shows the history of players too. Even if it wasn't done the best it tells the best story as is.
@justanish6966
@justanish6966 Жыл бұрын
I actually ENJOY the floating trem on this... keeps it in tune also.
@stevengrimes8737
@stevengrimes8737 Жыл бұрын
One of my big gear regrets was trading off my 1983 "The SG" in Electric Blue. I saw it again about 12 years later, and the next owner abused it terribly. The headstock had been broken and poorly repaired, and the body was severely cracking on both side of the neck joint. i plugged it in , and it still sounded amazing, but it was so sad to see the condition it was in.
@therabbitcanada
@therabbitcanada Жыл бұрын
I've filled in routes like that no problem. Flush off the edges straight, route out the small area bigger to make it totally square, bring the guitar with me to wood dealer, match it then cut, glue etc
@Shiznitt_
@Shiznitt_ Жыл бұрын
Walnut has some of the nicest wood grain. The kahler should stay/upgraded as part of its history.
@harrisonandrew
@harrisonandrew Жыл бұрын
Just after I left school in the late 1970’s, I worked in a music store selling guitars. I always thought that the Gibson guitars like The SG, The Paul and those bolt-on’s you showed were complete planks. I hated them. I was fine with the Gibson Les Pauls and Semi-Acoustics - they were playable. However I felt the Japanese guitars always came in set up way better and were the ones I’d pick up to play when the store was quiet. Obviously I was young and inexperienced but I knew what I liked. Having said that, I bought a Fender Stratocaster and a 25/50 Les Paul (Ebony) from the wages I earned at that store.
@chuckburns9900
@chuckburns9900 Жыл бұрын
What would it look like under black light?
@rindred
@rindred Жыл бұрын
If you decide to get that ebony block inserted to fill that gap, get them to model the SG block you showed in the video, and have a MOP inlay that says "The SG" like the severed truss rod cover. Then you could a shim for the nut rout in the headstock and just put a period-correct SG cover on it, since you'll have the name on the body.
@metalextras
@metalextras Жыл бұрын
Perhaps that Kahler block make it sounds even more heavy!
@chadwcmichael
@chadwcmichael Жыл бұрын
I’ve painted wood grain before. If it were my guitar and it was time and money, I’d be ok tackling that…but it isn’t so I won’t. There are all kinds of tips and tricks though, it wouldn’t be that hard to fake it to “factory”.
@zoinkiezz
@zoinkiezz Жыл бұрын
The kahler may be helping to counteract some neck-dive
@jonlennon3348
@jonlennon3348 Жыл бұрын
I think if you refinished it a good luthier could mat a piece of walnut to fill the hole and he could make the screw holes on the head stock.The older fella at stew mac could do it.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get the kahler hate? Kahlers are cool. And they lock to hardtails if you don’t want to use the whammy.
@ringsystemmusic
@ringsystemmusic Жыл бұрын
It’s more the “modification of a guitar nerds on the internet deem important” with this episode.
@timscarrow9151
@timscarrow9151 Жыл бұрын
From firsthand experience, Kahler craze was 1983, the output jack is a replacement, and the neck wear looks right, I have worn mine that much twice now.Mine also has nice fretboard gouges from wear .
@stewsim
@stewsim Жыл бұрын
Adjust the little screws beneath the levers for proper locking…
@johnnyennis9864
@johnnyennis9864 9 ай бұрын
It was clearly a player's guitar and they never intended it to be a "collector piece". The modifications show this was likely completed in the hotrod era, and fit what was common at the time. I think it's an excellent representation of guitar culture at the time, and it shows how guitars are tools for a lot of musicians, and not meant to be in museums.
@donbuttaccio4464
@donbuttaccio4464 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the band & song for the riffage at time stamp 19:42, I hear it often on guitar sound testing here.
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette Жыл бұрын
My first "real" guitar was a Gibson "The SG". Fantastic guitar for a first guitar but I'm not too sure I'd feel the same about it today. Would love to try one again to see.
@Dokkensound
@Dokkensound Жыл бұрын
I had a late '70's SG standard in the brown finish. I did some extreme string bending and added a cam lock nut like that with a tp6 tail piece. I just put the truss cover in the case. Didn't consider it ruined and never planned to sell it. Ended up being stolen or I'd still be playing it.
@robertwittjr1198
@robertwittjr1198 Жыл бұрын
yes it would be hard to match the wood, but it could be done. stewmac channel - Patching a Big Hole in a ’53 Telecaster; an apprentice went after it with a dull beaver to install a bigsby vibrato...dan did an awsome job making it "normal" again. great find.
@roopher2
@roopher2 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these that I bought new in '79. It's completely stock but mine has the wide harmonica style bridge.
@robpaige2376
@robpaige2376 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know more about the proportions, given that there's no tenon cover and the neck butts up to the neck pickup. Is it the same body length as a regular SG? It just struck me as odd, as the only time I've seen an SG without a tenon cover is when they've had bolt-on necks.
@robempire
@robempire Жыл бұрын
You should look up an acquaintance of mine named Dave petillo in new jersey. One of the best Luthiers in the game. Dude is a wizard when it comes to guitar repairs. Check him out for sure if needing any major guitar repairs. He may be able to actually hide that cut out on the bridge.
@brian770
@brian770 Жыл бұрын
wish they would have kept the jack on the side like this one, its the only reason i never bought a SG, hate the front jack look.
@loudguitars69
@loudguitars69 Жыл бұрын
What is so wrong with Khaler trees? I had one on a Aria Pro II RS Knight Warior and loved it!!!
@chrisghiardi117
@chrisghiardi117 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great especially considering the mod. You could pull the behind the nut lock for locking Grovers. The key with Kahlers was keeping the roller saddles clean and moving and enough down pressure on those saddles. Also the many adjustments could be a mystery.
@Maxreverse
@Maxreverse Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome. Great find.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Жыл бұрын
The Output jacks on the production run are “deep panel” jacks. It’s a smaller hole than any other jack, so that might have been a cost saving choice.
@scottgiering2015
@scottgiering2015 Жыл бұрын
Trig- I owned an early 80’s firebrand SG and it had a finish called- antique mahogany/walnut. I can’t remember if it was mahogany or walnut but it did have dozens and dozens of what looked to be small tack marks like someone shook it around in a box to give it a relic look. Would you think this would’ve been the first case of a relic guitar by Gibson or even Fender. . .very interesting question you should look into that finish ,thanks
@mangaaxis
@mangaaxis Жыл бұрын
I can see why you could think it's mahogany, but if the camera is showing right, that's totally a walnut neck.
@Trenchhhj
@Trenchhhj Жыл бұрын
why did he cut the truss rod cover? 😭
@doomgoon2755
@doomgoon2755 Жыл бұрын
id laminate walnut and ebony ,hit it with the router all the way up too the neck tendon and place the laminated strip in , route for pickups also filling the hole and run the og bridge setup. neck through ish..
@meining-mech4378
@meining-mech4378 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy SG type guitars. The ebony block idea sounds like it would work out nicely for hiding that awful pit for the Khaler.
@HelterSkelter199
@HelterSkelter199 Жыл бұрын
I would have the hole filled, repairing a kahler route in an SG is well inside most good luthiers wheel houses. If it were me I'd just do an honest repair, neither mix/matching woods or "faking" a invisible repair.
@jaklcide
@jaklcide Жыл бұрын
Kahler FTW
@jeromestevenfaigin6059
@jeromestevenfaigin6059 Жыл бұрын
Again - this can be restored to a point maybe a line will show the lose pin is a dowl incert and recorded to set the pin tied.
@shfla7293
@shfla7293 Жыл бұрын
$500 in 1978 is equivalent to about $2,307.06 today… so much for a “budget” guitar
@brycebryson9657
@brycebryson9657 Жыл бұрын
Would be dope to rout like a small bit out of the top to form a line from bridge pickup to the rear. Then put wood veneer/piece in to make it look like a racing stripe or something
@kollabrock
@kollabrock 11 ай бұрын
I own a -79 "The SG" that the previous owner bought new (1979). I got it maybe 1995, the pickups had been replaced at some point and the frets were totally worn out, so I had it refretted the following year+a new nut. When Gibson released the Burstbucker-pups I put a #3 in the bridge and a #2 in the neck, and I still play it just like that in 2023. It sounds great and actually stays in tune as well, a real no-nonsense workhorse of an instrument
@viperBSG
@viperBSG Жыл бұрын
send it to StewMac! They'd fill in the Gouge and look almost original.
@Gordanovich02
@Gordanovich02 Жыл бұрын
I think I'd be tempted to try and wedge the Kahler and just use it as a fine tuning fixed bridge. Ditch the Rube Goldberg locknut and source a new trussrod cover.
@jasonwaltrowski2315
@jasonwaltrowski2315 Жыл бұрын
Just think if someone put a Floyd on it, the guitar would have a nice big route in the back as well
@jonm1544
@jonm1544 Жыл бұрын
Everyone says that the zebra The SG bridge pickup is a T-Top but I believe it’s a Velvet Brick. If you A/B it against a T-Top, it’s not the same. The Velvet brick is still a great pickup but it sounds more compressed to my ear. Open to other opinions.
@houseomiller
@houseomiller Жыл бұрын
A really good luthier like Dan Erlewine over at StewMac, which is pretty near you, can make those patches in such a way that it's nearly invisible, especially under the bridge and tailpiece, and under the truss rod cover. As the honest seller that you are, I don't think it would bring back any lost value, but it would look a helluva lot better.
@leahcaudill6559
@leahcaudill6559 Жыл бұрын
I bought,a LPJ for 600. No binding, just basic wood, it's a 2013. The good thing about it,is it's got the 490&498 pup's
@steveparish9210
@steveparish9210 Жыл бұрын
Can't the Kahler trem be removed and brought back to stock speck?
@JohnnyZnuff1
@JohnnyZnuff1 Жыл бұрын
Restore it!
@jimilee459
@jimilee459 Жыл бұрын
I love that series. I have a 79 The Paul that’s still one of my go to guitars.
@user-ql1pc7pi9x
@user-ql1pc7pi9x Жыл бұрын
Really good pickups. They had a nice bite to them.
@reno145
@reno145 Жыл бұрын
That is far from ruined. Lose the locking nut, throw on some locking tuners, set it up and rock on. Just lose the trem arm.
@jeromestevenfaigin6059
@jeromestevenfaigin6059 Жыл бұрын
All that is not hard to fix pretty close depending on the Luthier you can trust.
@dimitardimitrov1173
@dimitardimitrov1173 Жыл бұрын
What did he use to clean the tar off?
@cataclysmicconverter
@cataclysmicconverter Жыл бұрын
It will chug!
@saltpeter7429
@saltpeter7429 Жыл бұрын
We'll have to get Ola to weigh in on this one.
@jonnyhafer7376
@jonnyhafer7376 11 ай бұрын
my band mate the one who traded you the original silverburst for the r9 has a super clean the sg he swapped the pickups but still has the t tops. when we played in a differnet band 20 years ago he had he SG and I had The Paul
@Xaltar_
@Xaltar_ Жыл бұрын
Easy enough to restore, a nice well matched chunk of walnut and a competent luthier could bring it back to stock with minimal evidence of it's alterations. I only say this because it's a prototype, otherwise I would leave it be as part of it's history. I miss the days when something like this (non prototype) could be had for next to nothing and actually be enjoyed by players rather than be over priced collector fodder. Guitars I used to see sell for $400 - $600 now sell for anywhere up to 10x that.
@petercappiello8192
@petercappiello8192 Жыл бұрын
The Firebrands were junk guitars.I sold them when they were new.Parents bought them for their kids for Christmas.We even got asked if we could paint them.
@butchlauer
@butchlauer Жыл бұрын
In 1980 at 16 I bought my first Gibson. An SG firebrand that unfortunately had a decapitation about 3 months after I bought it. I got it fixed and gained a sweet black stinger on the neck. To my point, what is worse, a headstock break or a kahler rout? I'm gonna just leave that out there for everybody, but I would have dive bombing the shit outta mine if it was kahlered back then. Always loved the pickup switch and output jack locations also.
@jimmyjames2022
@jimmyjames2022 Жыл бұрын
Nice find, the walnut SG prototype looks very sweet! Despite the questionable trem installation. Where is the neck tenon, I couldn't see it? Back of that neck looks sanded to me.
@jw_au
@jw_au Жыл бұрын
Great idea with the ebony block
@zeusapollo8688
@zeusapollo8688 Жыл бұрын
I think you could fill that hole and even if it was not perfect it would be very hard to see under the strings
@RoboSteave
@RoboSteave Жыл бұрын
I love the walnut look and it sounds great. If I were you, I'd leave it alone and enjoy it for what it is.
@JonWilde
@JonWilde 8 ай бұрын
Late but is that the riff goodbye by sr-71? 19:41
@mikeydep89
@mikeydep89 Жыл бұрын
i have a 79, got it with duncans in it, unfortunately not the original t tops
@tonyy.8852
@tonyy.8852 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with kahler tho? Yes it does have a bad reputation, but still quite a lot of artists use it
@Trog
@Trog Жыл бұрын
The vintage ones just aren't that good... I've had a modern kahler that was pretty nice though
@jaspera6908
@jaspera6908 Жыл бұрын
social distortion at 18:50?
@thebuck1152
@thebuck1152 Жыл бұрын
Twoodfrd could probably do the kahler delete. He does some amazing repairs on his channel! The best headstock repairs I've seen
@brucejoaniewilliams3213
@brucejoaniewilliams3213 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Ted does THE BEST guitar repair I have ever seen. His approach is thoughtful, his skills are amazing. And his history lessons and commentary make it all come together quite nicely. Check it out all of you!
@thebuck1152
@thebuck1152 Жыл бұрын
@@brucejoaniewilliams3213 right! His old world skills and knowledge are mesmerizing to see in action
@supedersen
@supedersen Жыл бұрын
Drop the intro, please !!!
@BlueSpirit.
@BlueSpirit. Жыл бұрын
Sounds great! 😊 very full with detail.
@CJMacNeil
@CJMacNeil Жыл бұрын
Wow! This thing rips! Very cool guitar 🤘🏻
@p.aaronjones4174
@p.aaronjones4174 Жыл бұрын
A fellow I know made that EXACT modification to a walnut Gibson SG just like that. I was there watching as he used a drill press to rout the trem chamber. Early 1980's. Could be. I don't recall how he handled the truss rod cover. Trying to find out now.
@jonnyhafer7376
@jonnyhafer7376 11 ай бұрын
i had a the Paul from 1978 with a khaler and the route looked identical to that i had it patched and put the regular stuff back on. makes me wonder did they ship with khalers or were they that popular to install back then
@che2335
@che2335 Жыл бұрын
❤ the Kahler
@coreybagley5579
@coreybagley5579 Жыл бұрын
Great sounding guitar
@TM-ev2tc
@TM-ev2tc Жыл бұрын
You need to check out Neil Young's guitar Old Black. A 53 Les Paul Gold Top that has been painted black.
@cataclysmicconverter
@cataclysmicconverter Жыл бұрын
That ol' gal has been around the block a few times. An amazing guitar. I have a Deluxe with his setup, a Firebird pickup in the bridge with a P90 in the neck and it screams.
@cuda426hemi
@cuda426hemi Жыл бұрын
Note the horns are hardly beveled at all - almost as flat as the no bevel '72-3 "Deluxe" SG w/2 scratch plates and embossed 'Gibson' chrome 'buckers and Bigsby. 🎸
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