I Bought a Used Ariel Grizzly

[@cfgodwell]

I bought a used Grizzly V2 back in April and almost immediately blew the rear controller, which I purchased from Ariel Ryder for around $400. That's just the risk of buying a used electric vehicle with over 1000 miles on it. However, it was well worth it because this baby is a battle tank on these rough and highly unfriendly NYC roadways. I'm about to transform it into a completely new bike over the winter and have it back on the road by Spring 2024.

[@lionelhowell4972]

I have one also, I'm happy with mine the way it is. But a lot of people want these bikes to be motorcycles, by going to more powerful controllers like the far drivers, and Sabvatrons 72 volt 150-200 amps which is crazy to me. Good luck!!

[@Docinaplane]

If you start in RWD then switch to AWD after you are going, your front tire will last a lot longer.

[@RobertHaworth]

Glad you finally got a V3 Grizzly. I also have the same. Set the wheel diameter to 22" and the speedometer will match the GPS app. I also have a Wired Freedom E-bike. The Grizzly has more torque with both motors turned on. Thanks for the review. I think the Grizzly will take the throne away from your Citizen E-bike.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Thanks for the reminder I'll go change that wheel diameter. Doesn't feel quite as strong as citizen but it's getting closer. Citizen is tough to beat.

[@miamibo1]

Which do you prefer? Wired or Grizzly?

[@conween]

Just bought mine a month ago and love it. I bought the yellow which came in a more gold shine that matches closer to the shocks. Going to upgrade the handlebars soon and add some storage on the back. Super fun but gotta ride carefully.

[@AddMoreQuarters]

Great vid. I personally love the handlebars. Very distinctive and gives one more bar to work with for mounting things it looks like. I'm eyeing the Ariel Grizzly for future purchase.

[@scottp7587]

the reflectors are to counterbalance the weel from the valve stem if you take it off its going to bounce like crazy, put 30 psi in the tires and you will hit 37.8 mph.

[@drphibesrises]

I would definitely put BMX style handlebars. I don't like that ladder type. Nice bike. Thanks for sharing.

[@lionelhowell4972]

I have one and I agree, but they are really catered to the tall rider for less bending over. But this is a great, and powerful bike.

[@Bustadhed]

Thanks again for test drive awesome as always !!!!

[@DanielLopes-jt8yl]

Sweet buy! Enjoy man! Thanks as always for the real deal on e-bikes.

[@bens8014]

Wish I could find a good used grizzly like that such an awesome bike. Congrats. I subbed hopping for more grizzly content!!!

[@CitizenCycle925]

I'm not too particular with seats, just as long as they are wide, flat, and soft. I'm mostly buy bikeroo.

[@smash7777-]

You may find those handlebars are steel bars just to get an extra pound or two over the front wheel to stop it spinning as much off the line. I’d check before you dump them. If you put a set of light BMX bars on it you might be spinning even more?? Just a thought..

[@Altema22]

36 mph is where the motors meet their natural loaded RPM for the voltage. 36mph is very healthy, but if you do need to go faster you need controllers with field weakening, or go to higher voltage batteries which will be expensive and not as good looking. I'd be fine with it stock, but that throttle delay would drive me nuts! It will be interesting to see if the Citizen Cycle can beat it. I could beat a first gen Grizzly with a RadMini, but the gen 3 is probably quicker off the line.

[@CitizenCycle925]

The throttle delay is definitely not my favorite. And I don't think it's gonna be able to take out Citizen Bike. This bike is definitely powerful. But I thought it would have more juice...

[@westmcgee9320]

I like the ladder design, from a functional perspective. I suspect you could mount things left and right without issue.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Certainly a lot of mounting space, but just looks ugly to me.

[@sbukosky]

@@CitizenCycle925 I think my Lectric 3.0 is ugly but I don't see it when I'm riding and smiling.

[@westmcgee9320]

@@sbukosky I have the same model. I never saw them as ugly. I like the decals and everything but that aside, I feel similarly when it comes to what it provides me. Someone who doesn’t want to need to mount multiple items beyond the standard handlebars’ surface area won’t get the added benefit of this odd ladder design. (Hmm. I wonder if the design is stronger.) So, I understand focusing on that more in those cases (or any case, if it’s your money and not mine) but I’d love to put my goodies on that sucker in its stock configuration. Lastly, I thought it didn’t fold. Then the unboxing showed the tired next to each other and I was about to be blown away…until I saw they were there because one needed to be attached. 😆 I went on a whole rollercoaster ride by myself.

[@rossaiello3409]

I have a rad city 3 e bike that I have 4300 miles on. It is 2 years old. I use it almost every day during the summer commuting to save on gas. The build quality is very good. I have been studying the Ariel and I like that you have extended range and speed but it looks impractical as a bike since it appears you cannot adjust the seat height for optimal pedal position. My rad city has a max range of 40 miles at a max speed of 24 mph. But depending on conditions headwinds I get about 30 miles at 20 mph. Pls advise on the bicycle option because I use the e bike as a work out machine and not as an electrified scooter. Thanks

[@oregonebikermark8953]

Great video. Change the wheel size setting in display to 22" and it should be close to accurate.

[@ug9191]

Awesome, looking forward to the big race! Definitely some nicer bars would smarten up the look.

[@CitizenCycle925]

I may look into changing the handlebars but bmx bars would end up being shorter. I probably have to get a stem rise also and I'm not sure how that would look.

[@ug9191]

@@CitizenCycle925 that's true. Don't want to lose comfort of the high bars either.

[@ebikenation]

That is a great looking bike and a beast of a bike. My first e bike was also used. It was a Aerial Rider Ridiel.

[@jfly2249]

Grizzly looks to have great acceleration, will be interesting to see the upcoming drag races. I googled “Ariel Rider Problems,” and was stunned to see over four pages of complaints with the BBB after only four years in business. It is safe to say that Ariel Ridder has the worst customer service and track record in the industry. Wouldn’t risk buying ANY Ariel Rider product until they clean up their act and stop treating their customers like crap.

[@independentmind85]

My Ariel Rider Kepler has been nothing but problems. Love the by when it works, but too many major issues to recommend. If you get one that doesn't have issues then it's a great price and a great value.

[@jamesreardon4898]

I have had my Grizzly for over 2 years no problems. Love it

[@lionelhowell4972]

​@@jamesreardon4898Me too, 2 years , (NO PROBLEMS)!! I think when people only use them on top speeds all the time is when you set yourself up for failure. Parts get very hot when used that way. These are not motorcycles!!

[@paulbouldin6677]

Youre so fortunate to have this ebike. Congratulations!!! How are the local yocals with you riding this powerful of an Ebike? Definitely would be better with street tires. I have always liked your vids. You are a Rock Star!!!

[@savagemako17]

Did the guy you bought it from say why he was selling it? Just curious

[@FreakyT333]

From this side of the screen it definitely looks and sounds like it pulls harder than the Fabulous bikes, not so sure about the citizen bike though… I wish you had more seat adjustment on this moped style bike, they look awesome but I don’t know that I would be comfy on longer rides.

[@CitizenCycle925]

It doesn't feel quite as strong as the citizen like but it's getting closer.

[@TaylorMoore42]

Love my grizzly. Go into the computer and set the tire size to 22 and you’ll get a more accurate reading. You can also set the speed limit in there and make the PAS have 9 levels. Makes it much more useful.

[@D-Saved925]

Can you limit each PAS level to only reach a certain speed? I know some bikes will hit top speed even on PAS 1

[@TaylorMoore42]

@@D-Saved925 you can’t set it to a specific speed, but if you put the top speed at 34 and set it to 9 levels of assist, PAS 1 tops out around 14-15 mph.

[@D-Saved925]

@@TaylorMoore42 thank you!

[@D-Saved925]

@@TaylorMoore42 so would pas 2 top put around 20 then?

[@TaylorMoore42]

@@D-Saved925 ehh give or take. Yeah. Depends on if you are using both motors or not.

[@bobbydigital2475]

I turned my X-Class into AWD after watching your Citizen 3.0 build. Cant wait to race a grizz locally here in Albany NY 💪💪 Great video as usual!!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Nice! I bet that AWD X-Class is no joke.

[@bobbydigital2475]

@CitizenCycle925 it's so much fun!! 2 independent systems and both are geared hub motors and my "Blue Bandit" rips!! Thanks for the inspiration!!

[@nocapmypphard]

This has nothing to do with what u said but i am buying a grizzly soon and i also live in Albany ny 🫡

[@bobbydigital2475]

@nocap7368 for sure let's ride!!!

[@alphonsotate2982]

I GOT A 1000 watt geared hub front motor each on my AWD X it is fast it will be interesting seeing the Grizzly against other bikes@@CitizenCycle925

[@papablueshirt]

Looks like a fun bike. Went through the tires pretty fast though. My Philodo H8 AWD I still have the original front tire at almost 6000 miles. Rear has 3500, had to change because it had a staple and I could not find a pc of it, so it kept going flat. Anyway, I love the all wheel drive. Thanks for the video 😀

[@Hoggdoc1946]

Wow thats great I'm kinda surprised its lasted this long as I felt the level of components on the Philodo bike were of inferior quality.

[@papablueshirt]

@@Hoggdoc1946 Yeah, my Ecotric is getting close to 11K miles. I was hoping to get at least that many miles out of my Philodo. So far so good : )

[@chaon2340]

How much did u pay for it used?

[@kenbrogno9018]

I put bmx bars on mine. You can also change the chainring to 60t pretty easily.

[@jpmyles1560]

I changed my handle bars on my grizzly. I got the yellow one to . Love it

[@MrDterryberry]

Where did you get your bike rack? Where can I get one?

[@tarstarkusz]

Are these 52v batteries? 1.8kw should give a decent range even at a fast speed.

[@lionelhowell4972]

Yes!

[@williamiannuzzi2492]

Im telling you My Kepler has been stout, and I can do 35 all day long. tail wind I can definetly hit 38-41 thats no exacuration thank you for the reviews love em, is the x class as fast as the grizzly or as quick? I live in FL all flat ground. thanks citizen

[@helix9268]

Onyx cty 2 smokes grizzly and your Kepler for same price.

[@En4cer2K9]

​@@helix9268maybe, but the Cty 2 only has 1 battery. There's not enough battery to support the higher speed for very long

[@helix9268]

@@En4cer2K9 that's true and the big aftermarket one costs couple grand. But the piece of mind you get when you can hop on road and keep up with traffic is worth it.

[@helix9268]

@@En4cer2K9 also the wired ebikes freedom bike can do actual 40 mph with long range for 2 grand. Ebike prices are dropping because there are so many different brands now that are pretty good for cheap so the Grizzly is slightly overpriced brand new compared to others.

[@Canaz73]

What did you pay used? I am looking at the exact same spec/color used -

[@randallhack4477]

How much did you pay for this used bike?

[@noodles169]

Wish they sold these and the wired freedom here in the UK

[@goingoutotheparty1]

You could get a Engwie M20 Pro with 2 batteries and upgrade the controller and add a front motor yourself.... But yeah I agree, because of our stupid ebike laws we get junk oh and Brexit

[@bb-fe9ur]

You have zero freedoms in the UK

[@LexyTheEbikeQueen]

Come buy it closer to where they will ship and you ship it home

[@mikepino6519]

Very cool bike. But hate those Bars

[@bleedsblue05esk8]

What is the helmet you’re wearing there?

[@anthonyfrattalone9937]

what would be a good/fair price be for a 2023 grizzly with 300 miles on it?

[@CitizenCycle925]

looks like it is currently $3100 new so I say $2500ish maybe less. It can be hard to get folks to part with thousands of dollars for a used ebike with no warranty.

[@wolf_x7x]

دراجة رهيبة❤❤

[@sdz6tre]

Thats nice.....hills should be no problem

[@Flay47-]

What site did you find it on ?

[@horsepastedelish]

Checkout the Chimera Electric BMX, fast, lightweight, single speed mid-drive

[@plutobars7700]

How much did you pay?

[@mickster1780]

i agree on the handlebars. BMX style would look better. cool bike! now the question is: how to make it faster?? 🙂

[@fnnaxos8276]

Yeah

[@fnnaxos8276]

Have u figured anything out?

[@lionelhowell4972]

The fastest stock e-bike under $2500 is the Goat bikes 43-50 mph

[@Hammer547]

Bought a brand new Ariel grizzly. Both batteries give out at the same time would Not take a charge . By the time I went thru all the crap Ariel wanted me to do it wasn't worth the price or trouble to send them back. Very disappointing

[@CitizenCycle925]

Wow, so what did you do with the bike?

[@ghoul114]

The pull is stronger because of the 20” wheels

[@SMG-lz1zq]

That thing is cool!

[@Archeriomc]

I just bought a red one just shipped, I have a Specialized Vado carbon it might be for sale.

[@f1dog]

I'm excited for you to race your dad with the Furious EMX, Wired Freedom Dual motor, CitizenCycle, and maybe the Grizzly too?

[@AccordionSqueezer]

You could put BMX handlebars on that😎 I prefer the separate throttles like on the Mistress👍

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Yeah aftermarket would sell tons of bars if they had plug and play for this bike

[@anacondahugs808]

🐍Did you pay for your V3 Grizzly❓️ Or did you barter/trade for it❓️

[@jon9947]

Can you do a video on how to choose a seat for your electric bike? I have tried 3 so far and just not happy with any of them. The cloud 9 is slightly better than the stock one, but it just dosnt work for me. I know everyone is different, and thats what I want to know. There has to be some sort of measurements to decide. Dont want to keep buying seat after seat, hoping there is some sort of guide to help narrow it down.

[@elaineerne7699]

I currently have 5 bike seats in my garage. My latest on my bike is a VLG extra wide. But I’m still looking!

[@hassandjhaboogiespin4550]

Oh’ Trust and believe You Bought The BEST!!!!😅, i Just Invested.. in a BRAND NEW GRIZZLY and its fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥, me and My Neighbor finished Setting My FrontWheel up, and We Both Rode mines’ PUREBEAST⚡️⚡️⚡️2024 Edition USA Built Too!!!😊

[@Hoggdoc1946]

What a beast of a bike. Little out of my price range though.

[@grouchydude3448]

Congratulations! I wanted to buy one too, but I think I’m too short. I’m 5’4. Can you show your wife trying to ride it?

[@bricktobuildings1145]

I agree the handle bars are ugly, and I also leave the plastic on everything

[@ChristmasEve777]

Needs new tires after 600 miles? lol it's from everyone giving it full throttle all the time and peeling out. They should last a lot longer than that 😄

[@jdgoesham5381]

Getting road tires helps also. Those knobby tires are garbo for roads.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes, the front wheel is much more worn than the back.

[@thetechgenie7374]

@@jdgoesham5381Yes they not design for road reason they wore out fast. For pavement you need a tpi60 rated road tires that grip the road better and better performance. Pretty much the Innova hybrid, or Chaoyang Arisun tires are good for pavement and light. I put 2500 miles on a set and no flats with no flatout. $140 bucks in states, or $98 from china typically if you can wait.

[@michaelviscomi6502]

I think that bike might have a limiter on the top speed?

[@dennisp3074]

you know we need to see the Head to Head Vs citizencycle race

[@alphonsotate2982]

The Grizzly will faster off the line the Citizen will be faster in the long run because of the larger wheel diameter

[@CrazyTruckinS10]

The bars looks like a 15 deck spoiler😂 If they made it dual battery rear wheel, that would be best.

[@mad151maxx4]

Citizen, another good one. But compare to ecells 1500 awd.

[@mad151maxx4]

I'm 6 2 . I couldn't really pedal it.

[@CitizenCycle925]

E cell supermonarch is way too expensive But if I ever meet someone who has one. I will surely compare.

[@kenboyb]

I have one in Nebraska!

[@MissPiggy-ms2xz]

Nice ride…love the color!

[@CitizenCycle925]

There's a bunch of different yellows on it, but it does look pretty sharp.

[@anacondahugs808]

🐍 Grizzly tires stand tall out of the box and give the best top speed for the first 50 miles or so, then the nubs wear down and the sidewalls soften and lower the tire profiles. E-Huntsman tires from VeeTire restore the taller tire stance & give you back a 2-3 mph increase.😉👍

[@-.O.-]

I haven't heard Huntsman's giving you more mph. It might be able to maintain the mph but the acceleration and torque will be affected because of how much heavier and higher density they are compared to the stocks.

[@anacondahugs808]

@-.O.- Clearly you don't own one and just spew useless comments on people's videos. It doesn't matter. The Grizzly has plenty of torque to spare.

[@-.O.-]

@anacondahugs808 It's physics and momentum. I have Huntsmans and they're heavier with more density than any stock tire out there so it will affect acceleration for all bikes but it's a sacrifice that many are still willing to take but should be noted.

[@thetechgenie7374]

The Huntsman you lose 2 to 3 MPH not gain. They are heavy. He better off getting something like TPI 60 rated tires. Get pavement grade tire that are less aggressive and much lighter then you gain performance instead of losing. I don’t personally like Vee tires as used them and they don’t bead correctly and don’t hold up as well. My personal favorite are the Innova Hybrid, or Arisun, they about $140 in the states, or China $98 for the set of your willing to wait. They grip good the road, quiet and last set had about 2500 miles on it and not a single flat and didn’t use fix a flat at all. They are good tires. So bought a new set for new bike. One drawback is not good if you off-road a lot, then you need aggressive thread tires at that point.

[@anacondahugs808]

@@thetechgenie7374 🐍HAHA‼️ NOT on the Grizzly with it 1850w power. You probably drive S73 or some other low powered 48v ebike.🖖🤙

[@slasher298]

came for the rad, stayed for the beard

[@CitizenCycle925]

Haha thanks for sticking with me!

[@Campfussell]

WooooHoooo. I need to come visit Camp Citizen! LOL

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes, Definitely think you would enjoy this one

[@ghoul114]

You need a “ECELLS SUPER MONARCH 1500 AWD” that’s the Bike to beat them all

[@CitizenCycle925]

I've never seen one of those for sale used. And no way I'm spending that much on a new one...

[@tomt.1747]

Citizens that Isa fantastic looking bike

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes, it looks better in person than it does from the pictures online.

[@anacondahugs808]

🐍 Make sure you choose a worthy hill to do your Citizen Cycle AWD challenge and stand on the pedals with your CHEST OVER THE FRONT of your handlebars to tame the front tire spin. 🖖🤙

[@coolshariq]

Grizzly all the way beast of a bike.

[@foungyang5316]

My dream Ebike 😢😢😢

[@CitizenCycle925]

I think it definitely looks better in person. Great power too

[@michaellee213]

Ariel rider WILL NOT sell parts to non original purchasers. I dm'd them months ago about this. They gave a weird answer stating something about stolen bikes. This is the problem I had with ebike companies months ago. No parts sold to people with second hand bikes. They all talk the big talk about saving the environment but cause a lot of waste. There ain't nothing being saved...only created. Something MUST be done about this problem. All the reviewers on KZbin never have a discussion about this growing problem, none of them. I guess I'm part of this problem. If no one else speaks up what will be done? I like my ebike but afraid to what may come after 1 year. This is why I think ebikes are still a niche market. They are still for people that tinker and know how to Frankenstein an ebike together with aftermarket parts. I'm afraid to recommend ANY ebike to anyone who asks.

[@CitizenCycle925]

interesting... i have not heard that about Ariel. I bought my grizzly on facebook marketplace second hand so I guess they wont sell me anything for it, that seems odd, why wouldn't they want to keep their bikes running... Nothing has broken on my yet, but i'm that guy who will just tinker and fix myself. I have never heard of a company saying this. i'm very surprised.

[@raylivengood8040]

Good to see you push it to its full potential 👌🏼. Gives a much better idea of its performance.

[@meltdown92583]

I’m curious what you paid for the grizzly?

[@ChristmasEve777]

Let's see how close I am. I'll guess $2100

[@glenndavis7762]

I would guess $2300

[@140theguy]

I get it the other way. I was shamed in your comments several months ago because I pedal. I was told "nobody buys an E-bike to pedal." I'm recovering from 3 strokes and spent several years barely able to walk. My e-bike gave me my legs back. You try pedal up a hill with one leg. lol People are ignorant trolls, ignore them.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

If it's $2,500 or just over used price I would probably do the deal.

[@tommcgill1671]

When my less than reliable Grizz V2 rear motor went dead. carefully I used the front motor to get home. Then I entered the world of Customer service .........................not here right now. Iced the machine. In So, Cali but lets talk. I would have many 'donor" parts. Grizz on ICE

[@tommcgill1671]

Went Juiced, Scrambler then HS2 torque v Cadence what a world of difference

[@tommcgill1671]

Now the Talaria MX4 Sting-R do not ride unless you want to ruin all things you knew and understood before. Yes SIR!, game set match

[@Seafariireland]

What a bear of a bike!

[@CitizenCycle925]

the name sure fits!

[@jaderainhans9095]

buy a cheaper aniioki aq 177 and add a secound motor to the front I get more range too at 52 volt 60 ah

[@FrankelysHernandez]

Can u test the range with dual motor and 1 motor rear to see how battery holds it?

[@joebudi5136]

How is there not a clearly superior ebike by now? There are like 400 ebike companies now.

[@CitizenCycle925]

i guess it depends on what you mean by superior, there are certainly faster full suspension bikes out there that are way cheaper. the grizzly is a great bike though.

[@StefanRandall]

E bike maintenance going on here today. Getting 2 more e bikes so everyone here can ride one lol, and I’m addicted to e bikes so it just makes sense😅

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes, gotta have enough for everyone.!!

[@StefanRandall]

@@CitizenCycle925 sounds like you know the struggle 😂

[@michaelcharach]

Something tells me that they are not true 1000 watt motors, 750 at most..

[@coolshariq]

They’re are 1000watts feels even more nominal over 2400watts.

[@eman2k11]

How much did you pay for it man. Don't be shy....

[@tomsewell2462]

My v 2 grizz controllers blew up then caught on fire between my legs with just 10 months/700 miles on the warranty and Ariel wont pay for shop labor to fix it. Parts only. Bad business for Xi-Nese garbage. Anybody want it?

[@bassw1758]

I think the grizzly has 25 amp controllers.

[@Vicki-gz3vt]

30 amp

[@bassw1758]

@@Vicki-gz3vt definitely, I think first run and maybe the second had 25s, then they upgraded.

[@helix9268]

Lucky you live in a nice light area. Too much darkness in mine, that bike would be gone within a day if i parked anywhere outside.

[@michaelbedard7859]

Omg to funny😊

[@bebo150067]

I sell headlight for grizzly plug n play with halo , low beam, high beam if you interested let me know Thanks

[@CitizenCycle925]

The LED headlight on this bike's actually pretty nice. I might put some yellow film over it though. What's your website I'll check out your light.

[@bebo150067]

@@CitizenCycle925 my headlight is very bright compared to the original headlight plus halo switch option for halo ,low beam, high beam

[@manasseh7]

Need a 40amp controller and you’ll be golden

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes, I feel like there's a lot of untapped potential with this bike.

[@mikebrum9910]

Not really made for us over 6 feet tall

[@tombryan1]

Been there, done that, modded it, gifted it. I gift everything though, thats the way I like to roll. If I didnt, Id be hoarding while others go without.

[@anacondahugs808]

🐍 The Grizzly has only 30A controllers. Don't go off bragging about your Citizen Cycle ebike beating "equal" ebikes when your controllers are much larger.🖖🤙

[@CitizenCycle925]

That is precisely why I brag about the citizen bike, it's built stronger than the rest.

[@anacondahugs808]

@CitizenCycle925 🐍Yup, if you're gonna reach into your own pockets for modifications... Buy the BEST components. I bought (2) 750w Grizzlies during the peak of the pandemic on pre-order. Due to parts shortages & 9months delivery delays, AR gave us free upgrades to the 1000w/1850w peak motors & 2 chargers for the modified battery set up. AR also gave us merch credits and rebates on our credit cards lowering my costs to $2449 for each Grizzly. Did your yellow/gold V3 Grizzly cost less than mine❓️ 🖖🤙

[@obeii1805]

Just not fast enough 4 me

[@AtomicB-zq2cw]

That is one ugly bike.

[@full_charge]

How much did you pay?