I Bought EVERY HTC Vive Headset

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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:46 Vive
00:07:34 Pro
00:13:13 Focus
00:22:29 Cosmos
00:29:31 Focus Plus
00:34:50 Pro Eye
00:38:30 Cosmos Elite
00:41:59 Focus 3
00:48:27 Flow
00:53:31 Pro 2
01:00:33 XR Elite
01:07:58 Outro

[@Gurpthescreenzombie]

What about vives most popular headset? (The google cardboard)

[@josalt]

A legend returns!

[@Creepman53]

True

[@ReeksofChees3]

*They're BACK!*

[@Gurpthescreenzombie]

@@ReeksofChees3 oh my god it’s ReeksofChees3

[@Gurpthescreenzombie]

@@ReeksofChees3 when is next upload

[@doktorweedus7659]

its wild how in like, 2016-2018 they were the kings of VR, with all the biggest youtubers hopping on the vive

[@josalt]

Yep 140,000 sales, now its a ghost town

[@Ballman404]

Did not realize vive made so many headsets

[@josalt]

Ikr!!

[@briwu]

@@josaltbusiness version?!

[@RabbitConfirmed]

And all of them are absolute garbage. Except the OG vive.

[@briwu]

@@RabbitConfirmed says?

[@ipadize]

@@briwu @RabbitConfirmed

[@DeckDive]

I don’t even know how a small content creator can spend so much on content this is such a good channel

[@josalt]

I buy and sell them as i go along and thanks! Thats nice of you to say!

[@DeckDive]

@@josalt also do you have a discord server?

[@josalt]

@@DeckDive discord.com/invite/7yyNUmGwxC

[@josalt]

Been a while 🤪 Discord: discord.com/invite/7yyNUmGwxC X: twitter.com/josaltvr?lang=en

[@DiamondDepthYT]

I had no idea the OG Vive had a pass through cam! Wow, that's very ahead of its time.

[@josalt]

Yeah crazy! Valve know there stuff

[@nidgithm]

i have the OG vive and i didn't know either... i mean i see the cam on the device but i forget about it and dont know how to turn it on lmao

[@tsgxunclesurge7935]

excellent video. underrated channel. i can only imagine i found this because i started using my vive again to compare it to quest 3. keep it up man

[@josalt]

Much appreciated!

[@PoundBandana]

This was such a wonderfully done video. I started on the og vive and I hold a lot of nostalgia for it. VR was just so new and exciting at the time. The music choice especially in the video was so perfect. Slow gentle ambience, it reminds me a lot of VR back in the day. I don’t quite know how to describe it. Thankyou for investing your time into going through each vive headset, after the og vive I went to the index and never got to tryout a lot of htc’s other offerings.

[@josalt]

Wow, thank you so much for the kind words! Yeah early VR those were the days. It was so cool. No one knew exactly what it would turn into. Yeah you arent missing out on much haha i think index is better then every vive headset

[@josegabriel_1123]

man, you just do the best vr content, like, just keep going please

[@idontdrawartagain]

i was actually searching up the history of vive with all the vive headsets and there werent any vids about them, UNTIL NOW! TYSM!

[@josalt]

Thanks for the nice words

[@lightmaxifrvr2667]

This was a Great Video! Really shows how Vive relied on Valve for the original Vive.

[@josalt]

Thanks that's so nice of you to say!

[@GamingAndRCs]

been waiting for this one!

[@josalt]

🥰

[@happydudeev]

dude this video is amazing ur channel is so underrated

[@josalt]

I appreciate that!

[@ensuredchaos8098]

Love this video! Would love to see it done with other variations of headsets, like Oculus for example. Heck, even with other devices (like Gaming consoles) I think a series similar to this would be super entertaining.

[@Freakishink292]

He did it with Oculus too

[@bonkismonkey]

this guys awesome just honest opinions and solid reviews 🔥🔥

[@josalt]

Thanks legend

[@DuplexUA]

I still playing vr on first htc vive and this headset is still compatible with new games (except Bonelab , this game needs valve controllers which I already bought) , so it shows that first htc vive is very good headset

[@josalt]

Yeah its still very usable in 2024 which is nuts.

[@MrRaffles1234]

@@josalt I'm still using an original vive, after watching this video I'm thinking about upgrading my headset to a vive pro 2, as the screen door effect of the original is annoying.

[@munhenfunkhen]

@@MrRaffles1234 bro are you crazy? Just buy quest 3 standalone vrs are best.

[@Enanout]

I love this series!

[@josalt]

Thanks mate!

[@Enanout]

@@josalt I remember when the oculus video came out and i loved it, keep up the amazing work =)

[@EatSplode]

Great video! The Vive Pro with the wireless add on was my go to. Swapped the wands out for index controllers when those came out and it lasted me until I switched to the Quest 3. I definitely regret how much I spent on that sucker though.

[@sleman4605]

your video's are so much fun to watch. i learned some cool things from this video, even though i have no headset (my family is poor). i normally get bored from 30 minute video's, but i never got bored of this one.

[@josalt]

Thanks for the kind words

[@Lemonbruv]

Amazing video showing the evolution of vive, I wonder what the future of their headsets will look like.

[@josalt]

Thanks!! It's not looking good lol they will probably pivot to something else

[@LucaHedger]

I have Covid and didn't notice this video was an hour long, thank you for keeping me distracted 😆

[@josalt]

Get well soon!

[@BlenderGeek4196]

Finally someone actually recognizes the other Vive headsets besides the OG Vive.

[@daftysnake7019]

Oh,finally some good VR content. This is history of VR,good to know what we came from,and what we came through

[@josalt]

🥰

[@gas_mask_guy]

My first headset was the HTC vive that I had for about 5 years and played hl:a and boneworks at that time. At some point in time, I switched the vive controllers with the index ones before doing a full switch to the valve index. Switching between the two is a massive improvement

[@blenderalien]

Great video! Just FYI, the Vive Pro 2 has a big rang of other issues. Just like the Focus 3 (same optical design), it oversaturates colors, so that they look completely wrong. On top of that, the stereo overlap is eye strain inducing, as it is at 70° or sth, compared to the 90° of the Vive Pro. Also, it dynamically reduces brightness to reduce heat, and if you turn this awful feature off, the headset overheats to the point of the displays breaking.

[@josalt]

Yeah i dohnt know what HTC are doing... I didnt run into those issues but i loved the pro !

[@marcusdamberger]

Awesome comparison between all the HTC headsets! I had the original HTC Vive, bought it used. Kept it a few years then sold it maybe 2 years ago. I ended up getting a Pimax Crystal after building a much beefier PC to support the resolution. I'll say the resolution of the HTC Vive was low enough my old gaming laptop could drive it just fine. But man, the screen door effect was always present. I like flight sims, and reading the gauges was always difficult unless you got up close. So I waited until a much higher res HMD came along where that wouldn't be such an issue, thus the Crystal. I knew HTC made quite a few headsets, but didn't realize they made 11! My first Android phone was a HTC DROID Incredible, good little phone.

[@pungenthuman]

This is really calming, I don't know why.

[@josalt]

🥰

[@thebigm8052]

The video I’ve been waiting for

[@josalt]

🥰

[@thebigm8052]

@@josalt honestly can’t wait for more episodes

[@atti-tube]

this guy is all over my recommended doing literally everything W channel

[@josalt]

🥰🥰

[@rjaxplayz]

FINALLY I WUZ WAITIN FOR THIS VID

[@ShiYuMeng2]

Nice vid, you demonstrate why HTC has a confusing line up. I had no idea they had so many different versions of the Vive. Have you tried the PSVR2?

[@josalt]

Yep way too many haha. Nah never tired psvr. I want to though

[@way_of_escape]

This really feels like a labor of love video and I love it!

[@agamer9347]

I remember my Vive. Used the thing till it almost broke then gave it to my friend who used it till the headset and both controllers stopped working. A very flawed but amazing headset.

[@Razzy_III]

If you still have the Vive Pro or Vive Pro Eye lying around there is a popular mod to swap the lenses with GearVR lenses, and the screens with Samsung Odyssey+ screens. Cuts down a ton on the glare and screen door effect.

[@josalt]

Yeah i should have tried that! I have a gear vr

[@Insanegrox]

>Gets to vive pro eye, doesn't use it for anything other than neos (it can be used for eye tracking in VRchat, ChilloutVR, and Resonite aka neos's successor), doesn't use face tracker addon (understandable, those are harder to get than the pro eye itself these days, also isn't bundled with the pro eye) >Still puts it at top of list :o

[@Sepfox]

The Pro Eye is still basically the S-tier facetracking headset. repairable, modable (I slammed Odyssey+ displays and GearVR lenses in mine), lighthouse tracked. There's actually plenty in the wild from my experience, but they are still so hard to come by because those that have it, don't get rid of it. It's also the only HTC VR headset using Tobii eyetracking even to this day.

[@BLAHAJ_GAMING431]

The editing is just getting better and better! Good job josalt!

[@josalt]

Thanks mate it means a lot

[@PatrikTheDev]

Awesome video, really shows a tale of a company who made something great, then forgot what made them great, then remembered at the last moment…when it was too late (Vive Pro 2). Their phones feel the same way tbh. I remember using the og Vive when it came out and was so impressed with it…then they got steamrolled by their competition

[@DiamondDepthYT]

This is amazing. I loved the Oculus one. This one's the same! I'm so jealous of you, lol.

[@josalt]

Thanks legend!

[@perhap_s]

as a vive pro 2 owner, combining it with the index controllers is like heaven

[@nutauri]

7:24 I love the HTC Veev

[@josalt]

VEEEEEV

[@a_corndog]

Why aren't you more popular I love your videos❤

[@josalt]

too kind 🥰

[@KacopFaint]

another great video

[@josalt]

Thanks again!

[@LowxyNova]

I am using the htc vive for abt 4 years now and i did actually get used to the controllers. i absolutely love this headset and i cant imagine what would have been if i hadnt bought it.

[@josalt]

Oh wow! And you still havent upgraded?

[@LowxyNova]

@@josalt nope i didnt but listen. I just found a good deal yeaterday and im gonna pick up the vive pro 2 the day after tomorrow.

[@EnzoBergstrom]

S tier video as always

[@josalt]

Thx!

[@MobiusGT]

honestly that flip up headset feature looks cool so. often do i take my headset off and drink water/wipe off the condensation on the lens. flip up would make that so much faster

[@josalt]

Maybe it would be on a smaller headset but its annoying on the cosmos. It doesnt flip all the way up and it impacts where the headset fits on your head. !

[@MobiusGT]

@@josalt makes sense

[@tomc1380]

Nice informative video mate. I've owned 3x Vive headsets over the last 5yrs; OG Cosmos, Vive Pro1, and XR Elite. My OG Cosmos has been packed away a long time ago thanks to poor tracking. My Preordered XR Elite went back for a refund because I never could get wireless PCVR to work as well as my Quest Pro. Too bad, because it was nice and comfy. I still have and use my +4.5yo VP1 (with 2x2.0 base stations, Etsy Gear VR lens mod, and Index controllers). This headset still works well and night flying in sims like msfs2020 and playing darkish games is very nice. However, the SDE is a lot more than I'd like and even with a lot of super sampling thanks to my rtx4090, the clarity is nowhere near as good as my QPro and Q3. I never bothered getting a VP2 because of its lack of oled, together with fresnel lens that could not be upgraded like my VP1 w/Etsy lens mod. Maybe wishful thinking but I'm hoping in the near future to see a Vive Pro3 with high res micro-oled screens and pancake lens. Also hopefully in a bit smaller form factor. If Vive doesn't come out with something like this I think that their days in PCVR may likely be coming to an end. Time will tell I guess. Anyway, thanks again for your vid mate and best cheers from the GC.

[@arcticfoxacosta]

hey josalt how do you feel about the rift and vive screen looks like? are they almost the same? just the overall experience not the small detail different. i got a vive kit without link box so i can't see it myself but i do have a working rift kit

[@AroGrooves]

this video makes me want to buy a pro 2, i love it

[@josalt]

Yeah resolution is nuts but get big screen beyond haha

[@dogboygamer689]

have you kept all the headsets from both oculus/meta and vive videos?

[@N0idea76]

Good day when josalt posts

[@josalt]

🥰

[@MarcBossYT]

Cool!

[@whosastrofc]

damn bro finally uploaded

[@josalt]

Yeah i need to make some shorter videos

[@Boxled]

this is super interesting stuff

[@josalt]

Yeah there is so much stuff could have made the video like 3 hours long haha

[@ProFam311]

Im thinking of buying an OG vive to replace my oculus quest 2 as it has been giving me a lot of problems recently and I'm thinking of getting in to PCVR. I found a full kit at my local CeX for just over £100 GBP. Is it worth it or should I save up for something better such as a valve index?

[@streetle]

what how is this so underrated

[@josalt]

🥰

[@maxxbbie69]

finally, normal microphone on the focus 3

[@SegaTitan]

peak as always

[@josalt]

Thanks mate

[@ItsSpeedyVR]

Lit Ong fr skibidi

[@josalt]

nocap fr

[@ItsSpeedyVR]

@@josaltfr fr? Nocap?

[@techstuff3338]

39:48 That is called chromatic aberration and is in basically every vr headset. However, some headsets are better at making it less noticeable than others.

[@josalt]

Oo thats the word for it! I feel like the oculus headset have a lot less it gets extreme on the vive ones.

[@techstuff3338]

@@josalt I agree. I have never tried a vive headset but I have tried some headsets from the same time. I have the quest 3 and it basically does not exist on there. You have to focus on it and change your perspective to see it. Thank goodness though, it was definitely something they needed to upgrade! Also nice vid, very interesting to see how vive has changed throughout the years!

[@Iron_Soil]

deffinitly agree with your rating

[@josalt]

king of memes is here

[@VHS_Serenity]

i like the touchpad over any joystick, because you can be perfectly accurate on where you move your finger on the touchpad, unlike a joystick that is highly compacted and squished together so its harder to get an accurate position

[@josalt]

Never heard that before. It drives me nuts for games with locomotion movement but to each there own!

[@VHS_Serenity]

@josalt it can be a bit awkward at first, but it's very nice when you've used it for a couple hours around in the two digit mark (I might be a bit biased because I've used my original htc vive for 2800 hours... until it finally broke edleast)

[@lasermonkGT]

i have the oculus quest 2 with the link cable and its amazing its not bad i recomend for someone who wants to play pc vr you might has well just buy the link cable and you get a very good pcvr experience

[@jordy7028]

i have a vive pro and i love it its comfy its well balanced the resolution is fine. but the controllers... they do they job (most times) but are not great any more. i want some knuckels but man there pricey. great vid btw

[@josalt]

yeah agreed! Also thankyou!

[@fionnogrady9135]

Love this ❤

[@bonelabguy1]

Wow. That's a lot of headsets. Didn't know they did that.

[@josalt]

Niether haha

[@freewings2188]

Haven't watched the full video but i had the og vive i bought it used in early 2019 and probably have close to 1k hrs in steamvr (steamvr server never closes so it says i have over 5k hrs) The base stations are still working fine i have them set to always on.

[@KawaiiRazorBlade]

another banger. I have no idea how you can afford all these headsets though XD

[@josalt]

buying and re selling as i go through

[@KawaiiRazorBlade]

@@josalt smart!, did you keep any headsets by the end?

[@Killertamagotchi]

It's amazing how often you can screw up the micro on HMDs. So now not just with HTC HMDs but also with various others. Somehow, so far only Valve has managed to install a really good microphone🤔

[@stevenn110]

you should try the microsoft tape (Windows mixed reality lenovo explorer held together by tape)

[@josalt]

Lol

[@Spaceworld-95]

Great video, can you do a video like this one but about the chinese vr headsets?

[@josalt]

Id love to!

[@AubreyExists]

Wow all these games on every headset look really good considering I only have a quest 2

[@josalt]

PCVR is king haha

[@user-no5wb2ke5f]

this is the best youtuber ever

[@josalt]

🥰

[@EPICXVR]

I have the HTC vive pro 2 and when you get everything setup it is so good and really good for gtag but if you are getting the pro 2 get valve index controllers but the pro 2 is the best headset

[@RidgeXR_2]

You should buy every SteamVR headset after this! Index, Beyond, Pimax, etc

[@josalt]

There are so many 🤣 That would kill me

[@nerddeku9675]

I know it might not go viral as much but I would love to see a video like this from PSVR1 and PSVR2, even if there are only 2 of them hahaha

[@Midnightthecatvr]

Actually sony made vrs before the psvr they connected to your TV or console the sony glasstron was the original but there were some other ones too

[@Midnightthecatvr]

It'd be interesting to see how that would go if he did make one

[@nerddeku9675]

@@Midnightthecatvr yes, since the PSVR1 has excellent exclusives and its light tracking is very interesting to see.

[@wubsi1518]

to be honest after seeing this getting a used htc vive 1gen with a gear vr mod seems like an insane deal

[@aclv27]

can definitely vouch for the base stations being not the most reliable... one of them is broken so i can only look one way or i lose all tracking lmao. it works out for the games i play at least?

[@pracalt1051]

Great video Do you think og htc vive is good option to get to steam vr for cheap?

[@josalt]

Yeah definitely! Can upgrade to valve knuckle controllers later on!

[@pracalt1051]

@@josalt alright thanks!

[@ItzAngelPlayz_]

wow just in time to be the 100th comment! im thinking of getting the valve index, reckon i can get one? or is it pretty tough since we live in australia

[@josalt]

They usually pop up on facebook marketplace all the time!

[@ItzAngelPlayz_]

@@josalt tysm!

[@thatoneminecrafter2945]

Review every Pico headset

[@josalt]

Id love to

[@magentawool2556]

Dog, what the heck happened with the pro eye microphone? That headset seems to suck in general, from the hand and eye tracking to the microphone, to even trying to buy it. Also i love the video!

[@josalt]

Lol yeah i didnt mind using it tbh but it could have been so much better

[@mistavr9420]

im kinda confused dont they have the index too? (i know nothing about pcvr headsets)

[@josalt]

Not a HTC headset

[@mistavr9420]

@@josalt oh

[@Killswitch1411]

Vive Pro was HTCs last good HMD in my opinion lol. I've returned every other HTC Vive Product since then.

[@josalt]

Yeah i would agree with that. They just completely lost it. I think valve basically made the vive and its all been downhill since then

[@brokenstring21]

Did you buy the pro 2 and return that as well?

[@brokenstring21]

@@josalt Is the pro 2 worth the upgrade? This video seemed to show it was. If "money wasnt an issue..."

[@Killswitch1411]

@@brokenstring21 I didn't, because of all the bad things I kept hearing about it.

[@JBeanus]

Awesome video, very informative! Seems like every HTC headset is way overpriced for what they're able to do, compared to Meta's headsets that can do everything the HTCs can do for much less money, just with lower resolutions. And they can't seem to be able to get the tracking down on their headsets that feature built in tracking quite like Meta can.

[@josalt]

Yeah they really seam to struggle in the engineering and software department

[@Why_It]

I owned a Vive 1. I really wanted a Pro, but couldn't justify the price. I now own a Quest 3 and just either SteamLink play the Meta exclusives on that. I've never seen anything past the Pro, but I've heard of the Cosmos. HTC really couldn't hold up their quality past their second rendition and that's kinda sad.

[@monkeyrick69]

w video love it

[@josalt]

🥰

[@GamingBearYT]

You should make a video on phone vr headsets XD

[@josalt]

I should

[@VHS_Serenity]

the htc vive was my first headset i ever had, and now it is broken :( but edleast i have a quest 3 to replace it now

[@josalt]

Quest 3 probably better haha

[@nicholasjorgensen2818]

I love the VIVE cosmos there’s was gonna be a htc VIVE cosmos play and when it was supposed to release it was gonna be 500$ and there was supposed to be a htc VIVE cosmos XR but it never came it was gonna be wireless.

[@TurbopropFlightSimulator339]

14:09 am i the only one who heard the Memehub community intro?

[@chippdbanjo]

vivefries would love this

[@josalt]

would he?

[@Tamf]

I feel kinda bad for HTC because they had such a good hold on VR technology back when the Vive came out originally but they just never tried to improve and invent new things so every headset after that was basically the same thing and it had the same issues as the ones before them

[@redpen8810]

Pimax next!

[@josalt]

👀

[@J2grossplays]

do windows mixed reality next

[@josalt]

there are 12 i think 🤣 im broke

[@Razzy_III]

Been sticking with my Pro Eye for 3 years now because nothings been worth upgrading to

[@josalt]

Yeah that was an awesome headset!

[@CaptainDanger-]

You should do a Rift S in 2024 review

[@xX_cumtech_Xx]

I love these kinds of videos :)

[@josalt]

🥰

[@queefcheif9306]

is the biggest thing to be able to get into vr is to have a good PC?

[@blake6248]

Dude probably get a two-bedroom house for all those headsets

[@josalt]

not quite haha

[@spl12345s]

Do one video covering the valve index in 2024 please!

[@josalt]

I should

[@spl12345s]

@@josalt my man! Didn’t expect you to respond! I luv ur videos bro!