I bought the Valve Index so you don't have to (BE WARNED!)

[@BaffledVR]

Ill give it to you as a fellow Vive Pro user It is a very good headset, but the Index is the best bang for the buck headset. And recommending a quest 2 isn't a bad choice (The 3 would be a better option to give) but recommending the Pimax Crystal I can not support. The Pimax Crystal is a $1500 dollar headset and not to mention the tracking and optical issues that plague Pimax headsets. If cables are the issue your trying to drive home a Quest Pro does the job pretty well for a cost vs value high-end headset. But for social vr the valve index is the best you can get with a good mic, good value, and actually good company backing it. Ps. I went through like 5 vive pro cables in 2 years, cables breaking is just a normal vr thing.

[@20nik]

good point! thanks for the comment :)

[@scott4826]

Had my index since alyx was announced. 0 issues. Same cables, controllers and base stations.

[@SturmFloof]

Same here

[@no1deea]

Same!

[@Zp3x]

Do you use a pulley system

[@FenTheWolf]

For anyone wondering whether or not to buy the index, after seeing this video: buy it. I dont know what else you(as in Nik) must have done to your cables for this to happen... or maybe you've just received a faulty product, but I can tell everyone here that the Valve Index very much is worth its money and you should buy it. I have had mine for several years now and its amazing. I unplug it from the cable box thing literally every single time after I am done using it and I use it at least 2-3 times a week (usually way more). I am extremely active in VR, cause I'm a dancer, have stepped endless times on the cable and have rolled over it with my chair at least a handful of times. It still works like a charm. My very first experience with VR was actually the Quest 2 and I am so happy that Ive upgraded to the Index. And having the audacity to recommend the Pimax Crystal as an expensive alternative is laughable... genuinely disappointed in this video and you right now, I used to like your videos... but this one seems very ill intentioned, almost like you wanna stir drama for views and clicks

[@moonoramaVR]

I got my index last year in April and I’ve had no problem with any of the cables. I’ve definitely not been a lazy player since I move around quite a lot. I even accidentally ran over the cable with my chair a couple times and it still is looking perfect, no flickering or sparkles. You must have gotten very unlucky.

[@RealityGrim9749]

You should make a video on the NovaBeast, it's a new avatar that just dropped and it looks beautiful!! (I just remember that you said you wanted more ideas on one of ur other vids)

[@Teknickel_ftw]

I've had one for years and 1 cable go bad on me. Plus if its still under warranty valve has by far the best customer support.

[@BudZ-bn9ng]

very odd, ive played 2,000+ hours on vrc in the last year, sleeping, partying, and all sorts of other things and I am on my 2nd cable and og controllers. I leave all my gear, headset included, on the floor and everything gets stepped on and kicked around by my 80 pound dog and myself at least 5 times a day. Also ran the cable over with my desk chair a bunch as well. I'd say its around about the same durability as a high quality HDMI cable. I also very rarely unplug my headset for anything so that may be the cause of the issue's you're describing. hope you figure something out because I love my index.

[@itsdavemars]

Pretty much same, I've got over 2k hours on my Index, all standing, moving around games. I'm definitely not the most gentle with it either, and I've never had to replace anything. OG cable, OG controllers, everything is perfect. I do use a pulley system so I don't leave the cable lying on the ground or "run over it with a chair" like he was saying.

[@heaven5605]

Not very odd. Almost everyone I know who uses the index had issues a couple months into owning it. One friend dropped a controller from a few feet off the ground once and it broke. You're very lucky.

[@SturmFloof]

I have it since 2020 and still no problems.

[@LucaW.]

The index is actually great.

[@MaNameNeff]

My original htc vive cable has been through hell. tugged multiple times, sometimes causing my headset to fly off. Cable ran over with chair. I highly doubt the cable is worse on an index that came out years later. for much higher price tag too. idk though

[@drewplez]

Whats ur vr headset recomendation tho ?? Everyone still recommend index 😢😢

[@20nik]

Quest 3 prob As it has full face tracking Valve index is great but very fragile and you would have to take care of it.

[@heaven5605]

​@@20nik iirc Quest 3 doesn't have face tracking. Quest Pro does.

[@20nik]

oh yeah my bad@@heaven5605

[@GooeyDoggy]

L post tbh

[@Cymbiotic]

Mine flatlined 2 weeks in due to a display issue. Fuck 'em.

[@gpu_collector]

I had bad luck with a base station and my cable is artifacting badly after 10 months of hard usage which i rma'd for and id say it was 100% worth the money

[@mikamelin3022]

mine hasnt had any issues at all and ive had it for years. Also heard it can break easily but not for me. I treat it with care, its pretty expensive so i baby it. Also im just plain against Metas headsets and their business-practices so i wont ever support them, but... their headsets are a great bang for the buck. Still id go with index

[@exbo_vr99293]

DO you untighten youyr headset before you put it on because if it is tightened it crushes the cable and i bought mine from gamestop and its worked fine for 2 weeks so far nothing is wrong.

[@immersivedevices-im8dl]

Keeping the cable on a tether is probably better. I bet you're doing something not intended to the cable that you're forgetting such as pinching the cable somewhere or rolling over it with your chair. The index is on the most fragile end of the VR headsets and I don't understand how the cable can be that expensive, but in my case, keeping it overhead and strapping a piece of tape on the back of the headset made it so I have it for 4 years without any cable issues. I understand the frustration of it not surviving 2 months, I'm sorry for that.

[@heaven5605]

Man, why's it gotta be so fragile though? 130 dollar cable that can't survive a couple rolls under an office chair is insane.

[@kani1926]

I was thinking buying an index some months ago because i have fbt and index controllers, but when meta announced the quest 3 i really changed mind and nowdays i am really happy with my quest 3 the resolution its insane (i make my index controllers work with 2 extra dongles)

[@Heartglow_Roo]

Alrededy dead cable?? Dude, you got that a month ago, wtf

[@20nik]

Yup....:/

[@SauceVR.]

Lol this video is funny im to broke i dont even have a pc im happy with my quest 2.

[@blappeck124]

your point is pointless if you play vr chat

[@20nik]

That makes 0 sense

[@Wolfentodd]

My first cable lasted me 3 years almost but I agree The 1500 dollars (after shipping) just isn’t worth it with the controllers going to shit after the slightest bump (Literally if you tap them together even lightly, the tracking will no longer be consistently reliable) The only thing the index has going for it is the resolution which is becoming outdated sooooo Yeah it’s a scam.

[@Wolfentodd]

Also it’s not just the cable that’s cheap. Every single component is made with cheap, flexible and extremely fragile plastic

[@bgbg204]

Man I was thinking of getting the index

[@gpu_collector]

Ive had my index for a year and my cable started to go bad because i was careless so im careful with my current cable, its a great headset

[@BaffledVR]

If you want to get FBT its the best headset you could put your money into. Just be careful with the cable. Dont roll you chair over the cable

[@20nik]

agreed@@BaffledVR

[@spidermonkeynr1]

Just buy it. I a mod for alot of people that stream with them and I do never see those problems. It's a great great device.

[@OrangeProtogen324]

i was thinking to get a valve index for christmas with my dad and you told me not to get the valve index for christmas because the cable is very fragile i have to be careful when i'm using valve index for vrchat with my friends i mean i would be careful if i have a valve index for christmas do you know people don't care and want to use valve index anyway so you should leave people alone if he had a valve index that's all i can explain in this comment

[@20nik]

@OrangeProtogen324 this was a video mostly to warn people about how fragile the index is. If you want to buy it and use it go for it! But keep in mind that it has issues for how much money you spend on it.

[@OrangeProtogen324]

@@20nik okay i will be careful using index i alway be careful using quest 2 :D

[@RandoReign]

bro youre 4 years too late to tell everyone that they dont have to buy one. the index was great 2 years ago. other companies have released 3-4 headsets in the time index has been out. the problem isnt the cable when its under warranty, so im assuming you bought used on ebay. the problem is valve not understanding the market.

[@20nik]

Nah dude look it up Index is very poorly built... Still an amazing headset but it sucks

[@rocy9789]

every pro and cons about whatever kind of hardware helps alot. you are not alone with valve vr = fragile

[@lukescrapwalker]

This is one of those cases where youtube has to be inclusive with you. This is a sad excuse for a video. have my valve index for 2 years and i have no issues with my cable.. Your 5 seconds of fame are over..

[@20nik]

You are just one of the lucky ones who didnt have issues with their cable or you sit down all day if you googled it you would see that the index is poorly built and sucks. ALso i didnt do this for fame, but rather to warn people about the issues index has