I Broke The ONLY X-Dome in Existence

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[@durstongear]

As a quick summary and update on the pole break, the original issue was the metal ferrule/insert coming unglued. That was with a pole set that I did mention ahead of time was a pre-production poleset and not built with the normal construction methods. During actual production Easton does a push/pull test on every ferrule so we'll have these glued well in place on the production tents. When the ferrule did slide out of position and was replaced by a sleeve, the sleeve creates stress points at the ends (as mentioned) because the sleeve leverages all the force that is normally distributed onto a small focus point at the end. This is especially the case when the sleeve is oversized like the first one here. That oversized sleeve creates leverage and focused stress, which caused the other breaks (as you mention). I don't think this is representative of normal use or even repair with a fitted sleeve. I suspect most tent poles would break fairly easily with an oversized sleeve. If the sleeve was sized for the poles (like the orange tubing at the end) the stress would be better distributed and not leveraged. So I am confident this was a pre-production gluing issue and a domino effect from there relative to the sleeve (especially being oversized). The actual poles we use are the same poles used by quite a few other brands (e.g. Samaya, Tarptent, Big Agnes, MSR) and here we are using dual archs of the smaller size (on the ends) or a single arch of the large size (on top) so it is quite a bit stronger than many other CF tents that use a single arch of the smaller size. Without the stress point of the sleeve, the poleset is normally several times stronger than the aluminum polesets in comparable tents, and I expect it to do very well in windy conditions without that issue and when pitched for the conditions (e.g. guylines when appropriate, optional trekking pole supports if really windy). This incident does raise a good question about the repairability of CF. It probably does crack easier than aluminum if there is a focused stress point like this. But also an oversized sleeve is pretty hard on all poles. A better fitting sleeve like the one at the end would be much better, and also having a little flex in the sleeve would distributing stresses much better (e.g. a composite/plastic sleeve that is pretty stiff but with a bit of give to it would distribute stress more). Ideal fix though would be a replacement section. We will certainly have those available. Cheers, Dan

[@themodularmodular]

If anything, Dan will take care of you when the warranty demands raise up. I won’t be worried too much about it

[@Pasequale100]

Is an Xmid Solid with fizan aluminium poles eventually more stormworthy and less likely to collapse/ break than the Xdome with carbon poles?

[@durstongear]

​@@Pasequale100 They are both quite good in the regular mode of use, but if you have the X-Dome with carbon poles AND the optional trekking pole supports then it is the best of all because it has both structures.

[@euphonek]

Are field repair pole sleeves going to be provided with the tent? Or available for purchase? Ordered mine yesterday!

[@Pasequale100]

@@durstongear i love everythin about the xdome, especially the trekking pole support!! I just wait for the solid inner version!!

[@josephthompson9289]

I think that this video was released in a hasty manner and really tells us nothing about the actual tent that customers will purchase. Half the video is spent explaining the broken pole situation rather than going into useful specs and pros and cons (although there is some of that). I think getting this video out before other KZbinrs could clouded Steve’s judgment here, and in the end gives a negative vibe to a tent that doesn’t necessarily deserve one

[@robinlevick7246]

This channel is clickbait, reviewer has no credibility

[@arnoldkotlyarevsky383]

I would happily buy a two person version if this tent with aluminum poles and take the weight penalty. The benefits of a fly first pitch in the rain, plus the interior space is very hard to argue with. Dan, if youre here in the comments, TAKE MY MONEY.

[@smellybearc7411]

Y? Are aluminum poles less prone to snapping?

[@squngy0]

@@smellybearc7411 Probably less likely to "snap", but more likely to bend out of shape (which would introduce a weak point).

[@DrJimCares]

I had purchased and returned a freezip 2p from zpacks which has carbon fiber poles - the same thing happened - that aluminum sleeve inside came loose so I returned the whole tent. Very expensive tent and didn’t think it would give me any longevity. Concerned about those carbon fiber poles - just purchased an Arcdome ultra from tarptent with them

[@snoop2477]

On point. It would be worth having heavy, more sturdy poles. Weight isnt everything. Great design

[@bcamping1]

Design is great. DAC poles and 70D floor would be a good option for those who are not hiking around the hemisphere.

[@tubulzr]

While not a Durston user/customer myself, I find this video to be ballsy. Putting up a prototype in windy conditions and seeing a pole snap multiple times. Then again, clear explanation on the loose alu connections, easily fixable production wise, not a 'carbon failure'. For a true 4-season tent I'd like a full fabric inner with mesh panel(s) integrated. I'm a medium-weight hiker, boots and >2kg 4s 1p tent; I appreciate the comfort of sturdiness (and then some). If I'd ever choose a lightweight tent again, this one, at least the '2025 with full inner', seems very attractive. Love to see more upcoming videos using/testing this tent.

[@iamdorusyt]

Would love to see some proper testing with a production version. Really curious if it is as storm proof as claimed. This example was doomed to fail due to the improper repair, and to me not really a fair review.

[@SchmakerSchmoo]

Fixing the metal grommet coming loose is something that happens all the time on basically every pole set I've owned (carbon, aluminum, etc.) from every company (marmot, north face, MSR, etc.). It takes 5 seconds to fix with by pushing the grommet back out with something skinny (coat hanger) and then putting a dab of glue. The "repair" in the video is egregiously bad and doomed the poles to fail.

[@ChrisCollins001]

Do I need this tent? No. Do I want this tent? Yes. Will I get this tent? Most likely. When I first heard that this tent was being created I signed up to be notified when it was ready for the public to purchase. I told my wife I found another tent I just had to have and I was informed that I may have a problem. I told her I do have a problem, a very in tents problem....because I'm into tents. 😁

[@EVANHIRSCHMANG]

I bought the Xmid 1 like 3 months ago and have loved it. Im sure the X dome is great and looks roomier than the xmid 1

[@obchristo]

Tell your wife it's a simple math problem. # of tents you need = # of tents you have + 1.

[@SchmakerSchmoo]

Why did you not just push the metal grommet back out with a coat hanger or similar and put a bit of glue on it? Using such an oversized repair sleeve seems like you were hoping the carbon would break due to the tremendous surprise leverage forces you are putting on the carbon. Works nice for views and controversy I guess. I've had the same metal grommets come loose on my Marmot and North Face tents (who use Aluminum poles) and it is a quick fix.

[@luisarellano8917]

I've done the same! But in the field its definitely harder. I've had to struggle for up to 30 min getting it out. They need to glue them better, or find a better way to attach the "ferrule"

[@Champagnepeppiii]

Would love to see the tent come with metal poles. CF poles have been a problem on other tents in the past. Only time will tell.

[@smellybearc7411]

I ordered this tent cuz Durston has earned my (and many other people’s) trust by now. Though I’m curious to see how this tent stacks up to the X Mid tents in storm. The thing with the x mid is that it has fewer breakable parts and could be adjusted and repaired more easily when needed. The caveat is that you need to pitch it properly for it to reach full potential. With this tent though, I feel like it would probably last longer before it collapses in the wind. It’s also a lot easier to pitch for it to achieve max sturdiness and is definitely easier to move around. But at the same time, once the pole breaks, it looses its functionality as a shelter against wind completely and will require some spare parts to repair. I think the cost to replace the carbon fiber poles would also be higher than the cost to replace a set of trekking poles(especially if they are not made out of carbon fiber). But at the end of day, not super concerned as long as the factory doesn’t f this up.

[@BigDawgCAM]

The Durston design really shines in a one-person tent: - 2 lb total - Polyester > Nylon - Loads more internal and vestibule space - Sets up dry in the rain - Storm worthy (when not broke) - Magnetic tie backs - Long enough for tall hikers - Wide enough for internal gear/dog Dan is just so good at addressing all of the complaints individuals have with an entire category of tents. Feels like the first 1P free-standing tent that's actually worth consideration versus taking the weight penally for a 2P counterpart. Excited to see what he does with the two person X-Dome next year!

[@kurtpenner2362]

I find it interesting that the comments below are mostly favourable when the vid shows almost nothing but problems. Or a single problem. A fixable one. Not that I disagree. Rather, I am still very enthused about this tent like the rest of you. This is because of the great design and the huge amount of good will Dan has earned in the backpacking community. Well deserved.

[@durstongear]

Hi Kurt. The issues in the video are essentially just a pre-production gluing issue on the poles (we test for this during actual production) and then further breaks caused by an oversized sleeve creating stress points. It's not representative of how the tent would actually fair with a production poleset and tighter sleeve.

[@pedro1970maya]

If faced with bad sleeves, even with good ones, reinforce with duct tape, of course, a few inches on and padt the sleeve edges to absorb energy and prevent splintering. Also tuck a mini strip of tape, or paper, or anything soft and thin into the sleeve edge first to eliminate some of the sharpness.

[@wishdarkstalkaz4050]

I went in blind & was one of the fortunate to get my hands on the original 1st release of the X-Mid pro2 (site crashing was sooooo much fun). With this shelter...absolutely love the design concepts & this time will be patient & wait for a release that incorporates the best material that Challange has to offer for it. And I will put it to the test in Nepal.

[@Lastnightmatters]

That tent imploded like Oceangate!

[@tomnoyb8301]

Main reason to bring a tent is bugs. That's what's so great about integrated bugnets of X-mid Pro's. Holding-out for: 1) DCF, 2) Integrated-bugnet, 3) Two-doors, 4) Shaving some ounces off this boat-anchor (just-kidding, it's a great sil-poly design.). Steven's a pretty tough grader. Once again, Mr Durston's design is 'Best-in-Class' on the first go. ...The reason for two-doors is cross-ventilation, not just access.

[@tanvach]

I love that now we have more competition in the UL free standing tent space. Would love to get the tent, but having bought the OG Xmid Pro 2 and saw how quickly Dan iterated his designs, I’m going to wait until early production and design flaws get ironed out.

[@rbreiff73]

100%. The improvements from the early Pro 2 to the current lineup have really transformed the design from meh to best in class imo.

[@nexorabolis]

This Tent is exactly what I was looking for for my moto camping trips! Looks just right

[@johanostman]

It is quite surprising that you don't know of other fully free-standing tents that have been around for decades, such as the Hilleberg Staika and Allak models.

[@BackpackingUK]

and the Unna!

[@rpenm]

The splice is focusing stress at its ends because it flexes less than the pole. The old aluminum pole will probably flex better than the sleeve due to its lower diameter, but will likely still weaken the pole.

[@Pattower]

4:17 Thank you for this 3 second shot.

[@Berttheturt314]

1:04 if you put your gear in the tent, it should weigh it down still.... It's really cool that the tent can pitch with no stakes even with the rain fly, idk why you downplayed it so much

[@WalterLockwood]

I bought a Tarptent Scarp 1 with the aluminum cyclone poles for a trip to Iceland last August. The inner tubing on one of the pole sections came unglued and slipped into the pole section. Exactly the same issue as what happened in this video. I was able to continue using the tent by using the “splint” tube over the section that could no longer connect. This was a real pain to deal with halfway through my backpacking trip, but it worked. When I got home I called Tarptent and they suggested it was due to a bad batch of poles from Easton and sent me a new one. And they assured me this wouldn’t be a problem going forward. I’ve never seen or heard of this being a problem in the past, but I guess it is now with these ultralight poles? Also, I thought Tarptent had sent me the carbon fiber poles by mistake initially just because they do look and feel just like carbon fiber.

[@olivern4784]

I have already ordered my tent. I hope the problem with the carbon fiber poles is related to the tent being a preproduction model. PS I needed a new tent. I was debating between the X-Mid 2 and the new X-Dome 1+ tent. After weighing the pros and cons, I purchased the X-Dome tent. I feel good about my decision.

[@joemorris6]

That's why we wait until kinks are worked out my friend... I'm sure Dan will stand by his product no matter what. You will be good!

[@durstongear]

Yes we do a glue test on everything during the real production.

[@dontpanicbotanics]

I think we gotta wait for production models to really judge. Love the innovation, I might wait till the Gen 2 version.

[@AndrewParkOutdoors]

We had an MSR access and on first pitch one alu ferrule slipped inside it's carbon sleeve and had to be fished out and glued. Also had the TNF Assault Future light and it randomly snapped a carbon pole on pitching and not even at a stress point. As a result carbon and composite give me the fear !

[@coolbreezeoutdoors7177]

Maybe if you attached the body first, the pole wouldn’t have broke. Ridge pole is ALWAYS last. You proved the reason why.

[@McBlamin]

Could you explain that in more detail? It would be much appreciated!

[@Harry-Giles]

Great review. Agree with the comments on preferring aluminum here. I like the tent design and the company.

[@axelw273]

Own a Zpacks Free Zip 2P Freestanding tent with 6 stakes weighs 2 lbs and 1.3 ounces, has magnetic tiebacks, has 34 sq feet of floor and vestibule (26.25 tent and 7.75 vestibules), and the carbon fiber poles don’t break. Granted the X-Dome is over half the price which is impressive. Used so far in Alpine Lakes Wilderness at 5400’. Minimal condensation with wind. Stood up fine with 50 mph gusts at Tank Lakes. Do a comparison between the two tents with full snow load in a blizzard!

[@axelw273]

And I will order the X-Dome when is available to do the comparison myself! 😅

[@axelw273]

And to be fair on the pole break is that I have had that aluminum connector come loose on poles before. Easy to fix in the field!

[@timmo971]

I like a lot of other people have been watching durston closely but not leapt because of price. Thanks Steve you just sold me on the x mid 1 pro/ x mid 2+. I’m not convinced of the need for a freestanding tent. I do however wish the previous floor plan of the x mid pro 1 was more like this bad boy. I’d always want a little side space for pack and other stuff and not thought a pole in the interior or lack of 2nd vestibule a problem.

[@lakedistrict9450]

Good reminder to inspect the poles regularly, and carry a splicing tube or stick and. string for infield repair. Looks like a fantastic tent with more space than the X mid, and the benefits of. a free standing tent.

[@RichardMathews-gv7lb]

Probably wait for 2nd or 3rd production run before diving in to buy one. Has everything I want but solid inner and necessary tweeks that become apparent with usage would increase my purchasing confidence

[@TT79-]

I have never heard of this tent. And I dont know about anyone else...but this one looks like a huge winner for me.

[@EVANHIRSCHMANG]

durston has been killing it for a while. Its an ultralight thing not just a normal tent

[@whicks3]

I’ve seen other KZbinrs with composite pole iissues. When I bought my Lightfighter 1, I made sure it had the older style aluminum poles. I’m glad !!

[@clayl9202]

Another excellent video, thank you! You might want to get yourself a Litefighter tent. You'll have a sturdier tent and bigger quads. 🙂 I'm a big Durston fan (I also have an X-Mid 2), but for wear and tear in the woods and everywhere else, I need something sturdier.

[@larsmuller5541]

Looking forward to more wind testing 👍

[@KristianSloth]

The X-Dome is a really cool looking tent. I love my Hilleberg Unna completely freestanding dome tent... but yea I would never trust carbon poles.

[@Andy-Mesa]

This is a perfect example of why I have never used tent poles of any kind, and why I stopped using carbon fiber trekking poles years ago. I’m convinced this is the most storm worthy tent in its class (we’re not talking Hilleberg here) but for a variety of reasons I’ll pass.

[@deanabowman9661]

As we're approaching the cold season, can we talk Winter use? Especially in Canadian Rockies. @Dan?

[@rockymountboy]

Nope. Single Wall. 3-season. Not for use in Canadian winters.

[@durstongear]

@@rockymountboy It is double wall and good for major snow loads with the trekking pole support. A full solid interior would be even better but you can very much use it for almost all winter camping.

[@durstongear]

It's quite good for this. It is sturdy, doublewall, has some solid fabric, and enough strength for snowloads (especially if you use the optional trekking poles).

[@BeedeeEx]

New Channel name suggestion - MyLifeBreakingGear. :) Thanks again for another great video. I love how you really put all the gear to the test!

[@luisarellano8917]

I have a 3p hubba hubba with those easton poles. I've had the same problem with the metal sleeve falling inside, probably because of a lack of glue as well. I love the tent poles but it has happened in multiple places. I've had to take apart the poles and re-glue the sleeves myself with caulk or pvc glue. They need to do it right in the first place.

[@luisarellano8917]

I also broke a tent pole because I didn't flue the "ferrule" in the middle. I was eventually able to find a new section for the tent poles.

[@LisaTheWanderingGeordie]

Pre ordered one yesterday 😁

[@BackcountryTreks]

I love everything this tent has to offer and at a fair price point. Excellent video as usual! 🍻

[@niceguy191]

Even without seeing this video I've always avoided carbon fiber in the backcountry. Aluminum is heavier, but will bend before it breaks and tends not to fail as catastrophically. I'm sure we've all seen bent tent or trekking poles that still did the trick; the carbon equivalent would've broken.

[@dcandjames]

Looks nice. Definitely considering it when my current tent dies...

[@jamess7181]

Great to see a comparison with Z Packs dome tent

[@vipe650r]

oooo, and I love the bonus fix idea for the tent at the end.

[@charliehodgson7222]

I've had carbon fibre poles - on a x-mid 1p - break. They were cheap from AliExpress though.Also broken Carbon Fibre trekking poles (Black Diamond) only use aluminium trekking poles now.

[@snoop2477]

Great, thoughtful review. This tent looks to be an amazing design for more open conditions. But the poles don't look up to that use case, might need nore robust poles? Polyester is the business as a fabric. Have it on my Argali tipi tent - stays taunt in the wet and beads water. Can I ask is the Thermarest Neo Loft more comfortable than the Neo Air? Mine's on the way put after 8 years and liking a bit more comfort next model

[@KrizAkoni]

Nice shots and overview - I really like the layout. I also have concerns about the poles - I use aluminum trekking poles for this reason. You didn’t seem to be trying to break it and it did several times. Guess we’ll see what happens as they enter the field.

[@durstongear]

We have tested the poles for a long time and they are quite good during normal use. The breaks here were a domino effect from that pre-production gluing issue (which we have quality checks for during actual production) and then stress points created by an oversized sleeve. With a production poleset the strength will be very good.

[@tc2156]

@MyLifeOutdoors can you comment about the footprint size compared to a Zpacks 1-person tent? I really like that I can squeeze my Zpacks tent into spots most others can’t. But I often wish I had just enough room to keep my pack inside so small critters don’t chew my stuff. This looks like it might be a nice compromise though I would wait for a DCF version. A DCF trekking pole version would be my dream.

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

If you consider guylines needed for Zpacks 1p tents I would say it’s comparable. It’s wider but doesn’t really need guylines so ends up taking about the same amount of space

[@tc2156]

@@MyLifeOutdoors thank you so much for answering and letting me know.

[@jaysmallen3067]

Thank you for the review and video! I have a solid 2 and love it, but this looks perfect for me n my pup. Living in the Eastern Sierra we have our weather and terrain challenges. I'll be ordering one of these beauties for sure! Nicely done Mr Durston 🙌🏻

[@davidcooper8390]

WOW, you are hard on your tents. I guess Dan sent it to the right person to test it out.

[@invaderjoshua6280]

Why would someone buy this and not a Hilleberg Rogen? That one can be set up fly first as well without the inner and is free standing as well.

[@BTurner.]

Or a Niak.

[@daviddownes8638]

Because it’s half the weight and a quarter of the price?

[@terryhikes]

well if you want to spend over 1k instead of under 400, and you want to lug around a few extra pounds to boot, aaaand not be able to go in snowy conditions, go for the Rogen, it's all you.

[@frstesiste7670]

Why? The price, the weight, max height inside and the Rogen is not free standing. They also use nylon and not polyester as the outer fabric. Btw, I think Hilleberg make excellent tents. I even own one myself, but light weight is not their strength. Almost all Scandinavian made tents used to be designed for setting up the outer first, now there are more exceptions but it's by far the most common design. I'd probably go for the Niak if I wanted a 1+/2 person tent from Hilleberg. It's not free standing though.

[@smellybearc7411]

We don’t need no education

[@wyregrasser7540]

I very happy with my Copper Spur but this tent is very intriguing to me. I like the "true" fly first pitch. Currently, I am looking for a small footprint 1p. Not sure about footprint size on this one 🤔🧐🤔 but it is still super cool. Thanks for the share. 👴

[@ManivanAdventures]

This thing looks awesome! Would love to see an option for aluminum poles eventually.

[@VelcorHF]

That is very interesting. I wonder if there was a flaw in your pole. They use carbon fiber on Sail Boats. It is up there with dyneema as a tough material. Well, we will know as more people start buying them and using them.

[@jkibble98]

Dan must be really busy. I thought for sure he'd have commented by now

[@smellybearc7411]

See Dan’s comments below

[@BackpackingUK]

#thesocialstalker 😂

[@RobinsonRDavid]

Thanks, very fair review. I’ll be jumping on the 2-person Dome.

[@midwestmikeonahike]

Sweet tent, hilarious fails in the video! Steve, do you think at 6'5" I would HAVE to sleep diagonally? Also, Dan, Would love this as a true two person tent, with double doors!

[@bluebellcrushedvelvet]

I slway love seeing your videos!! And you didn't disappoint either this time! I'm so happy to see you have such a good relationship and trust between you and dan from x-mid; and am delighted thst he gave YOU the chance to try it out before anyone else!! I'm just like... wow!!! Man i thought you might have abused it when i first started watching but it seems like it was all a very unfortunate set of events. Hope x-mid can adjust and improve things earning from your unfortunate experience.

[@restonthewind]

More trouble than their worth for me. I'm a kayak camper and don't obsess over weight. For a hiker, they're worth more but maybe not enough to endure your experience.

[@DanSerg]

This tent is the disenchantment of the 2024

[@Gelantious]

Neat, hoping the two person version will follow soon and have room for wide pads!

[@HunterJE]

Dan said in a comment on the announce vid that the XD2 is planned to fit two wides!

[@flyingcrocs8144]

I had a tent poll brake on me before. I used a stick and rope to mend it while camping worked ok.

[@kaya-sem]

The hilleberg soulo also needs no stakes

[@derekschinke2512]

"It is the only tent I know of that needs zero stakes to pitch properly" There are a ton of tents that require zero stakes, but vanishingly few ultralight ones.

[@BackpackingUK]

Trekkertent Soar is decent 👍

[@hdanna823]

Was looking forward to this tent but not sub 2lbs. Still keeping the tigerwall 2p. Think I need the Tarptent double rainbow li or zpacks triplex

[@ryanhooper4660]

Interesting to see but hard to say a prototype will equal the end product.

[@edmolash3401]

ZPacks, Nemo, and Big Agnes thanks you very much.

[@FeelTheOutdoor]

I used to like this channel, but releasing such a video a day after the launch of the tent is just evil and pure click bait. Specially since this is a pre production model. @mylifeoutdoors what are you trying to achieve with this video but clicks? Here you got one less follower for your channel...

[@Oldsparkey]

My thought is that I sleep on my left side and like to be facing the door. In this tent that is impossible with just one door. Also I don't care for the smaller end where your feet would go, with this set up I would have to have my head there. Again , not opposite the door. A 2nd door would cover that problem. As far as the polls breaking don't camp in a wind tunnel or in my case here in Florida during a Hurricane. Or applying excessive pressure to them when setting the tent up. Curious what might be in the plans for later down the trail , a 2 person one ?

[@EVANHIRSCHMANG]

the have a xmid 1 with two doors and and xmid 2 which is a two person already

[@leefamily7]

According the the Durston website, there’s an x-dome 2 in development.

[@snoop2477]

Also is it true that hail will penetrate dyneema fabric? Dan Becker had the guy from Zen Bivy on and he was joking about it?

[@garethmurphy8235]

Will there be a DCF Pro version is the question..?

[@patrickcoyne1292]

its crazy how rough people are with equipment. i’ve had the same tent for years. and see no need to replace it because something new came out. you people are all out of your minds. all cult brand followers

[@Nordictor78]

You had 1 job! 😂

[@1519Spring]

Nice fix.

[@marioneto50]

Looks like the breaks were a matter of both production defect and user error in the repair. Looks like a really promising tent, but I also think it's a shame it didn't have the X crossing poles. It would probably make for simpler poles, better wind resistance, with a small increase in weight.

[@durstongear]

We had full X poles in early prototypes, but it is stronger/lighter to combine them into a single arch across the top. Unlike quite a few other tents, we use larger tubing across the top so it is not a weakpoint. It gives the strength of dual arches, but slightly lighter to use a single larger tube and with advantages like better vent positions and the ability to use a hub to connect the cross bar instead of a separate piece.

[@SchmakerSchmoo]

The "X" crossing of the poles would mean more exposed vestibules, smaller doorways, no ability to add trekking pole supports, and smaller diameter carbon in the middle. I also don't see how it would be any lighter or more stormworthy - especially considering it cannot be augmented with the trekking poles. It would be simpler though. You can see tarptent's dome tent with the "x" layout and the doorway is almost comically small - and that is on a 2 man tent.

[@JB-wm4fk]

Steve going for the views…. No way this video should have been posted. If I was Dan or anyone else in the industry - no way I’m sending pre production product let alone the only one your way. No doubt if you’ve been following Durston, they will take care of any actual field issues. Can’t wait until mine arrives!

[@SpaceAstriod]

I disagree Steve's videos appear to be pretty unbiased. Yes the timing was considered but most reviews release close to launch of a product anyway. "Bad" publicity is still good publicity. He seemed pretty transparent in the video. Being this is also the first prototype of this design, its helpful to educate all of possible outcomes. Dan probably knows Steve does "unscientific" test but they can be helpful in real world scenarios.

[@Adventures_with_Sog]

Of course you'd say that, you've ordered one so obviously don't want to believe it could possibly fail as was shown.

[@SpaceAstriod]

@@Adventures_with_Sog I dont have the money for one. But it is a cool tent. If it had aluminum poles, it might make it a little more sturdy.

[@Adventures_with_Sog]

@@SpaceAstriod I was replying to someone else fella, they seem to have deleted their comment.

[@SpaceAstriod]

I thought my comment got deleted lol. That makes sense though

[@MattVHulst]

How long do I have to wait for a review video of that neoloft pad?

[@simbad3311]

Seems u dont havu much experience in camping/backpacking if u think thats only free-standing tent on the market mate. Free-standing tents are on the market for years if not for decades. LoL

[@scotbotvideos]

Did Stockton Rush manufacture those poles?

[@Befread]

Couldn't you use duck tape to hold the splice in place?

[@arthurvino]

Is that a thermarest neoloft pad you testing also?

[@SpaceAstriod]

I still want one

[@Wendy-cf5tv]

Appreciate that it’s freestanding but weighs just a few ounces less than my 2 person…. Not sold

[@jjmcwill2007]

Am I to assume your 2-person tent is a trekking pole tent and/or made of DCF material?

[@kscott5285]

Yeah, ok. Take a PROTOTYPE, break it by doing something dumb then put this out the day after launch just to get the first X-Dome video out there. What an a**hole move. “Don’t recommend channel” = clicked.

[@mathiaspetersen4669]

Leech video.

[@wernerruul3027]

Will there be an X-Dome Pro version?

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

I hope so

[@wolfeadventures]

What’s the max height a person could be for this tent?

[@BigDawgCAM]

It's 90" long so probably 6'6"/2m?

[@HunterJE]

From the FAQ on the preorder listing: If you sleep "straight" (along the backwall) in the X-Dome 1+ then the length is 85" and with the steep end walls that is almost all quite useable, so the length is about average for a tent and should work to about 6'2". However, the unique trapezoid shape of the floor allows you to sleep on a diagonal (like our X-Mid series) which adds 5" of length so it is excellent for taller hikers with about 90" of length. We recommend the tent up to 6'6" when sleeping on this diagonal but the actual max height can be more or less depending on individual factors like sleeping bag size, how straight you sleep, and how much room you expect.

[@wolfeadventures]

@@HunterJEthanks.

[@boyzinthewood1]

The Mil-tec recon is another completely free standing tent and only around £90 it's brilliant.

[@stigcc]

I would like to see a freestanding "pop up" style. The poles could be already attached to the tent, just some smart contraption to stiffen them

[@OmniTierra]

I have just retired my Durston X-mid pro 2 after a disappointing amount of use. I really wanted to support a Canadian company. I could detail all the problems here. There were several. Compared to the previous dyneema tent that I used made by Z-Pak t his one has not been anywhere near as durable. Compare five years of very hard constant use against less than one. 5:1 🤔 It’s great to see you all support Durston as they continue to grow however, I can’t afford to do that as I am on a dogpacking world tour. Best of luck to Durston as they grow 🤘

[@sirius4k]

I ordered a Pro 2 Dyneema variant yesterday 🙈

[@durstongear]

I'm not sure what issues you had but if you get in touch we are happy to help. Mostly the tent uses the same materials as your previous Zpacks tent. We use the same DCF and zippers as they do. There were a few weaker spots in the first run (e.g. pole tip connections) that we have since improved and can easily retrofit that construction on your tent if it has been an issue. Mostly the Pro tents have been working well though. So I'm sorry you had issues and we are happy to help with those.

[@durstongear]

@@sirius4k The X-Mid Pro 2 is very refined at this point. Any sort of issues customers have reported we have improved, so it has always been working well for us and is very refined at this point.

[@Plummchild]

btw that trekking pole support thing ti does is from the tarpTent Rainbow

[@tyyao2000]

slingfin is stronger and has years of reliability in the field

[@smellybearc7411]

And heavier probably

[@Illdoitnextweek]

And not long enough

[@alexanderross9645]

first view :0

[@karolzimny5542]

255th view

[@andreasweber7828]

Are you even qualified to test any tents🤣? I mean, you’re known to struggle with the „wrong side door“ on the Gossamer Gear’s The Two tent. It really was the back door on that very tent, while the other side remains on the correct side in perspective to its entry point of the fly sheet. No front👀 Btw, not convinced that the magnetic tie outs permanently withstand such gale force winds ( from outside or from the inside of the tent 😅)

[@imL1u]

second view

[@BackpackingUK]

I’ve seen Dan’s video (and website) that keeps referring to it as ‘Stormworthy’ and even a ‘4 season tent’ at one point. It’s a joke. I really like the tent, and can’t wait to try one out, but it’s a summer tent. There’s nothing wrong with that, there’s just no need to massively exaggerate its capabilities.

[@adamsawyer1689]

I agree with you 100% Andy. I wouldn’t fancy being high on a hill in bad weather with those thin poles and lack of guy out lines. I’m convinced the walls of the tent would be bending in on me - and that’s if it stayed upright and in one piece. I have an X-Mid 1 solid which is great for most UK camps, but there are times when I’d definitely use a stronger and warmer shelter. The X-Dome wouldn’t tick that box for me.

[@NNICKKK]

Hold on a minute, didn't you cause a furore amongst some delicate flowers claiming the Vern 1 was a Hilleberg killer?! Or am I misremembering that whole pissing contest from a few months back... 🤔😂 I seem to recall much was made of 'exaggerating' a tent's capabilities when pitched on a playing field..

[@PaulandaPack]

How can you say that it's massively exaggerated when you haven't used one? Bit unfair don't you think?

[@craigelliott4338]

Without testing it in a storm, who's ever gonna know its capabilities, and I'm sure a solid inner would be enough to see you through. I guess we'll see in a few weeks time when you all start testing it.

[@PaulandaPack]

​@adamsawyer1689 Lack of guy out lines? From reading the comments on the original post, there's at least six of them available.

[@johnmccarron]

More shyte !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Buy a cheaper tent!!!