I Build A High-End Gaming PC From 2005 To Play My Favourite Old Game

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

*Insert Dawid Grunting sound here* Damn I forgot about what a nightmare 64-bit Windows XP is. I used it because it was the only working ISO I could find online when I made my XP install disk a year or so ago. The process involved so much suffering that I just used the same one again for this video. Ill definitely procure a 32-bit install disk for a future video to aviod this suffering. Thanks for the suggestions.

[@hi-friaudioman]

Why not just use a VM?

[@no1DdC]

@@hi-friaudioman Because this is a hardware channel.

[@AaronTheGeek]

32 bit is the way! 64bit was stupid buggy and was never great for gaming back then because of instability.

[@DQSpider]

I saw WinXP64 and was like TURN LEFT DAWID!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO

[@fujinmage8201]

next video idea: use ai to simulate old games like black and white on new hardware and better graphics

[@exxor9108]

I can tell you immediately why you had such trouble with drivers. You installed the 64-bit version of Windows XP. That version had relatively lackluster driver support. Would be a good idea to install the 32-bit version of Windows XP the next time around.

[@dimancor2925]

Yes, 64-bit XP is a unicorn. Do not install it, guys.

[@dabigbadwolf5081]

Vista 64bit Was the first usable 64bit OS

[@dimancor2925]

@dabigbadwolf5081 I had 32bit vista on laptop )

[@MediocreTCG]

​@@dimancor2925 Same.

[@folcotook3049]

@@dabigbadwolf5081 Yep, that's why I went to Vista over XP - for 64-bit support.

[@Jordy268]

Man, the amount of trouble and hours installing drivers back in the day is something i really dont miss.

[@linusatari5559]

Thanks!

[@NumptyMcNumptyface]

Akshually, that isn't a joystick connector, it's a serial port. By that time however the need for that particular standard was waning as people moved to always on internet connections and PS/2 or USB for mice. And I recommend using the 32 bit version of Windows XP. It's 64 bit counterpart was well known for being incredibly fiddly and cumbersome when it came to driver support. There's a reasonable chance you'd get the system working with the original graphics card and onboard audio when using the 32 bit version.

[@MadAlPlays]

The A8N32 did come with a controller port back plate with 2 USB ports (I've got the A8N-E and it has the same), controller port is the nice mustard yellow thing you can see on the left when the box is opened

[@grantsutherland203]

Akshually, it's a DE-9 connector. Commonly misidentified as a DB-9 connector, "Serial Port" or "COM Port".

[@MadAlPlays]

@@grantsutherland203 Yes and the controller port is a DA-15... (and the ASUS manual calls the backplate with the DE-9 a " Serial port module")

[@rollingtroll]

This. I was sure someone was ahead of me. Gameport had more pins :)

[@KYSMO]

True

[@derekbrown5420]

In 2005, I bought my first custom PC from one of those old school PC shops. I remember bringing it home and the thing wouldn't work. After a couple weeks bringing it back for troubleshooting where it worked fine in their lab every time, it turned out that the problem was I using a USB mouse and keyboard and the motherboard refused to boot without something plugged into the PS/2 ports. All this to say that I'm not surprised a period accurate 2005 PC build was such a headache. I still have all of those parts, too. I don't know if they work, but I used the giant metal case for my current PC and I love it.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

"Legal shiv battle" sounds so much more interesting than "legal dispute." Also, that "it would be easier to find some approval from your parents" caught me while I was drinking soda, and I just barely stopped my laugh enough that it didn't go up my nose.

[@KwikFab]

Oh man, it's been a long time since I've played B&W. I've still got my 2008 PC build I put together for Crysis that was high-end back in the day. May just have to buy this game again. Thanks for unlocking memories!

[@DavidWasTakn]

Imagine a modern B&W game with todays technology. Man the potential is insane :(

[@enrique5167]

The hard drive bays are in front of the fan on purpose. Don't forget that mechanical drives can get pretty hot, and back in the day it was pretty common to need 2/3/4 drives to get big enough storage. Put 4 drives there and suddenly the fan is mandatory to prevent the hard drives cooking themselves.

[@phaztheaussiebastard]

one of mine ran so hot it warped the metal shield on the bottom and desoldered its power connector

[@colestowing8695]

i was going to comment this. I had hard drives overheat and had to add fans for them. we take so much stuff for granted now

[@RocotacoPerposterown]

Amazing to see how far we have come since then. I remember needing to put in a new HDD because our old 10GB one had filled up, so we got a new MASSIVE 40GB drive. Now, I don't even have any mechanical drives and have 8TB of NVME storage just on the motherboard.

[@VoldoronGaming]

It is exactly how I have my modern system which is an Phanteks Enthoo pro case with 2 140mm front case fans intaking air and blowing it across my hard drives.

[@johnroberts2905]

@3:25 That's a serial port. Gameports had 15 pins...

[@no1DdC]

Anyone who remembers these is officially old now.

[@brucethen]

Lol you beat me to it.

[@TryboBike]

The driver issue was probably because of 64 bit XP - which was pretty poorly supported.

[@volvo09]

@@TryboBike yeah, I never used XP64, only thing I heard about it was tons of driver issues. Only reason you'd use it was if you needed more than 4GB of ram, which was a rarity in the era.

[@bean420man]

Yeah, I was wondering why he went with 64 bit. It was only needed for more than 4GB RAM and only the gods had more than that back then.

[@johnathanmcdoe]

Knew he'd suffer the moment I saw the 64 bit logo. Breaks the whole build over the knee and is likely the culprit for the abysmal performance too.

[@bco1981]

Interesting, i heard the same back in the day, XP-64 was a pile of useless bits. So, some months ago, i built a XP-64 system, it has been easy and no fuzz. and haven't had a BSOD yet, running on a i7-4770k, 32gb ram GTX 960. running rock solid, Virtualbox 5.2.44 runs debian 12-64bit and windows 10 1909 perfectly fine. ofcourse my iso was a SP2 with basically all updates available. i do not see the issue with XP-64 as everyone at the time was screaming about. And i, at the time avoided it like the plauge. one challenge with XP-64 i have, most old game CD/DVD installers do not want to run for some reason. So i install games in a xp-32 VM and copy the game and regedit stuff over to the host XP-64, and the game 99% of the time, just works.

[@thealien_ali3382]

​@@bean420manI remember on my xp machine I had 2gb ram and felt like I was awesome haha, now am on 64gb

[@Mikehud1984]

I had that exact same motherboard! I don’t recall the other specs I had though. Thanks for the blast to the past.

[@thomascrum185]

My steam account was made on September 15th 2003 and I had so many PC's that I built I cannot remember. I was even doing case mods back then where I cut out designs on the side of my case then I would put lights inside. I know I have pictures of it somewhere!

[@AzumiRM]

I was using winmx at that time, for my games. Winmx is where I got xp from on the day it came out

[@Lumilicious]

21:07 "i don't remember it running like this" because your period correct PC doesn't have a CRT hooked up to it. Low framerates look/feel better on a CRT, but performance was generally "bad" back in the day. I remember having 40-50fps with dips into the high 30s at 1024x768 on cs_italy in CSS when HL2 game came out. That was with a Pentium 4 3.6GHz and a Geforce 6800 (non-GT). That was the time where you really stopped using any background programs and "optimize windows" to squeeze out a couple extra fps and yeah, upgrading the CPU a couple years later (C2D e7400) fixed everything for me.

[@toufusoup]

Lmao the second I heard this sentence at 17:44 I opened up the comments and the top 3 immediately confirmed Dawid’s predictions

[@OvermannOnline]

Not surprising really. Snappy Driver Installer Origin, which he is using at that timestamp, doesn't seem to have the driver packs downloaded and he isn't connected to the internet so it was never going work.

[@someguy3186]

This is also how I got into retro PCs, though in my case it was to play AVP2, which also isn't available for purchase and doesn't play well with modern systems. I started with a Windows XP build, and now I have several retro builds that go all the way back to DOS. For an optimal XP experience, you want a newer system like a Core 2 Duo or even a Sandy/Ivy Bridge system. You don't really lose any compatibility, and you get far better performance for a MUCH cheaper price. As you found out yourself, most of the period correct stuff goes for an arm and a leg because of collectors. Meanwhile, you can find Core 2 Duo systems in the dumpster. Match it with an appropriate gpu from the same time period (most cards from about 2008 to 2012 can be had for super cheap), you can play games like Black and White 2 on modern resolutions and frame rates.

[@pluffcrock3438]

that 100% cpu and 0% gpu smells like software rendering

[@no1DdC]

Probably because the card he's using is not a gaming card.

[@jamesbyrd3740]

@@no1DdC probably because the drivers are trash

[@no1DdC]

@@jamesbyrd3740 They aren't trash, they just aren't optimized for gaming, but instead accuracy in CAD and offline rendering workloads. Different priorities. There are ways of turning such a card into a gaming card, but it usually involves at the very least modified drivers or at the other end of the spectrum flashing the BIOS into that of the equivalent non-gaming GPU.

[@jamesbyrd3740]

@@no1DdC Sure, unoptimized, but it should do something? if I am not mistaken, it always showed 0%gpu utilization. So either it didn't do anything or the overlay was wrong.

[@PilotPlangy]

GPU was at 66 degrees so dont think it was totally asleep

[@pop2522]

This was the perfect project and video for you to do before the holidays. Happy for you!

[@SWISS-1337]

I had that case! This is such a throwback. Black and White 1 & 2, red Alert 2, Yuris revenge, etc. What a time to be young.

[@CougarCat21]

What about C&C Generals and Zero Hour? My favs of all time!

[@dodolurker]

I had severe memberberries about that case as well! I still have it stashed away somewhere. It's a black version, but otherwise identical to the one in the video.

[@drewnewby]

@dodolurker Keep it or sell it to me. Entirely aluminum cases are unicorns at this point. I have a Coffee Lake build in the silver version.

[@slipknottin]

I had the black version of that case. I think it had blue lighting on it. I kind of miss it ha

[@jayb2705]

Playing Red Alert 2 on networked PCs against other people was an amazing experience

[@scottdecker8612]

I gotta say, the most recent couple of vids for old school hardware are pretty great. Takes me way back! 🙌

[@TheGoatBeats]

I still have the original copy of Black & White. Solid motherboard bro

[@alexsky88749]

Can you sell it to me?

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

asus board, pure trash

[@V1VISECT6]

​@@GrumpyWolfTechYou tell them little dude. How was Kindergarten today?;

[@lucasrem]

I stil own the intel version, it was my first Ai board ! SLi, Windows Xp x64, wow ! I own Black & White on EA CD-Rom, great game it was, Ai too !

[@Teddysaw1988]

massive nostalgia hit from seeing that x1900, dunno what build i had done that in spent 10 min thinking about it, but honestly took me back to a more carefree time in my life, cheers mate keep well👍

[@StefanMArndt]

LOL! This was the typical experience building your own PC back in the early 2000s. So much bending over backwards to get things to work and drivers to install. It took hours and hours. It was glorious. Nowadays, things just work, and well, it is more glorious.

[@C4nn15]

Yeah, seems AMD still hasn't got the drivers right :).

[@justjoe5373]

​@@C4nn15And Intel is trying to get some CIA contracts with their spontaneously combusting CPUs. Meanwhile AMD gave up on high end and nVidia gave up on putting VRAM on cards because who needs VRAM anyways?

[@Dj-Mccullough]

I've built pcs since the 90's. Windows 95 was way way way worse than xp to get drivers working. Up was rather easy to deal with.

[@r3tr0c0e3]

tf are you on about, the only hassle was to reinstall/update drivers where you need it to clean them, other than that maintaining and building a system was easier than ever, i must have build thousands of these relics back in the day when i worked at the shop, now it's timing this and rgb that and hundred bios settings to get most of your system, bloody ridiculous

[@TheMemeBull]

This video made me remember my first PC. My grandpa, who worked as a programmer, eventually passed down his old pc to me. The upgrades I did on it led to where I am today when it comes to games and building PCs.

Black & White was just incredible. Peter Molyneux was one of the greatest game designers of that era. I remember I even had a winamp plugin in which the bear creature would dance to the sound of the music playing

[@leonefurlan137]

OMG, WINAMP !!!! (I totally forgot about that,nobody uses it anymore,but 15/20 yrs ago it was the 1st thing i install to a pc)

@leonefurlan137 it is still my goto player

[@mk1s]

Always love your work Dawid, such a great character. Keep doing tech stuff!

[@robindebondt4643]

Why the hell did you install the x64 version of XP, no wonder you had driver issues

[@volvo09]

@@robindebondt4643 yeah that was a mistake. That's exactly why it was a pain in the arse... Format it and go to the 32bit (x86) version, bet the drivers will work first try.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

@@volvo09the game will probably run better too.

[@Daygunjim]

This 100%, 64bit operating systems back then were a complete nightmare for gaming and driver support. I'm surprised the game even launched!

[@Shadepariah]

XP x64 was the ME of 2006 lmao

[@powerfulshammy]

lucky he did not install the correct version of the drivers 😂 x86

[@Dan-Simms]

Wow, this brings me back, my bro and I loved the Black & White series! Edit: I wish I could remember the specs of my PC back then... a coma wrecked my memory.

[@Jareth2001]

Don't use XP 64 Bit. It's 2003 in disguise. 32 Bits is the version everyone used and the one you want. All your driver problems should be gone, too.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

Yeah, XP 32-bit is the way to go.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

You ca run it on modern systems, you just need to do the right searches.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Lackluster driver support for XP 64

[@kiki83607]

myth, probably you never used XP 64bits

[@federicocatelli8785]

@@kiki83607 True I never used XP 64 but I remember some hw components (I had on my 32 bits computers) not having specific drivers for that os.

[@stuarthughes3314]

Have to say I very much enjoyed this video from all the suffering you went through. Feels very authentic to those of us still making and repairing retro gaming PC's from this era and earlier. What you experienced is just scratching the surface of the pain. 😂😂

[@37Kilo2]

"I don't remember it running like this" That was my response to firing up my N64 and playing Perfect Dark with the increased textures/resolution. It was like 18FPS at best. Luckily you can go low res and use an upscaler.

[@no1DdC]

Textures remain the same in high resolution mode on the N64. The game just runs at 640x222 (NTSC) or 448x268 (PAL) compared to 320x222 and 320x268 in low-res mode. Games certainly ran at weird resolutions back then, although Nintendo in particular are still using non-square pixels from time to time even today. I would recommend playing the Xbox 360 remaster instead. It's 1080p/60 (4K/60 on One X and Series X), with (optionally) slightly improved textures and models. It's faithful to the original and feels absolutely brilliant to play thanks to the perfect fluidity. There is also an unofficial PC port based on a decompilation of the game, which is however not finished yet (although it's pretty functional). If you are also interested in replaying Goldeneye, play the leaked, never officially released remaster (runs perfectly in Xemu), which very similar in terms of quality.

[@jamesbyrd3740]

@@no1DdC the gpu wasn't doing anything.

[@Lucromis]

That is why I usually appreciate older games with emulation lately and the original controller if I can. Back then the resolution and framerate were not on purpose but just limitations. Things like the art style, game design etc are all artistic choices to be appreciated. 18 FPS is not really appreciated lol. Perfect dark with HD textures and bots is like 10FPS if you are lucky.

[@Adamas_83]

I had that same motherboard in my first ever home-built PC. I Paired it with 2x 6600GTs in SLI, an FX-55 with the classic Zalman CNPS 9700 cooler. I also bought the shiny OCZ 520 PSU, and a WD Raptor HDD and put it all in an Antec Sonata case. I immediately became the coolest dude in my dorm (or so I felt at the time). It played my game of choice, Lineage 2, completely maxed out like a champ, which was mind-blowing at the time to me. Less than a year later Core2 Duo released and made my Team Green monster kind of obsolete overnight.... but man what an awesome PC, and one I still remember fondly after all these years. It was such an awesome time period to be into PC building/gaming and all my favorite games are still from that era.

[@Alvin853]

I have almost the same hardware as my XP retro system... but I put it in a modern Fractal Design Pop Air case, RGB case fans, same Wraith Prism CPU cooler and sleeved cable extensions, so it looks like a fancy new PC from the outside but then you realize all the internals are from 2005... Athlon 64 X2 4400+ on a DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR, 2GB of DDR-400 and a 7800 GTX I refurbished myself (had a failed VRM MOSFET). It's a lot of fun to keep this old hardware alive and in a state like it would have been 20 years ago.

[@drewnewby]

The Pop Air is perfect for restomods, I usually get the Fractal Meshify series cheaper, but the CD / DVD drive support of the Pop is worth the extra.

[@foxpopuli6982]

B&W is one of the very few games I would build a retro PC for. I absolutely loved it!The wolf creature (not a starter creature) would call your followers around him, and then start breakdancing, kicking them across the map. It was great!

[@samcadwallader2899]

This is why I keep all my old hardware and can put together an age appropriate PC going back to 1992 if required. The only issue I have is trying to game on an S3 Virge as it works just as well today as it did back then :D

[@TommyCrosby]

OMG, I remember having a ThermalTake Tsunami Dream in my Athlon 64 days. I had a DFI LanParty motherboard and UV cold cathode lights. 2005 was a great year.

[@AnnaDoes]

The drama!!! His hoarding saved the day so many times. 😂😂

[@profosist]

see its not a problem *smiles awkwardly*

[@AnnaDoes]

@@profosist 🤣😅 this video has definitely reinforced his hoarding habits.

[@profosist]

@@AnnaDoes now just gotta sort things so you can actually find them when needed :P Apparently the container store makes some boxes that perfectly fit the kallax shelves.

[@jameslake7775]

@@AnnaDoes As a fellow tech hoarder, I both love it and hate it when I have just the part I need for exactly that reason. I'm not gonna get any better if it actually *works*.

[@MrSpiderpig1979]

I distinctly remember building a similar system just to play Overlord, I ran it on an Nvidia 5700, a P4 cpu and 256mb of ram. seeing this has made wanna go back and play it again. Thank you Dawid

[@tmaris]

Never played Black and White but my favorite game of all time is also from Peter Molyneux. Dungeon Keeper! Which it still has an active community behind it

[@ElDavo9000]

KeeperFX changed my life

[@rmcdudmk212]

I liked both games, but I definitely put more hours into Dungeon Keeper. 👍

[@Tabazan]

DK2 was my favourite, I spent so many hours playing that!

[@BiasWordSmith]

Mine was Myth the fallen lords. Then Eidos release Myth 2 shorthly after as games didn't take a decade to make. Real time tactic with disructable/deformable land. Perfection!

[@joshuastedford1670]

I became a PC enthusiast in the 2020's, so I love getting insight into how the hardware space used to be. Great video! In 2005, I was almost certainly playing Knights Of The Old Republic 2, or Need For Speed Underground 2 on Xbox (likely followed by Pimp My Ride 📺)

[@KnightOfKnights]

I have never seen anyone use Windows XP 64bit for gaming. You should have used the 32bit version, that would probably have fixed a lot of driver struggles...

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Yeah it was the only working ISO for XP I could find on the internet a year or so ago. I'll buy a 32-bit disk off eBay.

[@MyFighter24]

please make another video to see if the game runs better now. It may be that you finally get the performance you were hoping for. I would be very interested.

[@icoborg]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff come onn! you need an iso?

[@jamesbyrd3740]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff i bet my friend has a bunch of pirated versions on disc.

[@trev8591]

Wow, that brings back some memories! I loved that game! Moved onto Tropico when that came out.

[@Mother_Mercury]

In 2005 i had saved enough money as a 13 year old to build my first pc. The specs: Athlon 64 4000+, 2gb ddr1 ram, Geforce 6600GT 256mb gpu, 74gb WD raptor hdd, ASUS m-atx motherboard. I still use this pc for retro gaming, the only thing i had to replace (4 times already) is the psu.

[@volvo09]

Wow, that's bad luck with the PSU! My 2005 era PSU finally died 2 years ago, and it was the cheap no name one that came included with the case 😂

[@Mother_Mercury]

@@volvo09 Until a few years ago I always used the PSUs that came with the case (Aopen PSUs) to keep the PC as original as possible. You can hardly find these anymore, so for 6 years now there has been a Corsair PSU in it that continues to work fine. I am already happy that the HDD still works and the SMART is still OK.

[@volvo09]

@@Mother_Mercury I wanted one of those raptor drives back then, but I couldn't afford it. Glad to hear you are still using it. Is the CPU at stock clocks?

[@outtheredude]

Currently using a Seasonic SS-600ET with my mid-2000s Athlon 64 X2 4800+ machine. Same GPU though (an XFX variant).

[@Mother_Mercury]

@@volvo09 I have never overclocked the CPU. I really don't dare to do that now because I don't know how stable the motherboard is. The Athlon 64 4000+ can hardly be overclocked if I understand correctly because it is already on the edge of what the chip can handle. The Raptor has never been a good decision to buy. the hard drive does spin at 10,000 rpm, but it is not really much faster than a 'normal hard drive' and makes a lot of noise. Only the access time is a tiny bit better. I had a 250gb 7200rpm hard drive in this pc for a while, but I didn't notice any difference in loading games.

[@philiphansen1103]

This made me smile brought back a lot of memories. These were the years I built my first pc.

[@Corax_X]

OMG, I used to have this (almost) exact same system! I built in that Thermaltake Tsunami Dream for over a decade! I only got rid of it when I built an i7-8700K system. LOVED that case! I even found my old ebay listings from 2009: I sold my FX-55 with cooler for $57, ASUS A8N32-SLI went for $81, 1GB kit of XMS went for $45. I had the 256mb Dell GPU but in SLI and ended up giving those away to a friend. My favorite part, hands down, was the LEDs on the RAM. Seeing activity live was so cool to show off at LANs lol SUCH a nostalgia trip!!!

[@drewnewby]

I built many for customers in this case. I still have a Coffee Lake build in one.

[@ProtoMario]

No mounting bracket, no problem, turn pc on its side and don't move it lol. It's not ideal but it does work 😂

[@leonefurlan137]

Also tie-wraps/cable-ties, half of all my beginner/Frankenstein style gaming pc's had coolers installed with them. If done properly they can really give a strong contact of cooler+mobo...

[@TaylorBrauer]

hahaha omg your relief at 19:26 is so real. Very nice work Dawid and those parts def came in clutch. Congrats on another amazing video man!

[@boburanus69]

Reminds me of the day I decided to repaste my rtx 3060 and the cable connector that powers the fans... broke off at the flimsy plug. Spent a couple hours trying to fix the connection without any good micro tools, finally got it seated without issue, now I know never to unplug those connectors when I take apart that card. In 2005 I had a sony Vaio desktop with an MX420 in it... Played OG CoD and Day of Defeat. Great times.

[@poeticsilence047]

The sound all of us make when everything was for not.

[@TaylorBrauer]

@ that sounds like a nightmare. Glad to hear you were able to recover it.

[@scottmccarthy1274]

I loved Black and White - it was such an amazing jump forward for AI! Thanks for another great video.

[@burrfoottopknot]

Black and White has one of the best game intros for a game, great developer team in its day Lionhead studios

[@sinwashereable]

oh my god, thank you so much for letting us know there will be a micro-center coming to Santa Clara. The Bay Area of California has been lacking a proper electronics/computer parts store for god knows how long since Fry's Electronics went out of business.

[@Imjeezus]

I just took an older dell Optiplex office PC and an SSD and loaded Windows XP onto that. I believe XP drivers work on up to 4th gen Intel chips, getting the drivers is the hardest part but I figured it out at one point. Threw in a GT730 which is weak by today’s standards but for a windows XP computer, it’s god tier. All in, it cost me like $60. Runs everything AMAZINGLY. I love playing my old games like Mechwarrior 3 from time to time.

[@no1DdC]

Meanwhile, I just head over to the PCGamingWiki to find solutions for older games and run them on my current system. If push comes to shove, I'll fire up a VM or PCEm.

[@johncollins5552]

Was that 32 bit xp?

[@Imjeezus]

@@no1DdC I’ve tried that, way more of a headache and more troubleshooting to get things working with a chance of never getting it working. My XP computer just works. If I have to spend 5+ minutes trying to get the game working, I’ll just lose motivation to play it at all lol Plus, just something nostalgic about slapping the disk in the drive bay, ya know?

[@no1DdC]

@@Imjeezus Which XP computer just works. Mine certainly didn't back in the day. It was more stable than ME, but that was about it. As for slapping the disc into the drive - I very much disliked this back then and habitually created and mounted images of most CDs and DVDs I had.

[@Raintiger88]

First build video I was genuinely excited to watch.

[@cinnabarsin4288]

Small tip for Thingiverse: When it fails to make the zip it will usually let you click the individual files in the list to download them unzipped still.

[@no1DdC]

Or just use a different web browser. I'm keeping three or four different browsers around, just in case.

[@stevethepocket]

@@no1DdC I doubt any browser would be broken in a way that prevents a website's backend from working right.

[@johnodevilliers4118]

This really hit the nostalgia button. 2005-2006 was a wild time for PC building, AM2 and DDR2 was around the corner in 2005 and dual core was becoming a thing with AMD X2. We were still moving from AGP to PCI-E, so many pitfalls and incompatibilities. At least you seemed to have a SP3 Win XP, old XP SP1 you had to install SATA drivers via a stiffy before you could install Win XP. 64 bit was still a newish thing, so it wasn't well supported and really didn't matter then as you were not exactly using more than 4GB of RAM, hehe. I remember the PC I build back in 2005 had the following specs, also had this cool X-Mod case (a Chinese knock off probably), kinda looked like the Apple G5 Desktop. CPU: AMD Athlon X2 4200+ RAM: 1 GB DDR 400 GPU: NVidia 6800GTS MOBO: Some ASUS board with the 939 chipset But really can feel your pain with setting up everything when drivers just don't want to play along. Had that recently with my new 7900XT, Adrenalin just doesn't play well with my PC. When it is installed can't use Fan Control or MSI Afterburner. Eventually just did plain driver install without Adrenalin and all is well (2 weeks later of troubleshooting).

[@Powerhouse1]

Windows XP can go up to a GTX 960 for graphics. I recently played Black and White 2 on an XP machine at 1080p with a GTX 780 and an AMD FX 6350.

[@drewnewby]

You can go all the way up the 900 series, the 970 and up require a small driver edit. I use the 950 mostly, because even a quad C2D will bottleneck a 960.

[@no1DdC]

@@drewnewby Even my 2016 i5 bottlenecked a 960 at least a little bit. They do actually benefit from contemporary i7 CPUs in order to breathe freely, although at that point, you might as well go with a 10-series instead.

[@drewnewby]

@no1DdC I know, you missed the point slightly. XP only supports up to 900 series. Ivy Bridge with a 970 is a good max XP setup though.

[@r3tr0c0e3]

you don't need a bloody xp for this game, it works perfectly fine in w11 with compatibility mode and runs like 100fps in 1080p on an intel 770hd, whole period correct crap is beyond retardation, you have to pay me 200$ to even touch this relic, gotta be some kinda hipster movement involved with this that i don't understand

[@jamesbyrd3740]

@@r3tr0c0e3 lol I was wondering that...

[@andrewgeorgelang]

23 minutes of pure awesomeness

[@neongenesis2979]

Going for period correct and uses a Wraith cooler. Drop a GT 710 in there and an SSD, and use 32bit XP. Mind Blown. Good video!

[@wemartin12]

As he said the Canada Post strike has meant he hasn't received some of the period correct components he bought.

[@wild_running]

Enjoyed that one Dawid! Never heard of Black and White. But loved your journey in this vid!

[@gamerperson2007]

Oh man, what a trip. I had an Athlon 64 CPU and I was encouraged by Tiger Direct to use XP 64-bit edition, and that was the most horrid experience. Redo video with x32 edition.

[@DoomGuy9001-MK4]

This is taken me back. I had this exact case but in black. This hardware I grew up with when I first starting learning how to build a PC.

[@Moodoo20]

Pretty sure I played with 10FPS and was like "WOW SUCH GREAT GAMEPLAY"

[@DavidWasTakn]

I did the same, also with command and conquer back in the day. Man I miss those times so much.

[@bitemykrank1970]

You paid out an extraordinary amount of money for this system to play B&W 1 and 2. I play BOTH games on a HP SFF quad core I got free from the tip. I added a low profile HD6350 for 512MB of video and the box had 8GB RAM in it already, but as I'm using the 32bit XP I only have the 3.5GB the fat32 sytem allows. It runs both games perfectly, no stutters, no frame drops and crystal clear images. Total cost of my PC -- $3.50 for a new CR2020 for motherboard, the rest came from junk boxes in my store room. It might not be period correct, but it was ONE HELL OF A LOT cheaper than your machine for the same if not even better result.

[@an3k]

I can't remember what CPU I had but I bought Battlefield 2 and couldn't play it, because my graphics card wasn't able to do Hardware T&L, which was some fancy light and shadow stuff. Because of that I bought two 7800GTX (stock cooler ones) and LOVED playing Battlefield 2.

[@no1DdC]

How long did these beasts remain capable of playing the latest games at the settings you wanted?

[@an3k]

@@no1DdC If I remember correctly up until a GTX295.

[@no1DdC]

@@an3k Four years, give or take, is a pretty good run, especially back then. Was the SLI experience as buggy and frustrating as I've heard it to be?

[@an3k]

@@no1DdC The cards got really hot but couldn't handle the heat well enough. At that times, SLI was hell, yes. And back then it often introduced micro-stutter. Shortly before nVIDIA officially ended SLI it was at its pinnacle and delivered nearly twice the performance, given the game engine is using it correctly. See Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

[@BorisYonchev]

in 2005 I was 2 years old sadly. But I started with a ps2 and got my first pc around 2017 or 2018. My dad used to build pcs but he stopped when I was born. He always talks about some of the parts you used haha. Great video!

[@TheMacksterz]

oh boy, here to watch the funny tech man early

[@drewnewby]

No matter what, I keep a build in the silver Thermaltake Tsunami. Of the dozen here, even older builds like C2D and Athlon are in newer cases like Fractal Mesh, etc., but I have a Coffee Lake setup in this case. I will never give it up, peak aluminum, even if it requires some mods for a modern PC.

[@SciFiDude79]

One thing to remember about that era is that people didn't make as big a deal about frame rates. Most people never even looked at them. You just tried to get the game to a smooth, usable experience and went on from there. This game probably wasn't intended to run higher than 30 FPS and hardly anybody cared. 720p was also a good resolution for the time. 1080p was considered ultra tier, and 720 was one step below that.

[@labrat001]

Amazing work with the 3d printing.

[@lonvaleroso5526]

you may have forgotten to install the motherboard drivers first. install motherboard driver>install gpu driver>install audio driver (if mobo driver did not install it yet) should be the order when dealing with older OSes

[@SilvaDreams]

Well there is also the issue of the XP 64bit, notoriously bad driver support on that OS. Had he used the 32bit XP the graphics card would have functioned.

[@OvermannOnline]

Fun video. You had some problems but that is to be expected working with used older parts. I'd be interested in seeing a part 2 where you get it to work correctly.

[@WirrWicht]

Windows XP x64 Edition? Has anyone seriously used it? And a AMD X2 CPU would have been still period correct, released in may before B&W2...

[@nukers1234]

I did, only way to get more than 4gb ram on XP to work. Was a baller already back then with a Pentium D. But Darwin should have waited to 2007 and gone for a c2q6600 😅

[@Lucromis]

Yeah 2004-2005 era was a transition period but anyone still using single core CPUs was quickly screwed. Athlon 64 X2 4200+ or something would have been way better. The GPU drivers are not optimized for games, and it is a shame that ati card did not work. It probably would have with 32bit WinXP. This was PC gaming back then. One tiny mistake and lots of troubleshooting.

[@henrikbrolin5687]

i try it and get back to 32-bit after it not go fix bug and after that MS close 64-bit Xp os.. =( so sade thye close down it and dont realse fix and start build up vista crap call longhorn... =/

[@craigbomer8962]

I first got into computer gaming in 2007. I had a co-worker talk me into trying World Of Warcraft. I dove in about 6 months before the launch of Wrath Of The Lich King. I started out playing it on a cheap Acer laptop running Windows 7. I "upgraded" a few years later to a desktop I built with an AMD A10-5800K APU.

[@ChengTeoh]

I'm shocked using duct tape wasn't your "brilliant idea" ... very disappointed, lol.

[@ShadyHero]

Oh damn thats a nice ass case. My dad is still running his Thermaltake Shark from 2004(mostly because I insisted he did so) he used to have a Phenom II X4 965, 16gb of 1866mhz DDR3 and a GTX 760, now he has a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64gb of 5200mhz (i couldn't get it to post with anything more than 5200mhz, even tho it's XMP is 6600) and an RTX 4070 Super. temps are phenomenal too, it's using an icegiant prosiphon elite.

[@MarkSalterSaltyTalk]

Loads of fun ... But, you kinda shot yourself in the foot with the 64bit XP. Go with a 32bit install and that ATI will work like a champ.

[@toothy]

Videos like this are my favorite

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

The FX 4400 isn’t the Quadro equivalent of the 7800 GTX, it’s the Quadro equivalent of the 6800 gt. It’s much slower than the 7800 GTX.

[@lorduggae]

That Thermaltake Tsunami case really takes me back! My first ever custom built PC was in that case, the black version with blue LEDs

[@ProCastify]

At that time I remember it vividly, my mother surprised me for my birthday with a new gaming PC in 2011, as I was playing on an old and crappy Pentium 4 at the time. I vaguely remember the specs Motherboard: Was some kind of Asus with a black paint CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 GPU: Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ RAM: 4GB (I dont know if DDR or DDR2) PowerSupply: KissQuiet 800W (A fucking beast) Case: Some kind of Black and Grey case? Probably something not so noteworthy Accessories: DVD-RW, Floppy And I ran Windows XP SP3 (Extreme Edition) which was some kind of custom Winndows thing and then siwtched to Vista I remember till now that I could run Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 at high settings and it completely blew my mind. The little kid in me will be forever gratefull to my mom Moms are the best.

[@xgui4-studios]

seriously???? a floppy in 2011 ??? wasnt floppy a 80's tech ???????

[@Jalex0021]

@@xgui4-studios No, it was used pretty heavily throughout the 90's, with USB gradually taking its place from the late 90's onwards.

[@MR_FIAT]

@@Jalex0021 USB support was still flakey in the late 90's, i still used floppy desks allot in the early 2000's, i'd say after XP was fully adopted that USB humbdrivers truly became the norm, so probably in the latter half of the early 2000's i.e. 2004/2005ish

[@1127batkinson]

This was nostalgic for sure. Favorite game from that era for me was Giants: Citizen Kabuto. Built my first system to play it.

[@ChrisDupres]

Hey Dawid, the fans in the front of those cases weren't really for general airflow, they were to cool the hard drives in that bay. How our needs have changed, eh?

[@no1DdC]

Anyone who has ever built a NAS can tell you that a stack of hard drives will still create a lot of heat. It's just that you won't find them in most PCs anymore.

[@Paul-ib5xv]

I had that exact case, I loved the look of it.

[@TheGalifrey]

Dawid, those bays didn't block airflow, they needed airflow back then as they got damned hot!

[@Belnick6666]

Impressed he did not get the blaster worm, 30 seconds after connecting to internet :P

[@homelessEh]

3:28 thats a serial port not a game port bruv

[@homelessEh]

so many socket 939 cpus laying around..

[@homelessEh]

tmk 939 am2 am2+ am3 am3+ am4 all use the same bracket..i would not be suprised of am5 uses it too.

[@homelessEh]

if the 3d print lacks integrity. you could try the acetone vapor bath and let the plastic meld to gather a little better. increase its stregnth. and make it shiny in the process.

[@homelessEh]

feeling validated that fx7000 was absolute dog water

[@homelessEh]

pretty sure theres a bunch of dual core 939's that arent the rare and ill concieved single core fx debacles. id have Given you for no money all the 939 single and dual cores i have just literally collecting dust in a box.

[@Gurvtz]

Great video. My favorite games were probably Nox, Populous: The Beginning, BG2, Age of Empire 2 and ofcourse CS1.6 with DotA

[@danmar007]

I love the music and humour on this channel. I still have my 2007 PC.

[@RoyHess666]

surprised noone roasted him for the missing IO motherboard shield yet 😀

[@mattj1341]

Peak excitement when the 3D printed mounted bracket didn't explode right away, honestly that was gold

[@ethanpschwartz]

In 2005 I got an iMac G5 for my sophomore year of college. While I wasn't doing much gaming on that thing, it handled Photoshop and Microsoft Office like a champ. And just like your PC there, if you went through the irksome process of installing Windows, it gamed well too.

[@Renaldo2355]

Hey David, damn this brings back alot of memories form back in the day, that also said i played the game on my current pc not to long ago, I went through the trouble of making iso's of my original CD's had some issues with the resolution, found a patch and on I went!!! Have a blast on that classic and thanks for the age reminder!😂

[@UbergamR447]

oooh black and white and black and white 2 was my most favourite games too! i miss a new game like them! i still have b&w2 installed on my PC and i still manage to run it somehow, theres a "complete collection edition" out there great video! thank you :)

[@heckintech]

I deeply miss the 1995-2005 computing days. Things were so exciting back then. In this approximate era, I was rocking an AMD Athlon XP 3000+, and it absolutely SLAPPED. I still have it, the motherboard with CPU, RAM and Heatsink is framed on the wall in a nice shadowbox dealie. AARRT. I should hook it up and take it for a spin again!

[@MR_FIAT]

my family had a Athlon 64 3000+ with 1GB of ram and a Geforce 6200TC around 2005, despite the unimpressive specs we were still blown away because we were coming from a packard bell with windows 98. and this machien could actualy run the games we received around the time.

[@nico5179]

Omg I had this exact case but in black back in 2006 for my second gaming PC. The nostalgia!

[@Psaurus81]

THat brings back memories, although I did wince a bit when you said "when I was a kid".My system, in my mid 20s, was an Athlon 64 3700+ in an Epox 9npa+ SLi motherboard with 512MB of RAM and two GeForce 6800s. I later replaced the two GPUs with a single ATi Radeon 2900XT and the CPU with an Opteron 175. I agree with the rest of the comments that your driver issues are probably XP 64 related. Awesome video. Thanks for the nostalgia.

[@thefumexxl]

This is hitting me deep in the nostalgia. ALl these labels and form factors are my teenage years in full swing haha

[@markleroux6505]

Such a good case !! I bought a black version recently, came with a full P4 3.2ghz, 1gb ram, and a Gainward 6800. The whole system is mint !!

[@xthatwhiteguyx]

I missed out during that period. From 2000-2012, I only purchased HP and Gateway PC's and customized them. Never got to experience the full PC build, until 2013. This was like a glimpse into what could have been (assuming, at the time, we wouldn't have those broken hardware and driver issues lol). That said, I LOVED my HP's.

[@CleanPhilWanted]

I totally just found my old copy of black and white a couple weeks ago at my parents house! Loved that game.