I Build Lethal Tempo Attack Speed on Aatrox Because I STILL Miss Pre-rework Aatrox

[@christianautilus374]

love, respect, empathy for your classy style and devotion to the origin of form

[@blupheonix23]

Can you imagine the obscene amount of healing and damage output we could get if we had old aatrox with new lethal? Wild

[@anigodzapex9384]

Imagine Old Swain with the new Tear! Imagine Old Shen With modern Runes. Missing the old days is not Nostalgia. Its just reality, that these times were indeed better, healthier and more fun, then this Healing and Damage Overdose off 25 Minute game Shtshow we have know in our Games. To be honest, Riot Games is doing Great: Ruined King, Valorant, Team Fight Tactig, Legends of Runeterra, Arcane. BUT LEAGUE on the other Hand IS GETTING MORE AND MORE DESTROYED!

[@rayer3274]

@@anigodzapex9384 I mean I can't really say anything about old times since I started playing 2018, but I don't think those times were that more "healthy". Sure, the game wasn't the snowball fest that it is today, but it still like any competitive game had its ups and downs. The amount of broken things that popped from 2012-2016 is... a lot really. Just like what happens today. I think the major problem here is not broken things popping out every single year, because that is not the root problem, the root problem is that Riot is trying to make the game a lot faster. Although pre-season 11 may have rewarded a lot of late game champs with some of the changes like bounties, no scuttle contest, etc, its still a snowball fest that can be won just because 1 player started basically spawnkilling the enemy laner, and then using that pressure around the map. Well, thats just my opinion anyway.

[@anigodzapex9384]

@@rayer3274 When I give this Game a Score of how much Damage this Game has. Then I would give this Game a 15/10. Dying in under a Second is a norm. Tanks get shred in seconds aswell. And the offset is so much unnecessary Healing and Shielding from a million different sources with no direction or sense. It's a Balancing Disaster

[@yfamous1522]

@@anigodzapex9384 remember the old times where Leblanc could silence you and insta oneshot you with no counterplay ? Remember old ww instant, blink suppress ult ? Remember Jax Perma dodge ? Janna roaming and placing a 700 strength shield basically making them immune ? Ardent meta ? Gangplank rework ? Kalista's release ? If you think league was completely balanced back in the days, you really never played there or you are just blinded by nostalgia.

[@anigodzapex9384]

@@yfamous1522 I never said it was completely balanced. I never stated it's perfect. But Season 3 to 7 was Leagues Golden Era. And this was, is and will be a fact forever. Season 0 to 2 had no Game Direction, but after season 7, we're many different Projects from Riot startet was the decline of Direction and Logic in Balancing. The Plants or Champion Designs like Kaisa are pretty obvious Examples, Runes like Kleptomancy, absolute unnecessary mini Reworks like Sona, Janna Blitzcrank etc... I don't think it's much to debate, but people defender Hitler. There are always people Defending the Wrong.

[@ultimatemacchia]

How to play old aatrox in new league: 1 - Pick Kled 2 - Build full lifesteal 3 - ??? 4 - Profit The only difference is that instead of dying and revive yourself -you commit animal cruelty- Skaarl willingly does that for you

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

It's not the same...

[@ReNooN23]

@Keshuel Aatrox in a nutshell

[@sebastianlaplume461]

@@ReNooN23 his ult needs to cleanse or reduce anti heal like roka ult. Same with vlad.

[@Shadic-rf8dg]

@@sebastianlaplume461 i agree with the reducing grevous wounds (not too much otherwise it would turn into a void staff MR relationship). Vlad probably doesn't need it since he has ways to keep himself safe, like his pool and zhonyas. Not to mention his ult increases damage from all sources, so it is easier for the team to take em down.

[@VanderDeck3n]

I used to like playing Aatrox pre-rework, he was kinda my go to champ when playing top. I really don't like him after the rework

[@raaventhered8548]

Everyone with some mind hates this Reworked garbage version my friend. The old Aatrox was perfection he was all fine the way he was, unlike this clunky, slow, Rivenish trash that is full of annoying voice lines and tons of animation bugs.

[@hashteraksgage3281]

@@raaventhered8548 old one was another boring autoattack champ that either built damage and got oneshot or built tanky and dealt no damage. New one has been S tier most of the season and still holds his own rn

[@raaventhered8548]

@@hashteraksgage3281 And did you even played the old one or just believing all the crap that most people (Thos who never truly palyed the original one) say about the old one? Even if you went tank you dealt plenty of damage thanks to your W and items like Titanic hydra and sterak, you just had to know how to balance the build with DMG + Tankyness. And maybe the reworked Aatrox was S tier for a while yes, but atm he is far from it, not to mention his problems.

[@hashteraksgage3281]

@@raaventhered8548 i didnt play the old one yeah, but ix u want to play aa champs just play yi or jax. Also the gameplay of the old one feels clunky af to play. The model looks good tho

[@Corsharkgaming]

I really love Aatrox and as much as I hate people complaining about "muh old aatrox" at least old aatrox could kill super minions.

[@cardinull5761]

Yeah I think that riot forgot that a if a champion is op it's not its fault and they don't have to "punish" it by nerfing it to the ground. Yeah, this aatrox can 2v1 pretty easily if he's just 1 item ahead and it's not late game, but it just feels like a sad champion. His main farming tool even does reduced damage to minions like wtf

[@sebastianlaplume461]

@@cardinull5761 idk man, I get 7cspm on him, his autos are pretty chunky, and if you E in place it works as an auto reset, and farming on auto reset champs is really easy. His shove combo is pretty straightforward too, Q1 the back line hitting the whole wave, auto melee or canon, Q2 is the same and usually kills back line , auto again, then Q3 goredrinker clears anything left. I have more trouble with sylas just because his mana costs are so obscene early so you can’t really shove.

[@smugron1101]

I would not complain about the new Aatrox (which I still play btw) if they kept SOMETHING other than his looks. His personality, his playstyle, his mechanics. Nothing. We atleast had revive and self-heal but they removed the revive cause "it was too hard to balance" yet they add shit like *insert an op champ that recently got released here* and *insert op item here*. The head of the balance team is a silver player who rarely plays anything other than ARAM. Why is he the head of balance?

[@BBTheSixth]

@@smugron1101 They removed Aatrox's revive, yet just added in Ashkan who can revive his ENTIRE team after killing someone? Like ... what?

[@LeuvahkTrigger]

The thing I remember, and miss, most about OldTrox is, strangely, that he was left handed. He lost some of his uniqueness and character with that change alone.

[@An_Acog]

they changed it so he wouldnt slam the fridge door into his face when he opened it #fucklefties

[@DeletedTroll]

You serious?

[@BBTheSixth]

They changed everything of his uniqueness, he no longer is calm and tempting, but another loud, angry, ability caster, anime character.

[@averagesionenjoyer8948]

He had a cool Lorę thing with trynda and his CUT off arm. I remember hashinshin rumbling about it and that new aatrox is just OMG LOOK BIG SWORD HAHA I SCREAM FUNNY HAHA ANGRY FACE BIG SWORD IN TEO HAND ME FIGHT

[@DeletedTroll]

No, seriously, uniqueness and character on being left handed?

[@bietrosbietros6540]

Haaaa, I truly miss him. Thank you for this Cryo. As a pre-rework Aatrox main myself. Thank you for reminding me the good old days

[@davewhispers7720]

Love your content. If Riot decides to bring back old Aatrox they could use his old kit into a new darkin and yeah people will call it out however we get old Aatrox. I also joined after his rework so Idk why everyone calls him clunky since I'm used to his movements and find his Q satisfying.

[@Ketamin1234]

They can do Old Aatrox into the darkin concept Sett had

[@Richter_94]

I really miss old Aatrox, it's a shame they completely changed his gameplay with his rework. Doesn't even feel like the same champion, now he's a lot more clunky and mechanically dull.

[@LeuvahkTrigger]

They did what I've come to call the 'Riot, copy, tweak'. They take the concept and kit of another character, slap it onto the 'new' or reworked one and tweak it enough that they can claim its a new design. I can only see Rivens whole kit when I look at NewTrox.

[@kevinnguyen6076]

@@LeuvahkTrigger I've seen so many clips and comments of people talking about OldTrox and I'm sad that I never got to experience it. I've only ever played NewTrox, so I like how he feels and looks, but from the clips I see OldTrox was way more interesting

[@sebestein09]

@@LeuvahkTrigger expect aatrox doesnt have 3 dashes and 1 shield , its just a q recast he is nothing like riven

[@luicifiero]

Have you guys played Aatrox at all?

[@kevinnguyen6076]

@@luicifiero No ofc we haven't, we're just reminiscing old memories of a champ we've never played. We never stated we ever played them ever.

[@snrmngr]

Funny how he became more of a gag champion despite riot trying to make him more realistically horrendous.

[@treymtz]

I pray that one day Riot releases a champion similar to old aatrox back when he could flex top/jungle

[@smugron1101]

Who is also demonic and has a Jhin-like personality.

[@edicor1]

You have my respect for doing something I was unable to do. As an old aatrox main myself I haven't touched him after the rework

[@OhMercyMe]

its weird because i kinda like both aatrox's, but i dont think the new one is worth the old one getting thanosd

[@gigelparigoridi5323]

Holy moly. I never expected this to still work. That i respect.

[@creamInbetweens]

I miss old Aatrox too, went and had a murder spree before his rework launch #Bring_Aatrox_Old_Q_Back

[@rod4309]

Mained Sion -> Deleted Replaced Sion with Aatrox -> Deleted

[@faloughasch9239]

"Where is frozen mallet?" The same place old Aatrox went, the shadow isles. Rip old league

[@dziosdzynes7663]

Big F for my boi Aatrox. I shed a year every time the OG Aatrox is mentioned. They did him dirty turning him into Riven 2.

[@kingfarito5850]

Old Aatrox - I must bleed the hell out of you New Aatrox - Do I look like a joke to you? Me - Yes

[@danis.s2102]

Who would vote for reverting Aatrox? I do

[@bhavishmohonee]

man, i got emotional.. with that edit at the start.. * heavy breathing * 😭😭

[@snootgamenotofficial]

Hoping it comes back, one day, to save the Aatrox mains from eternal suffering. Trully lore friendly

[@ArceusShaymin]

I find your hate in Lillia hilarious, especially when she did next to nothing this game but be slightly annoying. To each their own, but I don't think Liandry's or Lillia is a problem, nor the fact that supports build AP items. I'll still maintain that new Aatrox just feels like a clunkier, less rewarding draintank Riven, and that they need to either bring old Aatrox back (Riot won't do this; they are cowards who cannot admit failure) or rework him *again* (Riot won't do this until he's been played by nobody for at least 4 more seasons, I'd wager). He just doesn't really feel... fun? Old Aatrox was jank, but at least it was "haha shwing shwing" kinda fun jank. This is just jank that was pulled in far too many directions (and then they cut off one of those limbs because they were afraid to make a real balance change).

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

He's not just haha fun shwing shwing. His fucking crit animations WHIPS the goddamn sword around. No other champ has such a funky crit animation. Not even the Sion kicks.

[@raaventhered8548]

Man this brings a tear into my eyes... I just miss my old boy with the epic and inspiring voice lines and the unique kit. Its just so sad that Riot can't see how much people miss the original Aatrox and just hating Riot Jag's Rivenish style clunky garbage version.

[@smugron1101]

Old Aatrox was similar to Jhin. Jhin saw killing as art and Aatrox saw war as art. The new Aatrox is just a depressed serial killer.

[@raaventhered8548]

@@smugron1101 Exactly Smugron. And that is why I hate the Reworked one. Its just so generic, uninteresting, annoying and simply: garbage. but the main problem is that too man players are "worshipping" the Reworked one while they know NOTHING about the old and true Aatrox.

[@MatsYoo]

It wasnt a rework, it was a replacement.

[@giovanni5954]

I have a rework idea to bring old aatrox back Imagine a rework only in his ult, his ult would give range, enough range to the edge of your Q 1, the ult would also increase the range of your E so you could Q3 E to simulate old aatrox Q, to balance the ult would lower the damage of your Q1 and Q2 but also would give atk speed and base damage also the ult could convert your E "omnivamp" to lifesteal Yeah with that u would have 2 aatrox in 1

[@geke7381]

God just that sound from his old W in the intro clip made me so sad. I miss my old onetrick and true favorite champion. All the champs I like and play now are just cheap replacements.

[@frap1136]

Hey dude, just a tip regarding the runes, since you aren't taking Taste of blood and ravenous hunter you can take bloodline since the rune benefits auto attackers the most :)

[@CryoBeat]

I ooga booga my runes a lot tbf, I'll remember this the next time I miss the big boi Aatrox for sure!

[@Mofuwu]

"Surpass the frailty of your rework" - New Aatrox building full lifesteal + letal tempo

[@vihuhol]

remembered watching your videos with off-meta builds ap/as Elise Top ;>

[@lord_mitenz7734]

Love watchin ya play Aatrox, good times :3

[@shamikosan]

i love playing oldtrox before and mained him and played him mostly in jungle seeing this takes me back i still main him now but he got shitted on by top laners so unfun to play him anymore

[@smugron1101]

Yup. Top lane sucks for him cause he falls off extremely fast and anything he builds (runes, items) don't even synergise with him. He just builds whatever is the most useable.

[@glitchas4593]

YESSS THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!

[@KING-lw8nv]

I really miss aatrox switch blade mode skills it was really cool back then you simultaneously switch between mode per auto attack

[@momongasmith5986]

I don’t think the rework is that bad, i actually like to play him

[@liuqmno3421]

It's just that it's a different champ now. It's a shame for old aatrox mains who don't like the new playstyle

[@DarthDookieMan]

@@liuqmno3421 This. There's a difference in saying that a newer rendition of a champion is (subjectively) better than the older one, and saying that it was wrong that the two are completely different in all but name.

[@Asmodeus.q]

its not abou the rework being good, its about changing the champ to a riven2.0

[@yoo5645]

9:12 aatrox main's inner demon

[@Vashe_Nf]

Imma start crying about going back to old aatrox even pre 4 hit godmode to his release version my goddd

[@E17cho]

2:19 That Malphite flash causes me serious brain damage

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

wow, that's super rakan top of you

[@azkaghafara5712]

19:23 I can relate to the "Where is frozen mallet"

[@norbertwiniarski2115]

I miss old Aatrox he was elegant, ancient and seemed so powerful, this ones seems so like some foolish bratty brute without any elegance nor power just some angry teenager

[@mathislefrancois8881]

As an pre-rework Aatrox main, i'm hurt, that's all i have to say, old Aatrox was way more "violent" than the actual one, and that was the point of the rework, sad

[@krystianlancert6105]

I know the feeling. I wanted him to be my first 7. But then ,,the fire nation attacked" :p

[@colonelsuperior3805]

Old aatrox was and still is my #1 favorite champ. Not a day goes by that I don’t miss him

[@shawnpallaya]

i do miss old aatrox, i used to build just 2 damage items, bork and rageblade, then full tank and laugh as they tried to actually hurt me, fun times

[@ultro8288]

You have no idea how ridiculous the support meta really is right now. I play full AD/Lethality and sometimes even Crit Sion support and come out on top. And if the matchup is bad for Sion I just go One-Shot Crit Panth with BoRK. You can literally pick anything you want in support right now as long as you have just a single ability with CC, it's ridiculous.

[@detheccus1132]

In other news water is wet? From my experience in botlane it's been like that for almost two years. It didn't work as often as after the item rework, but still.

[@FabiTheSnake]

I can feel your pain bro.

[@Shyguyforest]

I miss the days of building liandries and ludens ah the good ol days before mythics

[@andresvillanueva5131]

A single tear rolled

[@IgnisPluvius]

Really miss old aatrox was a nice, fun(specially ap) and original char, now its just what riven and swain son would look like.

[@steemedpasta835]

should do crit aatrox with navori quick blades for infinite dashes.

[@emerald_lord2267]

"I am not your enemy! I am THE ENEMY!"

[@roogle3878]

Can we bring back old Aatrox

[@yes6707]

certified "right thru the counter strike moment"

[@the_soggster3464]

Riot: What do people like the most in this game? John: Uh flashy high skill champs! Steve: Anime girls! Greg: Incredibly annoying fast champions you can't do anything about with half the cast! Riot: Greg... YOUR A GENEIS. I'D FUCK A DEER! Lets just toss in those other ideas too while were at it.

[@Midnightninja334]

Can you please play some more aatrox? Its so satisfying to watch

[@anchoredsea]

Im doing this too ,reminds me of the gutling gun auto attacks and Usain bolt health from life steal

[@seccsycabbage2979]

Man I miss old Aatrox so much :'( he was the funniest thing in the games

[@BringAatroxBack]

We need to bring him back. #BringAatroxBack

[@luxxious4134]

Wow that Gwen player has the new skin and border, they must be a really really good player

[@Aambetrox]

It just haunts me every day

[@cirrus5791]

i remeber going this around the time where aatrix got reworked and i was vs a garen it was fun #oldtrox = bestrox

[@KhârnTheAngry]

Finally someone talking about how stupidly absurd Lyandri's is

[@phcoffee312]

I really like how Aatrox is suposed to be that healing monster and 50 % of the champs in leauge do a better job at this. Yee Aatrox kinda sucks nowdays

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

And when he DOES heal, the litttle kiddies bark about how Aatrox is broken and his healing is "too much" while simultaneously healing back to full with Shieldbow + BT Graves.

[@hede638]

it's been years since his death , we should get over it 😞

[@mihkelpihlak4256]

I feel bad for myself for missing old aatrox gameplay

[@kawaka4432]

I tested this days, still strong against certains matchups

[@OuhHey]

Playing atck - speed vs malphite sound like a pain

[@YourLocalPlagueDoctor]

When I build on-hit aatrox, I max E for the dash and omnivamp, and attackspeed to reduce the cd of passive faster

[@Zenith07]

1:28 I immediately know Malphite is on the Bush because Aatrox talked shit to him Damn thats broken, kind of like a Tryndamere W ability.😂

[@CHNO-kl9bn]

I know its supposed to be an old aatrox build but aatrox jg with dusk essence collector and bt aint no joke

[@grim7195]

yo that seraphine ult at the beginning tho :)

[@zukiginagato2215]

we all miss pre-rework Aatrox...

[@BunnyCoffeeAddict]

Does life steal apply twice with ginsoo??

[@lolzorze]

i think you're reading it wrong, it's not that it applies on hit effects twice but it's a second hit that applies at 100% of current effectiveness.

[@BunnyCoffeeAddict]

@@lolzorze You mean third hit, right?

[@phillippevaldivia4628]

No sabia que ayrox decia la frace "im a not the king im a not a god im"

[@grandpapancake9462]

Just the intro not only disgusted me, but hooked me into watching the rest of this video

[@stianvegard123]

I miss my frozen mallet and atmas impaler😭😭😭

[@guywithastrawhat3270]

As a former akali main, I feel your pain guys. I even started a petition to revert her. I got 38 Signatures lmao

[@Yummymarshy]

Lilia is 3rd on the list of characters I wish never existed.

[@lennonchahivec-schneider6722]

Bababooey

[@anthonykomski2857]

Okay, how do you do that to your rune page? I must know Edit: I figured it out. I'm just dumb and blind :(

[@lolzorze]

Aatrox E does say omni-vamp but it's not. He heals based on the damage he deals to champions post-mitigation.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

It's not omnivamp though. It's physical vamp.

[@s-gvstvs235]

I try aatrox attack speed in blind pick, after champion election my opponent is teemo

[@senjubunny]

frailty of form: **SURPASSED**

[@filippomilan2656]

Does Warwick classify as a drain tank?

[@illidan2425]

i think next season they need to bring oldtrox back, keep his current model but bring back his old playstyle, he is the only champ in the game who doesn't resemble the uniqueness of aatrox as it once did

[@Bozothcow]

double faeri charm be like

[@volterite9605]

Is there a reason you built on hit instead of crit?

[@limeylimelime]

hear me out. predator skarner, 1st item chemtank, 2nd essence reaver OR Deadman plate, then bloodthirster into ravenous hydra. GIGA SPEED

[@luckypeanut9943]

God, old aatrox would be wrecking shit with the new items

[@josueabrego6176]

League is a beautifull game when no body uses antihealing items

[@chrs-wltrs]

I want to believe in Critrox 😔

[@thelittlegremlin6859]

aaaa my daily dose of malphite abuse

[@hallow2309]

hashinshin's dream

[@kawaka4432]

I think you need to do Divine for healing, damage and armor pen

[@sebastianlaplume461]

People think aatrox counters teemo because his range, lockdown, and ability oriented damage. However, me, a cultured aatrox player, knows that aatrox counters teemo because whenever teemo is invisible trying to cheese, aatrox just starts flaming the shit out of him, thus revealing his presence and destroying his will to live (will happen with ganks too).

[@markzakrocki4820]

I love counter picking aatrox with lilia predator and ghost top

[@Kaizoun]

Its like he never changed...

[@truqzztv3848]

man imagine the old aatrox with new items.... he would be so fkn busted.

[@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.]

Me too... never forgive Riot for removing my main.