I Built a Piston Engine with 160 Cylinders...

[@irgiefarras]

worst thing is that it's an inline 160 just to make it longer for no reason

[@AspectBros]

How about ‘petroleum inline 160’? Edit: or ‘petroleum inline one hundred and sixty’

[@mattg5852]

yea, i wanted to see him make a R-4360 Waspe Major radial engine.....

[@Its_just_Dave.]

The reason is for entertainment purposes lol. It was entertaining so it fulfilled its purpose.

[@0megaming]

Yeah true, but exept for in a dragster or plane, where do you wanna build it into?

[@mrllamaton1873]

Split into 2 radials, like an H, but with two radials

[@Chris_Cable]

Use that engine as the starter for a bigger engine, which starts a bigger engine.. :)

[@FunnyFrats]

Lol

[@60NineK]

unfortunately you can only have one engine per creation

[@user-xl6yo6gf8e]

exactly what I thoght as well

[@TheSeacretNINJA]

yah i was thinking what if he made a motor just as a starter lmfao

[@BeefTechnology]

@60NineK no? I can put multiple engines on the same build

[@MrMattkid]

The linear 16 is cool and all, but why not do it radially with the V piston blocks? Then you would have 8 pistons working together on the 1 cam. Then, you only need a 180° offset for the other group of 8.

[@cheetahman515]

But it's fun to do an i160

[@davidannen7448]

They have a block for a nine cylinder radial. I doubled up to make an 18 cylinder, ala the Pratt & Whitney R2800 Double Wasp that was in lots of cool American planes in WWII.

[@bobhopman4648]

19:09 no, you need to put it in a train.

[@MrKoalabeere]

That would be sick.

[@bobhopman4648]

@@MrKoalabeere and just kans style

[@Angel_dust_plays]

Hell yeah❤

[@Super_Pershing_T26E1_1]

would be the true superpower locomotive the UP needed

[@CarlFruehan]

Angle should have been 45 because a 4 stroke engine needs to do 720 degrees for a cycle. Similar error on your radial engine but that's harder to fix and also why odd numbered cylinder radial engines are common.

[@the.other.ian.]

69 cylinder radial engine when?

[@ElderonAnalas]

now only to wait for them to add rotary cylinders

[@herosvicentegonzalez7872]

I was about to coment this

[@Pystro]

Which means that 15 cylinders would have been ideal. Either doing 48 degrees offset between each cylinder (going up to 720-48 for the last) with a firing order of 1,2,3,... Or 24 degrees offset between neighboring pistons (which will take you to 360-24 degrees) and you'd need to make make the firing order 1,9,2,10,3,11,4,12,5,13,6,14,7,15,8. And for a 16-cylinder engine with an offset of 22.5 degrees, the firing order would be 1,9,2,10,3,11,4,12,5,13,6,14,7,15,8,16.

[@davidannen7448]

Oh dang is that what's wrong with my 18-cyl? It runs OK, it just took a decent amount of throttle and head tuning to get it to idle.

[@amagicion5130]

Assuming the game treats these as 2 stroke pistons, the initial 16 piston setup has an issue with timing/firing order, which then got duplicated for the rest. With the setup you used, you are giving every cylinder a powerstroke on the first revolution, then an exhaust stroke on the second, rather than half and half. Correcting this would also remove the need for half degrees, as each offset would be an additional 45 from the previous rather than 22.5. This may also be part of why you get those popping sound effects when the engine is running LOL. All that said, if I am wrong and the game treats these as 1 stroke motors, then your setup here is correct, but the I4 would probably be improved by using 90 degree offsets rather than twin 180.

[@Pystro]

That's the rough idle that was noted at 13:52.

[@bobhopman4648]

2:29 to fix the half a degree timing discrepancy just run one at 22 degrees of then the next at 23 degrees off then 22 then 23 again.

[@Pitstopcomponents]

Unnecessary, a inline 16 would have a 45° crank angle, not 22.5... its a 4 stroke after all.. so it needs two revolutions per powerstroke. An inline 4 has not 90°-->360°/4... but (360°*2)/4 = 180° a inline 8 has 90° --> (360°*2)/8= 90°... the way he built it, it fires 16times at one revolution, and zero times for the second revolution, since all 16 cylinders are doing their intakes simultaneous--> staggered but all within 180° from each other, which also is the rotational angle per stroke...

[@bobhopman4648]

@@Pitstopcomponents I'm just going off what he wanted to do

[@AstridDaFox]

​@@Pitstopcomponentsthis game is treating it as a 2 stroke. It is not a 4 stroke

[@Pitstopcomponents]

@@AstridDaFox so it fires every rotation? Wouldnt make sense since firing order would have to be different-> inline 4 would only have 1 & 2… but each twice

[@AstridDaFox]

​@Pitstopcomponents well for his I4 he did a 4 stroke firing pattern which makes it impossible for the pistons to fire as a 2 stroke because it's not their turn yet, so they basically just don't fire for one rotation. If they were 4 stroke pistons then in this video kan's engine would've had major problems because all the pistons would fire in order for one rotation and then all not fire for the next rotation which would make the engine lurch. So on the bright side kan made the equivalent of a 4-stroke 320 cylinder engine

[@arandomnpc6409]

If you right click on a slider it allows you to change the values however you like, I think it works with the firing order aswell

[@kANGaming]

Hmm interesting I will try this next time.

[@clytical6468]

Yeah in found that out aswell thats so dumb if you build like a 1 Zylinder that has 400kw 🤣

[@thekingjdd]

you beat me to it

[@clytical6468]

@@thekingjdd you can crank up the rpm to like 9000 and crank up efficiency to like 4 or higher and yeeet it 🤣

[@danialmelloman8403]

​@kANGaming Kan also click the numbers where rpm and degree displacement for shafts can be edited so like rpm on cylinder heads click 4000 rpm (number it's self) and just type what number you want in. Works multiple areas. I took off my cript writer and still works.

[@Colfax98]

Kan, here's some useful tips that I learned playing this game, might help with projects like these in the future. 1 - If you shift+q there's an option to turn all part in the creation on or off with a single click. 2 - You should always change your building materials before you start spawning parts otherwise you'll have to go back and change all of them one by one. 3 - You can right click any of the settings for the parts that can be customized and enter any value. For example, you can right click the engine max rpm and set it to 20000, if you want, physics might not like it, but it's possible and if don't go crazy high there's no issue.

[@0rangeGhost4]

it would also help with 22.5 angle i imagine

[@MattiAntsuK]

I used to work as a locomotive mechanic, we worked on alot of V8 to V20 engines. The engines were the diesel-electric kind. So a common way to start them was to use the electric generator itself as the starter like you did at 13:00.

[@Pystro]

US trains are sometimes run with 4 diesel engines throughout the consist (distributed power). (I think 3 engines is the max for double- or triple-heading and there's no quadruple-heading. But I might be wrong.) So this is actually a whole train worth of cylinders. A _seriously large_ train worth of cylinders.

[@jacoboopy9150]

you should definitely check out turning off the "double pitch" or whatever in the cyl head settings. default is 2-stroke, turning that off makes it sound like a 4-stroke! make for some lovely sounding engines. also, the clutch was over-torqued. you can right click on values to edit them outside the games limits!

[@60NineK]

whaaat you can??

[@benjaminschoepke3229]

@@60NineKyes need more tyre grip, right click the value set it to 2,3,5,10,100 anything to a degree

[@jacoboopy9150]

@60NineK yeah it's great! Spend some time just messing with every Slider on a single cylinder, I promise you'll learn loads!

[@collinkaufman2316]

Outside the limits😏 i am building the most stupid engine possible

[@jacoboopy9150]

@@collinkaufman2316 that's honestly my best advice :D

[@jeffreyblack666]

Standard rules for inline engines is to have the opposite pistons 180 degrees apart. This prevents rocking. That means they should be separated by the number of cylinders for firing order. Other than that it shouldn't matter that much.

[@thefool4492]

Never putting this in a car? How dare you make something so glorious and then not build a Brutus out of it!

[@60NineK]

That torque... omg

[@Achelea]

A full cycle is 2 complete rotations, which is 720 Degrees, so to find out the offset, you divide 720 by the number of cylinders, which 160 cylinders would have a 4.5 offset.

[@Nevir202]

Now that you have cursed us with this monstrosity, you know what has to be done, right? You need to build a car around it lol Someone: Hey, is your car front, mid or rear engine? kAN: Yes!

[@Mobliz]

16 cylinders on a commercially produced car, the most recent examples of which are the Cizeta Moroder V16T and the Bugatti Veyron. Other vehicles have had far more, for instance the Chrysler A57 multibank engine developed for the Sherman tank had 30 cylinders. Some custom/show/race cars have also had more cylinders, usually by joining 2 or 3 engines in series. For example, guy in the UK built a motorcycle with sixteeen kawaski KH250 engines, each 3 cyclinder, for a total of 48 cylinders. He has a youtube channel about it.

[@creeplickitaOFFICIAL]

Ur right, another example may be the Alfa Romeo 16c bimotore ( wich translates to "twin engine" )

[@ducewags]

@Mobliz For the best sounding v-16. Caddy, Packard and CAT 3516. Most insane for it's size, a 1.5l V-16 supercharged 600hp 12,000rpm, British Racing Motor from 1947.

[@Oblivion2K11]

Mad scientist time. Make a radial engine with a clutch into the front of your 160 radial convert to start it and pump that torque.

[@StateBicycle366]

kan you know what you have to do right? Extend the cart chassis and attach this bad boy to it

[@Cjb-nuc9extremegamer]

"What kinda engine you got in your car." Kan: "An I160" "A WHAT?"

[@bonovoxel7527]

"just crank the angle offset... sooo... Oh, shoot!" 🤣🤣🤣that cracked me, even tho I was still figuring out why inline16 are not actually a thing

[@some1316]

you should go watch a video about exhaust setups, there are ways to make any car sound pretty much like a f1 car, and I've seen a dude do this crazy exhaust that made his MUSCLE car sound almost like an f1.

[@AstridDaFox]

You should hear up to a high rpm gear ratio before the clutch and then back down because you're being limited by the amount of torque the clutch can send through to the load so if you make it spin faster it will have less torque put on it and be able to transmit all of the power.

[@Le-coolguy]

Wow he released 9:30pm (uk time) so organised

[@AuraKnightTheLucario]

if you right click the number on firing order i believe it lets you manualy enter a number even beyond 16, i believe they delimited most settings like that

[@Pitstopcomponents]

@kAN Gaming , your crankshaft angles are wrong. Its a 4-stroke, not two... there always have to be two pistons at the same position, but one does compression while the other does exhaust... your math probably was: 360°/16 = 22.5° , but since its a 4 stroke(2rev. per cycle) it should be (360°*2)/16= 45°... your inline 4 also has 180° not 90°... an inline 6 has 120° not 60°... for having them stacked *10 it will be less of an issue if they are then staggered to each other, but maybe you now got it running with delays from firing, because all 160 pistons do their intake and compression within 1 rotation, and none ignition and exhaust...

[@jakubpollak2067]

Kan should really look at tutorial As you can manually edit any number by right-clicking it It would helped him so much, timing, starter torque etc. Some menus, like turn on/off all components would also helped

[@Gamerjourney259]

I think of this video as a tutorial of how to start world pollution in under 30 seconds.Great video by the way

[@trackdog448]

I remember having to fire up a pony motor to start our work locomotive at the coal yard. Good times.

[@Hamsteren91]

You can put what you want in the slider. You can make a 42 cylinder engine spinning at 12000rpm with 2.5 volumetric efficiency just right click on the number and edit it. 😁

[@DeadBread.]

This was just as amazing as i had hoped

[@1spac3d0ut]

if you look at the build, hold shift + q, there will be an option to freeze and unfreeze all parts, and to turn parts on and off. that way you dont have to remember to enable each part before its completely built

[@Wico90YT]

Break the speed of sound

[@davidannen7448]

The game can't take the physics of gears spinning faster than like 8000 rpm. You'd have to have some gears spinning much faster than that to get to Mach 1.

[@cdencio27]

12:50 thats a really big starter😂😂😂

[@notcrashhard]

Hey, kan, you can enable all toggle able things if you press 0 and then shift-Q on the thing you want to enable or duplicate. You can also hit as many alt-lmb’s as you want without having to click off of it

[@Nevir202]

Fun fact: There are some old tractors with what is called a "pony motor" literally a smaller petrol engine which acts as a starter on the big ol' diesel lol

[@Zimon_Sombie]

Ok, now put the i160 into a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimousine.

[@Dzonny_yt]

Yes

[@mysticfox6599]

If you haven't yet you should look into pony motors, they're used to start high compression diesels all the time.

[@Cjarka_]

best part is that the centrifugal clutch was set to only do 1100 Nm and the engine was making 9800 xD

[@randomthingswithrandarawan8077]

Now take and redo the same engine with different layouts of inline 4 6 and 8 cranks as well as V8 crankshaft splays and rod angles. In simple words. Take a simple 4 cylinder crank up down down up. Then you take the second one down up up down and so on until you get the length. Same goes for the rest of the crank styles there are out there. Rotate the next crank in line the same amount as its own throws. Then take all the styles and line them up back to back and try that.

[@MattyO2019]

one quick thing for mass copying things like engine cylinders, you dont have to click off of them to copy another, just alt + click it again while it's highlighter

[@danialmelloman8403]

Kan also click the numbers where rpm and degree displacement for shafts can be edited so like rpm on cylinder heads click 4000 rpm (number it's self) and just type what number you want in. Works multiple areas

[@xusername357]

Im loving this game. I just finished a big i6 for the 8x8 with articulated frame that I'm attempting. It won't be fast but it will not give a crap where it is

[@kelvinelrick807]

Now make a bigger engine and use a pony engine to start the big engine. That's how you'd start the old diesel engines in old heavy equipment. Since starter motors weren't powerful enough in the early days.

[@wille69]

What engine ya got in that thing? Uh, an inline 160

[@DigitalM_M]

That engine is the new starter for the next engine!

[@asimpkiss]

If you want to check out a 16 cylinder engine firing order, I put a realistic W16 up on the workshop that has a realistic firing order and crankshaft. I'm working on the big-bore version of it as well, which has a more "real" twin VR8 layout.

[@I_Like_White]

If u go to change the RPM just right click and u can adjust it to anything like 12000 RPM or 20000000000RPM

[@TheShadowStalker.]

If you right click on the torque and max rpm settings you can enter larger values than it normally allows and IT DOES WORK!!😂 I typically set my torque on starters to about 75-100 and max rpm depends on the engine build. Also works on engine head and basically any value slider😂

[@Tfin]

A straight 16 has been made. That is to be taken literally: A single straight 16 was made by welding together several inline 4s, about 8 years ago. The game needs distributors.

[@ElyriatheWitch]

i dont know anything about cars or this game but you should totally put it in car i want to see the chaos that may ensue!

[@StalJan2000]

@kANGaming have a hack for maximum slider limit is easy to break limit using right button on mouse with corsor on the numbers and can edit numbers. I watch first seconds of you video and IDK what's coming next 👍

[@FnfRussianEmperor]

Oil and fuel: Goodbye!

[@nekowknight]

Could always cram the 160 pistions into a circle engine like the old WW2 planes to save space that then should allow for a ultra super monster truck vehicle. Although good luck with remembering the connections and firing order. Also surprised you aren't doing satisfactory 1.0 series.

[@nyspace1]

it does and I agree it is COOL : : : :Edit: Kan, please put the longest engine into a limousine body. I think it will look amazing (and maybe a little silly)

[@derpmaster2732]

Ok hear me out. Start an inline 1600 with an inline 160. Which can be started with an inline 16.

[@_miobrot_603]

idk why but 13:36 the engine sounding so terrible made me laugh so much

[@rotli2189]

Make a 288 cilinder 9×32 radial engine.

[@RicardoGuma33]

O hell ya i love your videos of gearblocks they are so amazing

[@brain_jar2993]

When you get tired of turning things on individually you can turn on/off every component in the same menu you save the build from.

[@elitdm7524]

Hi kan :D you should make a boxer

[@FunnyFrats]

Yes

[@benpluta3924]

😂 this is ridiculous sick and it worked well done!!!!!

[@bonovoxel7527]

People asked, you made. ❤ (more suspensions geometry pleeeease!)

[@magnaveradaboi]

I'd love to see strange engine layouts like a W, H, U and so on.

[@nathanwilbrink2444]

Now make two radials (with a combined 160 pistons) conected with each other with gears so the engine is 1/8th the length (it would be 20 pistons long i think) and then put it in a car

[@HenryCaulk]

The amount of tourque it would have with proper timeing would be crazy

[@petertolnai9369]

I like how the electric motor kindof sounds like a supercharger/turbo

[@justinreher1500]

Kan! you can manually input a torque or rpm value as high as you want for all sliders in part configuration

[@Lucas-dy4or]

If you hold Lshift + Q there are two buttons which let you turn on and off all parts on the creation 6:53

[@gmlviper]

Have you tried disconnecting the starter after the engine starts? Try that, check the torque and actual HP after.

[@loghut]

you could have gone for a bunch of 10-cylinder engines connected to each other and made the offset 36 degrees between each cylinder

[@theredstormer8078]

The reason nobody makes engines larger than an I8 or V16 is that a crankshaft that long is just too floppy. It's also just too big for any practical vehicle. Also I think you somehow left the clutch gear engaged right? That motor sounded horrid.

[@copy4862]

quick lifehack: do ctrl + A and then shift + q and you can then turn on/off everything on the creation with one button

[@CanicusVoid]

As a load, you could have also used the electric engine as a generator. And then make your own diesel electric locomotive

[@Little_noobi]

This Is the engine that would be in one of those super long cartoon limousines

[@TopaT0pa]

nice ship engine I guess - corkscrew timing is a thing now. Not efficient, but it looks nice

[@Sentinel42069]

I've built an I4 with around similar or more power but still good job on that massive thing...!

[@SivaMacca]

kAN, please make this as a rotery engine, that would be insane. Imagine a plane with 160 pistons powering the propeller. The sound barrier would look more like a snails pace

[@vannancoull-barnes4997]

Shouldn't it be a 45 degree offset so you have two pistons aligned? Because then one is doing compression and oen is doing combustion and you don't need fractional angles, kinda like how an inline 4 has 1 and 4 and 2 and 3 synced with each other at the crank but offset by 180 at the cam

[@minielektricar247]

Cmon I was waiting for you ti connect all exausts to one pipe so it makes a huge smoke cloud

[@TheWrightViewer]

At this point you might as well daisy chain engines for a massive starter on an even more massive engine.

[@sockenbullegaming]

are you sure that you dont want to put this masterpiece into a dragster with a LOT of gearing?

[@justinsexton6659]

worlds first and only straight 16 cylinder engine for automobile, the Herkules in 1934

[@FreddyFazboy399]

Kan can you try to build short course truck I would love to see how you could make the suspension with the solid axle in the back on and double wishbone suspension on the front great video love your videos ❤❤

[@w1ngbr0man13]

dont know if u know this kan but when editing the rpm stuff or torque you can right click and manually type in a number that exceeds the limit the slider gives you

[@GamingGuyLV]

You can precisely edit any slider by right clicking it and then you can just write whatever number comes to mind, it doesn't have limits! Well there's just physic limits i guess

[@FancyDucko]

If you use shift q to get up the construction menu (the one where you can save creations) you can turn all parts on and off there

[@J-Playz1234]

Now we need to do this with the bigger cylinders

[@meromere8339]

you can right click the things like rpm and stuff and set it to a value you want like lets take rpm the game only allows 4k but you could change it to something like 30k hope you see this and makes a video on it

[@markiusgalfordii9248]

There's twenty four piston engines out there for ships.

[@toomanytododge2594]

Torque is what in line engine are known for thats about 7080 ft lbs of torque. A semi truck with the biggest motor can put down about 2k ft lbs

[@efrm23]

I would love to see you build in stormworks. Love the vids tho bro

[@dhlabsgaming1065]

Kan is pretty darn concerned about the size of the starter. Meanwhile, the engine size makes that starter look like a joke… so… honestly? I don’t see the problem. You already need an engine compartment size as large as a pretty big bus. That isn’t even to speak on a whole rest of a vehicle.

[@Ghastly24]

You should make one of the long streamline locomotives and put the engine in it. 🚂

[@Fuscao_Preto]

An inline 16 is just 4 i4 for the firing order. The way you did would warp the crankshaft at idle.

[@littlepastelkitten]

firing order should be 1,4,8,16 then 2,6,10,14 then 3,7,11,15 then 5,9,13,12, and continue that the length of the engine. then you can do 45° angle across the entire length of the crank shaft rather than it just being a spiral

[@Wopper420]

He needs to do a radial 20 56L

[@Kenshuri]

bigger starter motor? just use another engine to start the engine, and chain them xD small electric -> 4 cylinder engine -> 20 cyl engine etc

[@kylewestfall7185]

A radial 16 would be cool!

[@adheremtmeat]

Kans first fine tuning project this will be the beast