I Busted More Baldur's Gate 3 Myths in 2024

[@ProxyGateTactician]

With patch 7 Releasing Today the Bounty is closed and it went unclaimed. I figured I would have had someone claim it within a week of posting this tbh. Guess it really wasn't in the game for patch 6. Need more time to see if it is in patch 7?

[@Mxiehere]

Gradually increase the bounty for every patch and see how long it takes lmao

[@witchamy]

​@@Mxieherewell there wont be any more major patches, this was the last one

[@Mxiehere]

@@witchamy oh :( dang

[@Fluflebuny]

Since consoles aren’t on Patch 7 yet, if someone found it on there (which also means it’s almost impossible to edit the game files and fake) would it be possible to collect the bounty?

[@PolarBailey]

@@socjocinus no you didn't

[@TucoBenedicto]

For people who don't know, the Halsin "portal defense" quest is completely trivialized by simply casting darkness over the portal and making it not targetable from range.

[@hush9185]

WHY DIDN'T I THINK OK THAT! omg lol I feel dumb but ty xD

[@lawrencefosterjenkins8216]

I always do this, and the shadow-cursed humanoids take their sweet time trying to run to the portal to melee attack it, so the real priority is making sure ravens/shadows/shadow creepers don’t get too close.

[@TucoBenedicto]

@@lawrencefosterjenkins8216 My point is that the ranged attacks have always been the only vaguely challenging part of the quest. Especially if someone in the party has the Blood on Lathander making every other melee enemy a blind, useless pushover. So the "darkness over the portal" trick factually makes the defense basically risk-free even on Honor mode.

[@lawrencefosterjenkins8216]

@@TucoBenedicto I mean that was also my point…

[@KisekiFan]

Hot damn, why didn't I think of that, that was a brilliant idea.

[@ImChurro]

I had a friend who did the karlach easter egg, but you wouldn’t know him. He went to a different school

[@invalid8774]

Does he live in canada?

[@tanjredshirt]

"It's too early in the game for tragic backstories." -- Karlach, very early in the game

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yea lol that’s the one 4th wall break that isn’t a myth.

[@QuestionableObject]

@@ProxyGateTactician honestly i wouldn't even call it a 4th wall break considering 'early/late in the game' is a turn of phrase.

[@melvinparker7742]

P😅

[@Elite_Tauren_Chieftain]

“My turn!” - Karlach, when it’s her turn

[@jdtruchan]

people use the word "game" for real life all the time. And "too early in the game" is a pretty common phrase to use in any kind of real life project, task, or event

[@MrParadux]

Interestingly with the method you discovered, you can even reach level 12 even before entering act 2, so that is even more impressive.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

lol true, but also absolutely insane to think how many hours that would take + corpses you'd need to dispose of

[@socalminstrel]

@@ProxyGateTactician Technically possible, practically impossible! But it's still extremely impressive that you found even a theoretical path to it. I love your BG3 content and watch every one of them.

[@KasumiRINA]

@@ProxyGateTactician is there any graphic settings that starts clearing corpses past some point or Larian haven't learned about fixing their memory leaks hogging up the game size in memory they had since Divine Divinity? No jokes, I stopped playing their games before exactly because at some point it just became a slide-show on old PC as they remember the state of every item. BG definitely does some clean-up at story points (I had everything I dropped in camps at the party - I roleplayed so hard it was all covered in bottles, pieces of food, and green puddles of questionable liquids, but when I moved to Mountain Pass it cleared EVERYTHING and put trash into our travel chest) so maybe you can force the game to unload clutter midway by just entering another area?

[@ProxyGateTactician]

For sure there’s something that triggers it because the corpses are replaced by little bags, but I don’t know what causes that

[@Laxerjan]

@@ProxyGateTactician I thought long resting did that but I honestly don't know for sure

[@SlimXG]

The trigger for Karlach's fourth wall break scene is flagged as "IMPOSSIBLE" both in the current patch files, and in the version 1.0 files. Also, the camera positions during the scene are clearly unfinished, popping around to random spots. So it seems pretty unlikely that it's intentionally accessible in the game.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Absolutely agree with you. If you do the cutscene on any elevation it's completely messed up, but so many people claimed to have seen it that I decided to give them a chance + incentive to show it. I liked the theory some people shared that it was a bug where one cutscene triggers in place of the correct one in error. I'll be interested to see if someone posts a method anyways.

[@SlimXG]

@@ProxyGateTactician Right, can't completely rule out some sort of bug that triggered the wrong file. But since you wisely specified that the method needs to be reproducible, I think your money is safe hahah

[@ProxyGateTactician]

@@SlimXG Yeah I mainly wanted it reproducible so that someone doesn't download the mod -> post the video -> and go hey send me my money. It's not enough proof lol I feel pretty confident it's safe as well, but it's fun reading people go off to search and post theories

[@expepem189xl3]

@@ProxyGateTactician Thats a good troll if that is, it is triggerable as early as you recruit Karlach, already left comment about it, but maybe it also somehow connected to not completing all dialogue in grove, not clearing goblin site, not having full party slots(i had Shadow heart and Astarion) , not using Long rest(never used it, because thinked game actually putted us on timer for 7 days) . Jumping to the place throw rocks? I am not sure if i werent suppose to get Karlach before i beat Furbolgs or what are the hiegna things are. Were just talking to Karlach almost right away. Maybe you also need to give her fire sword from that demon on the ship, used command to make him drop it. So try it too? Dont use any healing potions or other stuff like that that one time use. I had magic gloves for catching missles, and played on normal difficulty, Honestly if thats not a joke tell me later, i might just deal with stuff that i planned for few games and download bg3 just to record it. Had that cutscene ~5 month ago, game still had pretty big bugs, so i was mad about it, like interface broke during gate fight, my spells returned to default mid tutorial, something else was breaking too. Were so mad that after i were oneshotted a bunch of times by boss in Goblin camp i dropped game.

[@expepem189xl3]

@@ProxyGateTactician Oh waw there is even bounty, sorry didnt finish video, i am sure you will lose that money pretty fast, like as soon as someone will see this video they will record it.

[@LadyYuipha]

You were insane enough to grind to level 11 once. And then just…decided to do it over again. Just like that.

[@danielgrantham3756]

Wait... I thought everyone hit lvl 11 in act 2... It's not that hard

[@LadyYuipha]

@@danielgrantham3756 really? …this isn’t about how hard it is to hit level 11 in act 2, it’s about grinding every single point of xp in those two acts, every single one, and doing it AGAIN to make sure he didn’t miss out on anything. And thus finding out that you could technically even get to level 12 in Act 1, were you insane enough. This is a comment on his dedication to video game journalism, not how awesome he is for hitting level 11 twice.

[@subphantom6195]

@@LadyYuiphathe other guys is joking

[@sirjoesphjoestar8361]

@@danielgrantham3756 no, thats not fckin normal lmfao. you reach lvl 10 after some decent amounts of grinding.

[@maxb2244]

​@LadyYuipha There's no way there is enough XP in act 1 to reach level 12

[@shawnwolf5961]

On myth 2, that comes from tabletop DnD, where no animal larger than a peacock is allowed in BG3. This is for a few different reasons, one of which being how wet the roads are all the time due to the fact they are right on the ocean line. And the fact that the entire city is sloping slightly. So animals that are larger could conceivably injure someone. This is mentioned in Faerun lore.

[@exosproudmamabear558]

Thats kinda stupid there are animals that have easier time with wet slopes than humans like goats,bears. It is unacceptable they separated them from their father. I am suing

[@ProxyGateTactician]

If you're among the many who are confident you ran into the Karlach 4th wall break be sure to share any info you have. May be able to help others to hunt down the trigger for it. I'd honestly love to see someone find it. It could be a case of being super rare, but no one was looking. I'd be surprised though.

[@Besieged1927]

It's good that you are sceptical of the claims of the cutscene, sounds like a clear case of the Mandela Effect, made even worse by the popularity of Karlach. Best wishes to those secret finders but if the code says not triggerable then that is the most likely scenario, people have seen the video of the conversation and miss-remembered it in their own game

[@ProxyGateTactician]

@@Besieged1927 That's how I feel yeah. All people claiming to have seen it only posted after Chubblot's video was posted. Not 1 post about it before then, but afterwards a lot popped up. THEN like 4+ months after his video is not being seen as often and no one mentions it at all again.

[@_gerg]

I 100% triggered it on my first play through, It was Act 3, I did not romance any character, Though Karlach was positive reputation. But thats all I remember since i didnt know it was significant at the time. Im not confused with the other cutscene, definitly triggered organically

[@ProxyGateTactician]

@@_gerg act 3 eh? Interesting. Really do wonder what the trigger could be. Was it a long time ago by chance? I almost wonder if it was in patch 1 and then removed or something at this point

[@_gerg]

@ProxyGateTactician I played a while after it won the game of the year, I do remember the scene sort of coming out from nowhere, as in I wasn't at camp. I didnt ever use my illithid powers or use any worms either.

[@KasumiRINA]

Enlarge / Reduce is coded WEIRDLY, somehow by making medium characters small, they still cannot fit into holes, but by casting disguise self (her default domain skill), Shadowheart somehow fit into that topaz hole in the Underdark, despite only, I assume, slouching really hard.

[@TheArnoldification]

Old commemt but it sounds like they hard coded the baldurs gate aninal thing and fitting to holes by appropriate creature type rather than size tags. Have you tried the inverse of casting enlarge person on something that'd nornally fit?

[@MegaOgrady]

That's odd. There's a small hole that leads to the back of the owlbear cavern. I didn't know that at the time so I casted reduce on my character to investigate and was able to go through it.

[@KasumiRINA]

@@MegaOgrady Hmm, I think some of these holes can be passed on any size, notably goblin camp prison passage, just have to dig it up. But multiple times I tried disguise worked but reduce didn't.

[@Dianwhy]

@@MegaOgrady From the underdark? I went back to the owlbear cave once I had gaseous form, but I couldnt find the hole again.

[@MegaOgrady]

@@Dianwhy No. It's outside the blighted village and leads into the owlbear cavern

[@beda9beda]

There is an idea for myth 1 - stumbled across this just today: In the moonrise towers there is a quest to free deep gnomes from the prison. What happened is I just decided to break the wall in their prison cell with Agonizing Blast from my Warlock. Gnomes started to run, but were eventually caught by guards + the flying Absolute eye. This eye was very far away and I could not kill it, however each turn it would scream for reinforcements - resulting in 2 new enemies each turn. I was hoping that those guards come from upstairs and will run out eventually at some point. But It seemed no end to those guys. I was playing honour mode, so I cant load back and test if they are trully endless, but I checked upstairs hoping that there would be empty tower - I was wrong again. Everyone stood on their places

[@ProxyGateTactician]

It's not endless it does eventually pull them from upstairs. If you are upstairs it even pulls them from downstairs. There are random guards from the docks, and near Kethrics bedroom etc that get pulled first. After a while the eyes run out of people to call. It takes a very long time though if you didn't kill anyone before the eyes start doing that.

[@beda9beda]

@@ProxyGateTactician Gotcha :(

[@Mazaxaker94]

I found another infinite XP exploit before Act 3. In Gith Greche there is a Gremishka cat inside a chest the Gith kids are playing with. When I started fighting it, it's reaction to cantrips was spawning a new Gremishka. Every turn. So it's +3 xp every turn you cast a cantrip or a spell.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Dang why does it also have to be 3 xp lol did Larian troll us by doing this

[@AirLancer]

@@ProxyGateTactician Almost certainly to prevent anyone sane from trying to grind XP from it.

[@Xeyvian]

I loved mystery box. Did the exact same thing, and let em multiply before one of the larger fights and they destroyed. Am wondering if you can salvage one of them by knocking them out and putting it back into a box.

[@Dianwhy]

@@Xeyvian Wait, is this a schroedinger joke?

[@korakys]

The peacock law implementation is very impressive from Larian. I believe the lore is decades old and pre-dates Larian's game. I noticed a lot of the dragonborn NPCs in this game seem to be good at performance (singing or instruments). Does anyone know if that's influenced by DnD lore or is just a coincidence?

[@DeepFryMeme]

It could be because of how rare Dragonborn are in Baldur’s Gate. The ones with visible jobs are the shopkeeper, the two bards (that I know of), a druid, the brothel attendant and the butler. Those aren’t very prestigious jobs so maybe it’s what the Dragonborn had to settle for because of… discrimination or something?

[@jvoy8821]

In the PHB their base race has a +1 to Charisma. Plus, as you said, they're unusual, look striking (they're pretty big so have a powerful presence) and mature pretty quick so probably take life experiences in better than most.

[@echodff]

They can't poop so they had to learn performance to release all that weight on their souls.

[@Beesman88]

I think Peacock rule is older than even first Baldur's Gate game - I think og Ed Greenwood wrote about the rule somewhere first but not sure, weird it's hard to search for the origins. Anyway there were people breeding larger and larger peacocks for profit - to move the size goalpost in the outer city, which is hilarious mix of bureaucracy meeting law-breaking, so very on point for that city.

[@narratornavigatorstoryteller]

as someone who has way too much knowledge about forgotten realms lore, can confirm that the peacock rule is not a larian creation. it's so funny to me to see them get that niche knowledge correct and then completely fuck up the lore of a bunch of other things (which is reasonable, don't get me wrong, my poor multiplayer companions just have to hear The Netheril Rant every time we play)

[@edwardgill1882]

Grinding all those dwarf zombies...reminds of me of, "We hang out in the forest, killing boars."

[@jasosik]

Sixty-five million three hundred and forty thousand two hundred and eighty five. Which should take us seven weeks five days thirteen hours and twenty minutes, giving ourselves three hours a night to sleep. What do you say, guys? You can just...you can just hang outside in the sun all day tossin' a ball around, [firmly] or you can sit at your computer and do somethin' that matters.

[@hi2u670]

this engagement comment can only convey a fraction of the joy i feel seeing a new proxy bg3 vid. lovely work as always

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Thanks a ton!

[@patrickhannon2694]

5:30 WAIT THATS ME, IM THE GUY THAT POSTED THAT idk if the myth has been busted or not yet but it absolutely worked when I did it because it restricted movement and enemies attacks couldn’t beat the threshold, and I used darkness to cover the portal

[@TheFrothyBrew]

Others here have said that they simply cast darkness on the portal and that's enough.

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

Darkness alone completely makes the fight a joke No point in blocking the target if the enemies just cannot hit it at all

[@atheisticcreatures]

The second you mentioned Gekh's Minions, I immediately heard "Live to Win" in my head. One of my favorite Southpark episodes definitely left a mark on my brain. I never thought I would experience similar madness in real life. You have my respect! :D

[@d0rinat0r]

Make Love, Not Warcraft.

[@crungushakooter]

I love how much you can break the game with barrels/crates I made a spiral staircase of crates on top of the druid's grove gate once, you can go so high up that you unload the environment lighting data

[@KasumiRINA]

2:45 you underestimate people who grinded to level 99 before fighting the first boss in Final Fantasy VII.

[@Keely_OReally]

🙋‍♀ that was me

[@KasumiRINA]

@@Keely_OReally Achievement unlocked! 🔓 Now you can fight the Guard Scorpion. 🦂

[@Burning_the_toast]

@@Keely_OReally it wasnt

[@Burning_the_toast]

@@Keely_OReally and before you go you dont know me or how would you know is because it takes literal months to do and toke a dude almost a year you did not sit and grind a single fight for months on end to almost a full year lol

[@Keely_OReally]

@@Burning_the_toast except it was me b/c I was one those people who got to level 99 just by running around fighting random foes. I'm not talking about the remake, I'm talking about the original FF7. I also did in FF8 too. I still have my memory card for my old playstations. You know back in 90s early 2000s. Yeah. You don't know me.

[@theapologist6717]

As someone who always has Hunger of Hader and Spike Growth on two different characters, that Halsin quest is the easiest thing ever and I forget sometimes some people struggle with it.

[@meepmeeped4815]

If you struggle with the Halsin portal encounter and need to create a wall, here’s my method and I’ve never failed this little quest on any difficulty including HM. Step 1. Summon darkness on the portal and use either devils site with a warlock, or ever sight ring from the morgue. Step 2. Have the character with magical blindness immunity sit in the darkness to pick off the teleporting hounds Step 3. WALL OF FIRE all of the bottom of that rock and just sit up there with a sorcerer or something that uses the wall of fire Step4. Spirit guardian+boots of speed+haste or a speed potion will just destroy every single creature. Step 5. The 5th party member should just be a heavy hitting tank and just sit there either dodging every hit with an insane AC or just doing mad DPH. The main thing is the darkness and darkness immunity. You gain advantage in any enemy that comes to hit the portal, it makes them NEED to come into melee distance cus the archers have to get into a weird place to actually shoot it. Hope this helps anyone

[@kingofgrim4761]

Interesting. Frankly I’ve never had a problem as long as I use wall of fire. It usually kills more than 3/4 of the enemies, and then you just focus the archers. But then again, i usually have some sort of radiant damage for the shadows/wraith

[@meepmeeped4815]

@@kingofgrim4761 I’ve just heard a lot of people struggle with this. I’ve only struggled with one fight in BG, and that was Merkyl (can’t remember how to spell it). Destroyed Raph on my first ever attempt, and I was in HM for my first attempt, and I don’t really cheese the game massively for ludicrous damage. So thought I’d leave a tip for the portal as it’s very easy to defend IMO

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@meepmeeped4815 ayyy same. Once I understood the mechanics it was smooth sailing, Merkyl and the house of grief are the only fights I think are difficult and the latter is mainly if you don’t have a way to see in darkness

[@stephan4921]

This is pretty much how I do it as well, barely even have to move or attack once set up :D Some combination of darkness, wall of fire, hunger of hadar, spike growth, spirit guardians... there's plenty of ways to trivialize this encounter. I don't really understand crate stackers and barrel-mancers, it seems so tedious and boring, there isn't even any reason to use it, unless you're doing some challenge.

[@socalminstrel]

Honestly, I've found that Hypnotic Pattern basically trivializes it. Drop a Darkness on the portal, use Hypnotic Pattern on a (wide) area of the nearest enemies. Reapply Hypnotic Pattern when more mobs spawn in/get into the same area as everything else. I didn't explicitly check, but they must have very low WIS, because it seems like the spell CCs all of them or almost all of them and keeps them locked down. Easy to conventionally destroy the one or two that resist.

[@codytheisen5655]

Technically speaking, with the Ghek encounter and the Zombies. Could you have someone push/throw some of the corpses into the river/chasm (thus despawning them) to keep the number of them at a (comparatively) manageable level?

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Didn't try it, but that might work. It still is insanely slow because you keep having to drop combat -> re-engage.

[@4m4n40]

When i throw corpses into chasms, their corpses didn’t despawn

[@willowman6938]

@@4m4n40 yep, tried it myself and it does indeed not work, the corpses remain. However, you can loot the corpses and put them into chests so it's still plausible to farm those zombies for xp

[@joshuakim5240]

@@willowman6938 Place a "corpse chest" in the killing fields, all while wondering where the hell Ghek Coal is getting so many Duergar corpses to do this with. "Bloody hell, with this many dead (again) Duergar, we can make another freaking Oubliette." -Emperor, maybe.

[@LeoTheDarkAngel]

I'm so happy to see a new video of this sort! Myth 1: Maybe you could throw the corpses into borromless chasms (I'm not sure but doesn't the lake next to the beach count as one as well, or do all corpses thrown in there wash up on the shore?) and have them be gone? Maybe the game doesn't delete the bodies even though they're technically lost, as sometimes you can see bodies kinda "floating" in chasms, but I would assume they are deleted after reaching below some point in the z-axis 🤔 So that could be a way to deal with the lag. Myth 3: "Ending their turn while the portal took 0 damage" - Why is the portal missing hp then? 🧐 (jk) Myth 4: Samantha implying it's in the game does not necessarily mean it actually is reachable without cheats. I've also tried around a little bit, mainly with respeccing Karlach into a Cleric in different parts of the game and long resting/talking to her a few times but I lost interest relatively quick. They obviously recorded that bit and put it into the game, but for whatever reason, it may have been cut without the VA being made aware - why would you even notify the VA about every single decision made during the project? This is not to say it's definitely not in the game, but I agree with you that right now, there's no hard evidence suggesting it's triggerable without cheats. ...but now there's a bounty on Karlach's head (so to speak) so I may or may not be looking further into this 😈

[@ComingSoonEntertainment]

Fun fact about the "peacock law", to get around this law peacock farmers are breeding larger and larger peacocks so that dogs will eventually be allowed into the city.

[@TheLKStar]

I was sure I triggered the 4th wall break by myself just after finding her, but man, since you said it's pretty much impossible it might be some crazy mandela effect

[@SerLagsalot]

Ooof, this came out pretty much right after I killed Deurgar McZomboi in my Honour run. I could have used that 3xp trickle. It's been going rough. Fantastic work as always, Proxy!

[@codytheisen5655]

Same here, man. I JUST did that part last night before going to bed. Well if I fail this run, I'll keep that trick in mind for the next attempt.

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

It’s genuinely so cool that different animals are and aren’t allowed in based on their size. Just amazing

[@willowman6938]

I like coming back to this video a month after starting the xp spreadsheet, because it's shown me something I missed/miscounted. Apparently the portal defense xp is wrong in the spreadsheet, doesn't add up to the 1259 xp you got from it, so cheers for that. Thank God for youtube

[@rachelc8368]

Your videos are a joy to watch. I hope you have a lovely day

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Thank you! You too!

[@connorupton4200]

So what I’m seeing is that Larian cut the Karlach 4th wall break but didn’t tell the voice actress. And so when it leaked she thought it was still in the game, thus she made that snide comment about “yanking” the data without “context”, not realizing the only way people saw that part of her performance was because of data mining. Great example of how miscommunication can be a headache for everybody.

[@recodegamesstudio]

Or he just was just trolling to keep a air of mystery and secrecy around it and have people forever trying to find it and wondering.

[@UnsolPhysics]

Most videos that claim to be busting myths don't respect their roots! This man knows that the difference between messing around and science is writing it down, understands when to use plausible, and even rejected my reality and substituted his own!

[@irontoof]

I always suspected the Karlach 4th wall break was currently untriggerable. This is exactly my kind of insane behaviour. Major respect o7

[@bunnyboygamille]

This video was awesome! The thing with XP, on my Honour run I entered Act 3 about a 3rd of the way to level 11. My friends that play all asked "how??? There's no way, how could you be level 10 when entering Act 3?" My answer was "I killed everything that wasn't a teifling, druid, gnome, or mushroom in Act 1 and had my hand forced on killing LITERALLY EVERYONE in Moonrise (gaining enemy of justice on my durge really made Act 2 "fun" ) and then found and killed every other mob available in Act 2 that isn't a Harper, gnome, or teifling." So I assumed a proper murderhobo could get to level 12 before Act 3. That you found a way for it to be technically possible: I take my hat off to you.

[@bucketaxolotl2203]

It is likely the 4th wall break wit Karlach is cut content, as is one of the only Halsin-Minthara interactions.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yeah I like the theory some of the speedrunners have that it's a bug of one cutscene triggering in place of another at the wrong time. They're trying to find something along those lines.

[@RG32822]

There is also the origin rest cutscene with Karlach that can only trigger if you've met Dammon and rested before leaving the crash landing, which is impossible.

[@Leongon]

@@ProxyGateTactician I'm pretty sure is not a bug or cut content, unless it was enabled on a patch and then disabled in the next a few months ago. I encountered it and nothing felt unfinished about it. It just felt like an homage to the android in the starting menu of Detroit Become Human.

[@Zyphent]

Its so funny to me that YT comments are LOADED with claims about the Karlach scene, but no streamer or KZbinr has captured it organically.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

I fully expected to pay out by now. Hoping that if I say it’s not in the game people would flock to show me I’m wrong. Somehow it isn’t happening.

[@purplepenguin43]

@@ProxyGateTacticianmy guess is they haven’t put in the trigger yet and its intended to be part of patch 7 or whatever the deme to be the “last patch.” Or it was going to be an easter egg but then got turned into cut content. Which explains why the va thought it was in the game.

[@expepem189xl3]

@@purplepenguin43 Even if there is trigger, its has one pretty sad characteristic... Its random. Soul coin dialogue can just not trigger for 7 long rests in a row, while it as well can be triggered by first one. That something that i was surprised when i saw, because i had a coin before, in my first playthroug where i got 4th wasll curscene(or at least i think i got it) , and i got all the way to goblins camp and fighted 2 bosses and nothing. With restarts rewalks, it just didnt trigger, till i started spamming long rests for 4th wall trigger check. Wanted to at least trigger soul coin, which i did. If anything it can be insanely rare no requarments curscene, For now i didnt see any preventions of 4th wall curscene or requarments in code.

[@OdysseusKing]

@@purplepenguin43 Nah, it's just liars lying. All the people playing this game, all over the internet, for hundreds upon hundreds of hours since release, and somehow, not ONE of them captured this scene? And then suddenly, after Chubblot's video, cockroaches come out in droves to opine how they "totally got that scene, didn't think it was a big deal, and just never mentioned it on the internet until now"? Spare me the insult to my intelligence. Predictably, the roaches all scurried under the fridge the moment Proxy turned the light on. The bounty was easy money, and this is a popular game. Bye bye myth.

[@kevinwells9751]

To deal with the lag of having zombie corpses littered around you could just pick them up and send them to camp

[@caffienatedtactician]

4:45 maybe the ranger's spider looks very polite 😂

[@themthew638]

Activated the SouthPark boar strat xD

[@IsilionNELE]

you have the patience of a saint! Great video, as always

[@TheSpudKing]

Oh, that's some nice knowledge here bro! :) nice vid!

[@solohonour]

Potato king!

[@duncaneigg8819]

I’ve wondered about myth 1 for the sole reason of getting an oath breaker to level 12 and casting control undead on Ketheric or Myrkul. Thanks for confirming it’s not feasible.

[@RoninJeremy]

LOL, why are people building walls for the portal fight? darkness is much less of a chore ...

[@Ninjapizza8247]

Not only have i experienced a door blocking my path, I've even experienced an open door blocking my path

[@nodforkiss]

i have more failsafes for you to find. its mainly about gather your allies action. silver harp squadron harper replacement (if they die in act2) nine fingers bodyguards, what happens if all of them are dead and you use guildmaster keene's fixers?

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Are you from the wiki discord? I saw that posted someone was looking for that in there recently.

[@nodforkiss]

@@ProxyGateTactician yup that was me

[@ProxyGateTactician]

@@nodforkiss I check there frequently to find things to share 😂 I’ve got ideas for my next failsafe video already set. Didn’t include the ones you posted, but I’ll check them sometime and see if there’s anyone interesting. I’d assume they’re just generic npcs though but no clue

[@Fenric859]

yo just want to say i think you are on of the few people that i watch every single video they have made, i dont know how they are all so entertaining but they are please never stop making them they are amazing

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Thanks for that :) I'll try! I've got a huge list of videos still to make for bg3 at least

[@collectorsalmanac]

I wonder if its something to do with Karlach's Affinity or Stats. Maybe maxing out Intelligence and Affinity.

[@Alucard2356]

My favorite thing to do with the portal defense is just to make a maze out of crates and barrels and have it be a race to see if they'll make it or not. They normally don't attack crates as long as there's a viable path to where they're going, from my experience

[@Misaka_9982]

Cartman That's why we just need to log in and stay in the forest, killing boars. Kyle Boars? Cartman There's lots of computer-generated boars in Warcraft that die with just one blow. Kyle Dude, boars are only worth two experience points apiece. Do you know how many we would have to kill to get up 30 levels? Cartman Yes. Sixty-five million three hundred and forty thousand two hundred and eighty five. Which should take us seven weeks five days thirteen hours and twenty minutes, giving ourselves three hours a night to sleep. What do you say, guys?

[@dorithegreat6155]

Fun fact: you can shoot arrows through many obstacles in bg3, but you can't throw weapons through most, which is one of the two reasons I find thrower builds annoying, despite them being mechanically amazing

[@jackwriter1908]

The Peacock Law... I love that Law for the name alone 😂

[@kingofgrim4761]

Based on the (probable lies) from others, my best guess for the karlach cutscene would be directly after loading a save, and talking to her. Almost nothing else matches up for how they would’ve triggered it, since some said bad approval some said relationship, but most said act 3 I’ve seen

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Still surprised not one person has posted a video of it still. I expected I would be paying it out within a week

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@ProxyGateTactician yeah it’s sad that so many lied about it. Once I have access to my bg3 I might try a few things to attempt it, but I know for sure I never seen it in all my playthroughs

[@korakys]

You did an XP gathering test, awesome! That's some real dedication to do it twice, bravo.

[@MrLightlike78]

The barrel trick is also very useful for breaking people out of moonrise prison- Line of sight is a powerful tool in your kit.

[@Menthalol]

Love your content ! Please make more

[@sydrah2]

Hey so I know the bounty is closed and it’s been 4 months but I’ve gotten the karlach cutscene organically. It was on my first playthrough on console before the mods patch. Her affinity was high since I was romancing her, and we had just gotten to the city. I think it’s heavily dependent on her affinity, rather than location. I also exhausted every dialogue I could get with her, and I do remember it was after act 1. I’ll do another playthroygh to see if I can trigger it again, so give me a few weeks

[@tieltrooper]

Your dedication is so impressive!

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Thanks! I try

[@abaxoth1488]

I could've swear that i triggered the Karlach cutscene some around 1 year ago in act 3 just completely randomly hovering her interaction options. I mean it probably IS random, because to assume so many people would lie or give misleading information on purpose is rather redundant. As mister Occam would have asked "To what end/What for?"

[@MelchiorVA]

I was screen sharing the Karlach scene. It was outside the goblin camp after having killed them and wanting to move to the underdark. I opened my flyer menu and had nothing upgraded. Then I saw an ''!'' above Karlach I don't know what I did but she did not break the 4th wall for me but instead talked about something else. About how it feels familiar. Pretty short scene. My sister (who'm I was screensharing to) told me to reload the file and pick a different option. I reloaded the file back to after having just defeated the goblins and nope. It wasn't there anymore. I walked to the same bridge and did the same menu things. So then I watched on google.

[@exosproudmamabear558]

Reachin level 5 is easy as long as you wipe out goblins from map and opening full map and do the quest you can get to level 5. I didnt even went to underdark yet I still have stuff to kill like some goblins in blighted town and zhentarim after reaching level 5 so I probably will see level 6 or 7 but level 11 thats something metal

[@korakys]

Barrels rule, crates drool! (Was also reminded of the hidden third monk subclass's ability to make impassable blocks that you detailed in an earlier video.)

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yeah Shaping the ice also blocks stuff, but lasting only 10 turns makes it frustrating to use lol. Still one of my fav abilities of all time.

[@dakotataylor993]

The myth of hitting max level probably comes from the now patched issue of being able to claim xp from killing enemies you’ve already persuaded to not be aggressive. This was triggered when you persuaded them and then closed and opened the game. I was almost level 9 going into act 2 because of unintentionally doing this.

[@LanaPubzz]

im on xbox and ive had the Karlach 4th wall pop up randomly when doing her romance

[@expepem189xl3]

Any clues to it? Like specific items or anything else? Any interesting tradition or spell casted on you or her? I had that blue flame casted while talked to her in closest to 4th wall save. Had been using it for a while there, by what i found it might be partially just random. Because Soul Coin can just not trigger when you leave camp.

[@tinypro1326]

Me too, don’t know what these guys are yapping about impossible. Ive had it in act 3 in my first playthrough on series x. 100% certain. Also did romance karlach so idk if that has anything to do with it

[@ggyyvve7895]

Did you see that post on r/bg3 where someone got to level 12 before the end of act 2? They did it by using two player characters to gain a ton of xp from recruiting minthara (lvl6) as soon as possible, making use of the mechanic where a character joining the active party gets the same xp number as the highest current member. They also used the same mechanic to maximize inspiration xp, and they delayed certain points of exploration xp until they were lvl 11.

[@slain_samuraii366]

I swear I remember getting the Karlach cutscene! She says something about knowing a special technique to tell truths and lies then she makes eye contact and asks for your name, but she means your real name! I think it’s right when you meet her!!

[@ProxyGateTactician]

That's the right one. No one knows the trigger if it does exist, and no one ever mentioned it online until after Chublot's video. Did you possibly see his video or you had it yourself for sure?

[@ThishandlefeatureISdumb]

@@ProxyGateTactician I saw it as well, pretty sure it was act1. 100% sure I saw it and not some video since I purposely avoided all videos as to avoid spoilers since it was my first play-through. I don’t remember much besides thinking it was neat and strange. Didn’t even realize it’s a supposed rare event. And no I haven’t seen her in another playthroughs since I haven’t played another one.

[@slain_samuraii366]

@@ProxyGateTactician I didn’t watch any videos on the game until after I had completed my third playthrough, which was fairly recently so I think I had it myself? I bought the game when it released too. It’s possible I saw a clip of it on TikTok or something tho and am mixing it up with my own play through. I’ll hop back in tomorrow and see if I can figure it out

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@slain_samuraii366I wish you luck, it’s $500 for ya if you can don’t forget

[@jackwriter1908]

​@@ProxyGateTactician I wouldn't be surprised if it was some kind of glitch, that is already fixed... especially with every new patch coming out, it could have been a small change between one patch and the next... If that were the case it would be impossible now to proof it unless you get the game at all the different stages, including early access (if Karlach was already in early access) and then you would have to rifle through every possible dialogue option with every character to ensure that nothing could have triggered it, that also includes of course the possibility of killing specific characters or avoiding killing specific characters... I personally believe that the Fourth Wall Breaking was an idea that was put into the game in case you use F5/F8 too often in a conversation with her or let her wait too long (similary to how in Far Cry certain thing sget triggered if you wait too long without doing anything). That could also explain why they said you can't get the cutscene if they just Obi-Wan Kenobi it with the _from a certain point of view_ with saying something like "we meant that if you play the game normally you couldn't trigger it" or something like that. By now they could have changed that with patches... or ghey just wanted to mess with us and put it into the game for the people who have nothing better to do then to datamine... 😂

[@siarametanal4317]

As i grew up watching Mythbusters, seeing your video about BG3 made it extra fun!

[@gumballz.9259]

About the if the dragonborn (or githyanki) poop: the answer is likely yet and their dialogue is mostly just a joke.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Oh I know lol. Just making fun of that ridiculous article I found

[@godlygamer911]

No shit Sherlock

[@chillax319]

Unless we count gith in the Astral. I don't think they need to eat, drink or sleep there at all. Plenty of biological functions is suspended while in there.

[@aGreatBigBee]

I got the Karlach cutscene on my first playthrough, I think after patch 1 had dropped. No mods, no idea what triggered it, I didn't even realise it was easter egg at the time. Pretty sure I was in act 3 at the time.

[@rom26ik]

Damn, that bounty is gonna make me put another 1000 hours into the game

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Good luck! Excited to see a lot of people searching now

[@geoffchurchill5492]

Karlach breaks my heart as we go through Act3

[@PenguinPoo4246]

I will watch this as soon as I’m done with Shadows of the Erdtree

[@gipsymelody1268]

Deffinitly level 10 is the max in act 2 without any breaking the game! I did every quest and enemy fights. But not attacked friendly and story npcs

[@fyzxnerd]

Behold the power of Barrelmancy!!!

[@Buff_Papa_Smurf]

I once got a dialouge option near the docks in act 3 where you save volo that made karlach give a glance to the camera and make a deadpool style joke, i thought that was what you refered to and after watching a youtube video i have been left heavily creeped out.

[@bronga645]

my man, you are a real one.

[@Budder2]

I’m pretty sure in one of the patches, they made it so summons and class companions don’t trigger guards following because many players found it annoying… don’t know if I’m remembering right, but it sounds vaguely familiar

[@ProxyGateTactician]

You’re right at launch everyone used to run away from bears and stuff and it was annoying lol

[@alexanderbaldwin9916]

I didn't use mods or anything in my first 3 runs, and I wasn't watching videos about the game to avoid spoilers, and I am almost sure that I got Karlach saying that randomly in camp during act 3... but I can't remember which playthrough. On second thought, maybe Mandela Effect.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yeah im curious if it's Mandela or not tbh. It's exciting people are looking now though. Speedrunner discord jumped on it

[@alexanderbaldwin9916]

@ProxyGateTactician Spoke with my wife. I told her about it but didn't show her a video. That means I definitely didn't watch a video about it, or I would have sent it to her. There's no way I would have seen a KZbin video of it and not sent it to her or brought my phone over to show it to her. I am, like, 90% sure it can be triggered. I'll try to fiddle with things and document what I do. My first three runs were as a 1) Tav dating Shadowheart because she is a princess but I was best friends with Karlach. She said she wanted to be a mindflayer as the only solution to her problem 2) Karlach dating Wyll, and then Wyll broke up with me, I refused to be a mindflayer or go to the hells, so I perished, and 3) as a Tav dating Karlach and went to the hells with her. I'm pretty sure it wasn't in my first run, because I'm pretty sure I said "wow, I can't believe there is even more content" when I saw the scene. So one of those must have had the trigger. Gotta be. Unless I am actually just extremely Mandela'd.

[@ScarlettRose-v5g]

That peacock law might be my favorite detail in the game

[@leivaslt666]

10:00 this portal protection was trivialized after i found out we could just cover it with Darkness

[@xunfrayxunfray1482]

Having a lot of summons also makes it easy as it is mostly a swarm of low level enemies.

[@jaemisu]

5:45 for a good barrel wall on that fight you only need 21, which can all be found at last light

[@markopusic8258]

And I thought it was already tedious to get level 9 by the end of act 2... something I always do on HM so I get access to 5th level spells against Myrkul. And you're telling me that not only can you reach level 10 which I thought conceivable but really hard due to the amount of murder hoboing you'd have to do, you can reach level ELEVEN?

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yeah about half way to level 12 even, and I know I missed a few things. For example Rolan never showed up in my act 2 even though he was alive. I guess knocking him out during act 1bugged him? I also missed 10xp off a door in Act 1 but couldn't be bothered to reload several hours for that. There's a certain door you get 10 xp for breaking it, but if you unlock it you get 0 xp

[@valerien3798]

I smoke while I play BG3 and if I got the karlach third wall break cutscene I think that would kill me

[@AlanSmith88888]

You da real mvp 🫡

[@chanm01]

Okay, the Karlach cutscene thing is interesting, but the peacock law is _amazing_ . 🤣

[@jadesession959]

I’m weirdly awake when this got uploaded- cool!

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yeah lol I live in Asia so my upload times are quite strange for the rest of the world.

[@korakys]

@@ProxyGateTactician ah, that explains it! I live in New Zealand, which has a very depopulated timezone, but your videos come out at just the right time for me. Half or more of the channels I sub to release around 4am my time. I always assumed it's something to do with ad revenue optimisation for the US market.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

@@korakys Been living in South Korea so i can frequent watching Starcraft games live lmao Got my tickets for next week already

[@bingonight1504]

​@@ProxyGateTacticianyou're living the dream

[@Haloman2900]

The Karlach wall break gives me Detroit: Become Human vibes from the main screen on that game. Karlach asking questions to the player specifically is almost unsettling...

[@Leongon]

In the game the scene is offputting, but Karlach eases you into it first, she tells you that she wants to try something weird but harmless, and them BAM she's looking right at you asking you weird questions.

[@MorganaEvelyn]

Is there anything barrelmancy can't solve? 🥰

[@WritingRave]

So, for the level 12 bit, there's a lot of silly ways to get free xp. Like blowing up the running gith in that room, even some encounters can give almost double xp due to enemies that run still giving xp. Just a ton of funny stuff

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Oh yeah I grabbed those as well. Since doing this video I’ve probably found another 500xp I missed during that run, but it’s anywhere still nowhere near enough.

[@naivety]

Not letting Scratch inside is insane. That's it, I'm killing Gortash every time now.

[@willowman6938]

absolute mad man uploads this video a couple of days after I start my work on spreadsheet tracking all the xp sources in the game. I'm not mad, but relieved. However, I can't let the job go unfinished so I'm continuing it anyway.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

I’ll be interested in comparing if yours is around the same as the numbers I had then. I’m sure there’s a couple things I missed. Like knocking out Rolan in act 1 messed up his quest line during act 2. It didn’t mess up anyone else

[@willowman6938]

@@ProxyGateTactician I'm getting there as far as totals go, and doing some napkin maths I'm around the same number you're at. But at this point I think the discrepancy is so small that if we did everything perfectly you wouldn't be able to hit level 12 by the end of act 2. But at the very least you'd hit level 11 comfortably even if you're not doing anything weird or killing Raphael or Oathbreaker Knight. I'm still cataloguing act 2 but when I'm done I can give some concrete numbers.

[@willowman6938]

a week later update. I've counted a possible 26,000ish (this number can be higher since I know that I've missed stuff) xp to be had in act 1. So if there's 74000 xp to be had in act 2, then we can safely say that it's plausible to reach level 12 by the end of act 2. I'm still tallying act 2 but where I'm at with my notes I'm around level 9 with a decent chunk of the act left. I will update again when I reach a definitive total.

[@ProxyGateTactician]

@@willowman6938 26,000 in act 1 isn't even level 8 is it? I thought it's 30k for level 8. I had about 36,000 at end of act 1 I'm pretty sure (unless I'm making some mistake now?)

[@willowman6938]

@@ProxyGateTactician it's 4k off from level 8. But I know that I've missed a handful of quests simply because I was either locked out of them or I just forgot. Half of Emerald Grove I missed quest-wise because of this and other reasons, chief of which was that I was tallying xp under the assumption that you're killing everything in sight with few quests done. I can say now that it's not very efficient but doing it can get you very close to level 8, but really what you want to do is as many quests as possible as well as killing stuff but only if they aren't tied to later quests.

[@GabbyJFS_02]

I’m wondering if perhaps Karlach’s scene was an early access thing? I wish I had been around for early access but I didn’t even find out about the game until late 2022, and I’m a console peasant so only got the game in March of this year. But I know there were a LOT of things changed so that could be it? Although the cutscene itself looks very polished for EA. Idk. Great vid as always though, appreciate your dedication to busting these myths!

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Karlach wasn't recruitable during early access. So it wouldn't be that.

[@GabbyJFS_02]

Ah gotcha. Then yeah, it’s probably cut content. Would be cool if they included it still but at least we can see what it would’ve been. Just another thing Karlach had taken from her in terms of content unfortunately.

[@theredeyther7502]

I’m probably thinking way too far into this but whatever. The guards could still be attacking the large animals because they know that the only way to make animals that small is through magical means that would ware off eventually, which would violate the peacock rule. This also goes for making the animals larger as well. As for the dog it could be reasonably for the guards to believe the dog was normally that size as in real life and DND dogs grow to different sizes depending on the bread.

[@HerikaNolotea]

I clearly remember triggering the karlach 4th wall in my first game... All i did was talk to her and she asked how was i, that did it... idk

[@expepem189xl3]

Same stuff, happen ~5 month ago i think.

[@iamerror1699]

Dejavu.

[@Leongon]

Same, got it like 5 or 6 months ago in a playthrough. She was like "hey soldier I wanna try this weird experiment thing I'm not super good at it but it's cool wanna help me out?" and then she was talking right to me.

[@expepem189xl3]

@@Leongon Yeah same thing as i remember, but i did had like on a comment in video that 9 month ago with this dialogue. They didnt choise all the answer as i would. And text is in different color, but i might have been mistaken. However. Based on the fact that code actually only has comment that says its impossible to get this, it doesnt mean it is. There is quite a lot of old stupid commentarys all the way throw code. It worth while to try it. Sadly i dont know what the language it is. And its looking like it involves random and other flags that we need to find out.

[@MirOmran]

Barrels being just as useful for defense is a great thing to know

[@jekkin8972]

Wait bro is that music from StarCraft. Hold up

[@jekkin8972]

It's the Terran music from the campaign, yes sirrrrr

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yep!

[@jekkin8972]

@@ProxyGateTactician it's certainly old but it's gotta be one of the better games from the past and definitely one of the best games blizzard has released. (We need number 3)

[@desdas5393]

if you do all quests following all your party character quest you reach act 3 at level 12, i was lvl 12 at shar temple

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Only was possible during the first patch when there was a bug that was possible to double-dip in XP from areas when you save->reload the game. It's been patched a for a long time now

[@iktgeorge1375]

What if the Karlach scene is from the Origin section where you play as her, as far as I know she's the only one who speaks when playing as her.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

Idk if its been patched but knocking out minthara gives 15xp and long reating before turning the quest into Halsin will have her wake up. It used to be that every time you knocked her out, you got 15xp, and you could do it infinitely, idk if it still works.

[@Hedonophobia]

I had the Karlach cut scene in I think act 3. I talk to all companions after bigger missions to see if they have anything to say. I just remember it being some existential conversation that turned into that scene. It made me laugh. I didn't think it was something not many people have seen.

[@DualEyedMonty]

She did it in act one. I just talked to her a few times and she asked if I wanted to see a trick she had.

[@Dome665]

Wait, people are still looking for this? 👀

[@ProxyGateTactician]

Yep. Had a lot of people try many different things and still no one claimed the bounty

[@Dome665]

@@ProxyGateTactician Nice 👀 will look through my saves 😅

[@Dome665]

​@@ProxyGateTactician my main issue is that I don't remember where it was 😅 But I remember talking to Karlach, and she mentioned something along "eyes are the windows to the soul" then she asked to look into mine aka Tavs eye's. That's the trigger.. But since I don't remember where it was, I don't remember if I needed to do something for it

[@expepem189xl3]

@@Dome665 I remember having that {!} pop out , somewhere near paladins of tyr , either before or right after, on lower part of the map. I am already unsure if thats true, but might be helpfull in some way. Also based on what i got from my triggering of Soul Coin, it may be parially luck dependant. Would love to hear more about Soul Coin talk tho.

[@Dome665]

@@expepem189xl3 Of there are soul coins involved, then you should use non, that's what I did