I Can't Believe I Forgot About Dishonored

[@Fizhy]

A game in which you can clear your name when falsely accused of murder by committing... murder.

[@blueripper1558]

I mean as they say, it's still stealth if nobody is alive to alert

[@Fizhy]

@@blueripper1558 the ultimate form of stealth

[@gun_violence_gaming]

This game's art style reminded me of that of BioShock, which reminded me that I desperately need a BioShock reboot

[@DarkSeraph95]

Murder is okay

[@Manic_player]

Make sense to me how can anyone accuse you of murder if you've murdered the people who have accused you

[@Brickbroslegosrule]

Corvo signing his name does actually have a little follow up, where in the lord regent mission, a letter can be found in the lord regent’s chambers that mentions it.

[@Fizhy]

oh damn, no idea how I missed that but it is Dishonored.

[@kiyawilson3520]

The first time I played dishonored, i ran through the game mindlessly killing. It wasn't until my final boat ride with Samuel when he told me how vile I was that it began to sink in. I pushed through and finished the game only to be told that Emily basically didn't have kingdom to rule anymore because of me. That was the first time lil teenage me had a mental click of "even the actions I think little of have consequences and I will be held accountable " The pit in my stomach was immeasurable, considering I used games to escape reality, not to question my morals or actions, but the fiery love bubbled more vastly than I had ever felt before. Dishonored made me able to appreciate the depth and nuisances of games like undertale, fnv, etc Thank you so much for talking about such a wonderful game :))

[@TheFonzieCommunity]

did you ever play it again for the mild, and good ending? it must be satisfactory to be non lethal.

[@seeinred]

How wonderful. To me that moment was in old game Enclave. Where i found out that the princess i've kidnapped playing evil campaign, was, well, used to summon the demon who then devoured her to remain in the realm. That was a bit too much for 12 y.o. me.

[@kiyawilson3520]

@@TheFonzieCommunity Yes, I immediately reran it. It's also one of the games I revisit every year or so :)

[@duckfoot6131]

I know people gripe about the game giving you all these awesome methods of killing and then daring you not to use them, but for me, the stealthy approach is much more satisfying than the chaotic one. I feel a lot more accomplished when I successfully carry out a mission and leave guards none the wiser than I do when I leave a pile of corpses in my wake.

[@ladypeahen8829]

If there was no temptation to use all tools and magic, it would be a very simplistic choice to play the "good guy". I love the urge to use all the magic options and choose not to do that. They made everything so much easier, but some were lethal, and the "just a human" playthrough was also satisfying. And also urges to not kill anyone and see most of them are horrible persons, or the non-lethal option is worse than death.

[@Sivanot]

I saw someone I'm another video describe Dishonored as an answer to the question of "Who are you when nobody can stop you?" While yes, Corvo can be killed by even a bunch of rats, I don't think anyone genuinely thinks Corvo would get taken down even if he casually sauntered through every area without a care as a power move. It makes the decision of choosing to not harm anybody, to not even disturb anyone until they wake up the next morning, so much more impactful in my eyes.

[@golentan]

Also you learn so much more about the world and the people in it

[@Rickyguy451]

The whole "wanting to start right again" thing is EXACTLY what I experienced when playing Dishonored. I finished the campaign after murdering almost everyone I came across and then got hit with a bad ending. It left me wanting to see what I could do different immediately.

[@crimsonking440]

I didn't even get to the bad ending. I got a scene where Emily drew a really fuckin crazy picture and I realized I wasnt just making the world terrible I was actively traumatizing a little girl and had to restart right there.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

Keep it a buck fiddy wit ya chief, the bad ending is significantly more dramatic and fitting to the game. It's just... So much better thematically and gameplay wise.

[@cjallenroxs6239]

@@WhenDevilsDuelnah that’s just you

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

@@cjallenroxs6239 it's actually not. I didn't think so until watching a video about it.

[@cjallenroxs6239]

@@WhenDevilsDuel well just you 2 then freak

[@LeThougLiphe]

I played this game on 2016 when I was 15 years old, with almost no video game experience. I spent 12 hours non stop on the very first level. Thinking back, it really felt and still does, like a physics lab. Been meaning to replay Dishonored for a while now, but life got in the way unfortunately. Hope I get some time during summer. Thank you for bringing attention to a game where few things can limit your experience besides your imagination.

[@Fizhy]

My pleasure!

[@Zyskr..]

weepers minds are intact though, they don't even mean to attack.. most of them atleast they're just trying to beg for help but they can't even talk without spitting blood the proof is in a low chaos run, where at the end you can see them orderly line up for the cure

[@Cunaverse]

Dishonored has my favourite tutorial of any gave I've played, it's one of my favourite immersive sims so I'm excited to see your vid on it

[@pbnw]

Hope such a masterpiece gets it’s deserved attention.

[@Fizhy]

It's quite fondly remembered by the looks of it.

[@ghostwarrior3878]

Unless that's a joke, they sorta did, With Dishonored Definitive Edition, what I'm wondering is if they made a Dishonored 2 Definitive Edition​@@Volti-Vagra

[@clermington1861]

@@Fizhy Microsoft did shut the studio down

[@MudriaV]

​@@clermington1861 They shut down the Arcane Branch in Texas, Arcane Lyon is still operational. And it is likely that the Creative Director Harvey Smith will return to that team.

[@MudriaV]

​@@clermington1861 also the couple of studios that were shut down by Microsoft recently were all in one building, from what I've heard a lot of the devs just moved down the hallway to other MC owned studios.

[@ghostwarrior3878]

I got into this game more then a couple of years ago, around late 2016, I tried to kill only the main targets the first time so I went for a low chaos, to this day I am still never done a high chaos run, maybe now is a time to try that after seeing this video. Would highly recommend playing the Knife of Dunwall DLC especially if you have the Dishonored Definitive Edition, you get to play as Daud, and it's basically his side of the story..

[@Dragonmistress83]

I was blown away when I first played this game. Also the art style drew me in and I sorta like being sneaky sneaky. Still need to complete some archiements like the one not upgrading ANY supernatural powers.

[@joseybryant7577]

I love how the entire thing starts by sheer coincidence. Corvo just returned earlier than expected. If his ship had been delayed even by three or so days, things could have been very different

[@georgejoy7635]

Never been this quick to your videos, this is one of my FAVOURITE game franchise, wish they implemented similar spellcraft and stealth in other Bethesda titles

[@Fizhy]

It's a brilliant game, the first one. Yet to dive into its DLC so I'll do a video on those in the near future and then I'll jump into 2.

[@strainedOS]

I started the series with the second game but i went back to play the first, its such an incredible game with such a deep strange lore that I could just swim in it. The second game + its dlc are just incredible, death of the outsider is gorgeous.

[@GTAVictor9128]

The plot of The Witcher 2 actually has the same exact premise as Dishonored: where Geralt was a kingsguard responsible for safeguarding the king from another witcher-turned-assassin, yet gets framed for the assassination and had to explain his story while interrogated to clear his name.

[@AppleBritters]

Dishonored is stillone of my favorite games. I definitely recommend the Daud DLC stories, and Dishonored 2. Dishonored 2 has some of the absolute best level design I've seen in a game

[@gracefulcupid838]

the dishonored series is honestly one of my favourite game series (maybe of fav all time) really hope we see a dishonored 3 😭 not looking likely tho

[@lukashansen4945]

After playing the entire base game, I nearly got a heart attack while playing the DLC: Brigmore Witches and suddenly having to fight Corvo and then realising how terrifying the player actually is when in combat

[@Person-kc3dj]

And that's not even us. It's a watered down version. Imagine fighting a corvo that shot you with the crossbow in a split second, hit you with grenades, sticky or not, summoned swarms on you, blasted you with wind...

[@westonowens4151]

such a classic didn’t get it when i was younger but recently got back into it such a good play through

[@Fizhy]

I'm the exact same, I think understanding Dishonored comes to many over time.

[@Gnome10]

He also goes by S.T. Boatman, in his bestselling novel about boat maintenance.

[@camelliasinensistea9410]

FINALLY. Someone who loves the game I love.

[@theneounknown1343]

Honestly, because the game is meant to be played in a stealth genre, I decided to play it the way it was meant to be played. But we all know it's an immersive sim. Creavity and judgement on your next move, be it stealth or combat or perhaps both on one playthrough. And you can save as much as you want if you want to obtain a perfect rating with no detection, alarms or kills. Less killing means a good ending. Even in the case of your main targets in each mission, which can get you rewards should you bring your targets down non lethally, that's as if you complete the side quests/secondary objectives.

[@sup1602]

I remember preordering this game for the 360 at my colleges tech store back in 2012 thinking that there has been no good Victorian era/steam punk game before. Played though it in one or two nights frogoing studying and was completely enraptured by the city of Dunwall.

[@Fizhy]

Apparently it’s more dieselpunk, which is a new word to me.

[@Alexson_Mamed]

This game lore is extremamely rich, I hope you get to enjoy it and then come back with some videos about it. Especially when it comes to this game timeline between Corvo and Daud's story and their consequences

[@Fizhy]

Yet to dive into the DLC so I'll do those in a separate video at least, then do 2 as I've never played it.

[@DENDOG.]

I am Corvo..... I do as I do so fear my madness and feel my funk. BLINK!

[@Mr.Unfair]

Dishonored, its DLC, sequal, spinoff, and sister game Prey, are all criminally underrated games i love Arkane and hope blade is the return to form they are eluding it to be

[@Sivanot]

I saw someone in another video describe Dishonored as an answer to the question of "Who are you when nobody can stop you?" While yes, Corvo can be killed by even a bunch of rats, I don't think anyone genuinely thinks Corvo would get taken down even if he casually sauntered through every area without a care as a power move. It makes the decision of choosing to not harm anybody, to not even disturb anyone until they wake up the next morning, so much more impactful in my eyes.

[@TheHiddenOne690]

Masterpiece of a game!

[@Fizhy]

Definitely!

[@CMW003]

Always loved this game, always tend to go for stealth playthroughs regardless of chaos level. I think the dlc for the game has really good level design too tbh, and though I've still never beaten the second game I think it's quite good too. Great video as well of course

[@Fizhy]

Thank you kindly!

[@NotUlpoadingAnything]

Samuel (Beechworth) the Boatman is one of my top favorite characters in this game, alongside Granny Rags, Slackjaw, and (mainly because of the dlcs) Daud.

[@zjay]

Easily one of my favorite games ever and i think i love the expansions even more, really hope you do a video on them

[@fendrikdrake3320]

I love playing and replaying dishonoured just because everytime I start a mission I find another way through the mission or to the objective that I didn't know before. Also the world and art direction is just so unique and awesome.

[@gianttigerfilms]

Dishonored is one of my favorite games, up there with Skyrim and assassin's creed 2

[@kilomillensimus9379]

Not only do I want Dishonored 2 content from you because I think your insight into the fantasy of the series would be good, I want you to cover the DLC of this next! It's easily overlooked, but I thought it was clear they put a lot into it. As you go through this series, I hope you will enjoy playing your way, but I hope look up the alternate endings you can get too. They inspire a lot of debate for a reason.

[@7Nine7]

Got the game on release day. Played it a year before on gamescom and fell in love instantly.

[@Marksman3434]

I recently played the entire series for the first time, and I loved it. Rich world building, a lovely art style, an intriguing plot, compelling characters, great gameplay that allows for a good amount of choice and freedom, all mixed with a steampunk fantasy setting. Really wish that Arkane continue it, even if the overarching arc started in the first game came to a decent conclusion in Death of the Outsider. Since the Void is still there, I think there's plenty of room for more compelling stories to tell.

[@MrBfg586]

Ive always loved the art direction so I decided to look up who was responsible and Viktor Antonov work on it. He worked with Valve on Half Life 2 and Lost Coast. Also, Cédric Peyravernay did the character concept art. He work on "Love Death and Robots---Sonnie's Edge---Ep01"

[@metronicmagician1816]

I had picked this game up when it was released, but only got around to finishing it recently a few years back. I naturally lean towards true stealth in these kinds of game, and had made several attempts to finishing it (I really enjoyed the game, but sometimes I just drop a game which I can’t pick up without completely replaying it cause I’d just be lost). Each time I was playing roughly as a stealth assassin where I’d kill, but only my targets/when I needed to. For some reason my last play through I decided to do a ghost clean hands run which was one hell of a choice. Now I had gotten to the last 2 chapters every time I played so I knew the game enough to actually do this without much resetting, but the game was just so vastly different, and especially that later half. I had always had medium (or even high earlier on) chaos so going through those levels with low chaos was completely different. Legitimately loved the idea of showing off to Dag by stealing his coin purse instead of fighting him. Oh also here’s a little perspective on how big and eldritch this world is. So dunwall is a small city on a small island in a small country. Now I say this fully knowing that Dunwall is a massive city, but as it stands in the world it is a tiny speck comparatively. Think of it as England vs the rest of the word, and that’s just the civilized side of this planet. Basically there’s an entire landmass that dwarfs all countries in this world combined. Dunwall is just a tiny island in this civilization which just make you realize how utterly small you are to this land mass that is uncharted, and uninhabitable to humans. It’s even theorized that this place is the home of the magic this world has. From the stranger to granny, it all hypothetically stems from there.

[@katrichardsonwriter]

Dang, man. I love this game and you've put your finger on the thing that's made me play it 5 times, plus all the DLCs, D2, and Death of the Outsider. It's rich and it changes with your decisions in ways that are compelling and thought-provoking. It's a game that tempts you to scour the every map and every situation for all the lore you can get and it's easy to see its relationship to Thief: The Dark Project in that. Thank you for reminding me of how deep this game is. The other games are also brilliant and I really regret that there won't be more from this particular crew. Though I admit, if I were the Queen of Games, I'd round up the Arkane crew to make the Deus Ex games we didn't get, as well as giving them back Dunwall. They deserved better.

[@Manic_player]

I personally never played dishonoured one but I did play Dishonored 2 thought the game was great. Can't wait to watch the rest of this review

[@Esifex]

If you haven’t by now, HIGHLY recommend Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches before moving into Dishonored 2. I wouldn’t call it required reading but it’s definitely good extra-curricular material that expertly expands the worldbuilding.

[@greven8553]

I've never watched a youtuber that has impressed me with the script writing until i watched your channel.

[@Fizhy]

I’m a bullet points man.

[@bramv7174]

Dishonored 1 is probably the game I have finished the most and bought the most. on PS3, PS4 and PC

[@Fizhy]

Understandably

[@TheMoonShepard]

I've completed this game without killing anyone, that was an incredibly satisfying experience, did the same with the sequel and Deus Ex Mankind Divided.

[@IMJipps]

23:20 Signing the book will make sure that in the next mission it will be mentioned in a note to the lord regent.

[@nemesisofeden]

Turns out if you upgrade Blink twice. You DONT get the achievement for no upgrades to abilities achievement. I did that as well as got the Ghost achievement for not being seen and I chose not to kill anyone. Damn that was a hard playthrough. But worth it!

[@kaldwinkarnaca]

first played 8 years ago, still replaying it to this day, stands as my favorite game even after all these years

[@Victoria-vd2li]

happy to see this great series getting some attention!

[@consolescrub4031]

Obligatory mention of StealthgamerBR if anyone wants to see just what can be done with the game's mechanics (and the sequels) in a lethal playthrough.

[@annaw6628]

I first played dishonored when I was 7 or so without any supervision on an xbox 360, and i loved it to bits, but hated the high chaos ending i got. years later coming back to it, the stealth is a pain in the ass sometimes, but i really appreciate all the details and nuances i can fully understand now😭🙏

[@Esoteraeon]

Please make more Dishonored content, especially after you've played the 2nd one and Death of the Outsider! You'll really enjoy it and I'd love to hear your takes on it. All the DLCs are worth it too

[@DENDOG.]

Dishonored is a purely creative and subliminaly sublime wtf masterpiece of game! Truly one for the books! ❤

[@Fizhy]

Yeah I was kicking myself playing it wondering how I didn't understand its purpose all those years ago.

[@arthurcarlyle7263]

I've probably played this series more than any other. Clean Hands Ghost playthroughs are the best. Also, (perhaps an unpopular opinion) I think the second game is the best.

[@Mr-Rinn]

I’d really like to hear your opinions on the DLCs. I really enjoyed playing as Daud on Low Chaos.

[@Kevinlynxdabest]

Dishonored my beloved

[@SleeperGuy23]

I WANT TO GIVE IT ANOTHER GO WHEN I START A NEW GAME. I TOO HAVE TRIED IT A COUPLE TIMES AND DROPPED OFF BUT THIS HELPED TO SPARK INTEREST IN IT.

[@Burnout_Kustoms]

I feel like this game is like an undertale, apologies it’s the first game that came to mind that encourages mercy. It’s a game that gives you a dynamic and vastly different experience depending on your bloodlust.

[@guy_autordie]

First playthrough: the angry corvo. Then the end hits with samuel saying his thing. Second playthrough: way less killing, still end up in high chaos. Fuck. Third or fourth one ending up in low chaos. I learned yesterday 06 july 2024, that Emily could fall with haverlock in high chaos. So that's a third ending.

[@skimaskrick]

2 minutes in and I already know this is gonna be a banger 🔥🔥

[@Fizhy]

[@PaulRudd1941]

Dude, I have no idea how you keep making so many high-quality, sentimental, and funny video game reviews and history documentaries. Keep up the amazing work, sir.

[@Fizhy]

Yes sir, I'm already hard at work on the next one!

[@PaulRudd1941]

@Fizhy what a gangster. Don't burn out man. We love your quality. ❤️

[@Fizhy]

@@PaulRudd1941 I’ve encountered the dreaded burnout a couple times, I know how to handle it ;)

[@icantdoabackflip4029]

It really makes me feel better to know I wasn’t the only person who had trouble getting into this game. But you’ve made me want to give it another go

[@Fizhy]

It's well worth it in my opinion

[@J.CH1ggins]

I want to try to make another KZbin series out of it now honestly

[@adaytoremember592]

Dishonored is one of my favorite games of all time I'd love to see you cover the other entries in the series

[@icklenatzzzzzz]

Watching this made what happened to Arkane all the more heart breaking :(

[@HelFrostKara]

I always thought it was neat to have a morality system (for lack of a better term) that's like a caroll diagram like Stealth Vs Non-Stealth and Lethal Vs Non-Lethal and then which combination of those you wanna go for it. Also great that they actually have meaningful consequences to both story and gameplay. Prey (2017) kinda has a similar thing with whether use only human, alien, both or neither abilities and also whether you kill humans in it but I think that only had narrative consequences iirc (other than the differences to your playstyle). That's a different sort of experience any way even if it's similarly an imsim from Arkane.

[@ThePizzaGoblin]

Sending the pendletons to work in theit own mine implies the youngest brother will keep the same labor practices in place. An early hint

[@cel4787]

Really enjoyed the video it was such a loveley lookback, Arkane actually really knocked it outta the park with the DLCs and 2. I can also highly reccomend PREY too another one of their games, it completley flew under the radar due to some really piss poor marketing, if you still got the dishonored itch after playing the sequels and expansions i HIGHLY recommend checking it out

[@M0N0-M0N0]

I was waiting for this type of video for a while

[@Despondencymusic]

This is the game that Bioshock Infinite should have been.

[@chainjaw8013]

You can say that again.

[@SmitzPNK]

Whats with the new uptick in intrest of the game? I literally redownload the second one last week to finally try a no magic run as Corvo, head cannon Corvo does not want the outsiders mark a second time

[@J.CH1ggins]

Holy fuck fizhy thank you for making a video on this game. Never played a game through so many times in my life

[@zippityzbrake]

cant believe you forgot about whiskey and cigars tonight

[@MrGebeto]

I absolutely love this game. Just played it today and finished it a few hours ago and now I see this video

[@Fizhy]

Oh aye!

[@DarkSeraph95]

it's a shame what happened to Arkane

[@arnoldsmeisters]

24:09 it is not the one in black its always randomised (the colours too)

[@jaderotaski1]

As someone who lives in Burnley I feeL incredibly insulted and called out XD (Joking aside its nice to see my town get a mention even if its negative)

[@protendi]

Best way to play this game is by doing a no kill run. Absolutley no kills in the game, only knocking out and dealing justice by leaving your enimies alive.

[@Greenignitor]

Hope to see more Dishonored content

[@vegardhuse]

Nobody can accuse you of murder if no one is alive

[@Fizhy]

Exactly

[@skitariimoment9596]

I did a low chaos play through but i killed ALL the assassins in the flooded district

[@famsisher9315]

I fucking love Marmite too.

[@gauthamiyer2998]

It’s such a shame it never sold well

[@Fizhy]

It sold alright

[@gauthamiyer2998]

@@Fizhy iirc the first one sold fine and the second one did not which is I guess why they never made a third

[@Fizhy]

@@gauthamiyer2998 yeah I'm led to believe Dishonored 2 didn't do so well.

[@kyddkreature9801]

​@@gauthamiyer2998 They did make a third though... Death of the Outsider. You play as Billie Lurk

[@KaidoKingofthebeasts-ev6zy]

Oh dude i remember playing this is the middle of 2020. Its was erie

[@Sivanot]

I think that the game's decisions for how to handle your targets being such terrible things make sense, honestly. Secluding them asay somewhere theyll never be saved is reslly the only way to achieve the goals you're striving for. That being said, i think the game is asking you, "Was this really worth not just putting them down? Is it better to have utterly ruined a life than to end one?" I personally only neutralize the targets when im trying to get a pacifist ending. I dont think its any worse, its arguably better, to juat kill them. Probably more in character for Corvo too.

[@TheFonzieCommunity]

are you playing dishonored 2? i'd love that!!

[@ComfortsSpecter]

Incredible Near Immaculate Vibe of This Game So Lovely and I’m so Happy I Finally Listened to JT Machinima’s Song of It *7 Years late* Sending Me spiraling down This Dishonored Rabbit Hole I Consumed The Lore, Bought the Game’s on a very Convenient Sale and am playing Them Arkane made an Amazing Half Life contemporary and a Beautiful Artwork The Atmosphere Is Immersive and Fun and Easily hold’s up since 2012 Despite It’s Problems; The Game Casually overtake’s Them with shear Brilliant Tact and Artistic Care Good Work My Great Man I’m Loving how many Actually Fine KZbin Recommends I’ve been getting Recently Like Comically Good Niche finds

[@eazyecoheed16]

Yep, let's dive into the expanisons and the sequel!! 2 is pretty good too.

[@mmkanashiro]

we gonna miss arkane studio

[@zine_eddinex24]

This game is masterpiece to a lot of us and still underrated 😅

[@teyanuputorti7927]

I love to see more of dishonored and especially Dishonored 2

[@Fizhy]

I'll factor it into the list of content to do.

[@teyanuputorti7927]

@@Fizhy thanks fizhy

[@TheUncleRuckus]

All these years later and I still haven't finished it, hell I'm still in the prison mission. 😂 I just can't decide what play style I want to go with. Normally my play style is to go full on sociopath chaotic mode and eliminate all the enemies in a level before exploring every nook and cranny but the game punishes you for that style of gameplay. Which is what frustrates me the most, you get all these unique and cool ways to kill enemies but if you use them it makes the game harder basically punishing you and that's extremely frustrating. Don't get me wrong the whole choice aspect truly affecting the game is definitely a super cool mechanic and the game is really original that's what drew me to it, but between my indecisiveness and being punished for playing the way I normally play I just stopped playing it, so it's just collecting dust along with a bunch of my other ps3 games until I decide to pick it back up.

[@Fizhy]

I recommend for a first playthrough, embrace the bloodbath - then for a second run go non-lethal wherever possible.

[@TheeCambion]

I can't believe, You can't believe you forgot about dishonored.

[@Muhle2]

RIP Arkane. :(

[@MikkiRose129]

Ahhh, the British humour is peak. Makes me feel right at home! 🤣🤣

[@chainjaw8013]

I want to play it forever i love this game!

[@jcuadrado9518]

what do you mean you forgot about dishonored!?!?!? i play that shieet at least once a year every year

[@NotSaintMonica]

I would love to see you play the NieR games

[@HoosierDaddy2a]

You gotta do the sniper elite series next

[@Fizhy]

I’ll add it to the list

[@MonkehMike]

After this video I might just install Dishonored again :)

[@tarkovshmarkov8011]

Think you'll get your own squad after what happened last night?

[@zambekiller]

When you play dishonored you're silently shaking hands with the game an agreement that the game will treat human life the same way you do if you avoid all the guards and only spare/kill the main targets then the game will value the lives you spared but if you don't sneak past the guards but instead cut them down mercilessly then it is truly reflected in the way the game treats life truly it is a masterpiece of story telling. Fuck Dishonored 2 just ruined all of this damnit well at least its an improvement over the gameplay of the last game if a bit janky with the detection yes I still call bullshit that a guard saw me through two walls and a missing throat. And then there is the death of the outsider for and continuation of this gaming world that game would have to be none cannon or the outsider is replaced by his killer or the assassin dude from the first game.