I can't sell motorcycles anymore...

I've really been struggling lately to sell motorcycles. What's going on?
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[@JasonRidesmoto]

I have several hobbies... all of them I love HOWEVER, there are times where I don't wan't to touch a guitar... there are times I don't want to mess with the motorcycle... the beauty of having other hobbies is that I'm likely to be motivated and driven by 1 of them at any given time. So the others can sit until it comes back around where I'm driven again to ride or play or shoot or whatever. Just me

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Great way to look at it. This is me in many ways, always jumping from one to the other.

[@BlakeByDay]

Man you hit the nail on the head, feel this 100 percent

[@Icefury]

Times are MUCH tougher these days with the "basic costs of life" having skyrocketed the last few years. People are cash strapped and have cut way back in their discretionary spending, far greater than I remember during the 2001 and 2008 financial crashes. Inflation has hit us all hard and I strongly suspect it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I rarely go out to eat anymore, let alone think of new motorized toys to buy. Most everyone I know that is not upper middle class has eliminated most (if not all) discretionary spending. I wish you luck / success in moving your buddies Motorcycle.

[@langhamp8912]

Basically everyone I know has either seen their salary doubled or tripled since 2020, or is now unemployed. There's not much middle ground.

[@jasonlong5292]

It feels weird to me that you have this awesome channel that I loved watching with you buying and selling nice bikes just to turn your back on it and go in a different direction in which I'm not interested. I understand tho because you don't need to rely on having a KZbin channel to support your lifestyle but I am sad that this channel died. Good luck in all of your endeavors sir it was nice nice while it lasted.

[@kurtmessenger2034]

Sad that this channel died, It’s actually the reason I started to flip motorcycles myself. It gave me the idea, the thought of being able to make money and try out all kinds of different motorcycles was a dream and it became reality. Thank you

[@mg6214]

Where do u do it

[@kurtmessenger2034]

@@mg6214 i did it in PA for a few years before I moved to NC, just recently sold another one a week ago.

[@mg6214]

I think about doing it in Los Angeles CA. Do you mind chatting about it in private ?

[@itsgoingdown1974]

I worked at a Harley Dealership for 2 years in the service/parts department and I literally got to the point that I didn’t want to even see a motorcycle, much less ride mine. I left 6 months ago and still struggle to want to ride my bike. I’m hoping this feeling goes away soon but I would have thought it would have been gone by now. It’s just about peak riding season where I am. I just need to go out all day into the country and hills and stop at a Mom and Pop diner and just try and recapture why we ride bikes in the first place.

[@rhodeisland_roadking]

Super soft market too. Bad time to be a seller. It would be a good time to be a buyer but with a lot of boomers quitting riding the market is getting flooded.

[@BlakeByDay]

Man your channel inspired me to go out and buy a 2014 CB1100 exactly like the one you had, got it for a steal after looking for months found one for 4K with only 4800 miles on it and there’s not a thing wrong with it. It awakened my passion again for riding. I’m 28, owned numerous motorcycles of different types and loved them all my life. I feel like with a lot of things in life it’s easy to loose interest and motivation sometimes in the things we were once passionate about but all we can do is take it in strides. Things always seem to ebb and flow when it comes to hobbies/ passions but all it takes someone or some thing to reignite it. Don’t give up on the channel man, love your content! Not sure if you’d be interested but perhaps you could make a “how to” video on buying/flipping bikes? Not very many types of those videos on here so it make for some different unique content!

[@JonsMotoGarage]

I appreciate the support, man! Nice deal on the cb1100!

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

I think CFMOTOs are going to be tough to sell used no matter what. People still don't know what their long term reliability and dealer support will be.

[@1sttimegunowner]

agreed

[@JonsMotoGarage]

I actually had lots of hits on it, but my problem has been staying on top of reposting, responding to interest, taking the time to show it, etc.

[@chelechillen7848]

I know what you mean. I'm in PHX and just sold a bike for only a $200 gain. Got tired of looking at it and dealing with people. It's become a lot harder to sell over the last year.

[@dco956]

Always like your videos....your honest opinions!

[@NarcoToad]

I just bought a yamaha road star 1600 for $1500. Right now isn't the time to sell but 100% the time to buy

[@aa7jc]

"Luckily by the Grace of God he didn't like rip through and crash into a wall or anything else and didn't get hurt" Yes, I love how you articulated that. Grace.

[@1sttimegunowner]

Economy so many people have such little cash right now. Definitely a buyers market

[@mr.b3168]

I told my girl I should sell my bike back when the market was hot. 2021-2023 Then the moment she finally says I should sell it. (This past year) I have struggled to sell it. People were posting dynas for 14k as I have it now. And I have dropped it to 8.5k Still people offering 6k. It's like DAMN.

[@RedEmpire36]

Hear yah bro. I was flipping back in 18-19 when you were as well. Now I am retired from military and working second job. Zero motivation to do so anymore. Now I buy one bike every 4-5 months and work on it in my spare time and then sell. It is still fun to restore neglected FXR or Dynas (still hotter market), especially now that I don't really HAVE to.

[@_______-]

In the UK. Had an XJR1300 on Ebay/Autotrader for 3 months. New service, tyres, chain and sprockets, the works. It's not the season, but haven't had a single call. Maybe I'll just keep it...

[@CaptainPantys]

God bless you bro, I hope your motivation comes back but if you stay burnt out then just ride for yourself my dude. No shame at all closing up shop, life is full of adventures and all that jazz so fuck it. Do what you want to do.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

🤘💯

[@EricNord]

The market is different this year. Buyer's market, but who knows when that will flip...

[@stevecrawford7814]

I hate to sell anything. A big pain. Im giving my stuff away now.

[@ayedee6681]

Had a nephew dump his G35 on me to sell. It’s a bother these days dealing with FB sales, having to set up viewing times, negotiating, no shows. I had to fight to get $3000 for a $5k car. I pretty much gave it away. No fun.

[@ThisIsSparta300]

First time seeing this channel 2 mins ago let’s see wassup fellas

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Thanks for stopping by!🤘💯

[@TheDougSpot]

You can sell a bike, a car, a boat, even a plane to someone without a license. You just can’t let them drive it off your lot as a dealer. Be honest, the vast majority of riders didn’t get their license until after they bought their first bike.

[@axelfoley5155]

I learned on a Honda monkey a year later I got my Scout Rogue so at that point I had the basics down but never rode anything other than the monkey with 9 horsepower so I went straight to 100 horsepower and i took it easy and the transition was very smooth. I didn't have a license and they absolutely had no problem taking $8,000 down. I live in Philly and my dealerships a good dealership they just told me to be safe luckily I got my license now but I didn't want to wait. So that's my experience without having a license and financing a bike without having much experience. I have $13,500 miles on my scout and going strong. I've had the scout now for a year in February 2024.

[@trippontwowheels]

Hi Jon! It may not just be you. It’s a buyer’s market currently, and the market is flooded with used bikes as well. Sales are much slower now than they were just a year ago.

[@xclent1975]

That’s called a buyers market ! SMH 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@trippontwowheels]

@@xclent1975 Shaking your head because a human being made a mistake? Someone’s got too much time on their hands.

[@ram1959]

Bought my first bike at 18 without a license put it on my truck drove it to the farm and taught myself how to ride it on the farm. Then I took my 2 day course to get the license made it much easier in my opinion to learn at my own pace. I don’t think there should be another barrier to motorcycling. If your an adult it’s on you

[@JonsMotoGarage]

You make a good point. How can one learn if they can't get their hands on a bike?

[@roydied15]

I live just outside Chicago and from what I see on the daily here, there's a war waging on between buyers and sellers. On one hand, the sellers are trying to sell a 6 year old bike for what a brand new one sells for (Groms are particularly bad in this case, but generally speaking, all bikes fall to this except metric cruisers). Then you have the polar opposite side where the buyers lowball SO bad that its laughable. Regardless of what anyone here thinks, its NOT the economy. The economy is on the upswing, unemployment is stable, the markets are fine, etc. Yeah inflation is a bit high and so are the interest rates, but that's a necessary evil to fix the damage that's been done over the last decade. The REAL issue at hand is that everyone thinks they're some sort of entrepreneur whose gonna get rich quick by buying and selling or "flipping" bikes. The sellers want top dollar because they think they're smarter than the buyer and the buyer wants to lowball as badly as possible because they're not buying the bike to ride it, but rather they just want to feel like they "won" the deal. I'm 32 years old and I've owned 19 bikes in my 14 years of riding. That's over 1 bike a year. My personal philosophy for coming up with reasonable offers on buying bikes, since i go through them like underwear, is to offer the seller what I think I can reasonably sell the thing for in a year from purchasing it, assuming its in the same condition as I bought it in (usually better because I'm the most meticulous person I personally know when it comes to routine maintenance an preventative maintenance).

[@chelechillen7848]

Any good deals are bought within 10 minutes and relisted the next day. If you are a flipper in Maricipa County, two or three guys are pretty much picking up all the deals to resell.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

I used to be one of those guys. Glad to not be doing it anymore. Lol.

[@chelechillen7848]

@@JonsMotoGarage I was as well. 8 month old has slowed me down. I've been picking from up north now. Things sell a bit slower and I got a buddy who can view stuff for me. I'm friends with one of the main guys now and the guy is constantly moving stuff. it's a full time job though with overtime. The minute or even seconds a deal comes up he's already messaged them.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

@@chelechillen7848 Yeah, I used to go up to prescott, verde valley, etc. and down to tucson and yuma on occassion to pick up good deals. Back in my day, there were a few of us snatching up deals. I got good at finding over priced bikes and waiting a few weeks to come in with lower offers instead of going for the super smoking deals.

[@chelechillen7848]

Yup that's where I'm getting stuff now. PV, Mayer. Oh ya man I remember all your deals from years back. You actually got me motivated in 2018 to get a Dyna and start flipping bikes again. 😁. The ETitle stuff has def made it more interesting but you can just print a Title Transfer Form.

[@Dustin359]

Hey... that van in the background looks familiar! ;)

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Ha! 💯🤘

[@aa7jc]

BTW, Chaseontwowheels has a great review on the CFMOTO 300SS named 2022 CFMoto 300SS | First Ride.

[@SVTBansheeman]

I had a kid running the door of my truck years ago. $1000 of damage and didn't buy the bike. Parent gave me $600 which is better than nothing. Lesson learned.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Live and learn. 🤙💯

[@randomgirl-lj3xi]

How do you afford so many bikes ia it becauuas ciat of living in usa is so low? Like im on 130k a year acraping by

[@BrandonBicasso]

Struggling to sell my 3 rebuilt bikes lol. Picked the worst time to try this game.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

My man! 🤘💯

[@BrancoFXDC]

It took me almost 4 months to sell a mint, running Ironhead Sportster for $4k Canadian/ $2950 USD

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Crazy!

[@peterwilson8039]

I will never encourage anybody to ride a bike. If they want to it’s fine, but it has to come from them. I don’t mind selling bikes. I think a good metric is if they ride up on a bike. I love your mountain bike stuff.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

My philosophy as well...98% of the time. I kind of convinced Jackie to try it out. 😄

[@7viewerlogic670]

How many of your own motorcycles are still around?

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Drz, grom, sportster, fxdx. Struggling to sell any of em due to no motivation. Lol.

[@7viewerlogic670]

@@JonsMotoGarage Well you gotta keep the FXD anyways, you made that one a legend!

[@eggheadrocks8224]

burnout happens brother, plus with the economy the way it is, its hard to make the profit you need without over pricing to the point where nobody wants to spend that price in the first place. Im seeing Dynas that were 4500-6000 a couple years ago getting listed for 8-10000 now, just not the market it once was.

[@87cigs]

thats just dyna bros trying to recoup MSRP + labor of having their lego kit of the same bolt ons installed

[@justoneperson]

I’ve bought and rode bikes for years up till 5 years ago with out a bike licence. 😮 Anyone can buy a bike here. They would sell a Busa to a 16 yo.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Noice! I guess it's less about the license and more about whether or not the individual can ride. Lol. Saludos, amigo! Hope you're doing well!

[@earthsurfer13]

Prices in Oklahoma are insane. You can just buy a car.

[@xclent1975]

Too much on your plate bro… lighten your load and clear the mind and reset …

[@joeschmoe1301]

Just a comment. Jon, you've tried so hard to cultivate your "bike hooligan" image with the wheelies and burnouts etc. That is exactly people of my age, would NOT buy a bike from. Especially the black Honda F6B you had for sale. That bike is MY demographic!! We want to see someone who has a battery tender hooked up to it. Lovingly cared for, service records etc. Motorcycles are STILL selling. Especially used motorcycles. Buyers are just much more discriminating about WHO they buy from.

[@JonsMotoGarage]

You're spot on regarding target demographics for certain bikes. 💯🤙

[@sthr2110]

Facebook Marketplace has become overrun by individuals who either aren't serious, or just want to rip people off, or who communicate HORRIBLY. It is an utterly horrible place to sell things but is also a fantastic barometer of just how lame the majority of the population has become.

[@dplorbl]

Maybe someone will come over when they get their tax refund?

[@JonsMotoGarage]

It is tax season!

[@ali-thia6396]

You don’t need a license to buy a bike dude. The license is to ride them not buy them. But what was the point of this clip. I guess what ever clicks you can get. Peace out from me

[@JonsMotoGarage]

💯🤙You still doing bjj? I plan to jump back in eventually when my sched gets less hectic.

[@davidjr24]

There was a shop in SATX that sold a new bike to guy who didn’t have a license. First ride out the parking lot he got hit by a car and was killed. That exit from the bike shop is no joke either even for a skilled rider. Oops

[@JonsMotoGarage]

Dang, that's a sad one.