I Completely Broke Peglin With Countorb Attack!

Peglin Part 54 - specifically, the combo between Countorb Attack and Double-Edged Sworb. It's broken, yet keeps you at the edge of your seat at any given moment.
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[@billiamswartz2355]

Ah I see, the real masochism build was the pegs we refreshed along the way, thank you for this inspirational message Tyler Aliens “aliensrock” Rock

[@whatevername4873]

Tyler Aliens "extraterrestrial stone" Rock

[@greenbirdgaming8691]

And the enemies we killed, don't forget about that.

[@NickiRusin]

Tyler Aliens "DildoBike" Rock

[@thepizzagod420]

​@@NickiRusin rock hard

[@clash9087]

At 25:05, he took no damage from the double edge sworb despite refreshing the board because he was blinded by 99. I think that's a really funny interaction.

[@KusaneHexaku]

imagine being so blinded you can't even hit yourself

[@Kascep]

When I realized that interaction it blew my mind as it had so 'much' effects on the fight that without the ballanx it would have significantly changed the outcome

[@nitaistrange112]

Its not because of the blind but because at lvl 2 and 3, double edged sworb deals 1 damage per peg, *without* counting the first 5 pegs. And since master pegger Tyler hit 3 pegs or smt after that very late refresh, no pegs were counted.

[@doggo9388]

@@nitaistrange112 it made the miss sound effect, not the normal one.

[@nitaistrange112]

@@doggo9388 Ah, epic coding xD

[@notdead5837]

Dang. He got pegged then pegged him back tenfold! Good job, Tyler!

[@AMan-xz7tx]

runs like these make me feel like a secret, super difficult 4th floor needs to be added

[@blainebortuga1611]

Or endless mode (ng+)

[@Amodh1257]

Molten mantle is beyond cracked. It's the main reason this run was way easier than it should've been

[@alexsiemers7898]

The higher level cruciballs offer a pretty good challenge as is, though admittedly the grind to reach them is a bit slow

[@Bit125_]

Mines complete! Crucial Lv. 5 Unlocked! Pain Unlocked!

[@angelcaru]

Like Slay the Spire?

[@Last_Person]

Yknow it’d be fun to see a eldritch Peglin class called the horrorb

[@whatevername4873]

Probably way to much work on the developers end, but imagine getting rid of the cutesy graphics and it looks like a horror game when you shoot it

[@boblobgobstopper13214]

⁠​⁠@@whatevername4873 every time you kill an enemy they explode into hyperrealistic blood that flows out of the screen 😱

[@JamesTDG]

@@whatevername4873 Definitely something a coked-up fan would make

[@matimele1]

Class or orb?

[@thetiredladdy]

@@matimele1 y e s

[@rupert_1491]

Counterstrike lookin a bit different these days

[@Blend3rman]

Missed opportunity to call the orb countorbstrike

[@Local_Phantasm]

Counter Sphere: Global Orbfensive

[@unwieldywharf41]

@@Local_Phantasm good one mate

[@AAAAHHHHHHHHHH]

⁠@@Local_Phantasm Glorbal Orbfensive

[@okayreche]

Ya this is csgo 2

[@TobyConger]

25:05 If you listen closely, the "Attack miss" sound played, and Double-Edged Sworb didn't do any damage. That's because during that fight, he had Blind 99. And because he had Blind 99, any self-damage had a 99% chance to miss. And the self-damage from Double-Edged Sworb did just that.

[@casualmarkit9969]

The problem with this theory is two fold: A) Self damage is unnaffected by Blind as it is no attack, just damage dealt, and B) what you are referencing is not true Blind. He would almost not be able to deal damage with that much and yet Every projectile he shot hit, and he would not have a Shroud blocking non-projectile attacks from working if it was Blind. It is a seperate sort of "in darkness" effect that simply has an infinite duration, and was made back when Blind was a static miss chance with limited duration, and the game was several layers more archaic and stupid than it is now. The room effect just hasn't really been "broke broke" yet so the lone indie dev just hasn't had a good reason to go back and remove the discrepency in debuff icons, especially while they still need(ed) to fix outright broken parts of the game so it works right. There is also the fact, note just purported by others and im just acting as Messenger, several other sources like Sock Puppet play the same sound effect as a Miss when they trigger, so the sound effect is more accurately a "This source of damage dealt 0 damage!" And not a "This Attack Missed due to Blind!" Sound effect, which is a Major discrepency in auditory clarity if not clarified either way, due to the sheer difference in meaning between the two. I can kinda hear it when you whiff a shot too, if you tune out the high pitch plop of the orb hitting the ground, so i believe the former more than the latter is the true case; but that could just be my brain tricking me and i have no clear idea at this point what that sound actually signifies. So ugh yeah this game is a lot more pedantic than it seems on the surface, and im already walking away from the conversation due to the headache its given me now processing all this myself.

[@gboster1331]

Double-Edged sworb sure seems to be sentient, have its own emotions and randomly deal damage

[@karlfrogley1977]

I think what happened when you got “hit” for 0 was that the self damage “missed” due to the blind that you had. So It counted as a hit on you but it never did any damage so the last damage source was 0

[@monstertruck366]

That's absolutely hilarious for some reason Edit: removed accidental emoji

[@obscurepillow9774]

I like how even if u haven’t watched peglin before it’s still fun to watch

[@Horse_Puncher]

Yeah, watching tyler being pegged is really fun to watch! I remember my first time, he really got pegged and did the pegging.

[@Oren_is_tired]

​@@Horse_Puncher😟

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

25:19 I think when you fired the double-edged sworb, it refreshed either five or six pegs, meaning your self damage was 0 or 1. If it was the latter value, gardeners glove may round down to 0. So you would have taken damage, but it was zero.

[@aloysiuskurnia7643]

You know its going to be good when the titular orb comes at the 2nd level

[@cg7407]

How the double edged sworb (currently) works: When drawn, refreshes the board - AND (this is seperate from the when drawn statement) deals {Amount} self Damage per refreshed peg (this also counts for refresh pegs) Its scuffed and i hope they change this soon XD 25:29 The game counted the damage from the double edged sworb as 0 self damage because less than 5 orbs got refreshed. (0 self damage is still counted as an amount of self damage)

[@BeeLol.3]

Finally more pegging showing your true power

[@churrotree2293]

i think the 0 damage source was the double edge sworb restoring less than 5 pegs so it reduced it to 0 damage.

[@m4rcyonstation93]

or it hitting ballwark

[@casualmarkit9969]

​@@m4rcyonstation93 Nah, he got hit for 4 self damage to his ballwark and got 4 damage for the purpose of Countorb gaining damage earlier in the video, it is by far most likely DE Sworb dealing exwctly 0 self damage that caused the interaction.

[@caseyycaseyy1]

Double edge sworb straight up missed due to blind, in theory. We heard the miss sound effect when it came, anyways.

[@casualmarkit9969]

@@caseyycaseyy1 He wasnt Blind in the way that gave a chance to miss, thats not what the room effect does. That is literally not possible, given his only debuff was the permanent Shroud effect blocking non-projectiles from functioning after the weather vane died in that fight.

[@kobold_sushi_executive_chef]

The intro highlights a missed opportunity for an orb, the Ring Kong

[@ShockMicro]

Surprisingly, the Gift That Keeps On Giving is actually still pretty good with the right build- even against the dragon boss! I picked it up on the first floor, grabbed Molten Mantle on the second, and bought an Electorbmagnet along the way. Absolute health drainer.

[@JamesTDG]

Yk, I can't wait for the day you get a peglin chef while having the egg

[@joeyrodenburg4462]

I love this series. It's just so amusing and relaxing at the same time. These are great videos especially for relaxing breaks during exam studying! Keep up the good work! :)

[@Ansatz66]

"When drawn, refreshes the board and deals 1 self-damage per refreshed peg." The way that is worded, it could mean that the self-damage only happens when drawing the orb, but it could just as well mean that these are two entirely separate effects. Based on what the orb actually does, it seems they are two separate effects. Perhaps it could be more clear, but I'm not sure the best way to word it.

[@TheFunfighter]

To make it two independent effects, it would need to be a seperate sentence instead of a conjunction.

[@eclipseeffigy]

The way it is worded means self-damage happens only on draw. It damaging on refresh hit is either an oversight, a bug, or (unlikely imho) it's written wrong.

[@wvxcosta7143]

On the last elite of act 2 he did hit a refresh and didn't get hit self-damage so I think is really a bug

[@jasonalex5816]

5:40 Ah yes, i deal {[ECHO_CURRENT_DMG]} more.

[@Hamburger-xk5ds]

Yep

[@roseroy5041]

I really love the editing. The editor has a great sense of humor and I am here for it!

[@LettuceGayming]

25:21 you whiffed the double edged sword because of the 99 blind

[@JamesTDG]

Okay, I think this was the best intro ever.

[@riancloutier3021]

I know this was posted a year ago, but Im playing scrooge in a community theater production of the Christmas carol musical and hearing you say bah humbug 1:53 literally filled my soul with stress and I think I should go study my script now.

[@profesionalmiser7390]

I think it calculates the damage for countorb attack by recording the damage to your health when you get injured because the last attack that hit you was completely negated by Balwark and dealt no damage to your health, it registered as you taking damage equal to zero.

[@absoluteinfinity3330]

16:53 "Tyler can have a little restorb, as a treat"

[@HardxCorpsxKali]

7:43 ohhhh so this is back when the act 1 slime elite was easy…. 😂😂

[@dhearyzikrimuhammad_0366]

The durable gift is actually cracked with forbtification, because it can be hit 3 times, each peg give more progress to be fortified and give ballwark

[@darkdwarf007]

2:54 Tyler be like: im telling you now i have plans that i cannot share with you right now because the haters will sabotage me

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

25:30 could be the 0 self damage Double-edged orb

[@electromika]

It could also be from the enemy attacking but it getting blocked by the ballwark

[@nothingnothing1799]

​@@electromika earlier in the video he pointed out that damage done to bulwark still counts, it had to have been the double edge sworb

[@JackNHoffa]

@@electromika Countorb attack does count ballwark loss as damage. It was absolutely the Double-edged Sworb. The amount of pegs it refreshed on draw was nonzero, so it did hit, but due to the "X-5" property on the damage inflicted, it didn't refresh enough pegs to hurt, therefore counting as a source of 0 damage.

[@willj3402]

@@JackNHoffa I thought that the orb did no self damage because of the blind that was applied to the peglin during that fight. You can here the sound effect when an attack misses due to blindness when the double edged sworb goes off

[@timbo3286]

@@willj3402 The "Attack missed" sound was also played previously in the video when the Double-edged Sworb refreshed fewer than 5 pegs. It also gets played when an attack hits but it's damage gets blocked (sock puppet, buckler). So it's actually more of an "you took no damage from the attack" sound rather than "Attack missed".

[@dallenhunt4323]

I think the reason the countorb was a 0/9 was because when you draw the double edged sword it does self damage based on how many pegs you refresh minus 5 but since you refreshed less than five it did "4 self damage-5" and counted that

[@willropa4226]

Goblins: "I'm gonna punch you in the face!" Aliensrock: "But it's opposite day."

[@RoboBunny-G]

another great video. Thanks for always making my sleep schedule die (I cant help it, your videos are addicting)

[@captainstroon1555]

I think the Double-Edged Sworb works as intended but is just worded badly. It's (When drawn, refreshes the board) and (deals 1 self-damage per refreshed peg). Two separate effects with masochistic synergy.

[@Sprayer-px3tu]

"I'll upgrade... the sphear" somehow reminded me of "That's right, it goes in the square hole!"

[@neavako5541]

I love it when Tyler Pegs

[@DMD-Wewae]

I have an orb idea, Velocitau. It would work by it adding it’s speed times 2 when exiting the board to the orbs final damage. So it’s level one damage calculation would be dmg+x where x is the speed when exiting the pegboard times 2. Upgrading it would increase its peg damage and the multiplier applied to the speed. Hope that made sense, but probably not

[@kilda9301]

Me knowing damn well I will probably never play Peglin but truly enjoying these videos anyway 🎉

[@dontdoitdan7965]

LOVE the over the top intro

[@L4dy_Kum]

Am I alone who caught this? 25:06 Double edge missed self damage because peglin had blindness, wich made counter attack orb do 0 on non crit since last damage taken was 0. Damn that is some spaghetti code shit, not even saying that refreshing with doub edge hurts even tho its def no supposed to.

[@MelonDevouringSerpent]

I call the little mage guys Circlerics

[@sebsquatch312]

Bruh the edits are so good! Edit: Noo why pass on the refillibuster? It synergizes with double edged sworb pretty nicely

[@fish5541]

Countorbstrike combined with double edged sworb seem like the biggest combo currently in the game

[@dungeoncat502]

25:24 I think I figured out what happened here. At 25:02 you got a refresh right before double-edged sworb and if you look at the ballwark it doesn't go down when the double-edged sworb is drawn meaning that the -5 led to 0 damage being done. The zero damage still counted but that's not the only weird thing that happened here because the double-edged sworb interaction with countorb attacked is even weirder. The last source of damage that was taken was at 24:39 and was 5 from an enemy but the countorb attack crit damage was 9 meaning that it was calculating 3*(5+(-2)) meaning that the double-edged sworb damage was dealing -2 damage but counting negative damage as 0 instead of the really weird possibility of it healing you (which it did not do).

[@genano2217]

Yooooooo, it's 2:30 AM and i should be sleeping, but i can't resist the need to see your videos

[@maxbennett5412]

It seems this was a mix of many builds. Masochism, ballwark, that kind of thing.

[@GrimpMasterGampoleon]

Always ready at 12 est to watch the new Tyler vid

[@LucasMoura-xj7xb]

Tyler, play Crying Suns, it's a rouge like game, with Battle ship strategy and a awesome storyline.

[@andrewevenson2657]

I feel like they need to add some optional content after the 3rd stage. Like some challenge content maybe, no more upgrades or orbs, you work with what you have and try to beat the 4th stage. A gamble on taking the 3rd stage win and leaving or risking it all for glory

[@lordbepis69]

I just realized that because Tyler was blind, he once took no damage from D-Sworb.

[@mydadslefttoe6981]

Hey, I started watching your videos when you were doing luck be a landlord and it makes me happy whenever I see a new vid. 🎉🎉🎉

[@tomthecasual5337]

ballanx, the secret mvp here. im glad to see it shine

[@ripstick45]

25:25, the "0 damage" seemed to be from an enemy that missed an attack? Heard the sound effect for that moments earlier.

[@viktorjuelshj2736]

i believe it to be from the double egded sworb. as it deals damage equal to pegs restored -10. less than 10 pegs restored and it deals 0 damage.

[@jdr293]

I believe the sound (and "damage" source) was from the double edged sworb triggering right after the board was already refreshed

[@ripstick45]

That could make sense then. The game might deal "damage" to the player, but plays the miss sound if the damage dealt is 0 or rounded up to 0. This is a bit of a stretch though. Alternatively, it could just be that he had 99 blind as others noticed, so it WAS actually a miss and registered as a 0 damage instance. Since either way it was still "dealt" to the player though, it makes sense that the Countorb has a 0 damage instance as the most recent one. Either an oversight, or a wacky interaction with Blind.

[@lefi_is_here]

20:16 made me spit out water I did not see that coming

[@waitingfortheequinnox]

I can’t believe you completely broke pegging with Countorb Attack! Consent is everything, Tyler!

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

I recently got Peglin myself, and I've already had some cracked builds. One of my earliest and favourite ones so far was combining the *Swaltorb* with the *Defresh Potion* - which grants Morbid in exchange for a Refresh - and then went full on with the no Refresh's with Consuming Chalice. It was REALLY good; the damage stacked up and just went to the moon! But a recent one I did with the Roundrel was also a lot of fun. I combined the random debuff's with piercing debuff orbs like *Cauldron Buball* and *Go For The Icircle* and then doubled that up with *Mask of Sorrow* and *Branch of Ember*. I was casting debuffs to the enemy like crazy!

[@Note_Creator]

5:52 Ambition, when thou art too big for thine britches.😂👍

[@TheRubySpider]

16:40 My favorite part of the video was when Tyler said “It’s most certainly *not* Restorbin’ time,” and then he proceeded to Restorb all over the enemies anyway.

[@Christian_Luczejko]

This is how every game goes for me when I focus the almighty muscircle build.

[@jamiesnow8190]

Thanks for the video!

[@ckcky1755]

The peg has fell down!!!

[@DerpyEinstein]

“Im excited.” He said with a scowl.

[@xd_Corruption]

I'd love to see a coin build.

[@frantisekvrana3902]

25:30 The last instance of Double-edged Sworb did no harm to you or your ballwark.

[@tdubmorris5757]

the intro edits are starting to look more and more chaotic

[@insertnamehere4775]

The double edged sworb isn’t bugged. It says in the description that for every orb refreshed you lose health. It doesn’t specify anywhere that this only happens when you first equip the orb.

[@afeathereddinosaur]

I think countorb attack counts blocked attacks as 0 damage, so if you have armor it will detract from the damage I think

[@akosijj8330]

Popping corn is working double time today

[@WooperButBetter]

The last beardless tyler video, I miss him so much.

[@elizathegamer413]

Tyler in the middle of a self damage build not taking the ring of indign😅

[@MichaelMSHuber]

Ballanx being baller at the end

[@AhmedIbrahim-hs7kk]

Love the intro

[@BilbusBaggins]

I like these vids where he completely breaks the game

[@burgerboss8903]

My favorite before bed video

[@burgerboss8903]

With love

[@ThisIsNotADrell]

It's Absolute bonkers is what it is, what you can do with builds like these.

[@ether3896]

The double edged sworb says "refresh when drawn and take self damage per peg refreshed" it doesnt say that the damage is mutually exclusive to it being drawn

[@pacattack2586]

I figured out the countorb attack 'bug' (not sure about the double edge sworb though) Step 1: Gain Ballwark Step 2: Take damage *less* than the number of Ballwark you have Step 3: Ballwark *prevents* damage taken ... You take 0 damage from an attack and lose that much Ballwark *instead* - this means that it is possible with sufficient Ballwark to have a 0/0 countorb attack even after 'taking damage' ... effectively Ballwark is an anti-synergy with countorb attack

[@deltamico]

2:32 the second last damage was -1, so they have a placeholder value -1 at the start of the run i guess

[@iLoveF3NT]

This was some aggressive pegging thanks tyler

[@beaniiman]

I think the upgrade all stones event makes them orbalisks

[@Ennar]

1:52 this must be the world record in how bad these two shots were on this particular map. EDIT: and in general, you'd probably have to try real hard to achieve so little pegs hit.

[@bizzbolt5]

I have an idea for an orb: the ESPuck. It counts the cursor as a magnet and is attracted to it

[@snickerdoodleplus3383]

13:17 Peak pumpkin pie value

[@fedyaemmet1530]

When drawn it refreshes the board for free and every refresh while using the orb does -1 health

[@gawain0]

At 15:33, I counted the pegs and I'm lie 99% certain that the gardening gloves do not affect the self damage from the double-edged sworb. Odd that that's not considered self damage from orbs. I guess gardening gloves only affect self damage cause by orbs when they're thrown, like the arcentuate and infernorb?

[@gawain0]

I counted again at 18:20 and verified, indeed, gardening gloves don't affect double-edged sworb self damage.

[@TheHuntermj]

25:18 Maybe getting hit with Bullwark counts, as in you took 0 damage but were technically hit?

[@gboster1331]

definetelly not, their bullwark did not decrease and the orb actually played a healing sound for once

[@floppy8568]

I think the double edged sworb isn't bugged, but it's description has some of that wording

[@theeheelloboi]

Thank you Tyler for pegging with protection 🙏

[@dudledot]

i think i see why you took 17 damage from double edged sword early in the run, note the "deals 1 self-damager per refreshed (normal pegs) -5" so maybe its just refreshing using double edged in general

[@quanganhnguyen4860]

The enemies attack also count as last source ò damage too. It is 0 cus it didn't damager you because of the ballwalk

[@Vilkku_taken]

17:52 which came first the double-edged sworb or countorb attack

[@andrewmayne1276]

It seam the double edged sword deal damage every time the boars is refresher when the ord is drawn it just does a free one like refreshorb

[@georgeurban4882]

Last video with the normal outro cool

[@100beep5]

2:55 Typer turned into Trump with his amazing healthcare plan

[@bunfnaf126]

I’m wondering, how long does it take to edit these videos? Because the last update to bring in new stuff is a few days old

[@TheFunfighter]

I think he plays a bunch of one game in a single session, then spreads out the content between his other series.

[@jdr293]

He usually likes to keep a large backlog of videos so if he can't record he can keep up his daily uploads. You can also see that the floor 3 shop has the pre-nerf broccoli so yeah this video was recorded a while ago

[@dogjeff07]

*punches self in face* how dare you! it's now my turn to counterattack!

[@TheFerociousWolf]

hahahahahhaha the intro edit 😂

[@thetruetri5106]

I have a rather weird idea for an orb: If the crit or non-crit damage is below the other, it increases to be equal

[@sarahgradidge5966]

Ballance, not balance

[@sarahgradidge5966]

Ballanced scores

[@zackwalker2172]

This orb scares me. I never wanna take it.