I CRASHED in a FULL MOTION RIG! DCS World Multi-threading UPDATE | AMD 7900 XTX DOF Reality H2 in VR

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

To see the best Carrier takeoff with the DOF Reality H2, skip to 6:10 👍👍

[@theoldweaponstroop7441]

I've been using a DOF reality M2 for about 3 years now, I can't imagine flying or driving without it. I find that the pro profiles for DCS tend to be near perfect.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I must try those profiles next time. Thanks for watching :)

[@claytonsims205]

Amazing!! I’ve been waiting to see how DCS and DOF performed. Still awaiting mine to arrive 👍🏻

[@boborbob7579]

How long from ordering is delivery? I'm thinking of a h3

[@claytonsims205]

@@boborbob7579 I ordered 2 weeks ago. Got an yesterday stating the quality team found an issue and will hopefully ship in the following weeks after it’s repaired.

[@idiscovertv]

Orderd today 5weeks

[@claytonsims205]

Got mine assembled today 👍🏻

[@jsnazz77]

​​@claytonsims205 and? Worth the money if you got it? You get h3?

[@donotwantyoutoknowit]

I love your enthusiasm after all these videos. It really shines on your DCS content!

[@PatJones82]

That crash was EPIC! It did toss you around quite a bit! Awesome. :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Haha you're not kidding Pat and it felt WAY more violent in VR too. Thanks for watching :)

[@ZaphodBeeblebrox2nd]

After a real pain in the a... Solving the problem why my rig isn't moving like it should I had my first small test flight in the DCS A10. What a blast that rig is. I'm blown away and that's only the beginning. Lots to tweak on platform movement and setting up some nice control solutions. Thanks to the very good customer support from Igor at Dofreality.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice one Alexander, glad you got it sorted :)

[@ZaphodBeeblebrox2nd]

@@VRFlightSimGuy so after 2 days flying nearly nonstop ill have to say that thing is the real Deal. You cant describe how awesome the feeling is when got shot out of the Catapult of a Carrier, Accelerating and Pulling some G´s to above the clouds. This is real!!!! After a 2 hrs flight i have a feeling i had after real flying. Absolut Awesome. Cant imagine owning a 6DOF with Actuators. I guess i would never leave Home Again Awesome times we live in guys!!

[@toxaq]

I remember being young and basically dreaming of this being real one day. My future is now, just amazing. Now to work out how to pay for it 😂

[@ZaphodBeeblebrox2nd]

me too. Flight Simming since the 90s and seeing the first crappy VR Stuff in Movies. Wanted this so bad in these days and now we have all awesome stuff to buy. Flying in VR since Oculus Rift came out. Now ive ordered that H2 Motion Rig. Cant wait till it is at home and running. Awesome times we live in

[@toxaq]

@@ZaphodBeeblebrox2nd I vaguely remember trying an Uncle's PC in the late 80s early 90s with a CGA green monitor that had some flight "sim" on it... almost impossible to explain to my kids how the times have changed!

[@clayton4115]

how are you enjoying the H2 motion rig?

[@ZaphodBeeblebrox2nd]

thats the Video i was looking for to get me even more hyped. My H2 isnt shipped yet so a few weeks to wait. At your first Carrier Takeoff i was a bit disapointed from the Launch Effects in your Rig. Thank god you changed Settings and the 2nd Launch was awesome. Im playing DCS since a lot of years now and the Motion Rig is one big Step for me in Simulation. Another Video with an Apache would be also cool. Flying Helicopter more often after purchasing the great Virpil Collective. Im Curios how the H2 performce with Helicopoters as well. Also your Landing Effects are very good. This is gonna be an awesome time when my H2 arrives ;)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Alex I'm so glad you watched the whole video as you literally come along for my first experience with me. I feel excited for you!

[@jimmy8x541]

MT update has made DCS sooo much better. I am really playing it a lot now and have learned a lot of weapons systems. it's very rewarding

[@PocketProjects]

Lol loved the intentional crash and underwear change in the name of 'research' - great to see the dialled in SRS settings, your rigs looking great!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

haha thanks mate. I'm very grateful to the F18 Hornet giving up it's life in the name of ''science'' :)

[@bakzetary3145]

Nice video! Nice crash too. Just last night after not flying in DCS for a couple weeks I tried the exact same landing. After the 4th bolter, bolter/wave-off, I said to myself, "To hell with it" and ejected, LOL!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

😂🤣

[@generalgrevous2458]

Pedals are also tied to power in DCS, or something completely unrelated to yaw. Easy enough to fix in settings.

[@dudeinthesea]

Can only imagine how insane the H6 would be for DCS

[@robertzolliecoffer2845]

I can't wait, I ordered a P2 and it is coming in this week.

[@nzbankboyinvr4713]

This was the one I was waiting for! Carrier sorties and crashing….yep, Motion rig is now on my wish list for the future, thanks very much, you are going to break Santa’s back 😂

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

LOL. Crashing in the name of science :D It's true what they say though, once you experience one, there's no going back.

[@jycannel4626]

If you didnt know there is currently an issue with the XTX and VR headsets plugged directly into the GPU. It exhibits very high frame time deltas (very frequent spikes) in the frame time delivery in directX11 VR games. It is especially prevalent in WMR. Ironically the Pico 4 is one of the only vr headsets that will work correctly with dcs and the 7900xtx currently haha as it does not directly connect to the gpu. Give it a go with your G2 in openXR (as steamvr also currently has a bug with wmr and the xtx where gpu utilisation is not 100% in directX11 games) and you will see what i mean :) (right control pause break then click the down arrow to see the framtime graph). We in the dcs community have been trying to compile data for AMD to fix the issue and hopefully it is fixed soon :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Very interesting thankyou for the heads up, I will test this out as soon as I can.

[@tyeh101]

Then Quest 2 and Quest Pro will work fine with 7900 xtx too?

[@jycannel4626]

@@tyeh101 Hypothetically yes. The issue is rumoured to be with the driver having issue with the new displayport standard with vr headsets. Unfortunately Everyone who i have consulted did not have a quest 2 :/ only a Reverb G2 or an index

[@jeffweaver7199]

You can get a lot more motion if you enable surge in your motion profile when launching off the catapult. Sim Racing Studio will convert sway, surge and heave into pitch and roll on your H3. I have motion profiles as well available for DCS. Let me know if you would like a link to them.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Jeff I'd love to try out your settings.

[@theoldweaponstroop7441]

+1 on Jeff's profiles!

[@jeffweaver7199]

​@@VRFlightSimGuy KZbin won' t let me link external websites, but you can find a link to my DCS profiles for DOF Reality platforms in the description of my video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y57TmatqepZ9eLs I'll send you an email as well with the link. Great video by the way!

[@jeffweaver7199]

I sent you an email with the direct link to the profiles as well. Let me know if you have any questions!

[@channelvr1293]

Lol didn't really see you move on the launch...

[@GYGOtv]

Great Video Steve!!! I'm not sure what settings you ended up with, but definitely follow Jeff Weaver's recommendations. Also, if you want a little more aggressiveness on the launch, try dropping your "Max Telemetry" value on the surge down just 1 or 2 values until you get the launch you want. Cheers my friend!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks mate, I must admit I'm really enjoying tweaking this rig. I'll get there. In the meantime, I'm having so much fun experimenting with it.

[@poolhallshark]

Great video, Steve. Those rudder pedals looked like mine probably did the very first time (back in the 90's) where I wasn't COMPLETELY sure if I would be able to clear a hill in my glider. I remember catching myself trying to bicycle the glider forward. VERY counter productive, but I still made it in one piece 😅🤣 Greetings from Norway ! (Part II of your bike holiday to Norway ??? 😁 )

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks buddy! That did make me laugh! I never knew you flew gliders, very cool. How's Norway? I bet it's cold this time of year (but very beautiful I'd imagine). Hopefully my full Norway trip will be on the channel soon. It's going to be a mammoth task trying to get it down under 3 hours though lol.

[@poolhallshark]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Hehe, I started flying gliders in 19990, after being "rejected" from the fighter pilot training due to lacking math test progression. DAMN that stuff got heavy after a while🤣 But at least I tried, and passed the psychological and physical tests😉 Looking forward to your Norway video when the time comes. We had crazy weather her on Monday, and had 15 inches of snow, and we're gonna have more on Friday and Saturday. The week before we had -20 Celsius where I live and -30 just down the street. No spring this year I think.

[@WhitehouseProds]

Are you looking to try out the H3 at some point? I am consider a DOF Reality purchase and would love the comparison.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey Randy, I'm not planning to at this stage.

[@peterrussell5216]

Hi Steve, I love your videos buddy, and love VR, I'm seriously thinking about the motion Rig, I built wooden 1 for racing with 4 transducers, on my channel, but this thing is next level, watching your reactions makes me want 1, I know this is DCS but could you make a video with the motion rig in msfs Reno Air Race's, I recently went back in for a race and forgot how amazing and heart pumping it was ,would love to see you do a race with the motion on, but if not thanks for content excellent, happy st Patrick's day All

[@justindressler5992]

Do you think the yaw axis will add much, are you going to upgrade.

[@MihaPodgorelec]

if you have 45fps on the dot, that means you have motion reprojection turned on... turn that off and lets see the frames again ;)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I've already done that test, a video back from this one. I prefer MR on.

[@DallasJW1]

Looking at ordering, but my space is limited. How much wall clearance, front/back-left/RT, do you need?

[@Vortex31415]

Love your DCS content! Keep up the great videos.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou so much 😊

[@speedvr829]

Latest beta update has made dcs playable in vr. I'm getting 90fps with 10700k and 4090 with quest pro. Fantastic.

[@kylef_1129]

What are your honest quality settings?

[@speedvr829]

​@RektDynamic Ultra/high settings. Depends on map to be honest. I must say I only fly around, I don't dogbfight. I use dcs as an experience more than anything else. Bboy.

[@kylef_1129]

@@speedvr829 Do you think a 4080 would do the same if I have the textures and cockpit on high and the rest of the settings such as ground textures on medium/low?

[@speedvr829]

@RektDynamic Not sure. You just need to try it mate and monitor progress.

[@kylef_1129]

@@speedvr829 Okay ty

[@daveh1062]

Hi, I have been watching a while and wonder what your thoughts are on the Pico 4 running on a 3080 on DCS - worth a punt or not??? I currently run a Rift S. Cheers.

[@idiscovertv]

Hey! Ordered the H2! Thanks so much I have the same TiTAn chair as you too! Did it fit to the rig ok? Any tips? Thanks! James

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice one! I had to drill some extra holes for it to fit. It was a bit of a pain but possible.

[@idiscovertv]

@@VRFlightSimGuy oh awesome!!! Are you able to share your setting through a Google doc? - I’m sure everyone will be at a loss when they get the rig (like myself) I’m sure you have presets for DCS and MSFS? Maybe just screens hot would help??

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@idiscovertv That's a negative sorry. I don't intend to provide any setup tutorials apart from on the software side. Cheers.

[@alexanderbeck5686]

It would help if you put your flaps out to full if you want to land on the carrier. :)

[@paristo]

What is your anti-motion solution for the inside-out tracking to counter the motion platform caused movement?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Coming soon..

[@sid669907]

If you fit the glasses spacer that came with the Pico you might not feel the lens inserts.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Great suggestion! Thankyou

[@motionbasti]

i love to see you enjoy this.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou! :)

[@belgeode]

2nd attempt- BOLTER BOLTER! Back to the pattern with ye! 🤣

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

🤣😂🤣

[@alexanderbeck5686]

Was this with MT or without MT? Because 45FPS is quite low with this cind of setup if it was with MT

[@rogerfed6240]

hello, what about Crystal? did you got it finally???

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Not yet 🙄

[@mermaidslam7936]

I cannot get my Pico 4 to work with DCS. There will either be an infinite splash screen or it won't even load into VR

[@citizenblue]

What do you think about the AMD video card with Microsoft lights simulator?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Video on the channel. Have you missed it? Make sure you are subbed

[@ColinDyckes]

You've probably got one of the throttle channels defaulting to rudder. That's what I had after a fresh install on the 13900K/4090 system. Had the H3 in my shopping cart, and seriously considered it. VAT and duty pushes the price up, and, ignoring the effective divorce if I bought it (not really-GF is very understanding), I'm not totally convinced on VR yet and I wouldn't want it throwing my 48 inch OLED screen around, even if it was rigid enough to do so. Looks amazing fun though, so I may change my mind 🙂

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You were correct with the binding issue. I've since resolved it. Good luck on your decision, hopefully your partner will support your hobby.

[@seattime4075]

You can leave your screen fixed. I have a motion rig mounted in front of 3 x 50 inch fixed screens, works great.

[@ColinDyckes]

@@VRFlightSimGuy She's very tolerant (so far 🙂). My racing rig is in the lounge and connected to the XBox Series X. Flight Sim setup is in a 'spare' bedroom. If I was as dedicated to VR as you are I would go for it. I don't think it's viable with a large TV as the display though.

[@activeprotagonist9258]

I often hear guys say things like this about their wives. You are worried about your gf letting you have your passions? I’m just curious… are you a masculine male or do you often seek her approval? It’s perfectly healthy to have passions and hobbies. It’s not like you are installing a bar and pool table in your house so that you and your buddies can get drunk and loud each night. I’m just trying to understand how such guys function and do they have any masculine confident male friends

[@ColinDyckes]

@@activeprotagonist9258 What a weird and condescending comment! I buy what I want, and can afford to do so (latest 13900K and 4090 cost over 5K), but ANYONE in a relationship should at least take their partner into consideration. For example, whilst I have my Sim Racing Rig on XBox in the lounge, with it's own dedicated screen, I wouldn't dream of inflicting a motion rig on her in this main room of the house! If I flew mainly in VR, I'd buy an H3 motion rig based on Steve's obvious positive response, and set it up in the spare room, but I'm not having a perfectly good 48 inch LG OLED vibrated to destruction by a motion rig. Maybe you should take your wife/GF's feelings into account more.

[@Leper_Messiah.]

So, do you recommend that VR headset over the HP Reverb V2? I’m in the market and deciding which VR to buy.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I have a video about that on my channel, so make sure you are subbed 👍

[@UkDave3856]

I’m seriously looking at the DOF P6 as a project for next winter

[@MikeInExile]

Same here. I just don't know how I'm going to get 220V from my circuit breaker panel which is downstairs to my simpit which is upstairs.

[@UkDave3856]

@@MikeInExile we’re fortunate in the UK as we get our mains electric at 240v straight from the grid to any outlet

[@MikeInExile]

@@UkDave3856 As long as you can get 2400 watts from the outlet, you should be good to go! Here in the States, (I'm in Texas), most of the outlets are 110 volts and 20 amps which only yields 2200 watts. But we also have split-phase which is _two_ 110 volt lines but 180* out of phase with each other. We use _that_ to run things like clothes dryers, electric ranges, air conditioners, and... motion simulators! ;-)

[@bookman_]

Great video! What racing seat do you use?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou :) I'm just using my Secret Labs Titan chair. However, it's not compatible with the H2, I had to drill a few extra holes.

[@scanx6163]

Please... How many FPS ? Which resolution ?

[@kane42nd58]

You need to start dogfighting in ww2 on 4YA overlord. With motion and vr it’s a workout!!!!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I have an IL-2 dogfight video coming soon :)

[@jlsdrusus]

In your 2D DOF, can you feel that the ball in the inclinometer is not centered?

[@woistwalter7037]

Nice video, buuuuut your landing looks hmmm.. not right?^^ Trim it to the correct AOA and then just fly it with the throttle. No flaring, no nose pulling. Only smooth gliding right into the deck.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks for the tips!

[@dirty_mike]

Did you ever address motion compensation? Or do you just keep your movement super low so you don't experience being tossed out of the cockpit as much?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I haven't got MC working yet, but with my base settings, it's not much of an issue for me anyway now. However, I will have a solution soon. I just need a few extra hours in the day ;)

[@dirty_mike]

@@VRFlightSimGuy looking forward to seeing what you come up with! Good luck

[@dizzychoonz]

always entertaining.. but why is/was there plastic peel over the front fans..what the hell does it stick to ????? 😯

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Steve! 😁

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's the front glass Steve, I'm peeling off the protective film. Always very satisfying when anything is brand new ;)

[@dizzychoonz]

@@VRFlightSimGuy but its covering fans ?? fans...glass front ??? you understand my confusion

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

​@@dizzychoonz I'm confused why you are confused Steve lol. I've still got mine attached on my new PC. It's just added protection over the glass panel.

[@paullarue4896]

Something was moving your rudder pedals. I don't thing your rudder pedals should be moving like that.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It was a throttle axis conflict :)

[@Mark_Point]

A control wipeout is also required in a SIM too.

[@yarra01]

Thanks for a great video. Can you advise how much of the graphics card memory DCS uses? I have an rtx 2080ti and DCS uses all the 11gb. I would love to know how much higher DCS goes. Be interesting to know how much of the XTX cards memory is used. I used task manager and double clicked on the gpu usage which brought up the detailed information.

[@alexsp7086]

I just want this now even more just to crash 😂 awesome

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

LOL

[@SimHangerFS]

Epic…! ❤

[@SDsc0rch]

2:25 and 4:55 what you came here for : )

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You missed the second takeoff with the extra surge ;)

[@chadvader974]

Does this help or worsen motion sickness

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I'd say it will help, since your body and brain are not conflicting.

[@belgeode]

WAVE OFF! WAVE OFF! WAVE OFF! 😳 STEVE, NOOOOOOOO!!! 😭😭😭

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I can see how much this is hurting you watching this LOL. Its amazing I made it at all, given my binding issue. That thing was out of control.

[@ProGamer-gc3wv]

hey dude how you can stream it in full window? When i stream it, it shows only a small window in the middle of my monitor. I mean, when i play in VR!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Sorry I do not currently offer tutorials on how to record VR content. Thanks for watching!

[@ProGamer-gc3wv]

@@VRFlightSimGuy ok that was an powerful answer!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@ProGamer-gc3wv I'm only ever honest and direct :) It's just a time thing sorry. I may create a guide someday, but it's low on the priority list.

[@ProGamer-gc3wv]

@@VRFlightSimGuy You just misunderstood me. I did not ask for tutorial. Just asked how you do that. The possible answer would be: Ey dude i use this program or this setting. Instead you did waste your time saying: Dude i have no time for tutorial. Anyway

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@ProGamer-gc3wv I wish it was that simple. But I'd need to go through the steps to explain how I do it 👍

[@Callsigntitan]

Is the 7900 xtx better then a 4070ti to run vr?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I feature both GPU's on the channel, might be worth a look to help you decide.

[@nigelkpvt]

This is the H2 (2 axis). Is there anyone that has compared the H3 (3 axis) model. Is not having yaw a critical thing. I haven’t found a place in Australia to test this prior to pulling the trigger and buying (and shipping😩😩)

[@douglasingram8881]

Steve, watch the video again at the moment you crash, notice how your seat is moving behind you, your notice as clear as day your actual instincts are to dial out the motion by counteracting the movement. So the effect you think you felt, is actually nothing like what the software was portraying. Until you strap on a 4 or 5 point harness your only ever going to get motion that your dumbing down for counter acting. Sorry to keep going over this over and over.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Rgr that, I am listening, I promise 😅

[@123thedman1]

Hi Douglas. I find what you said very interesting, not sure if i get my head around what your saying completely. The bit about the 4 or 5 point harnes in particular. Could you explain it in a way a none sim user would understand it a bit better ?

[@bobbyd6680]

@@123thedman1 Strapped into the seat with 4- or 5-point harness. Otherwise, your instinct is to counteract the movements, counter this by strapping in tight.

[@belgeode]

Was that a 4 wire on the last one?? 🤔

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It was A wire, let's leave it there 🤫😂

[@highs_and_lows4665]

How does this combo perform in fs2020?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I have videos on the channel. Make sure you are subbed.

[@highs_and_lows4665]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I've been a subscriber ever since Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic 😜

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@highs_and_lows4665 LOL and for that, I thankyou dearly :) Best bet is to watch my Bonanza video, I use the AMD system in the motion rig. I'm getting things dialed in very well now. Although it's not comparable to my own system, it is a grand cheaper.

[@highs_and_lows4665]

@@VRFlightSimGuy yes I've seen that video. Made me want to spend more money again. But if I remember correctly you were hidden behind a reverb g2 Ilo a Pico 4, no?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@highs_and_lows4665 Ahh yes that's a very good point!

[@belgeode]

Beep beep beep beep beep! 😳 Uhhhh.... Steeeeeve....

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Sometimes you've just gotta do these kinds of tests. That poor Hornet never stood a chance. 😅

[@bruswain9158]

For some reason I'm getting double vision on F3 flyby view in VR despite getting high frames

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yeah that's quite common, especially when using motion repro.

[@bruswain9158]

I worked out it was being caused by a steam VR setting

[@maxvogan8183]

Sounds so hot😮

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

What's hot?

[@wormeaten]

Thanks' m8.

[@christophed4579]

Where is the pilot ?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Good question. He's probably ran off

[@digitalsiler]

probably need a seat belt 😏

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You may be right :D

[@paulosantos8443]

My friend i got pico 4 end my pc 3080 rtx is not looking good my experience.pico 4 wiyh steam vr is so terrible

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's because your GPU is too low for the Pico 4 I'm sorry to say.

[@aitke12]

h2 is not even close to FULL MOTION..lol

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I'd say it's closer than you think when using it for a flight simulator, having experienced heave before, it didn't really add much to the experience. Equally, Yaw needs to be simulated correctly for it to feel right, unlike say, drifting in a car.

[@mrpleasurehead]

Did Colin get a hair cut Steve? Or is that another Dog?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's Doris 😅

[@mrpleasurehead]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Colin has a girlfriend!?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes and I fact, they made Monty (who also sometimes makes an appearance).

[@mrpleasurehead]

@@VRFlightSimGuy aww 😃

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@mrpleasurehead They all send their well wishes and lots of woofs :)