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@simenbo797 Сағат бұрын
Still on my trusty G2 hooked to a 4090. Works for me, but i do see the impoved image quality on the new vr tech. Is it worth the upgrade?
@terrylaven 2 сағат бұрын
Appreciate this great comparison video, Steve. Currently have a Reverb G2 and Q3; for its slightly lower resolution, the Q3 edges out the G2 in almost every respect. Plus, I'm on Windows 11 and understand Microsoft has announced the official end of WMR support for Win 11 (Win 10 users safe for now) so the G2 is End of line for me. Really want to see your deep dive into the HTC Focus Vision before setting my sights on a Q3 replacement, and also need to know if/when Pimax gets its quality issues completely sorted. Spending a lot of coin on a Pima headset only to have to send it back for a replacement is just not acceptable. (Having said that, I did have to return for exchange my first Quest 3 due to 'always on' pixel issues, so Pima isn't the only outfit with quality problems).
@themorethemerrier281 3 сағат бұрын
I feel like we'll better wait for the release of msfs2024 and see how it does first.
@solreaver83 4 сағат бұрын
I play warthunder air sim and have a choice. Quest 3 by Christmas or wait maybe 6 months and get pimax crystal. Is the pimax better enough in a combat sim for the price and wait time?
@pynio 5 сағат бұрын
How i can check my Pimax Crystal Light in terms of quality?
@VRFlightSimGuy 4 сағат бұрын
Does it look ok when you look through it? Most issues seem to be related to bad lenses.
@pynio 4 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy looks fine to me :) Everything is perfect clear. I don't know what I should pay attention to. :)
@mehmet_mesud 6 сағат бұрын
Steve, I bet you pre-ordered Flight simulator 2024 Aviator edition and you are rubbing your hands with the pleasure of having the most expensive and complicated vr headset on the market along with a shiny RTX 4090. 😌But this comfort is your right! Please do not deprive us of through the lens videos of each vr headset device you have as soon as flight sim 2024 is released... So that we know which vr device promises what at what price.
@VRFlightSimGuy 4 сағат бұрын
haha you may be surprised to know, I haven't actually pre ordered yet :)
@EritoKaio 10 сағат бұрын
Bit ago i mentioned my issue with pimax lenses so ill leave an update for people who are considering it: They were decently quick to reply, was about a day from me contacting via support website, they immediately told me they'd be sending me new lenses that i could replace myself (they have a video showing how to on their channel). All I did was send a recording using my phone's camera through the lenses showing the issue. The longest part is the shipping depending where you are, its coming from china I believe so it takes about a week for the courier here in EU to process the package before sending my way, so it'll take 3-4 weeks in total. Thankfully my lenses weren't bad to the point of being unusable, but a much smaller sweet spot than intended due to warping.
@VRFlightSimGuy 4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences
@turb0nasty887 12 сағат бұрын
is it xbox compatible?
@word2RG 13 сағат бұрын
. Valve .
@ComdrStew 14 сағат бұрын
G2 is still very good and was ahead of it's time. I bought a Q3 and it is still not as clear as the G2. Q3 is great on everything else VR, but for flight sims it is a little lacking. If it would had a direct GPU cable I think it would have been a lot better.
@VRFlightSimGuy 4 сағат бұрын
100% agree
@blockmuse 16 сағат бұрын
Great test. Thank you for the feedback.
@kevinbrook7033 16 сағат бұрын
Still rocking my Quest Pro going into 2025. I'm still happy with it and can't really afford both a high end new HMD and a 5090 so need to pick one or the other, at least for the next few months. Nothing else compels me to purchase yet, microOLED and top quality pancake optics essentials for me in an upgrade. I'll probably get the 5090. I assume we will need it for MSFS 2024 if we want ray tracing enabled and all the new graphical enhancements for the ground terrain.
@vangoghoff5521 16 сағат бұрын
My inserts were plastic, is this the case with other pimax crystal lite buyers from VRwave?
@jonr6472 16 сағат бұрын
After all the expected bad news with Pimax, im seriously considering spending $1000 more just to get a good quality VR1 and that extra FOV
@1SaG 17 сағат бұрын
IL-2 and DCS user here. I just upgraded to a Q3 (running a link-cable, of course) from a Reverb G2 and I couldn't be happier. Not only is the picture quality/clarity way better, there's also none of that "tiny sweetspot"-stuff going on with the Q3. So nice to be able to simply glance down at your instruments instead of having to tilt your entire head down to read those dials. Plus - and this really surprised me - my games run *so* much better now. I was using OpenComposite/OpenXR on the G2 already and still use it on the Q3, but I didn't change any other hardware. i7-14700KF, 32 GB of 3600 DDR4 and a 4070 Super ... and I'm getting rock solid 90 FPS in IL-2 in missions that would've made my G2 stutter down to 70 or 75 FPS in busy scenes. And that's in 90 Hz, at 1.4x resolution in the Oculus app with no NIS/FSR-nonsense in OpenXR Toolkit (just the CAS filter) *and* with higher in-game settings than I could run before. I even tried 120 Hz but at 1.2x resolution and that too ran very smoothly and at a constant 120 FPS. Haven't done much in DCS yet, but I did try an A-10 training mission on 90 Hz with just the stock "VR" preset selected and it too ran a constant 90 FPS. So far, I'm very impressed with this set - especially considering its price.
@jamieh8240 11 сағат бұрын
Wait to you go from a Reverb 2 to a Q3 and then to a Pimax Crystal like I did for IL-2. As good as the Q3 is, you'll never go back to it after the Pimax.
@1SaG 7 сағат бұрын
@@jamieh8240 Yeah... I know. A squaddie got a Crystal right around the time it launched and I got to try it at a LAN event. He hadn't optimized any settings yet, so performance in IL-2 was a bit choppy (even on his RTX 4090) but FOV and picture clarity were quite something on that thing. It was like looking at a 1440p or even 4k monitor - but in a VR environment. Problem is: 1700 EUR + another 1700 (more like 2000 these days) for the Crystal and a GPU to drive it? ... No thanks! :) Even if I add up the cost of both the Q3 and my current 4070 S, that wouldn't be nearly enough money to buy *either* the Crystal or the 4090.
@jamieh8240 6 сағат бұрын
@1SaG The Crystal does take a lot of tweeking to get it right (it took about 2 weeks for me) With the Q3 I used Steam Link, with the Crystal I'm using openXR. On a 4070 I'm getting around 85fps so it runs great. I only use the Crystal for flight sims and the Q3 for everything else as there certainly isn't anything wrong with the Q3.
@elmalloc 4 сағат бұрын
i think it is quest 3 for most not anything else
@fifesimracerguy455 17 сағат бұрын
Can’t even get my crystal light to show as connected in the Pimax software which
@gregprouse1173 18 сағат бұрын
Hey Steve. Your thumbnail in another video about the BSB had a price drop but I see there isn’t. Can you please eleaborate in this thumbnail or is it just clickbait lol 😂 jokes aside great video my friend.
@VRFlightSimGuy 8 сағат бұрын
Hey Greg. There is currently a small discount of about £57 if you use my discount code :)
@richnick1911 18 сағат бұрын
Can't wait for MSFS 2028 with new VR Headset.
@Stinky0368 18 сағат бұрын
Oh my god why do they have to be so fucking expensive just make them cheaper oh my god bro
@sirgriffinman 18 сағат бұрын
You cannot get a VR1 right now and we don't actually know when we will get it. If you order one now you won't get it before next year some time.
@seattime4075 18 сағат бұрын
Cannot go without mixed reality so I can also see my cockpit in VR, so it's still only Q3, until something else comes along.
@VRFlightSimGuy 18 сағат бұрын
It is a great feature that's hard to live without
@UnimportantAcc 18 сағат бұрын
Me with my Rift S 💀💀
@acratone8300 18 сағат бұрын
Simple question: I know the Quest 3 is not going to give the same great images as the Crystal Light. But which of those 2 headsets has the best fps performance? I'm guessing the CL will perform better with better fps, and therefore less likely to stutter or jitter.
@VRFlightSimGuy 18 сағат бұрын
CL 👍
@a5cent 10 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy How does a PCVR headset affect stuttering? It's just a fancy display. Moreover, how would a CL provide him a higher frame rate than a Quest 3, when a CL requires his GPU to push double the pixels? With the Quest 3 he'd be trading on sharpness for higher frame rates, but if higher frame rates are the primary concern, a lower end headset would be the better choice. Right? Or a better PC of course.
@mattiasrask1575 19 сағат бұрын
Will Crystal Light work on en old pc spec. Cpu intel Core i7 8700 @ 3.20GHz motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME B360M-K. Ram DDR4 16G B 1066 MHz X2 Tot 32GB hard drive seagate barracuda hybrid 2Tb and seagate barracuda hybrid 1Tb GPU AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT win10
@VRFlightSimGuy 18 сағат бұрын
Maybe, with the right settings. The 8700k is or was, a fantastic CPU in its day.
@mattiasrask1575 17 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Should I buy another headset its my first vr headset and AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT I recently bought as I had nivida rtx 2060 before
@Kango26 19 сағат бұрын
I picked up the Crystal Light can't wait for MSFS2024! Please 🙏 do best updated settings video for us 4090 simmers again.
@VRFlightSimGuy 19 сағат бұрын
Will do mate. Congratulations
@michaelduernecker684 19 сағат бұрын
Thank you. Now i have a Pimax Crystal light. Amazing. But it it is hard to find the IPD Sweetspot- In reverb G2 i have 67-68, in Crystal a have 61. Now Pimax send me new lenses.
@VRFlightSimGuy 19 сағат бұрын
Hey Michael, I hope the new lenses are OK. Keep us updated
@michaelduernecker684 17 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy But why, nobody speaking obout this problem? :-) Nice from Pimax say, we should do first, new lenses. If it ok for me. Maybe if this not ok, then a new Crystal. But my Crystal looks Amazing in MSFS. So deep Sharp. The only Problem is, to find the IPD Sweetspot. I have 61mm in Crystal an digital left right 1.7. And little bit "Zone" blurry. Sorry for my English.
@UneasyMusic 20 сағат бұрын
I have high hopes n Pimax Crystal Super, to the point I will try to get bundle when it's open for preorders, hopefully they will sort their QA process
@x32i77 20 сағат бұрын
And don't forget about the varjo Aero since it has better resolution in the distance than the crystal
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
I do not recommend the Aero anymore
@x32i77 20 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy why so it's super comfortable , has eye tracking and epic visuals .
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
@@x32i77 Varjo are ending the support very soon (end of the year), so I cannot recommend to my subs. If you already have one though, enjoy it as it's still great, but not worth a new purchase.
@x32i77 20 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy what will actually happen once there is no support ?
@strikkflypilot927 18 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuyFair. I am super happy with the Aero and will stick with it as long as it is working. I would also not risk recommending a discontinued product either, though.
@x32i77 20 сағат бұрын
If msfs 2024 gets dynamic foveated rendering implementation natively then the choice is pretty obvious . HTC Focus Vision, Pimax crystal OG , Somnium vr1 and crystal super and xr4 if you could get it before the price increase
@pauljackson1359 20 сағат бұрын
If your having trouble with your pimax , just send it back, LOL , that's going to take a while.
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
Not if you are on my Discord.
@eugenebeck9210 20 сағат бұрын
Waiting for the Pimax Super, micro OLED! ❤
@sailingflamenco 20 сағат бұрын
Me too!
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
You and me both!
@stefanobean4039 8 сағат бұрын
It would seem that the production of micro Oled displays has major limitations other than size, which means that the super oled will have a very narrow fov, no larger than Crystal. There are videos explaining these displays. And simply those to have a larger fov still do not exist. That's why they don't even state the fov of the micro oled version.
@LEmir_de_Passy 21 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
You're welcome!
@sebastiankallenbach1967 21 сағат бұрын
And what is with People that dont have an 4090 etc.? Iam on a 3080Ti and think about substitute My G2. But the Question is which one.
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
Crystal Light - I'll have a video on this next.
@sebastiankallenbach1967 20 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy What This can run Crystal light ok i curios for the Video :-) Thx
@Jim610 21 сағат бұрын
I wish I could agree with you on the Pimax Crystal Light! I have one and even after a month of Pimax helping me by sending thicker facial foam pads is just simply doesn't fit the shape of my face. It is so wide it need clamping so tight to stop it flopping side to side it hurts and then the advantage of the thicker foam to stop it resting on my eyes is lost. All that and I don't feel my head is exceptionally unusual, Reverb G2 fits really comtortably. Trying to return it but Pimax have now gone comms silent!
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
I find the CL to be very comfy, you don't need to clamp it to your face at all, for me, it sits on my head like a cap and it's not on tight at all. But like a pair of shoes, everyone is different. Maybe check out my comfort mods, I have a video on the channel. Best of luck.
@lorsch. 19 сағат бұрын
Get the comfort mods (or mod it yourself, there might be another smaller foam included which you could cut in shape to fill the gaps), it's not worth sending it back if this is the only issue
@acratone8300 18 сағат бұрын
I have a thin face. My Crystal Light fits perfect and stays put when I move my head.
@Jim610 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks for all the comments guys but the last thing I expected when paying nearly £1000 was to get a DIY upholstery project. The fit is just the start of it and if I could have fixed that within the return period, initially 14 days extended to 1 month by Pimax, I would have persevered but alas I couldn't in the time allowed and I'm not going to risk being stuck with such an expensive item that doesn't work for me. I'm not as experienced with VR HMDs as some of you but this CL would be my 4th (starting way back in the Rift CV1 days) and the only one that needed anything other than settings tweaking out of the box.
@miroslawpasek7004 21 сағат бұрын
Dude - I’m getting Crystal Light, with a high end PC: waiting for RTX 5080 and the new Ryzen X3D - they’re coming soon (I guess)
@gregprouse1173 18 сағат бұрын
Prosze lol
@kevinbrook7033 16 сағат бұрын
5080 eww, you mean the incorrectly named 5070? If the leaks are accurate that 5080 is literally half a 5090.
@manu_le_maboul 12 сағат бұрын
@@kevinbrook7033 and also half the price, same as 4090 / 4080.
@elmalloc 4 сағат бұрын
@@kevinbrook7033 he cannot afford more
@jarrodclyne707 21 сағат бұрын
How could people trust Varjo for consumer purposes after the Aero discontinuation?
@royevans1882 6 сағат бұрын
I understand the problem. All companies discontinue a product after a certain time.
@cedrick7679 21 сағат бұрын
pimax super oled with 57 PPI and pancake lenses !! 😍😍😍 (Somnium is very good but aspherical lenses.. no thanks)
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
Fair enough!
@SargonDragon 19 сағат бұрын
You could be waiting a long time. Possibly forever. See the history of the 12K.
@cedrick7679 18 сағат бұрын
@@SargonDragon Look at the history of the Pimax Crystal Light, that story had a happy ending, why wouldn't it be the same with the Pimax Crystal Super? I bought the Varjo Aero, then the Pimax Crystal (the first one), and I sold both headsets because of those damn aspheric lenses. From now on, I'll never buy VR headsets with aspheric lenses again, it'll be pancake lenses or nothing. And if all VR headsets come out with aspheric lenses for the next 10 years, well, I'll just keep using my Quest 3, it'll be a nice saving :)
@SargonDragon 17 сағат бұрын
@@cedrick7679 The Crystal Light is the first time Pimax ever released a product anywhere near when they said they would. And this was a product that was _deleting_ features from the previous Crystal rather than adding new ones. Which is also the first time Pimax has ever done _that._ So there's a big question here as to whether Pimax has turned over a new leaf or whether the Crystal Light was timely only because of the special nature of it. The Crystal Super was supposed to release in September according to the same announcement. How's that going? But besides the Crystal Super in general, Pimax was also really unspecific about the OLED module's specifications and timeline. And they've said the OLED module will be releasing later after the QLED module. If you look at Pimax's history with that sort of thing... I'm not saying it's impossible that they'll release it soon after, but it would be the first time in their history. It matches the pattern of other perpetually "just around the corner" Pimax products. Sometimes the products this company announces are real and sometimes they're vaporware.
@theegodelpozo 13 сағат бұрын
@@cedrick7679 if you can't stand aspheric lenses you might have hypermetropia.
@pumpkineater23 21 сағат бұрын
VR flight simulation relies heavily on having a high-performance PC, which is expensive. I wonder when we’ll see the first true VR flight sim streaming platform. Meta should really explore this idea.
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
Asobo isn't too far off with 2024 (kidding obv)
@phillipbeharall6271 20 сағат бұрын
aerofly fs 4 steam seamless and high fps
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
@@phillipbeharall6271 I agree, but it's limited.
@phillipbeharall6271 17 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy yes it is but if I want a quick VR helicopter trip it works great from clicking on Aerofly fs 2 I am flying in less than 2min and 100fps on ultra,I have a Intel i7 10700K 3.8Ghz/5.1 Ghz CPU NVidia RTX2080 SUPER but a lot of folks have a lot less so it's still a good sim for the money. I used to play on my oculus rift S I now have a Quest 3 . It's not MSFS 2020 ,but anyone on a budget can get it from steam the can get a full refund if they don't like it 14days and less than 2hrs play. Also the Aerofly fs 4 was on sale steam keep up the good work I am a subscriber 👏👏👏♥️♥️
@jarrodclyne707 21 сағат бұрын
Crystal Pimax Light with a 5090?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
Can you imagine? I may have something to show early next year once I get my hands on one.
@chatterinski 21 сағат бұрын
So I'm looking to get a new headset, currently a Quest 1, but am still running MSFS on a Ryzen 9 3900XT with an RTX2080S. Would I be better upgrading the PC first or would say a Quest 3 run OK on my PC?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
A better PC would certainly help, as unfortunately one affects the other, especially when you bump up those resolution.
@pj8227 21 сағат бұрын
Where in the U.K can you try VR headsets before paying out big money to experience it?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
I don't think you can, I guess that's why channels like mine are so helpful.
@MrHughes500 21 сағат бұрын
Hi do I need lenses for my pimax crystal light..I only use reading glasses .do not have headset yet.
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
Hi, you can get lens inserts for the CL, VR Wave are a channel sponsor SO I have 5% off, however, they will stick out a bit so you will need a thicker facial foam than the stock one. I still think it's a much better solution than wearing your glasses as you will run the risk of scratching your headset lenses.
@SargonDragon 21 сағат бұрын
The focus distance of the Crystal Light is 1 meter. So however you are able to see at 1 meter distance without your glasses is how well you will see in the Crystal Light without lens inserts.
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z 21 сағат бұрын
still on my Vive Pro 2... tried the Quest 3 but i was not happy with the image quality both with link cable and WiFi (though not 6e, just 6). Ditched it and returned to VP2, even though lenses are much worse
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
Glad you are still enjoying it.
@MrMarkaverett 21 сағат бұрын
Steve, thank you for another great comparison video. I bought the Varjo Aero years ago after watching your review, also with the Pimax Crystal. I just ordered the Somnium VR1 with eye tracking. You have been spot on with your reviews and that makes it easier to make decisions about purchases. The sound isn't an issue for me because I use Steel Series Arena 7 gaming speakers behind my DOF. I like hearing the monster base it makes when the engines spool up!!
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
Thankyou so much, that really means a lot. Congrats on the VR1, looks like you are all set for MSFS 2024 mate.
@Dachopper_ 21 сағат бұрын
Sure blue light filters will help with eye strain but wouldn’t they ruin your visual experience and immersion?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
Negative, you do not see any change in colour
@Dachopper_ 21 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuythat would be fantastic. I didn’t think that was the case as I wear blue light filters at night which makes my screen appear ‘warmer’ than what it is. Do they make them with prescription lenses or are they seperate? If so, can you load both into the HMD together?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
@@Dachopper_ Yes you can add in your prescription lens and they will fit nicely onto your VR headset's lenses. Since I don't wear glasses, I use 'plano' inserts, so I can still benefit from protecting the VR headset's lenses from scratches and blue light. Cheers.
@Dachopper_ 21 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Sorry I meant would you know if they do a prescription lens with a blue light filter so you can play with both or does it have to be one or the other? Hope that makes sense
@VRFlightSimGuy 20 сағат бұрын
@@Dachopper_ You can have both ... and anti glare too.
@gyeltsen 21 сағат бұрын
It would be nice to see how you install the Bobo VR M2 Pro head strap to the Somnium VR-1. What audio/microphone solution do you recommend for the VR-1?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
It's very easy, the strap just slips right onto the main arms.
@freeqtek 22 сағат бұрын
I'm trying to choose the right laptop for MSFS VR, price under $2000. What should I look for and avoid when deciding a laptop for VR or MSFS?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
No idea sorry.
@freeqtek 21 сағат бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy No Worries, thanks.
@jarrodclyne707 21 сағат бұрын
@@freeqtek Make sure it has DP input, even then some have issues
@cosmic4037 22 сағат бұрын
Number one consideration Budget, everything else a bonus.
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
That's why I've shown a wide variety of VR headsets in this video. But factor in your PC system too.
@MarcL1313 22 сағат бұрын
Can you adjust the brightness/contrast to lower the glare if needed in the Bigscreen Beyond?
@VRFlightSimGuy 21 сағат бұрын
You can adjust the brightness yes. Glare depends on the scene.
@SargonDragon 21 сағат бұрын
Reducing brightness on the Beyond does lower glare. And up to a point, because it has a perfect 3D printed light seal for your face, the headset will not seem less bright because your eyes adjust. Glare is also reduced by getting your eyes closer to the lenses. You can order thinner cushions from Bigscreen, and they'll reuse your previous face scan to make the new cushion. Ideally, your eye lashes would be just short of touching the lenses. However, even at best, the glare does not go away. It is definitely the achilles heel of the Beyond. In my opinion, it's still the overall best VR headset on the market anyway despite this. But that opinion is going to be affected a lot by however much glare bothers you.
@SparkySven 22 сағат бұрын
First like :-) watching. Cant wait to fly in msfs2024. Did you pre order it alreasdy? I did and still not get access to the fire fighting bird yet.
@CaptainBiggles. 22 сағат бұрын
Second 👍🏼
@VRFlightSimGuy 22 сағат бұрын
Cheers mate!
@JMFRO92 22 сағат бұрын
I have an index, should I upgrade to the big screen or meta quest 3?