I crashed my Viper 90. Don't overlook this setting in your BNF plane!

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Skybound RC - Juan Sanchez

Skybound RC - Juan Sanchez

11 ай бұрын

Not the video I was planning to make of my Horizon Hobby E-Flite Viper 90mm, but I thought this information about the details of the Failsafe might be helpful for some people. At the minimum, you get to see an rc plane crash :-)

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@mikecamrcplus3057
@mikecamrcplus3057 11 ай бұрын
lol Spektrum still killing airplanes. 14 years ago I watched the original DSM kill some planes. DSM2 did not get much better and even when DSMX came out those unexplained crashes continued. I had a friend on the DX9 when it first come out crash a beautiful 1/5 scale TF spitfire. He had left stick, throttle and rudder but no right stick, ailerons and elevator. Sent it in and got the customary " we could find nothing wrong but swapped out the RF deck for you anyway " He sold it. Bought a Jeti and no issues since. I bought a futaba. I have never had a loss of signal with thousands of hours on all my planes. Only issue ever was a bad spark plug boot on my warbird. Gave me some minor glitching but was still able to land her. I now put a simple pipe clamp on all my plugs on my gassers and no issues since. Used to be that when binding the plane's spektrum Rx to the Tx that set the failsafe. But if after the first binding you had to adjust trim on first flight or the worst was having to reverse a servo it would really change the failsafe settings, especially with expo added. We used to tell guys to do the maiden flight and when all was trimmed good with servo's set for proper direction to then do a final rebind to reset the failsafes to all the new proper settings. Good luck.
@Holliethedog
@Holliethedog 5 ай бұрын
@mikecamrcplus3057 -Futaba is expensive, but it never fails.
@Ricksworldtv
@Ricksworldtv 11 ай бұрын
On my jets I've replaced the receivers with duel antenna ones like the AR637T or the AR8360T. I also added integerated remote receivers just behind the nose cone too. My frame losses went from the hundreds to 18 or less for every flight now. With these receivers I also have the added benefit of monitoring my flight pack voltage.
@davidmcneill3809
@davidmcneill3809 Ай бұрын
The fail safe standard setup makes since. I had a controller power off due to a faulty power switch. Watch a jet fly away. If I had a slight turn at least it may had flown back enough to recover. As in any thing in life, there is no perfect answer. Except as experienced as you are, you could break the receiver and set up failsafe like you want or just turn it off.
@alwaysflying6540
@alwaysflying6540 8 ай бұрын
Sorry you lost control of your model. I always set my receivers to hold last position with the exception of throttle. I want the throttle to go to the low position so I can hear that the aircraft went into failsafe.
@TheLostSquadron
@TheLostSquadron 11 ай бұрын
I fly using a TX16 w/Multi Protocol module, and transitioned some Radian sailplanes to other receivers. They worked great with my radio, but I wanted a receiver with a Vario and some other features no on the Spektrum receivers. He's flying a Spektrum DX series radio and couldn't shut off some of the SAFE features which I was able to bypass using a non-Spektrum radio. We'd rebind the receivers according to the "SAFE-Off" settings in the Radians manual, but at the next power cycle they would be re-enabled. It's crazy that the Spektrum Rx's worked better with my 3rd party radio than the radio of the company that made them. He gave the Rx's back to me after a couple tries. He doesn't have the cable to connect them to a computer to adjust the settings, but the Safe Off binding worked on my TX16s. Crazy.
@TheLostSquadron
@TheLostSquadron 11 ай бұрын
@@txkflier Maybe he doesn't understand the problem... I didn't have a problem.
@TheLostSquadron
@TheLostSquadron 11 ай бұрын
@@txkflier I can turn SAFE on/off just like the Spektrum instructions say (I thinl something to do with removing the binding plug before or after removing power). I was able to shut it off permanently using TX16, when my friend does it with his DX6 it defaults back to SAFE after one flight.
@putzytart
@putzytart 4 ай бұрын
I like the concept of safe failsafe, I guess in your situation where in a low inverted pass it’s not what you want though. I would suggest though that at that altitude and inverted if failsafe kicks in you are going to crash no matter what your failsafe is….
@Cubanito_RC
@Cubanito_RC 11 ай бұрын
Ohhh...valla amigo 😢 lamento el la pérdida de tu modelo... Realmente si parecía muy divertido el vuelo. Yo te aconsejo pasar a utilizar los receptores ELRS/PWM con una radio como la Radiomaster TX16S versión multiprotocolo interno 4 in 1 (por si aún deseas utilizar algunos receptores Spektrum) y añadir el módulo externo ELRS para los receptores que te mencioné... Te aseguro que con ELRS no vas a tener perdidas de señal (investiga un poco y verás, rcvídeoreviews te puede ayudar). Y con la radio vas a obtener algo que tiene Miles de posibilidades de configuración mejor que spektrum (además de que está bien construída) vale muchísimo menos que los equipos spektrum (tanto radio como receptores). Saludos desde Cuba 🇨🇺
@skyboundrc
@skyboundrc 11 ай бұрын
Gracias por el consejo! Desde luego tengo que echar un vistazo a las distintas opciones de emisora para el futuro
@ianadkins3329
@ianadkins3329 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Good to be aware of this as I've just brought one.
@skyboundrc
@skyboundrc 6 ай бұрын
the plane itself is great. Enjoy it!
@stevenk3140
@stevenk3140 11 ай бұрын
Awesome informative video. Did you telemetry show any holds? Thank you
@skyboundrc
@skyboundrc 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I immediately assumed that this was a servo problem and turned off cameras and transmitter before I thought of checking telemetry in my TX. As I didn't have an SD card at the time of the crash, I don't think I'm able to retrieve any telemetry logs at this point... Lesson learned
@kmatch1
@kmatch1 11 ай бұрын
I just had a 631 rx replaced due to intermittent holds with low to zero frame losses. It was in a 3dhs Slick and went into holds for only a split second - just long enough to hear the throttle drop then resume. I use an audio feedback on all of my planes to keep track of this data so I knew as soon as it went into hold. A new receiver was put in exactly the same way with zero issues. Mine was happening around 1-200 ft away. Yours was close enough to hit with a rock… I vote for failed rx.
@skyboundrc
@skyboundrc 11 ай бұрын
it's interesting (and concerning) to hear that you were running into those intermittent issues. I might look into that audio feedback, seems like a good way to ensure you're aware of what's happening with the connection
@kmatch1
@kmatch1 11 ай бұрын
As a suggestion, I have the radio set to call out after x number of fades and holds, x varying on fades based on type of plane setup and x being 1 for holds on all of them. And I have a callout set to switches such as throttle cut so I don’t forget about it after a flight and the I button so I can check fades from time to time when I do remember. Some places I fly are less friendly and fades can go up so it’s good to keep track - but I need reminders.
@tonym995
@tonym995 Ай бұрын
Sucks that happened. How old is that transmitter? None of this stuff lasts forever and crap happens.
@israeljuarez3707
@israeljuarez3707 10 ай бұрын
This is why I don't use any Spektrum receivers with SAFE or AS3X. All my non glider planes have the traditional AR620 ones-no SAFE, no AS3X. No issues at all. With the SAFE/AS3X ones I had nothing but drama: uncommanded maneuvers, brownouts, glitches-all at random intervals. I replaced all these receivers and no more drama and zero issues. I buy all my planes PNP.
@702Wolfi
@702Wolfi 2 ай бұрын
I got rid of my Rektum stuff years ago.
@ficosk8
@ficosk8 3 ай бұрын
Bueno saberlo!
@readytext
@readytext 11 ай бұрын
I believe on my Extra 300 failsafe defaults to hold last, throttle off. Just as dangerous in this case!
@skyboundrc
@skyboundrc 11 ай бұрын
Definitely inverted that low is not a good place to go into failsafe regardless of the setting... :-(
@timwrightjetguy
@timwrightjetguy 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think hold last may have saved this airplane if it regained signal within a few seconds. The roll killed it. Juan is an expert and the Viper was a victim of a bad bnf program in my opinion.
@simons6208
@simons6208 5 ай бұрын
This happened to me with the pitts S2 UMX by plane ON DX8 Transmitter the plane stopped responding rolled right and crashes quite hard thank goodness for hot glue gun . Was able to repair for air worthiness. Although I don't have such a beautiful plane any more.
@Rc-Skymaster
@Rc-Skymaster 6 ай бұрын
NOSE ME PASO ALGO SIMILAR CON UN CITACION DESDATENCION AL CLIENTE PO TEMA DE GARANTUAE LUEGO HORIZONT HOBBY TIENE MUY MALA ATENCION AL CLIENTE NO RESOLVEN NADA PARA LOS CLIENTES FUERA DE USA
@superdon1chw
@superdon1chw 5 ай бұрын
It is to bad you hole screen was not visible would of been interesting. I had problem my self that's why I don't fly big stuff anymore
@jayb2617
@jayb2617 10 ай бұрын
spectrum all over, never trusted it. used it a few times and had too many unexplained control loses. will stick to futaba
@jjames5928
@jjames5928 2 ай бұрын
Typical spektrum. Been seeing this more and more. There is no reason it should have lost signal . That's why I stick to FrSky
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 11 ай бұрын
Failsafe is whatever you choose to set it to... You guys in America are living in the dark ages, still using Spectrum Radios which are known to have poor range and high failure rates....🤔😮😮😳🙄😏🇬🇧
@jeffs7915
@jeffs7915 11 ай бұрын
I too have seen what you describe, never a dull moment when Spectrum radios are in use.
@crunch6947
@crunch6947 11 ай бұрын
this is why i do not fly spectrum radios they are glitchy you lose connection and goes to safe every one at our field has lost planes from spectrum radios FRSKY works great dump your spektrum ASAP
@alexyanguas2950
@alexyanguas2950 11 ай бұрын
Deja de usar spektrum amigo...
@skycrafthobbies1
@skycrafthobbies1 11 ай бұрын
you would have crashed anyway
@DRDRACINGHEADS
@DRDRACINGHEADS 10 ай бұрын
Spectrum is junk, over marketed crap, buy Jeti and be done!
@alwaysflying6540
@alwaysflying6540 8 ай бұрын
This is not true. Most often times it's user error. In my opinion there are far more newbs using spektrum equipment and don't know what they are doing or miss a step in the setup. I notice that they run their batteries completely flat or use a battery that's not suitable for the application. The guys that use jeti or other high end equipment have the knowledge or know exactly what to look for or what may cause a potential problem so the crashes are less. A lot less lol. I was using spektrum for over a decade and only had one lockout ever. And that was on a recalled reciever that I overlooked. I've since switched to radiomaster and I'm learning all about open source and I've never looked back. You are absolutely right about the marketing. They sure know how to take our money with a lot of unnecessary purchases.
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