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@adamhenrie3879 Жыл бұрын
22:18 me: “oh god he’s screwed” thermy: *holds attack with ease* “this is the worst build”
@amythystmiriel Жыл бұрын
TIL maxing out on mass marines and attacking at the front is a cheese
@bond0815 Жыл бұрын
I mean its obviously OP, thats why only mass marine terrans win every SCII trophy. Poor fear, no way for him to win against such unfair imbalance ;D
@gp123lIlI Жыл бұрын
Lmao mark is ultimate troll
@Spanky00Cheeks Жыл бұрын
Til?
@imzesok Жыл бұрын
@@Spanky00Cheeks TIL= Today I Learned
@Tum0spoo Жыл бұрын
@@Spanky00Cheeks "Today I Learned" T.I.L.
@JR44444 Жыл бұрын
I love how he gets a little upset when his opponents make mistakes. I know it's partially because he wants good content but i think he's just a good sport as well. I think his chill attitude just makes everything so much more enjoyable to watch.
@faithful451 Жыл бұрын
Ikr literally the most upset I've ever seen him get in all videos was against that protoss build in game 2. "This is the worst build of all time" lmao he was actually speechless for a few seconds
@jaxelt12 ай бұрын
He wants to have fun and it's not very fun to curbstomp an opponent that can barely defend themselves, haha
@luisfilipe756 Жыл бұрын
You "hindered" his economy is exactly right. Dunno if it is a Dutch word, but it is definitely an English word describing exactly what you did to his economy.
@Kerostasis Жыл бұрын
And your second choice "stunted" was also correct English.
@hogie48 Жыл бұрын
Not only is it correct, it is maybe the proper way of saying it? "Hindered" is such an elegant way of describing it.
@prism223 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Dutch, German, and English are all basically brother languages from the same Germanic root language, so it makes sense why they share so many words/language constructs/sounds.
@Sheepshead18 Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I feel like the exact word uThermy was looking for was "stymied."
@teeheee2 Жыл бұрын
Yup to everything above We steal words all the time. Lets just make one unified language already.
@cjamesfox Жыл бұрын
Thermal shitting on NA builds... that proxy DT was perfect timing... you only had like 50 marines to defend
@ieaturanium574 Жыл бұрын
poor fear... i think he was prepared but still didn't help him. uthermal makes this look so easy, lol
@kindlin Жыл бұрын
Thermy said in another video that he was the first person to ever hit 7k MMR. So, these ~5k players are in for some hurt in anything but a destroy maneuver.
@sorsocksfake Жыл бұрын
He made some good plays, improved, and gave Thermy a tough time. Great matches, and I can get being frustrated at getting beaten by a starting tier unit. This could make for a good IODIS frankly. Not so much that marines can't be countered, but they're a starting unit that's cheap and gasless, shoots up, has big DPS, reasonably fast, upgrades well, great synergy with medivacs and scans... I reckon if you could make only one unit, marines would be among the best options.
@shiinondogewalker2809 Жыл бұрын
@@sorsocksfake well the medivac synergy goes away unless you allow yourself two types of units
@alexanderpierce6886 Жыл бұрын
With all those orbitals you could scan the tanks that are spread out and fire mules at them so the tanks shoot each other and your opponent may unsiege to stop them from firing and then stim in with your marines to clean everything up. Lol.
@joshuadalton6063 Жыл бұрын
Have seen this strat used before, or maybe it was with raven turrets, but yeah a whole tank line basically friendly fired itself :D
@edibleapeman Жыл бұрын
You need to seriously consider incorporating more marines into your build.
@davidjones5059 Жыл бұрын
and few widow mines at home to protect from fleet
@ike0072 Жыл бұрын
1st Game is a perfect example of why rushing 2-2 is SO important. There is no counter to 2-2 Rush on Mass Marines. It seems in-efficient at first but quickly hits a HUGE timing that in midgame is almost impossible to beat without Coloss, Seige tanks or Banelings.
@AXharoth Жыл бұрын
this guy is probably a TotalBiscuit fan
@TheMuffinman191 Жыл бұрын
Not banelings, banelings are super unreliable. Lurkers with range or Ultras.
@chrisgriffith1573 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMuffinman191 Lurkers are like invisible tanks.
@henningbreede6428 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is some low level statement.
@ACEYGAMES Жыл бұрын
To be contrary, uthermal got alot of damage in before the 2-2 rines and his opponent never attacked once. Also his opponent never switched into high tank production against what he saw a mass marine army. Also as uthermal said his opponent never built a single sensor tower against what they knew to be a high mobility army which could be crushed for free with advanced warning. So yeah marines are good, but there's alot more going on then there is no counter.
@krunkcleanup2949 Жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad about the short games, they are still very instructive. That 3 bunker defense is something most people never would have thought of!
@IamKnucks Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this channel is growing. It's maybe one of the most underrated channels out there. This is grandmaster quality content from a grandmaster quality creator.
@luckylarry71 Жыл бұрын
g1 was hilarious: the 'mass marine dude' vs 'campaign style dude' freaking each other out. Loved it
@utubefuku7132 Жыл бұрын
22:52 the face of disappointment... priceless
@yeoldmanriver4881 Жыл бұрын
That Fear guy thinks that was a cheese? Good thing he was blessed by you playing on another server for your Cheese to GM series.
@scottrussell360 Жыл бұрын
Stunted and hindered both work in that context 👌, wish i could speak a second language half as well.
@ssvensic Жыл бұрын
I have watched all of your videos, haven't played a single multiplayer game of SC2 in my life hahhahhaahah
@rarechange Жыл бұрын
Never played star craft or want to, but i do enjoy your game strategy and commentary! keep it up man
@bornts8944 Жыл бұрын
it's fun until you play against high mmr than it becomes impossible without hours of dedication
@paulkeilman4888 Жыл бұрын
If it ever comes to the point where you have to move to phase 2 in any matchup. I think building a raven for anti-armor missile would be extremely powerful if controlled well. Assuming upgrades are equal, minus 3 armor would be a 50% increase in base damage output for a marine, and if you can get a decent engagement with stim that jumps to 2.25 times the base DPS for a marine.
@sorsocksfake Жыл бұрын
2 armor or 3? Anyway to add: interference matrix may be just as important. In TvT 'just' disable the tanks before running in (as well as BCs); likewise against protoss. Zerg may be the biggest issue there... not sure how ravens would help much against banes and lurkers? Banshees strike me as another option. If your opponent doesn't invest in detection or AA because he's playing against marines anyway, banshees could be outright cruel.
@paulkeilman4888 Жыл бұрын
@@sorsocksfake You're right, it's minus 3. I was thinking of guardian shield which gives plus 2 armor. I'll edit my previous comment. I would argue that ravens would be the most effective against zerg, until the late game when vipers typically come in play, because their detection ability allows for small hit squads to constantly clear creep without using scans. Therefore saving that energy for additional mules. I think that if Uthermal were to use this he might limit himself to 1 raven at a time, so that this challenge doesn't turn into the bio version of raven/hellion to GM.
@Hottzor Жыл бұрын
My day get's so much better at 1pm when Thermie uploads!
@faithful451 Жыл бұрын
37:09 both stunted and hindered are great words for what you did.
@GreenSoup2HoT Жыл бұрын
these challenges i find are so biased because uThermal is literally god tier at the game. some pro's are scared of him imo. thermal has such a good mind for the game. probably the most tactical, analytical player ive seen play the game.
@indnwkybrd Жыл бұрын
hinder: to create difficulties for (someone or something), resulting in delay or obstruction. It's actually a perfect word to describe what you did. Fascinating to learn that it's also a word in Dutch that means the same thing... you learn something new every day! I would love to hear you speak Dutch :)
@Ryan-zb8gq Жыл бұрын
Definitely excited for an episode where you get 3/3 as fast as you can for the marines! Imagine the shock of your opponents when your marines start hitting like a truck early on xD
Love your vids uTherm! Keep up the great plays! Best part of it all is your chill attitude throughout no matter what.
@lilkoolaidbro Жыл бұрын
I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO QUIT WHEN YOU SOILED HIS CHEESE. I CALLED IT.
@nebroht2470 Жыл бұрын
22:50 is sad. You aren't angry, you're just disappointed.
@NoHighHighlight Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos, uThermal! Very good commentary! I love when you go back and review your opponents builds or choices. A request: when you say "don't do this build" (meaning your opponent's) could you expand on why for those of us that don't play SC2 and don't know why the build was bad? Keep up the great work!
@milletmongoose Жыл бұрын
Content idea: I think it would be cool if one of your opponents, like fear, would ask you for coaching and you two can record that session for the channel. Not sure if anyone else would like that, but I know I would.
@bronzecomeshome9517 Жыл бұрын
Thermy sells coaching lessons so could probably just show a coaching session if the buyer agreed to it. Not bad for advertising either.
@milletmongoose Жыл бұрын
@@bronzecomeshome9517 Indeed
@theelvensong4328 Жыл бұрын
The only thing to fear is fear itself! Good job!
@dbang69 Жыл бұрын
Marc, I look forward to watching your videos everyday. It's my favorite content. By the way, your grammar has been perfect every time you weren't sure in your challenge videos. 👍
@glados4765 Жыл бұрын
You have to go to silver and gold for the salt. It's a ton of ppl still learning and the toxicity is just *chef's kiss*
@toteu00000 Жыл бұрын
Man i really love your channel! It popped out of the blue in recomandations, i don't watch SC2 content at all. StarCraft BW was my favorite game of all time then SC2 until HotS I stopped playing when Legacy of the Void came out, cause they changed it too much. Now i might even give it a try, after almost 7 years. Thank you!!
@UbergamR447 Жыл бұрын
3:40 "All went to crap" says it with 12 - 0 :D love your videos!
@jeepersitsmeepers Жыл бұрын
Hello! I am a new subscriber the algorithm threw your content at about 2 weeks ago. I haven't played SC2 since I was... I don't know, 11? I played for 2 years when Wings of Liberty came out and even then I never played multiplayer. Would you be kind enough to break down some of the lingo every now and then for newer people? Like, I googled it and it seems to refer to the next base right below the map, but apparently there can sometimes be more than one and it seems a bit confusing. Naturally, I will learn as I watch, but small interjections for people like me may continue to make your content popular!
@travisjacobson682 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure if you ask in the comments people will help you out
@uzunpapi2859 Жыл бұрын
Seasoned pun enjoyer 🦍🤝
@kindlin Жыл бұрын
Your 2 replies seem to have been deleted, so lets try this again. All bases are numbered in the order they are set down on the map, location INdependent (I find this weird, personally, but this is what I've seen from casters). They go: Main (the base you start with), Natural, what you could call your 2nd if you wanted to (typically in front of your main, but could be "at your 3rd" if your natural is blocked, or you could be cheesing), 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. The number of bases up at any given time is a good indicator of the stage of the game you're trying to pursue (early, mid, late) and what units you're trying to get out on the map.
@OsOkod Жыл бұрын
Uthermal you say you read every commentary so : here i go again, that guy from Game 3 was - Terran Vs Terran, as myself as a Terran, KNOW how it SUCKS to play TvsT So most people dont enjoy this matchup cause of the probably losing after fail first drop or so, nobody like macrogames in TvsT cause they all end up in turtling, so most TvsT will end up in cheese.
@laixfvic Жыл бұрын
"I annoyed his economy" uthermal ur my favorite player now lmao
@tiredeals5020 Жыл бұрын
Love the mass marine challenge reminds me of old school brood war
@maximk99645 ай бұрын
"I never get salt" -> gets salt in that very game 😂
@bencheevers6693 Жыл бұрын
Every word you said that you didn't think was right or was a dutch word was correct and meant exactly what you meant to say, stopped, stunted, hindered, annoyed
@disinformationworld9378 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a tip. Use mule drops against tanks. They will attack their own army or un-seige.
@Irisfantasies Жыл бұрын
Thats manner muling my man... Thats just bm
@Kerostasis Жыл бұрын
@@Irisfantasies Manner muling is dropping a mule for zero tactical advantage, just to say you can win even with the waste. I don't think that covers using them as weapons...
@Lost7one Жыл бұрын
this dude "Fear" is joke, silliest player I have seen on ladder for at least 4-5 years.
@michaellynch11323 ай бұрын
hindered is a perfectly good english word that fits the meaning you were looking for. slowed would probably also work.
@KonadorAuchindoun Жыл бұрын
That protoss game was so bizarre lol
@gabrielbaltariu2430 Жыл бұрын
"Just play like me, guys, it's easy" says God...
@contemplate1789 Жыл бұрын
Highest level of play, commenting and fun! 👍
@sithewiseguy Жыл бұрын
Question for you uThermal! When putting turrets in mineral line, wouldn't this affect SCV travel distance? Meaning 16/16 is not actually full saturation?
@joshuadalton6063 Жыл бұрын
It does, but it only really drops it by a couple percent minerals per minute. I think the maths was worked out on TeamLiquid forums somewhere if you want to check, but basically it isn't worth putting 17th SCV because it spends most of the time re-pathing to another patch. In theory if a player had infinite APM spare to manually micro the SCV then it would get them ahead, but no one has that spare APM and over an average match the turret being there might cost 50 minerals which is nothing after 15 minutes.
@leoyu727 Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that one BC could have more than 200 marines onboard if they are the real size
@patoguzman4275 Жыл бұрын
love when UTH say: oohhh noooo
@DanielScholtus Жыл бұрын
I think his last attempt to go for your production was a smart move, although he couldn't execute well enough.
@ashenone8178 Жыл бұрын
MFW I've never played SC2 and I still watch all your videos. That's how good you are. Hope you read this comment! (maybe I'll try playing now)
@gskills55 Жыл бұрын
The one base archon chargelot DT all in that Uthermal said was the worst build ever (which it is) kills like 75% of masters 3 Terrans on NA
@Rcoutme Жыл бұрын
The word, hindered, is also an English word, and means (I believe) the same thing. To hinder is to slow down, delay or obstruct in some way.
@knutfournier4103 Жыл бұрын
"I swear I'm not trying to make these games this short" 😆😆
@JoeMendez579 Жыл бұрын
I just wake up everyday for this videos XD
@justaporing773 Жыл бұрын
thx so much for these videos youthermal you are a terran magician man
@xslas Жыл бұрын
Best SC2 content on YT
@Necrocidal Жыл бұрын
Keep a record for the most marines you lost in games that you won. When you're in for a hard late-game match, then you have something to look forward to :D
@jayjacobl4667 Жыл бұрын
your opponent must feel like he's playing a campaign mission
@andreawaite8677 Жыл бұрын
Against zerg that just look terran
@kamnale1317 Жыл бұрын
37:14 disrupted his eco :)
@RossRadikSherman Жыл бұрын
Beating BCs, tanks, and a planetary with only marines and medivacs is ridiculous. That's the hard counter. The only thing better might be adding a few vikings to snipe the medivacs. And, like uthermal said, a sensor tower.
@echofarm5237 Жыл бұрын
tnx for the episode. these series is too funny. had lots of fun today. specially the salty cheese lol
@vereor66 Жыл бұрын
Hey just letting you know you were right when you said 'i hindered his economy'. To hinder something is to cause problems that create delays etc. :)
@jackfoo2 Жыл бұрын
stunted and hindered were both valid expressions
@givemeyourmoneynao Жыл бұрын
Are hellbats still considered both mech and bio? It would be cool to see a series centered around super tanky hellbat compositions. Like you could use scvs and medivacs in your army to heal them. I’m not really sure what that would look like, it would just be cool if you could setup a composition with hellbats that just heal and tank like crazy. Maybe even drop mules behind your army for repairs if that is still possible.
@NativeNewMexican Жыл бұрын
In team games having Queens and medivacs was insane, they never die.
@joshuadalton6063 Жыл бұрын
Yes they are the same as SVC, they can be repaired or healed.
@syronox5357 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@PashaSlavaUkraine Жыл бұрын
Dude it just dropped lol
@psluxton Жыл бұрын
Rage quitting IS salt in NA. That's why they also say "Uninstall, noob!" because rage quitting happens so often. 😋
@MadShadow_ Жыл бұрын
You can use the word Hinder in English as well. You'd be surprised how decent number Dutch Words you accidentally can translate to English in one form to another.
@Mecht Жыл бұрын
Idk if Marines only will get that much salt on NA. If you brought cyclone/mine or helion/raven over, you'd probably get some good salt there
@michaelcraven9539 Жыл бұрын
100 marines walk into the bar, there is no counter
@TfuckyoutubeC Жыл бұрын
around 37:00 yeah "hindered" is an english word and it means what you thought, you used it correctly
@finestco Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another vid!
@Caabooose Жыл бұрын
likely should've grabbed the gold with how turtled up he was being lol
@xxlin88xx Жыл бұрын
My fav série so far WP
@GeorgeTrombley Жыл бұрын
Such a great game with those BCs!!
@shajiorehk Жыл бұрын
WP i thought you not going through from BC and siege but like always you turn the game over. GGz 👍🏼
@GoodGuyLulu Жыл бұрын
I'd love to watch you play that BC build. Sounds super fun
@BretBowlby Жыл бұрын
When facing a push into tanks, drop a mule, then push in. ;)
@keysurfer2003 Жыл бұрын
Finally some Salt! 🧂
@Technoanima Жыл бұрын
2 shots and that army would be toast, just like real life.
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle Жыл бұрын
When he praises his opponents it makes me feel like he's thinking about their strategy more than they did.
@omegapsi847 Жыл бұрын
31:14 I often notice you fly CCs to the base location instead of morphing it into orbital first. Is this always more efficient? I thought that going for orbital would be more effient since you morph it earlier into an orbital and have acess to the mule faster. on the other hand if you have oversaturared mineral line you can transfer faster to the natural and mine this way faster. Is there a general efficient way to do it?
@finestco Жыл бұрын
if you float it first you can at least mine there while it is morphing
@amythystmiriel Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to BC/hellion/hellbat to GM :3
@kiraPh1234k Жыл бұрын
Marines are stronk and also are a nice setup against any sky attacks
@peterjansen4826 Жыл бұрын
Allegedly (Vibe) µThermal uses mouse-acceleration. I don't know how he does this marine-splitting with that, that is impressive.
@cheesypuffs1342 Жыл бұрын
i can't believe he turned them into hellbats! hellions can kite marines for quite a bit, and the BC tanking damage & dishing out pew pews, the marines would be heavily damaged by the blue flame.
@erikhaynes5506 Жыл бұрын
So Marines don't really counter hellbats except for the kiting?
@cheesypuffs1342 Жыл бұрын
I'm not GM just low masters. but imho, if marines have stim, they can kite backwards and beat hellbats pretty easily cuz they have a range advantage.
@DustinGhia Жыл бұрын
The old school is great!
@omegapsi847 Жыл бұрын
Man I gotta say: Your intro is badass.
@Shwed1982 Жыл бұрын
My favourite challenge so far
@matthewshuck5190 Жыл бұрын
you may like harstems JUST marines (stupid stuff to gm) series. It truly is memeworthy to watch as he was winning 5 minutes in with 0/0 marines just massacring enemies
@slutmonke Жыл бұрын
it seems like with this style you need to win hard on economy. Like, you need so many bases and barracks that you can suicide move-command to get on top of tank lines, break them with their own splash, but then almost-instantly re-max on marines as if you were playing zerg
@philiproe1661 Жыл бұрын
Hinder is a word in English just as it is in Dutch. It means to disrupt and annoy.
@anotharoundboi Жыл бұрын
36:18, he did that cuz Hellbats look cooler than helions. XXD
@bkizers7 ай бұрын
Following you is really nice I think I'm probably one of the oldest players watching you at 77yrs old. I played starcraft when it first came out. At my age things work slower. I just started playing about 3mos ago. Any tips on APM. I can't seem to get it higher than 50.
@mitch019850 Жыл бұрын
Hinder is also an english word. And yes, I'm assuming it means the same thing because it would have worked in that situation
@MasonDauphin Жыл бұрын
That last game was amazing.
@_DarkEmperor Жыл бұрын
Looks like opponent in 2nd game was experimenting with new build.
@lg6707 Жыл бұрын
If 'hindered' is a Dutch word then English "borrowed" it because it's fairly common in english too
@justanything7016 Жыл бұрын
Sir can you do a challenge using a reaper and 1 combination with it? I like to see a fast game reaper . And I know your the one can make a good strategy on it. I hope I see it one day. Thanks and more power to you! You are always fun to watch.