I Deleted My Tahoe's TORSION BARS for Something MUCH BETTER

[@Christopherbever]

First off, this whole production quality is better than anything on TV, scene cut away, attention to detail and actual advise instead of glorified sales of the aftermarket stuff. Feels like I’m a kid watching the truck shows on Saturday mornings 😂. Did anyone else try the upgrade? How’s it feel

[@GM-sk2wk]

Matt’s out here making us all decide to spend money on our old SUVs. Great video.

[@tatertitstv8129]

No doubt lol

[@Mr.DontKnow]

He has been a big help for alot of us!

[@jonesdemarco81]

Hell yeah im buying stuff now for my 03 tahoe

[@romero.4089]

For real 😂😂

[@NSRS1]

I'd rather do that than make a car payment on something 😎👍

[@sailhavasu]

Holy crap Matt. You are the Tahoe guru! If I lived closer I’d be trying to hire your ass to fix mine up! Love the video. I know it takes ATON of extra effort to not only do the work itself , but to stage , film, and edit. Thank you ! It’s much appreciated!

[@cgray86]

For this coilover conversion, can you do a quick video with your thoughts and info about the performance and pros/cons after a year on the road? Maybe even just a detailed follow-up commentary in this comment feed? Would really like to know

[@Pitman556]

The guy who designed this kit has 12years running it. Atomic fab coilover conversion

[@deankay4434]

I completely agree with the “Permatex” brand anti-seize on the aluminum body for adjustment but, the Torrington bearing will suffer less unless using a High Temp PTFE brake grease from ACDelco, simply because it is clear and not blue! The anti-seize compound has metals of copper, aluminum or zinc in high temp applications. For a bearing, just plain grease is best. Use wheel bearing grease if needed, the adjusting nut needs an anti-seize for galvanic action of dissimilar metals so it can be adjusted or serviced. DK. ASE Master Tech since 78, retired.

[@Racer413]

Limit straps for the rear would solve your issue of things breaking in the rear.

[@justins8980]

Wow Matt, by far the best “to do” video I’ve ever seen on KZbin. You’re clear about everything, especially the small details we will need doing this. But also, you’re not robotic or trying to act like a movie star when you speaking. I feel like I’m hanging out with my brother again working on a car.

[@yourpapi737]

Need to make a video of the dual battery setup for when you run off-road lights.

[@rickw4160]

Nobody needs dual batteries for running lights anymore. They all LEDs. Just for winches. And fridges.

[@rickw4160]

I'm saying that new led lights use significantly less power than incandescent. 42" triple row light bars are like 600w. Old hella Incandescent we're often 100w each. Regular headlights are like 35-55w. A 65a alternator will easily put up with that. Your in Montana and obviously crazier winters. But your fan mostly isn't running if it's that cold. If you have a high compression motor that's when you need big battery reserves to crank it over.

[@frostbite1991]

just a quick tip, you use a brass punch and hammer to tighten the lock ring up on coilovers. Spanners alone dont quite get it tight enough. Can vibrate loose after a while. That extra shock from hammering them help them to bite into the adjustment ring and lock it in place. Loving the build so far though. Been tossing around the idea of either SAS or coilover swap my 03 2500HD.

[@adamrose716]

"It's a tahoe again" had me rolling 🤣

[@Chase_Shadow]

This was super helpful, I want to make my yukon sound like a vet, so this covers 2 bases. It gets rid of the torsion bs (which would be in the way of the exhaust) and much better suspension! Thank you!

[@lordrichard8184]

I’d love to see a final tour of Tahiti and a cost break down of the mods that you did. Like how much you paid for the car and how much the mods cost and a total build cost

[@PhyuckYoMomma]

Richard’s awesome man, I’m extremely happy with his cool mounts and he’s so so helpful, atomic fab is amazing. Thanks again Richard.

[@rroyce00]

I've been thinking about doing this on my 03 z71. There's a few videos on YT of guys doing this but nothing near as detailed as yours. Thanks so much Matt for this series!

[@brendanbublitz2295]

A good up grade for the Tahoe would be to replace the gear shifter from a newer(06-07) HD truck for a more modern interior look

[@eddiej.2354]

I'd like to see that if you've done that? My 2000 GMC Jimmy Diamond Edition has a console shifter and it's much nicer than the steering column mounted and I get confused when I jump in my 03 Z71 Tahoe.

[@joshuajones9615]

Nice Tahoe! Working currently on mine. Just got it back from paint. Bought a welder to learn to weld, and build my own custom fabricated bumper etc.

[@Soccerdude7330Official]

AFP is awesome. I ordered a set of poly motor mounts from them a few years ago and they are top shelf quality. You’re giving me ideas for my Tahoe man. 😆

[@lsxbobby3126]

Dude it’s funny because I think about monster garage all the time when I’m working on stuff. Monster garage was my show growing up. Definitely a big fan of Jesse James.

[@mattn5804]

Its back

[@wildbill3224]

Used to watch Jesse James too, I am 58 years old and can tell you- Jesse is the fuckin man!!!

[@ryanh415]

Viking coilovers are at the top of the game ! I build Big wheel drag cars and viking really gets that power to the ground and keeps that ride caddy smooth . Expensive, but worth every damn dollar. Just make sure you use anti seize or you'll bind up the plates !!

[@user-wc9qz7bx5k]

I did this same conversion on my lifted Tahoe about a year ago and it has been superb. The torsion bar suspension is antiquated and is a horrible ride over coil overs. Complete adjustability now and fine-tuning for all on and off-road conditions.

[@lsxmatt]

Well I found the Monster Garage clip! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3PLY59mgbKsfpo

[@shadowopsairman1583]

I've been wanting to do a combo body and suspension lift on my 2wd Silverado 1500 2007 Classic LT. It is a coil over front end.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Do not throw the torsion bars away, sell them

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

That's a trick upgrade. Gives the vehicle a nice stance. Seems chock-full of engineering compromises though. Particularly the upper mount where the two bolts that pass through the frame are literally right next to each other. This requires drilling two half-inch holes through the frame in close proximity. I would have liked to have seen much heavier weld-in mounts.

[@Erp_392]

I’ve wanted to delete the torsion bars on my 02 avalanche for so long! Excellent video for showing how it’s done and which way to go

[@stephenm4704]

Hey Matt are you still happy with the coil over conversion on Tahiti? I have a Yukon and am strongly considering the upgrade! Thanks for the videos

[@scottgunther1103]

Loved this upgrade, would be interested in the old set of tires for my 94 blazer !

[@ELMACHETE1989]

Been watching your build I went with JD fabrication coilover conversion keep up the good work

[@redvette33]

Why JD? Just wondering your determining factor between the two and why you went with one and not the other?

[@Lumpygrits76]

I need an update on how they’re holding up. Seriously considering this for my 05 Avalanche

[@chaselesser3191]

Same here. An 02 Avy. B/c new trucks are expensive.

[@Lumpygrits76]

@@chaselesser3191 😂 I’m doing a nearly 100% rebuild from the ground up. By the time I’m done I could’ve just bought a nice truck. But I I got it as a project for me and my kid. I’d like to do this but what happens if anything were to happen with this small company and you couldn’t get replacements? So I think I’m going to go with a traditional 6” lift.

[@l.b.stringfellow2413]

Fantastic tips even for a doctor who has one of these and wants to do lots of mods. Gives me more knowledge for my mechanics. Great great job !!

[@only_thee_ash_c7516]

Monster Garage came back for a few episodes this year. Also love the content Matt!

[@rmichaelwilder]

I did the same conversion about two months ago!!! LOVE IT! need to do my rears. I ended up flipping my front shocks up-side down so the knobs were easier to get to at the top.

[@ryancasey4807]

You can't do that, shocks will fail very quickly if used upside down.

[@lalogonzalez2467]

@@ryancasey4807 no it doesn’t

[@ryancasey4807]

@@lalogonzalez2467 they will too fail quickly upside down, ask any shock or damper manufacturer as to why they have an install direction and why there is specific shocks for horizontal loads. The oil will pool at the seal and will eventually leak out causing them to fail. This is well documented and a very well known obstical to designing suspension systems that anybody with a basic understanding of how shocks work would be able to tell you.

[@chesspiece81]

I did the Viking DA coilovers on the front of my Yukon from Richard too with drop spindles and 5" Belltech rear coils. My goal was to build a fullsize Trailblazer SS. I've got the suspension, brakes, and wheels sorted with a stock LQ9 swapped before I start making more power.

[@normt430]

Can you find a speed shop with corner scales and have the pressure on the front and rear evened out?

[@jarredjohnson5394]

Great vid and great idea but I know gm trucks have issue holding alignment cause the cams. Check out dirt king fabrication alignment cams . The are heavy duty and Instead of a open slit for setting the dirt king cams are hole punched. So once it's set it stays. Jus a small upgrade but it helps .

[@lsxmatt]

Thanks for the tip I’ll look into it.

[@Sandman2879]

Just my two cents. I'd feel better putting sleeves through the frame and weld them in and then run the bolts through and install that upper mount. Other than that I'd say that's a sweet upgrade for replacing the torsion bar setup.

[@Ryan_1997]

@Dansyoutube does not weaken the frame if the fabricator only welds a small section. If to much heat is be applied then MAYBE. But depends on what’s being welded and or cut/removed. The frame front to back is reinforced by the braces(cross lower rad support, and the rear) The mounts for the upper shocks won’t cause any type of frame damage if welded. I wouldn’t stick weld the mounts, preferably mig/flux, 2 passes 140amps, full prep, zero purosity. Let cool after each pass, don’t over heat the section of the frame. Call it a day…

[@borrisfatboy878]

Yup!!! The sleeves are a must!!

[@derekburton6941]

I have a 2002 GMC Sierra K1500 that I’m doing this conversion too. Mines lifted 6”in the back and 7”in the front just gotta set my ride height measure my shocks and then place my order with ATOMICFABANDPERFORMACE. Your video has got me so pumped and excited to complete my project!!!

[@tylerholliday3896]

Can’t get over how good that front end looks!

[@SpeedKLS]

I did the same thing on my silverado but used qa1s and eibach springs worked good but getting ready to go dana 60 now. I am on a superlift 6" decranked to 4" or so eibach 14" 650lbs little soft but works good for me and for more room upper arms I got from JD Fabrication their mid travel arm. Well happy travels good change for the better

[@13window]

I had eibach 16" 700lbs on my '10 sierra,, way to stiff for me. Changed to 650lbs , better but think I might try 600lbs next to see how much the ride changes.

[@erikvalle172]

I love the coilovers I have them on a 6in lifted 05 GMC Sierra and it rides like a Cadillac I’ve had them for like 3 years already 🤘🏼

[@jeremyvaldez6082]

Ok wait. This is what I want to hear. I need more info. Lol

[@erikvalle172]

Yeah I got the same coilovers but for a lifted truck and in all honesty it rides badass I love them I just need to get some for the rear and I’ll be all set

[@jeremyvaldez6082]

@@erikvalle172 I need your number so we can talk lol I have a lifted 2006 Silverado with a rough country lift and it sucks

[@erikvalle172]

@@jeremyvaldez6082 do you have a Snapchat don’t really wanna give my number out of KZbin haha

[@jeremyvaldez6082]

@@erikvalle172 Jeremy_v2929

[@zeroturn7091]

My favorite episode was when they made a C3 Stingray 4WD by welding a sprocket etc to the frame chain linked to the drive axle.

[@Geoff240ti]

I've been looking at viking for months.. I'm sold on that soft ride. I have no use for firm high payload ride in my 16 single cab, I want the old school float! Thanks for the great video.

[@Range-X]

I’ve had AFP/Richard’s setup on my 04 Silverado for almost 2 years now. Vikings with adjustable compression and rebound. Rides better than torsion bars for sure, but still not all the way happy with the trucks handling. If I did it again I would go the JB fabrication route.

[@redvette33]

Why?

[@Range-X]

@@redvette33 Components are undersized. I’ve done some mild off-roading(trails to remote camp sites) and destroyed several components. Top coil retainers sheared off the shock mount(welded them back). Heim joints developed play. One shock was internally damaged(c/r knobs stopped working). I have had issues after every camping trip I’ve been on. I can see where they suffice for driving on smooth roads, but still undersized if you hit a pothole etc IMO. JD fab utilizes much larger and stronger components that are adequate for these heavy trucks. These appear more suited for a smaller/lighter vehicle. Hope I could help.

[@ericdanuser3376]

Nice video man, I did my Escalade a few years ago and Richard at Atomic was awesome. What springs did you use though, I did Eibach 1200lb and I feel like it's too stiff? Otherwise awesome install and good luck with future mods man!

[@lsxmatt]

1200 seems pretty stiff. It looks like the max lb spring Atomic offers on their site is an 850. I don’t know what rate mine are as I just ran what was recommended for the height I wanted. I’m sure Rich will chime in and be able to help you out. Check out this chart with the available springs and rates: atomicfabandperformance.com/product/viking-coilover-springs/

[@Chig232]

@LsxMatt You said you noticed an improvement in the ride quality and I do love the ability to adjust on the fly to your needs however after this install and considering the cost do you think this upgrade is worth it for someone who drives a '03 2WD and is only looking to improve ride comfort and will never see off road wear?

[@johnnyshell2839]

I have an 05 tahoe. I got the same response from mine just by changing shocks. She's dead level. No Sachs on the rear anymore. Still torsion. But what really helped was tires and rims. 275 55 r20. Holy crap she plants. But I'm definitely interested in the coilovers on the front

[@jimmyc7803]

yes. agree with papi. I have a similar tahoe. would like to see how your take on a second battery would work. most importantly, how you would set it up.

[@jonellwanger7258]

The suburban and Tahoe’s are the same as the trucks. And some trucks came with diesels, and those had dual battery setup from the factory. The other battery spot is in the engine bay, passenger side by the hood hinge, at least my 04 Denali has it there. And I used a Tahoe to replace the front end. Same same.

[@jimilborillo]

On the rear. Could you not have gotten longer shocks instead of using the extenders? Love the vid on the front coilovers. I'm thinking of doing the same on my 03 Suburban. I believe the earlier versions of the Atomic shock mounts were weld on so at the time I did not want to go that route. Now that their is bolt on solution, I think I might revisit doing coilovers again.

[@edwardjmayer87]

Matt over here giving me new ideas for the 00 burban, was thinking about an 8.1 swap but this looks way more interesting

[@whuttontarnation2484]

This would be sick with a pro charged lq9. The motor should bolt right in and the ram has a traditional blower while the raptor has turbos so might as well finish off the trifecta

[@brannon1221]

Awesome detailed video. Been dreaming of coil overs mod for my '99 sierra

[@jordanhart2979]

Matt, is this the coilover conversion for “lifted trucks” that they offer or just the normal conversion kit?

[@carlitos19cali]

Man thanks I been wanting to do this to my Tahoe but can’t really find anyone that has a good video thanks man.

[@joerivas9847]

HMMMMNNN... I would like to do this to my GMC, however, I think that the upper mount, I will drill the 1st hole a little larger and put a pipe bushing in so to insure the frame isnt crushed. I know you arent supposed to over tighten, more for piece of mind.

[@brianneal9204]

I would leave the front and rear bumpers black and paint the flared part of the fenders and the raised lower part of the body black to match for a nice 2-tone look. Black really looks good with that light metallic paint.

[@georgefernandez2333]

Just got me an 05 Tahoe. It rides a little bit rough so I think I’m gonna have to do exactly this. Cool vid

[@howeyfeltersnatch7702]

I've had my AFP kit on my 05 Tahoe for a year now.....well worth the money, especially when you're lifted 10" on 35's. Cognito uppers are a game changer too.....now for some rear coilovers! Lol

[@Z-Ack]

Quite a bit of money for that.. i did the torsion key thing and got adjustable shocks.. works for my needs.. gotta watch driving on bad allignments like that.. i drove maybe 30 miles before i was able to get in and it totally ate 2 brand new bfg’s.. only on the outside tread though.. but took em down past the nubbiez..

[@luisgarci6815]

should've welded would've saved so much time its not like your planning to change it back??

[@drewgoody2957]

Great video im getting these for my 5 inch lifted sierra and lifting it to 8 cant wait to get rid of my torsion bars I cant stand them

[@chrisg5832]

Hey man, nice video and good looking truck. You’ve had them on a while, do you still love them? Would you change anything about them product? I’m thinking about changing to this but want something long term. Thanks.

[@JAHblu.Rasta.Far.I]

Nice work an congratulations on the new setup.Respect !!!

[@nferrato1]

This is the exact upgrade I want to do! I’ve seen other videos on this setup,but they suck! Thanks for not sucking😂. 07-14 factory brake upgrade? Inch bigger brakes!

[@richardrodriguez3412]

Bigger brakes?! In order to go from the 07.5+ calipers/rotors you have now to the 2019+ 4 piston calipers/rotors hydroboost/larger master cylinder piston is needed correct? Because if not the pedal would require much more input from the 'ol foot because of the volume those pistons take up. I was gonna do the 07.5+ swap but I'm curios now..hmmm.

[@lsxmatt]

It should be interesting for sure..

[@traviscrawford6921]

First time you've come across my suggested videos. Subscribed.

[@garybussy1035]

I have an 88 Chevy K1500 that’s my daily driver. Love the thing, except the torsion bars aren’t my favorite. I’d love to do something like this as long as I can keep stock alignment and driveline angles... all without spending a fortune

[@miggi9557]

New to the channel I’m sure I’ll be losing sleep watching your videos lol keep up the great work 🍻

[@ierdaniel]

Love this content!! Great videos👍🏼 Hoping your first hand experience also owning a 00-06 Z71 Tahoe + also using atomic fabs coilover conversion bracket kit can help me get this right the 1st time! What coilspring lbs rate did you end up with? 650 700 & 750lbs have all been suggested to me? Plan to order the same line of Vikings front coilover shocks you did 19” is there longest option I have 21&3/4” from bolt to bolt sitting level. Think that’s cutting it close on up or down travel limits? 02 Z71 6”susp lift I’ bought new in 02 only 107k I’ve done lots of $ in upgrades over the yrs & more to come especially after funding this channel live it!!!

[@james10739]

Pretty cool I didn't know they made anything like that I think my Silverado might need that

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

i keep looking up mods for my wifes tahoe , and your videos keep popping up. apparently we think alike when it comes to do doing these type of mods / improvements. currently have the 08 tahoe brake parts on order for doing that conversion lol.

[@tuckerc3802]

Hey man i put an hd hood on my tahoe and painted it it looks amazing thanks for helping all of us out with ideas and bringing our manly ideas to real life so we can see what it looks like the next thing i do to my tahoe is to lower the front bumper add hd valance/grill and the 6.0 in my garage

[@atomic178]

Really great video! I appreciate you doing such a detailed review and glad you like it!

[@heathroyer2276]

Is there no kits for 2500s?

[@deathbyrebuilds2380]

Hey will this kit work for a 2wd?

[@atomic178]

@@deathbyrebuilds2380 If you have torsion bars, yes

[@deathbyrebuilds2380]

@@atomic178 thanks man will definitely be getting this kit in the future

[@guitarguy3221]

This makes me wanna consider fabbing my 2wd coil perch into a coilover mount with 4wd lower arms 😂 Ive already got a 4wd 5 speed in the truck IFS is too much fun & comfort onroad

[@jason454ss]

Bought a Suburban to haul my family around and didn't fit in my truck anymore. I've been making it my own and ran across your videos a few times now.

[@scottvanskiver7028]

I love watching this project. I'm also restoring my 02 Z71 tahoe and your videos are a great resource. I'm looking at doing this conversion too. Are the viking shocks 2.0 or 2.5s (inch diameter shock body)? Thanks!

[@jonathangarzon2798]

I tow with my ranger but have considered doing this mod cause fuck torsion springs, how much are they rated for?

[@xXHU4lifeXx]

Killer video! I have an 04 Tahoe as well with a torsion key lift. Would it be beneficial to get longer sway bar end links? I’ve heard to keep the sway bars level for better handling. Figured you’re the expert to ask!

[@Bruises-Bandages]

What size are your wheel spacers and what brand I’ve been looking for some and I like how your wheels are not too far out

[@Bryan-qv4uv]

Second this

[@collinwall5169]

They look to be 2 inches

[@raleighparson3065]

I appreciate you man. I need that front bumper and hood change. Thing looks mean!

[@imprecise4026]

all your videos are full of great info, but im here specfically for the trans am

[@AMr-pv1up]

This was helpful I git a 05 z71 burban and this is EXACTLY what I'm trying to do, not too many videos at all on it....also have a 93 dodge ram hemi I want to do this too ND there are absolutely NO VIDEOS ON HOW TO let alone parts

[@antoniovalenzuela7134]

Matt, could you tell what's the coilover kit part number shown on this video from Atomic Fabrication ?

[@valentindiaz8555]

Awesome video, do you know if this set up would fit on my 2002 suburban?

[@Username-ng8jy]

I’m doing coils in front. I wanna drop the truck like 2 in and upgrade the suspension. I don’t mind stiffening the ride a bit. Y’all think this is the way to go? Their kit looks amazing and high quality from what I’ve seen

[@johnnyshell2839]

Please check how she moves in 4 wd. I'll pull a tire off the ground in a rut. But she's still firm and planted when I'm cornering

[@da1st482]

How much more adjustment did you have in this video ( in terms of lift ) ? Did you still have more ?

[@lsxmatt]

I went up about 2.5 inches. Theres a little more in it but the limiting factor is the factory control arm frame stops. Going up anymore will have the arms banging against the stops. Same thing goes for a torsion key lift.

[@da1st482]

@@lsxmatt I gotcha , I appreciate man . Im really considering doing this to my Yukon. I absolutely hate the torsion bar setup. The inconsistency from side to side drives me nuts . ( Chevy lean )

[@dandahermitseals5582]

I just wanna know if this is a lift cause I want to lift the rig at about 4/2" to run 33s?

[@mikejohnson9118]

Paint that bumper....Paint that bumper....Paint that bumper....Paint that bumper....!

[@robergeernest]

Hi Matt, my name is Ernest. Love your content, keep it up! I have a 07 suburban ltz on a 6ish rough country lift still with tortion bars. I can't find any info for the tortion delete kit you used on the tahoe. Also do you keep the lowers? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks brotha!

[@miggyv6856]

Great video! Would you say these coilovers are okay for an off road application? Or is it strictly for daily driving/track use? Thanks in advance.

[@Watchout1010]

Take out what works fine and put in aftermarket rough rider.

[@miggyv6856]

@@Watchout1010 That doesn’t really answer my question, but thanks.

[@coltonrouse1962]

They need to make kits for heavy duty trucks ASAP, doesn’t seem like anyone in the market does them, unless anyone knows of a kit for a 2001 Chevy 1500hd

[@watuzi]

Great video man, especially the one where you can see the underside of the Tahoe. Did you use a go pro for that shot?

[@lsxmatt]

Thanks, I used a gopro with a magnetic mount.

[@leventelaisz]

Awesome video man, I'm planning to do this with my 06 Silverado, it has a 4 inch RC lift and it rides like crap, I need that ride quality closer to the cushy factory feel 😄

[@taylorstevens48]

How is that front end holding up? Iv been told never to delete torsion bars unless you add heave duty shock tower mounts, supposedly, the stock mounts will eventually bend and break from the weight of the truck all on the mounts

[@lsxmatt]

They’re good. The coil-over doesn’t rely on the shock mount, it has its own bracket that bolts to the frame.

[@damiangillen3365]

May have been covered already but I off-road a lot and was wondering if this mod got you better flex for off-road use.

[@vinster8884]

Installed QA1 coilovers on my Burban about 4 years ago. Now everyone else's torsion bar trucks drive like crap. Lol

[@fammarquezfelix]

How about some part #s and some more info for us bro I have a 2009 Escalade 2wd fbo cam e85 with a 2/3 drop and squats really hard would be nice if u could share some of that shock info with us…

[@chelemolinero1172]

Thanks for sharing your video. I'm planning to get my done too

[@thefoureyedfabricator217]

Any updates on the ride quality 2 months in? Seriously considering the coilovers for my '02 Avalanche.

[@johnlopez7835]

Matt this may sounds like a stupid question. But is it possible to put these in and also keep the Tortion bars?

[@exit9mastertec7]

Great video especially the product you have n the work your doing looking to get a Tahoe soon absolutely great video

[@rostifardian]

Where did you get the upper control arms? I went to Freedom Off-road’s website and couldn’t find them