I did not expect to feel this way...*MOON KNIGHT* FINALE!! (S1 - pt. 2/2)

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[@brandongalvan6603]

Nat: "I'm surprised no-one's shooting him." Arthur: "Good point."

[@capsey_]

Guy behind him with a gun ready: "Ok, they said I shouldn't shoot a main character, so I'll just stand the- Oh, nevermind"

[@SplitSniper7]

Arthur: Hold my cane

[@TheIcemanthomas]

@@SplitSniper7 hold my glass

[@scottfavs2651]

Arthur: Hold my scales

[@rudrasingh6354]

Arthur: Hold my doctorate

[@edwardosquidawardo]

Oscar Isaac needs some sort of recognition or an award. He absolutely kills it in episode 5 and really knows how to pull on your heart strings

[@mangalegends]

I think he won a golden globe at one point

[@MrBrax]

Had no idea what people talking about with emotional, never saw such a thing in this show

[@mcflyjp]

@@MrBrax Look an MCU hater. LOL

[@gunnar4915]

@@MrBrax Marks characters backstory isn’t sad now is it?

[@MrBrax]

@@mcflyjp i've watched every single mcu thing except "what if", after endgame it all started going downhill

[@richardparadox163]

Harrow is so good at manipulating because, like all the best Marvel villains, he sincerely believes what he’s doing is right

[@scientia.veritas]

Because Dr. Harrow learns from his mistakes.

[@cctomcat321]

I wonder _exactly_ how her power works. Like, is this a matter of %100 all knowing certainty, or is it a probability weighed in the scales? It's like the baby Adolf question. Would, given the chance, pull a Deadpool? Or try and forge a new path... Like sending him to painting school, idk.

[@TheBoondocksaint117]

Every villain believes they're right. Every character does. The most compelling villains are the ones who can make the audience say they're right, or at least have some good points.

[@dcaslick]

@@TheBoondocksaint117 this is not true. Characters like the Joker know that they are a bad person doing bad things. The Joker doesn’t “think he’s right”. He’s just doing it for the laughs. Most villains in comics don’t think of themselves as the real “good guy”. They know they’re bad, but they don’t care. Harrow legitimately thinks he’s a good guy. He thinks he’s creating a better world. He doesn’t care about gaining power or wealth. He just wants what he perceives to be a better world.

[@ianburns1167]

@@dcaslick And, more importantly, he's willing to make sacrifices and be heroic - in his view - in pursuit of that goal. He knows that Ammit may judge him, he's willing to accept that.

[@beethewizard]

Jake was there throughout the series. He made the date that Steven was oblivious to, Marc would not cheat on Layla so he would not have done that. Jake is a driver and as you can see a killer, we have slaughters where there were blackouts; that was Jake but those unfamiliar with the comics assumed it was Marc. In addition, Jake is a driver so that was obviously him driving backwards in the first episode. That is who did all of the bloody events. Harrow was likely walking on glass as a self-sacrificing commitment to Ammit. As always, Your reactions were priceless and I look forward to your next.

[@JJYT92]

I know Jake was around during all those violent scenes, but he wasn't there for the date. The girl said she ate Steak alone so she was stood up.

[@beethewizard]

@@JJYT92 Correct, as I indicated, Jake made the date I did not say he went on the date.

[@JJYT92]

@@beethewizard ah, okay I misunderstood. I thought you meant Jake made it to the date.

[@beethewizard]

@@JJYT92 No worries I understand. It was an amazing series and I only hope they are trying to trick us with no second season. We need more Moon Knight.

[@Chaff]

@@JJYT92 didnt the girl call him marc at one point? How would jake have made the date if marc had introduced himself to her with his name?

[@unclecousinmario2693]

The common thought is that Jake Lockley was that 3rd coffin that they didn't open when Marc freed Steven, prior to running into Taweret. That seems to be the general consensus.

[@michaelm.1947]

That was exactly my thought when I watched it. Since Steven had come out of one sarcophagus, I didn't get why they wouldn't open the other (and how would they have achieved balance since Jake wasn't accounted for?).

[@deighton13601]

I can't believe I didn't even think about that!!!

[@bvbxiong5791]

@@michaelm.1947 Mark found balance because Steven and Jake were "gone", Steven to the sand and Jake still in the coffin. Mark was only Mark then.

[@edpotter1170]

@@michaelm.1947 they didn't open the sarcophagus because they either suspected the 3rd persona from the rooftop incident and knew it was a psychopathic one, or they're smart enough not to be curious from the vigorous sound from the coffin. At least Steven made a sound "let me out" so Marc recognized his accent. and i think Marc achieved balance because he left behind Steven and Jake. perhaps his action of leaving Jake meant that he denied him as a part of himself, since he never had direct interaction with Jake like he did with Steven, he's not responsible for Jake's potential misdeeds.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

My theory is that Jake Lockley ended up killed his own mom :c edit: Does this theory exist already? Or is it just me?

[@PixieSugar1991]

Oscar deserves an award for his performance in the series. It's mind blowing how well you tell when it's Steven and when it's Mark.

[@SamuelMi1es]

I hope he does, but I don't think anyone giving awards can see anything other than the Marvel tag before immediately dismissing it. Tatiana Maslany was recognized for her multiple persona work on Orphan Black, but there seems to be something about Marvel that is repellent to awards for acting performances.

[@Jason_xofilos]

Or Jake for that matter if you are paying attention.

[@lincelink]

The scene near the end, when he is talking to the doctor and he switches from Mark to Steven? You can SEE who is just looking at his face... Awesome

[@amycasey9540]

@Shannon Bolton his fake British accent was spot on - playing an American child putting on an accentuated British accent rather than a real one. As a British person when I watched ep one and two I was genuinely laughing out loud at the accent thinking "wtf is this supposed to be?? It's so bad" but once you've watched ep five, it all makes sense. It's not supposed to be good!

[@abr4xas]

Oscar..... deserves an Oscar.

[@roudkaross]

Layla's costume is a scarab, just like his father caller her "my little scarab" About the therapy section, don't forget that he has to balance his scale so i think Dr Harrow was meant to help them fix their relationship almost like couple therapy. For the glass in the shoes i think it's penance for what he has done as Konshu's avatar. He is a fanatic too so it's like a ritual.

[@gpaderx6105]

Yes, she's the Scarlett Scarab from the comics

[@kimm6589]

Right. And Tawaret mentioned that she knew her dad and his relationship with Layla.

[@mohammadzekereya9311]

I think I read somewhere in an interview with Ethan Hawke , not 100 percent sure. He said that a lot of real world cult leaders punish/torture themselves believing that they are not worth or good enough.

[@mohammadzekereya9311]

I found it In a recent interview, Ethan Hawke explained why Arthur Harrow keeps the glass in his shoes; and it is as unsettling as you would imagine. Speaking with Variety, Hawke stated, “That [scene] really sprang out of my imagination and our conversations. When you read a comic book, some of the pages have eight drawings, some of them have 16, some have four, and then every now and then, they’ll give like a villain one full-page drawing.” “I kept asking the writers and directors if it was a comic book, what would his full-page drawing be?” Hawke noted, “And they were like, ‘What do you think it was?'” Hawke continued, “I started really meditating on that, and I started thinking about spiritual people who go crazy, who get mad on their own spiritual pride, and how often that turns inward and you see that they secretly self-lacerating in some way and hating themselves.” “Because we all have sin, and the idea that somebody is free of sin is not really possible if you’re human.” the actor noted, “And so with the self-hatred and the turning inward, I had this image of him listening to a hymn while he put broken glass in his shoes, that he hid from other people.” Hawke concluded by stating, “I knew he had a cane, and I kept saying, ‘wait, I have a cane. Do I have a limp?’ And I thought, ‘Ahh, I know why he has a cane,’ So I told them this idea. And this is what I mean about what was so surprising about Marvel: They’re like, ‘Let’s shoot that. Thats a great idea.'”

[@nullunit]

@@mohammadzekereya9311 Yeah just saw it as another form of self-mutilation we see expressed by zealots. Like the hair shirt or self-flagellation. Harrow was a great character. This series was great but plays so much better not having to wait every week.

[@TA3DArtist]

The asylum was in his head. That’s why the doctor didn’t know why his feet were bleeding and why the “office” was so incomplete and mixed with ancient artifacts. The glass was audible every time he stepped so I think Marc realized what it was.

[@andrewjuby6339]

I also think it's based, in part, on reality. Marc mentions that he remembers bringing himself to the asylum; I think it's very possible that he *did* check himself into a mental health hospital (perhaps even the very one Harrow ends up in) and it's his memories of that place that are informing the images he sees.

[@sagespaceghost2413]

"This episode took a TURN" And pivoted into one of the best MCU pieces ever created.

[@razorsfury6519]

Show was awful

[@geraldthegoose1685]

@@razorsfury6519 let me guess you think she-hulk is gonna be a 10/10

[@ladybird416]

@@razorsfury6519 then don't watch💁‍♀️

[@racool911]

@@geraldthegoose1685 Wtf is that supposed to mean? 💀. At least use a project that already came out

[@razorsfury6519]

@@ladybird416 how about you go f**k yourself. Who the hell are you to tell others they can or can't criticize trash shows? Sheep like you are the reason shows have fallen so far to worse than mediocrity.

[@humanoid251]

The “it wasn’t your fault” had such a strong Good Will Hunting vibe that I nearly started crying. One or two more repetitions of that line and I for sure would’ve. Episode 5 was so heavy but so beautifully done “We didn’t get clarification on why he [put glass in his shoes]” actually we did. When Ammit told him his scales were unbalanced he said “I hoped my penance would help” so he put glass in his shoes as a form of sacrifice to gain favor with her and balance his scales

[@brianburkhardt3692]

I definitely did start crying. Multiple times in rewatches, but that got me. Also him accepting his mother is dead.

[@johnsantos507]

Ugh! I could never forget I saw the beginning of episode 1. It so painful.😰

[@Hellohellonada]

Flagellation to me it seems.

[@tarmaque]

It's also a nod to Comics Arthur Harrow, who is a doctor and scientist who studies _pain,_ and develops methods to desensitize people to pain. His experiments started in Auschwitz on Jews during the war, but this was covered up. He later performed more experiments on farmers in Mexico, while claiming he was experimenting on animals. He suffers from paralysis in his face which causes him constant pain, and his experiments are a search for a cure. TLDR: Arthur Harrow is a pain nut, hence the glass in his sandals.

[@benjaminlundback8394]

I am pretty sure that it was Ethan Hawke's idea. He drew inspiration from cult leaders that did crazy shit like that in real life

[@realsies9387]

I don't know if this has been talked about yet but when you're talking about Harrow and the opening scene with him putting glass in his shoe. the reason behind it makes sense if you follow or are familiar with Catholics. It's basically a penance for his past. Much like self flogging in the middle ages. It's to show that he has paid for his past sins and still is paying for them.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Yep, it’s a modern day version of a hair shirt.

[@emgonzale]

Yea. Came to the comments to look for this. Definitely part of his penance for having unbalanced scales like he says to Ammit. It stood out to me more as I watched Natalie watch it.

[@user-we6jo7mx3h]

i think arthur said it was a punishment for not having a balanced soul or heart. idk

[@57kwest]

This was done in the DaVinci code.

[@mohammedfaraazhasankhan1627]

Its a common form of therapy

[@amanda0419michelle]

The reason Marc "drew the line" was because he finally wasn't technically in Khonshu's service anymore and he didn't HAVE to kill just because he was told to, which he never truly wanted to do in the first place. The Harrow psyche ward scenes always happen when Marc/Steven can't deal with the memories they're dealing with at the the time. Those scenes were his "organizing" principle to help him get to the next step of what he needed to do in the real world. I also think the scene in the end in Steven's apt wasn't 'real'. I think it's where they "chose" to reside while Jake is actually in control.

[@dylancole1910]

Yeah I agree with that theory too, they don’t have any idea that neither of them are fronting and are in the headspace.

[@EnderHeart5911]

Completely agree with the apartment theory and everything else said. It just makes so much sense.

[@pen1208]

in comic books there are 5 alternate personalities. So they could go anywhere with this.

[@KeyDash753]

@@pen1208 I haven't read the comics, but I heard the last 2 personalities are the two Moon Knight costumes, so they've already appeared?

[@camux223]

​@@pen1208 In the comics there are more than 5 alters and they keep changing. The DID is very complex

[@Cinemabu11]

I love the little detail in episode three as to why most of the other gods don't have flashy costumes. Osiris says how they despise Khonshu's garishness, showy masks, and weapons, indicating the other gods are not as showy or flamboyant as Khonshu and Taweret.

[@nosedive616]

which for some reason people really missed when they questioned why the other avatars didn’t fight Harrow. they were never meant to be fighters in the same sense that Marc is was Harrow was. Osiris also says that their avatars are simply on Earth to observe.

[@ShiningDarknes]

Well they also don't actually have their avatars _do_ anything so there's that.

[@Cinemabu11]

@@ShiningDarknes Yup. They're there to observe.

[@MrGBH]

When someone has DiD, they tend to separate certain aspects of their personalities Marc is the core personality, and created Steven in order to be everything he wanted to be. Brave, kind, polite, innocent, loved. And he later created Jake to separate himself from everything he didn't ant to be. Cruel, greedy, murderous.

[@sh_joy]

Ohhhhhhhh that actually makes so much sense! Especially for the Jake Locksly thing. For some reason I couldn't figure out his character until just now.

[@PopGoesMyBall]

I think jakes role in the DID system is the protector, since he shows up when jake or marc are in big danger, and we do know marc was abused as a child so that forming makes sense.

[@craig89]

Thats interesting, makes a lot of sense. Wish we could've seen a little quick cut montage of Jake seeing what he did when they were blacked out at the end.

[@JustAlex2000]

@@ge2719 I love how everything you said is factually incorrect and proven by countless medical and psychiatric professionals. Imagine writing all that trying to prove that a mental illness is not real when we literally have brain scans proving insane fluctuations in brainwaves when alters change. A person who is "Faking it" by no means could will their brains to give such drastically different results. A brain isn't something we can control with willpower so that alone proves that there is even minimal evidence to suggest that DiD is in fact real. Rather than trying to use entire paragraphs of pseudoscience, poor societal observations and anecdotes, how about you try and link at least 1 or 2 studies disproving DiD? The burden of proof lies on the one who makes the claim.

[@hopegraham4191]

@@ge2719 DID is a recognized diagnosis in the DSM5. What you said about recollection of traumatic memories is blatantly untrue. While multiple alters in a system can remember traumatic events, there are those in the system that cannot. Not to mention that integrations can occur where two alters merge into one identity, sharing all of their memories and becoming a stronger person that is more capable of dealing with the trauma. Alters often need to leave notes for other alters in the system to remember where they left things, or always leave things in the same place where everyone in the system will know to find them. Alters in a system can also sometimes communicate with each other in their internal world to remember important things about the outside world. Alters ability to communicate with each other about what is happening in the outside world in no way correlates to remembering the same trauma and past memories. There are some people who have been exposed for faking it, but in most cases this is indicative of other mental health issues that caused them to want to fake it in the first place, and does not invalidate those who have actually been diagnosed with DID by a mental health professional. Anyone who actually has DID does not ignore their problems and blame other alters in their system; the truth of DID is that no matter who in the system has caused a problem, everyone in the system is responsible for it and has to take the blame for the alter who is responsible. And people with DID who do not take responsibility for the actions of everyone in their system are not faking it, they are just immature people who have not yet learned that they are part of a bigger whole and cannot isolate themselves from the rest of their system.

[@pebblesanddirt]

I’ll say this is the most emotional any MCU property has made me. That next to last episode is heart-rending.

[@Uatu-the-Watcher]

It just hit me. I think Steven’s adoration of Layla is the affection Marc has been hesitant to share, due to her father. Steven is an outlet for Marc, formed from a need to escape. They’re emotionally linked.

[@neomoscoso10]

Marc acknowledged Steven as his natural superpower, apart from Konshu's influence. After defeating Ammit and Harrow, the Moon God kept his promise of releasing BOTH OF THEM. Of course, that allowed Jake Lockley to run rampant. This adaptation of the character for the MCU has a promising and brutal future. Part of said future should be the upcoming Werewolf by Night Halloween special... and (hopefully soon enough) the formation of the Midnight Sons. And behold, Scarlet Scarab!

[@lokithecat7225]

JL is as free as he has always been, and is still an Avatar... "Run Rampant" Just seems off.

[@jRoy7]

I believe Midnight Sons is on the Marvel official release calendar, so it's coming. :) Who exactly will be in it I don't think is known yet. I'd guess Moon Knight, Blade, and Black Knight.

[@shadowfire_08]

@@jRoy7 maybe bringin Punisher back? or ghost rider?

[@SheddedSnake999]

This is my favourite comment.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

@@shadowfire_08 And Man-Thing!!!

[@denniswijker7162]

Oscar Isaacs performance in this show is SO underappreciated by the larger community. It is SO strong and powerful throughout. I really feel he doesn't get enough love and praise for it.

[@kumau1890]

Now days individuals are simple/surface minded. I believe it will take time for many to actually enjoy and appreciate whats going on within.

[@Seeber420]

What do you mean? I haven't heard of anyone who didn't overwhelmingly praise his performance. Its the number one thing people talk about.

[@Wiley_Coyote]

It's been praised extensively, so it sounds like you're creating an alternate mindscape/reality where that's not the case. 😆

[@denniswijker7162]

@@Wiley_Coyote By fans of the show, absolutely. But I mean the larger community, I haven't heard anything about potential awards or anything like that (Awards aren't everything, but they DO give praise to a great performace). I could have missed this, and if that's the case, all the better I guess :P

[@denniswijker7162]

@@Wiley_Coyote By Fans of the show/MCU fans, absolutely! I'm talking about beyond that :)

[@brianburkhardt3692]

Seeing this season split in two really shows how different the first and second 3 episodes feel. It really isn’t until the end of episode 4 that it really starts to change, but it really goes darker and deeper than I ever expected, and yet it doesn’t feel out of place or like it doesn’t fit with the story.

[@lokithecat7225]

The Glass would be a form of Penance, like Monks used to Flagellate themselves. Harrow "Sinned" as Konshu's Avatar, and feels he needs to suffer for that, and the "Evil" he does in service to Ammit.

[@marshallboice4629]

It's also, believe it or not, a form of meditation. It keeps the mind focused like a laser on your existence and what you need to atone for.

[@senorchivo90]

I also saw it as a way for the show to establish that Harrow is a true believer. He's not going to take a turn and reveal it was all a power play and he doesn't care about any of it. We, as audience members, knows he means it, because why else would he torture himself when no one is around or watching or noticing? That makes him a more effective villain than someone driven by greed or nihilism.

[@ma.2089]

Was so hyped for the rest of MK. Episode 5 might be one of my fav things Marvel has ever put out. I love these characters so much. I feel like ppl don’t give Marc the love he deserves, but he’s always been very doting & treated Steven like a little brother so I love how they’re both like protective brothers now. Incredibly sweet, and I really hope subsequent MK stories lean heavy into the psychology moving forward as well

[@CaptainAmercia]

So yeah Jake Lockley is the Third. In the comic's he was a New York Cab driver while in this series it looks like he's still a driver but also takes up more of an assassin role.

[@unforeseeable2.058]

Also the limo is Mr. Knight’s in the comics, complete with the Sp3ctor (I forgot how it was spelled) license plate.

[@reverance_pavane]

I just adore Tawaret. She's just so great. All jokes aside, they got the perfect voice actress to play her. And I love the bit when the little girl asks Layla if she is a superhero. One of the reasons why Diab insisted on an actual Egyptian actress for the role of Layla.

[@thedoctor4327]

Not that I didn’t like the superheroics/ fight scenes but I think my favorite part of the series was the exploration of Marc’s mental state, particularly the mental hospital scenes. IMO the best post Endgame MCU stories have been the ones that lean into weird and unique situations (ie a witch turning a town into a sitcom, an army of office drones trying to manage timelines and now a man whose reality and personalities switch every day or so)

[@ma.2089]

Speaking of the mental stuff, we also got that in Wandavision and we’re getting the healing process of Thor and likely GotG in the future after all the trauma

[@lokithecat7225]

There are no "drones" trying to manage timelines... There were some briefly when "Loki" was introduced, but "Loki" is Pointless and functionally never happened, so the "New Krang" drones that have always been there (Timey Wimey!) aren't going to be about "Managing" the Timelines.

[@himum3429]

@@lokithecat7225 It's pretty much THE most important thing to happen in the MCU thus far. The Kang Reveal is up there with "I am Iron man" , "You should have gone for the head", "That makes you the Scarlet witch" and the X-Men theme at the end of Ms Marvel as the most crucial moments in the entire MCU. Remind me how exactly Loki is "pointless". It showed as a bureaucratic system that controls the flow of time, set up the next big bad and made the stakes of everything before it look like child's play in comparison. Am I misunderstanding you or are you underestimating it's importance to the wider mcu lol.

[@lokithecat7225]

@@himum3429 Okay... before "Loki" there was a "Time Bureau" Right? We just "Hadn't seen it yet". And there was a "Kang the friendly" who we had never seen. And because of these things that existed, that we never knew about, there couldn't be a Multiverse. But we needed to have a Multiverse for "Future Projects", so we had a "Loki" show, to introduce "The old Time Bureau" and "The old Kang", and during "Loki" we destroy "The old Time Bureau" and "The old Kang". So we had an entire series, that just un happened. We meet "Old Time Bureau" which now no longer exists; Morpheus doesn't know Loki, the "Time Cops" never learned they were cut off and Rebelled, and we don't know what the "New Time Bureau" that works for "New Kang" does. "The Old Kang" (who warned us that a "New Kang" would come Conquer the Timeline) has died, and "New Kang" Conquered the Timeline, and we don't know anything about him or what sort of "Kang" he is. The entire "Loki" series could have been a 5 minute "Dream" about their being a Group that fucks with Time, and some sort of Dude (see the statues) who controls it... because Everything else (aside from She Loki... maybe?) didn't happen (to anyone but Loki). And you don't need a "There used to be no Multiverse, but now there is" to introduce a Multiverse, you just have a Multiverse... maybe the Multiverse never impacted the MCU previously and requires no explanation, or it did, in "Unseen" stuff that they could still write.

[@TDhexada]

@@lokithecat7225 i’m really late but you’re all over the place lmaoo they didn’t erase the “old kang” it’s on a time loop .. same with the multiverse thing.. the multiverse ALWAYS EXISTED. He Who Remains simply separated and kept HIS timeline/universe away from the multiverse.. once He Who Remains was killed the main timeline spilled into multiverse . also Owen Wilson’s character is named Mobius lol. so calling Loki pointless when you obviously didn’t understand the story is very funny😭😭 if you understand loki you actually have a very thorough process of how this phase will end. because like i said it’s ON A LOOP😭

[@marcuspowell8142]

The glass in the shoes of Harrow was his “penance” to Ammit because he wasn’t pure. Ammit excepted his unbalanced soul so his penance wasn’t necessary. Fun reaction, as usual.

[@enelyam1000]

Natalie, the glass was Harrow's penitence. He said it himself. That was his penitence for not being a good man. In other words it was his way of paying his bad doing. I hope you got what i am saying because i know i did not explained it well. LOL! Cheers girl!

[@Sammy11611]

Man episodes 5 and 6 had me on an emotional rollercoaster. So glad you enjoyed this series! Loved the reaction as always!💙

[@woodstock5952]

I think its implied that the glass in his shoes are part of his penance for Ammit. He mentions he believed his service to Ammit would be enough penance to fix his scales so it would make sense that he believes he needs more punishment for his misdeeds.

[@gunkid6368]

"he looks thrilled" AGRESSIVE ZOOM ON CROTCH

[@alextheluchador]

33:25 is the best reaction I've seen of someone learning of the 3rd identity. Loved the video, Natalie, and I hope there's a season 2 for even more CRAZY STUFF!

[@calder-d]

The scenes with Oscar acting with himself reminds me that another series you must watch is Orphan Black. Tatiana Maslany''s performance(s) in that show is/are just mind boggling. I'm sure you've had a billion requests for that show.

[@cheshirekat528]

And Tatiana is She-Hulk! A good chance to see the actress’s other work before hand. I haven’t seen Orphan Black, but I did enjoy her performance in the new Perry Mason show that was on HBO/HBO MAX

[@Jdubayou]

I've seen so many reactions to this episode and I can never understand why people feel so bad for Marc's father. Yes what he went through losing his son was awful but he was also a coward for letting his wife make his other son's life a living hell.

[@legacy-sc7qw]

Thanks. His Son gets beat up and he doesn't do anything.

[@TheVisionaryLeo]

11:34 i never connected the dots, but that one shaking tomb is the third personality we see at the end of the series in the taxi.

[@danielruiz8259]

12:29 Now that you mentioned, i have the theory that one part of psychiatric ward is the afterlife, but other parts, like where Steven is seeing the movie, where he talks with Harrow, that is his mind making a mental construct, trying to find logic but also working as a safe place. That's why after Steven and Marc have a mental breakdown in the episode, they go back there.

[@jarretrausch]

I agree. But to build on it, I also think they go to the psych ward because they can’t fall back on another personality to relieve them of their emotions and stress when in the underworld as they’re both there present at the same time. And since they’re both there in the underworld, dissociative identity disorder doesn’t happen so they try to relieve their emotions by imagining them being in the psych ward.

[@Galaxia7]

31:50 it's part of Marc's story-arc ! It's actually the first time in forever that he felt like he had the choice to kill or not. He always felt obligated to kill before, that's what Layla reminded him of : his deal with Khonshu was done, he was free. He could choose to not kill. It wasn't about empathy or about sparing Harrow even. It was about Marc being more than just a killer. Killing on his own terms not when he felt forced to. ...and then the aftercredit happened. What a tragic irony.

[@futurememories25]

its really satisfying seeing true reactions from people who havent read the comics and know when everything happens.

[@nesleehan5]

Couple of things; 1) We actually get the reason why he puts broken glass in his shoes. When he resurrected Ammit and was told by her that his scales were not balanced, he says that he hoped his penance would help balance his scales. So, he was wearing the glass to torture himself as a punishment for his past sins. 2) DID is a very complicated mental health topic and it has been represented on media very poorly. This (as far as I know anyway) is the first Hollywood project to handle the topic in such a sophisticated way. Oscar Isaac said that he did a lot of research about DID getting ready for this role. And it really showed the struggles of the people who has it. I suggest you look up videos of real DID systems watching the show and talking about it's accuracy. It is very informing. 3) You not being sure about what was real and what was not in that mental hospital section is the exact thing that makes Moon Knight comics (especially the Jeff Lemire run) so good and engaging. In the comics you're never sure what is real and what is not. Marc/Steven/Jake are unreliable narrators. And that's makes for a very intriguing read, and like this show demonstrated, a very intriguing watch. 4) This show was comic-accurate on the aspects I wanted it to be but they also had some amazing original additions like Laila or the changes they did to Harrow and Jake. They handled a sensitive topic like mental health well in my humble opinion. The acting was phenomenal by everybody but especially Oscar Isaac. Long story short, I enjoyed it so so much and I think it's my favorite MCU show so far.

[@ShiningDarknes]

I mean, what is reality really?

[@e72882]

As a fan of the Moon Knight comic books, I loved how they treated this character and the story that they adapted for this miniseries. That being said, I was a bit confused on the reality vs Duat vs mental status of Marc Specter at times too. I had to watch the episodes at least twice each just to catch everything. I agree it does not need a second season to wrap up loose ends, but I would like to see what a second season would be like. Glad you enjoyed this show Nat.

[@JamesSerapio]

Moon Knight has always been one of Marvel's darker characters. More vigilante/anti-hero than superhero. For more emotionally charged Marvel stuff, I highly recommend the former Netflix shows: Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Punisher, & Luke Cage. (Defenders and Iron Fist were not so strong, though I did enjoy Iron Fist season 2. Might be worth the watch just to round it all out.)

[@SapphireDragon357]

What baffles me is the Marvel casting is always SO GOOD......except Iron Fist. That dude was absolutely terrible acting in that role, and I don't know how they made a mistake that bad given all their other castings.

[@JamesSerapio]

@@SapphireDragon357 Iron Fist season 2 really seemed to be moving towards a Daughters of the Dragon show. I hope it can happen on Disney+ with Jessica Henwick and Simone Missick reprising their roles.

[@ipayne18]

@@SapphireDragon357 My guess is that he was riding the Game of Thrones success and it helped in landing that role. Also Colleen, played by Jessica Henwick, was in Game of Thrones as well.

[@Am1Rahz005]

Shes watched daredevil tho

[@JamesSerapio]

@@Am1Rahz005 when I first posted this, she hadn't yet.

[@BullseyeBobE]

Moon Knight was one of my fave chars growing up, and now he's probably got my favorite D+ show Really hope it gets a s2 or a movie

[@Caitlinetc]

You ask a lot of the questions people tend to ignore in reactions and instead favor being a hype man. I really appreciate that. So glad you enjoyed this show.

[@dinsism]

Moon Knight has to be one of my fave Marvel shows to date, Oscar Isaac was so amazing- it takes a lot to masterfully play 2 completely different personalities

[@cinemafile]

Watching the show a second time through really made me appreciate it more. Once you’re aware of everything and have context, it’s surprising just how subtle the writing is, especially in regards to Jake’s existence.

[@mediocreman74]

I absolutely loved this series! Oscar's performances are beyond incredible; and I truly appreciated that the show kept me off-balance! Even when it's over, I find it difficult to distinguish between what is real and what is a trick of the mind... and THAT embodies Moon Knight perfectly!

[@wtimmins]

The acting in this show is just... superb. I adore the Scarlet Scarab outfit!

[@ThomasKnip]

Marc created Steven to protect the child in him. Marc created Jake to let out all the anger of the child in him.

[@PurityKontrol]

Your emotional trip in this series was amazing. From the highs to the lows. That's one reason we love your reactions.

[@Nahkampfschaf]

Some people say t his has way to few action. I saw, this is easily one of the best characters Marvel has created, and Oscar Isaac is playing this role ON POINT. I'm mad when Marvel doesn't continue Moon Knight and somehow integrates him into the rest of the MCU. This is by far my favourite Character so far, because he's so different. And played so well.

[@kakurii0]

Hey Natalie, I just wanted to say thank you for putting out so much content for all of us to enjoy! I found your channel just recently, something pretty tough has been going on in my life and your videos really help me escape and re-enjoy all the movies and series that I love.

[@michellexox4843]

the institution was supposed to insinuate Marc is really just a crazy person and the events of the series up until that point were in his head. Though that red herring is dropped pretty quickly.

[@LowLifeDust]

I loved this series so much and hope for more Moon Knight in the future! I can't believe the twist at the end of the show, there is now way they don't continue with a cliff hanger that huge!

[@Sovreign071]

The father basically let the abuse happen! And then expected his son to come back and be family? The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing. The father did nothing.

[@MaddMaster69]

It is difficult to stand up to enemies. It is even more difficult to stand up to strangers. However, the most difficult thing is standing up to your family. That was still his wife, and he truly loved her, which is why he never left her and took Marc with him.

[@punusername3445]

Father technically is a abuse victim too

[@ma.2089]

Yeah, it’s a sad situation where a parent being complacent/bystander effect. While of course, you have to feel bad cuz he’s trying his best, you know he didn’t do remotely enough. He needed to send his wife to therapy/a psychiatric hospital. I know those can be expansive, as mental health in the US is awful, but stuff needed to be done to stop the abuse since if you don’t you’re contributing to it. I know parents have to do the whole “united front” and agree with everything the other does and only disagree in private, but so often by keeping your mouth shut in the presence of abuse you’re either condoning it and teaching your child that their feelings, opinions aren’t valid. You’re making them feel alone, that they should just accept the abuse, and that’s it’s normal. You’re saying that the abuser is RIGHT and you don’t love your child as much as your abusive SO. It can really mess your child up.

[@legacy-sc7qw]

I agree and it's really surprising how many overlook this fact. The father watches as his son is beaten up just because he doesn't want to leave her.

[@punusername3445]

@@legacy-sc7qw "just because he doesn't want to leave her" hey that's harsh man, ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome?

[@andreasjournal9237]

marc protects steven and jake protects both of them. jake is often seen as heartless since he'll do some pretty messed up stuff to protect the three of them, but he really only wants to protect them and he'll do the things even marc (a mercenary) won't do if it's needed. also jake is a taxi driver so he knows the streets really well (hence them driving backwards in ep1) and speaks spanish. he was the one in the third sarcophagus that they didn't let out :)

[@brightonlund]

When I watched the series, I thought to myself that there's no way a mom would treat her kid like that, but then I had it hit me that people really do treat their kids like that. It hurts my heart to think about.

[@assassinofthecaribbean9084]

The glass in the shoes is reference to forms of real life meditation practices, he does that as a for to honor Amit and him doing in an empty room by himself shows how he's not doing just to show his devotion to others, this is like something he actually believed for himself

[@danielruiz8259]

29:48 Khonshu summoned the full moon, that's where his powers are at his strongest, also Moon Knight abilities, that's why Marc could also fly

[@clubbyvasighn4615]

Unless they changed it for the mcu, khonshu just made it windy so he could use his glider cape, at least that's the only explanation I've found about that, because the cloak was a thing he used all the time in the comics. :)

[@juniormartinez2680]

man, i cried so much watching in the moment it was released, and now i cried again with u

[@ShogunTurnip]

If I could have added one scene to the finale, I would have wanted a one minute scene of Marc/Steven going to see their Dad. After everything that happened to their family, the Dad was the only one that still loved Marc unconditionally.

[@ma.2089]

Even so, he still contributed to the abuse he was inflicted with. It’s going to take some time before they can reconcile. You know he still loves his brother and his parents, but sometimes ppl have to cut off ppl they love for their own sake

[@hamsanandini7647]

Neglect is still abuse. Marc needed to be physically removed from the situation where he was systematically being abused by his mother, and it has resulted in a pretty severe and life-altering diagnosis. One of my favourite parts of the show is the fact that Marc decided to go no contact with his abusers - him refusing to sit Shiva for his mother was the moment he finally realized that it wasn't his fault.

[@MTitor]

Hi, i'm an italin guy, i'm so bad in english, but i love look at yours videos, i found this channel one or two month ago, i can see your genuine reactions, hear about someone's thoughts and learn at the same time, and you are so genuine in your reaction, it's fun to see your videos.

[@ex_reytay7019]

If we don't get another season we'll definitely get a movie. Moonknight while not being like one of the top tier heroes has a big role in the comics. Definitely expecting him to fight dracula in the future like he did in the comics and can't wait for his crazy interactions with spider-man.

[@ma.2089]

Can’t wait for Dracula to borrow money and never pay it back

[@vasectomy_]

@@ma.2089 imagine the future season or movie starts with dracula asking for money lmfao

[@Evlmonkey22]

man, this was 100% the best series as of yet. great story telling and acting. Gonna need way more Moon Knight.

[@grindlebone]

I have a feeling the Harrow 'Blood in the shoe' thing is about him needing to punish himself for whatever transgression he'd committed in his past, to show the depth of his shame and insanity.

[@watergryphon9976]

Really love the fact that you can scan the QR code’s in the episodes and it actually leads somewhere

[@flareb99]

Natalie when slightest bit of adversity arrives for a character: water works

[@WatchTekLive]

I think this is the only time I've cried more than you in a show! I had to pause and step away!

[@BratBond1]

33:26 Wow! I have never seen you react so shocked in all of your reactions. Well done, Marvel! Great reaction, Natalie, and congrats to you on 300K subs! Definitely earned and deserved, and congrats on another milestone for you. You're finally caught up on the MCU! So now, you get to wait on the movies and shows like the rest of us, beginning with Ms. Marvel next week. Have fun!

[@sara-jayn]

I always cry when Nat starts crying and saying oh god.

[@srae1971]

The fact that it was such a large departure is one of the reasons I loved it so much. The psych ward, when he's there with Dr Harrow in the office, seems to be where Marc/Steven/Jake (I guess) goes mentally when he is overwhelmed. I don't know much about DID so I don't want to start talking and get it all wrong, but my understanding is that the office with Harrow was not a real physical place. The glass in his shoes was Harrow trying to serve penance for his imbalance. He tells Ammit that he hoped his penance would be enough to balance his scales. Also I really don't understand why people feel so bad for the dad. Sure he was traumatized too, but he just stood by while his wife mentally, emotionally, and physically abused his child, for years. He could have taken him and gotten him out of that situation and gotten him help but he just stayed there and let it all happen. He might have been powerless to help his wife but he wasn't powerless to help his son, yet he did nothing.

[@kingsmythe]

I thought it was a great series and really enjoyed every moment of it. Of course, I'm also a comic book geek who has been reading Moon Knight for years

[@axebeard6085]

"Just get some therapy" If his brother drowned sometime in the 70's or early 80's, then getting therapy was very problematic. In the 70's and 80''s, therapy wasn't as popular as it is today. A lot of people want to blame "mental health stigma" for why so many people didn't seek treatment. But there were a lot of other reasons. The 50's and 60's were a mental health horror story. And it didn't matter what your what your wealth or social status was. (Look up the story of Rosemary Kennedy to see what I mean.) It wasn't until 1967 that they stopped doing transorbital lobotomies, where they jammed an icepick into your eye socket, then wiggled it around to destroy brain tissue. AFAIK, the better psychotherapies (like Cognitive Behavior Therapy) didn't see widespread use until the late 80's. A lot of the previous therapies were very much fumbling around in the dark, with mixed results. Also, there was a lot of reluctance in religious groups to seek therapy. I don't know about the Jewish community at the time, but Southern Baptists were all about "pray the pain away". And sadly, many of them still are. To complicate matters, what we see in the show suggests a lot of denial/enabling/walking on eggshells. It looked to me like a toxic equilibrium had been reached, and no of the family members were stable enough to change that.

[@GibsonGH]

I loved this show. A few thoughts on some points you brought up. Harrow breaking the glass in his shoes was the penance he referenced when talking to Amit towards the end. He thought it would compensate for his misdeeds. It shows that he was a true believer and was willing to be devoured by Amit if she judged him negatively. The mental hospital part disorients everyone who watched this show so don't feel bad. It's based on one of the comic runs. Here's essentially what is happening. When Marc dies he is brought into the Duat, the Egyptian underworld that Taweret was describing. When she was talking to Marc and Steven she mentioned that the human mind is not able to perceive the Duat as it truly is. The mind perceives it in a form that is recognizable to the person. In Marc's case this is a mental hospital because of his mental illness, and because he has most likely been in a similar hospital before. Marc mentions at one point the "Organizing Principle". This principle is why most modern cities use a grid plan, or why the Solar System is organized around the Sun at the central point, with the planets revolving around it. In this way his mind has used the organizing principle in the creation of this "hospital". Most of the doors lead to memories. Two of them have his other two personalities in sarcophagi. There are people and objects from his subconscious throughout. You see this mainly in the large common room that the show puts us in shortly after he dies. Crowley the living statue was running the bingo game. Steven's boss and Layla are there. The orderlies are the Amit cult cops that took Steven. There's cupcakes from the cupcake truck in the first episode. Steven's rubix cube. Dr. Harrow is something different though. The personalities show up in Dr. Harrow's office everytime one of them has a hard time accepting the truth of a memory, or just anytime they are confused. Marc's mind has created the Dr.'s office as a place he goes to when he needs to mentally work something out. The Dr. role was simply a projection of someone he knows in real life. It was probably Harrow because he tends to speak in a calming manner. He also talks somewhat like a therapist. Also, the last Dr. Harrow scene when we see blood from his feet was also in Marc's mind, but it was a dream, and most likely represented the fact that Marc and Steven had found a equilibrium. Another part of this whole thing is the boat deck. When Marc steps out onto it, he is essentially leaving the Duat projection of his mind, and entering the Duat that the gods see, outside of his mind. The idea being that he must reenter the interior of the boat (his mind) to gain access to his memories. A couple other things. In the comics there is a character called the "Scarlet Scarab". Layla is the MCU's version of this character, hence the wings on the suit. Her father's name is very similar to the comic SS's real name. Her father also had a scarlet colored scarf on when he died, with a big scarab on it. The one Layla made for him. He called her his "Little Scarab". Layla in the mental hospital scene had a bandaid on her pinky with a scarlet colored scarab. Also, you've seen Jake Lockely before. He was the violent personality in Dr. Harrow's office in the cold open to episode 5. The one with the bandaid on his nose and a east coast accent. Jake speaks Spanish in the end credit scene but he's most likely multilingual. Like a lot of cabbies or drivers in general. Jake speaking Spanish is also a nod to Oscar Issac's Guatamalan heritage. Sorry, that's a lot.

[@8UG83AR]

After a few rewatches, I made sense of the reason why Harrow walks on glass to be due to a kind of self-flagellation. That or since even he's aware of how his own scales are imbalanced and how through his devotion to Ammit he was hoping for it to reverse his scales, he could've seen it also as a form of penance working towards that.

[@jessm.porthos]

I love all the layers

[@bingbongboi2046]

Natalie: "You can't kill Gods" Gorr: "Hold my necrosword" 🤣

[@markgucor7563]

Really excited with this. Especially with episode 5. Really enjoying the content Nat, more power to you.

[@HyliaProphet]

Editor knew what he was doing when he zoomed in on the "subtitles" after Natalie said he looks so happy

[@jeffrogers2180]

It's proof of what a good show it was that so much thought can be devoted to it afterwards.

[@oliviarogers2808]

They've been dropping hints of a third personality all season. In episode 1, there was a shot of "Steven" with three reflections. Then in the next couple episodes when Marc takes over he blacks out and finds slaughtered people around him with no clue how. Then in the underworld there was a red sarcophagus that they didn't open.

[@thatHARVguy]

Don't forget the flip-phone. When scrolling all the missed calls from Layla, there was one from Lockley.

[@mylife-23]

Alter

[@strikerblitz2164]

Also in episode 1, we find out "Steven" had apparently asked his coworker out on a date. Given that Marc went through such great lengths to hide his existence from Steven, it wouldn't make any sense if it was him. Also in the end credits we can see a shot of Oscar Issac's face being split into 3, obviously representing Steven, Marc and Jake.

[@starfallstreams]

they're alters not personalities!

[@oliviarogers2808]

@@starfallstreams It's called a PERSONALITY system. "'Alters' are the person's alternate personalities. Some people with DID have up to 100 alters. Alters tend to be very different from one another. The identities might have different genders, ethnicities, interests and ways of interacting with their environments." Source: Cleveland Clinic, a MEDICAL source!

[@hannahterry6316]

For the first time since I started watching you a year ago, I had the drink and snack ready right before you uploaded, let's goooo

[@ThePonderer]

That 5th episode, man. Woof.

[@joshuacampbell7493]

Very heartbreaking.

[@beezyqueen]

as with your last video, many if not most of your questions can be cleared up with a more comprehensive understanding of DID! from my understanding, the creators put time into researching marc’s canonical disorder, and for me at least i was able to pick up a lot of what they were putting down, so to speak. i don’t have DID, but going into it with a cursory understanding of how systems/inner worlds and such work helped me follow along pretty well with this show.

[@winterwolf211]

You can hear the glass crinkling in Harrow's shoes sometimes when he walks. It's implied that he does it as penance for his sins, he cried when Ammit said his scales are in the red, in front of his God he's a sinner and was even willing to be killed by Ammit. This is similar to self-flagellation that happens to religious fanatics who want to erase their sins. Like some Christians in other parts of the world that are willing to reenact the suffering of Christ leading up to his crucifixion. The worshippers will get whipped and tortured before being crucified at a cross.

[@aresgaming3114]

Moonknight is one of the best web series from Marvel. The chaos, the story and Isaac's acting took to a whole new level. Absolutely Loved it.

[@thechad4485]

Harrow isn’t nearly as manipulative as Kingpin or Kilgrave, but that’s not a knock on Harrow as much as it is evidence as to how great Kingpin and Kilgrave are as the top villains of the MCU.

[@chocolatedoughnut1305]

Just from the first episode I knew this would be my favorite MCU show, and sure enough it only got better as each episode went on

[@nintenmetro]

Episode 4: Marc arguing with Steven then punching himself cracked me up. On a heartfelt note though, Layla's dynamic with Steven is a clear contrast to her recent dynamic with Marc. All the same, I was glad that Steven told her why Marc was pushing her away to begin with. In real life, we've yet to find Alexander's tomb. Late last year, Egyptian officials reported that it might be buried in Siwa. Episode 5: Marc slapped himself violently because he was already dealing with the guilt of losing his brother Randall and Steven said the words that triggered his trauma. His mom Wendy would say those words to him. He didn't want to relive that, but Steven piled on the fact that millions including Layla were in danger. Episode 6: You know Wanda as the Scarlet Witch. Well now get to know Layla as the Scarlet Scarab! She can give Sam a run for his money (or a flight). I guess Doctor Octopus isn't the only one with competition. Mohamed Diab's daughter wanted to straighten her hair because she never saw anyone in major media who looked like her. Now she's proud to have her hairstyle after seeing the MCU's first Egyptian superhero and next potential Avenger. And finally, my parents are from Quetzaltenango. So I freaked out when I saw Oscar speaking Spanish at the end.

[@MrWTFgameplay]

Can i ask, how was his pronunciation? Cuz i have no reference.

[@rayrayl.4087]

I love love LOVE Layla's and Steven's interactions. I know Disney would never do this, but I would love it if Layla, Marc, and Steven got together in a poly relationship. They all fit together for different reasons but I'm especially happy how Marc's and Steven's relationship improved. I feel both need Layla in their lives.

[@nintenmetro]

@@MrWTFgameplay what do you mean?

[@beached1093]

Please I would love for you to do Midnight Mass, it's such a great thriller/suspense series!! It's so great at showing how cultic faith is when pushed to the extreme and it gives such a chilling vibe

[@vijaykrishnan183]

If you want to see a darker show from the mcu, watch the daredevil series. Imo it is THE best show that marvel has made by a long shot.

[@blakartist2000]

I really enjoyed this show and I give Kevin Feigie a lot of love for exploring mental health in such a respectful way. WandaVision addressed mental health as well with grief and Moon Knight DID was explored with Marc using Steven to escape from his painful world but had to face it in death was acted out brilliantly by Oscar Isaac

I laughed so hard with your screams Natalie hahaha

[@evanrainey5125]

They did such a wonderful job with this show, especially episode 5. That was a dark, deep emotional mind fuck. I'm glad they did this as a show as opposed to a movie, so they didn't have to rush to tell the story. On a side note, you freaking out in episode 4 made me laugh so hard and it's something I needed since my father passed Tuesday morning. Thank you for that, Nat.

[@dylanmorrisbrown2987]

Season 2 isn't needed it's a necessity

[@FlazillaYT]

It needs to be tv-ma

[@mjr320]

the glass in the shoe was his penance he was performing to try and balance his scale, amd also when stephen yelled 6 on the boat it was a reference to a cricket shot (as he is british)

[@linz7683]

Oscar's character has DiD. You should check braiDIDbunch's reactions to this series from DiD perspective. I think it'll clear up lot of your questions at the end.

[@Baiko]

Oscar Isaac's brother Mike often played the other role when Isaac was playing the other one, when both of him were in the scene together. And then Isaac would play the other part similarly.

[@willjohnson8446]

Jake, the driver, has been there all along. He’s been the one doing the truly dirty work. Remember when Steven got into the cupcake truck and said he didn’t even have a license? While Marc compartmentalized his happy thoughts into Steven, he put his worst thoughts into Jake.

[@ma.2089]

We don’t have proof that the worst thoughts are Jake. Esp considering it’s likely that Jake is the one who let the cultists go and tried to get to the airport in episode 3. Steven wouldn’t leave Cairo when the world is in danger.

[@willjohnson8446]

@@ma.2089 Steven definitely would leave. He wanted to return to London. Jake wound up stabbing someone not long after.

[@mcfearsun]

Love all the misdirects and stereotypes in episode 4 only for the big reveal, this show stays pretty consistent with playing with your expectations until the big marvel battle at the end lol

[@elcano091]

I felt the same way as you when the show ended. Did some digging, cuz as much as I am a fan of the MCU I never grew up with comics, and apparently the show has the same vibe as the comics. I read that with every issue or story on comics would ended very open, leaving the reader with a bunch of question left for interpretation.

[@sajin4515]

Somebody give Oscar Issac an award for the Episode 5, it's true genius acting ❤️❤️

[@RevengerPhoenix]

I hope you finally give daredevil a chance, now that you’re “caught up”. Because Matt is gonna keep showing up in more D+ and you’re gonna keep cutting his scenes from your reactions. Like you did with No Way Home. Now its the time. Please at least watch season 1 of DD