Absolutely agree with this, I came to the same conclusion and got the result I wanted - just run more and, run on fatigued legs (even if it feels like walking pace). I enjoyed every training session during the week, they all had their own benefits, but the one I enjoyed the most was my Sunday run. I'd do a 14km race-pace run, then I'd do my long run at easy pace. It was a grind, especially towards the end as I could feel my legs getting fatigued, but I could just feel the physical and mental strength building and building each week. Then when you see the results, you know it's the right type of training
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks, that long run sounds tough, but worthwhile. Yes when I see the results from my training it's motivating to keep going. Mentally it can be tough sometimes so you need to stop and realise how far you've come occasionally.
@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441 Жыл бұрын
Your 14km race paced run do you mean you 14k at goal 42km pace sat...then longrun easy the next day on fatigued legs?
@thepsychologist8159 Жыл бұрын
@@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441 My 14km is at goal half-marathon pace. I'd then do a short cool-down walk, stop to take on some sports drink and a gel, then straight after I'd go out for an easy-pace long run. During the week I'd do a few different sessions. Easy-pace run and incline strides on Tuesday, a progressive/hard 16km on Wednesday, then an easy-pace long run on Thursday and Friday. The Friday run is when the legs were feeling fatigued and even though at times I didn't feel like doing the distance, I pushed myself to complete it and I'm always glad I did.
@curreretraining999 Жыл бұрын
Great result in London Patrick. I spotted you on Strava a couple of years ago after you ran the Eastleigh 10k. Impressed that you run that fast so early in the morning! It’s very inspiring that you have followed your own path with your training and not gone the ‘conventional’ route! Your approach makes a lot of sense. I have spent many years running lots of VO2 max sessions and ‘easy’ pace runs and plateaued at about 33:30 for 10k. Started doing a mix of steady and threshold running the last 18 months and managed to get down to 32:38 for 10k at aged 44. Hoping to improve in the future. Will subscribe to your channel as I like your straightforward approach with no gimmicks etc. Good luck with your training and thanks for sharing.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! 32.38 for the 10k at 44 is superb. That's very interesting that you plateaued with the more traditional training and the steady and threshold helped you improve when you were older. There's definitely something in those more steady runs! For me they keep me more in touch with race pace than running easy most of the time. I hope you continue to improve and thanks so much for subscribing.
@LaMonteStennis3 ай бұрын
that's insane
@stephen95728 ай бұрын
Patrick, clearly you are a natural runner and one of the elite.This group of runners are blessed with a physiology ( heart, lungs, arteries,blood vessels), that allow you to produce these excellent results.Many of us can never achieve anywhere near this level of success.This doesn't prevent us from taking a leaf out of your book, particularly the theme of being consistent.Very well done.
@alperenbirim Жыл бұрын
Amazing achievement! I already expected what you would be talking about when I saw the title. People think running fast intervals makes you fast but it is actually all the aerobic running that does the trick. It takes a lot of time, it is boring but it gets the job done :) Hope you keep getting better at running.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's simple, maybe boring, but works! Thank you
Hi M ,another 10 in the bag today base pace,keep building up the foundation over the winter ,good channel
@mountaingoat1982 Жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, all I can say is what you have achieved is absolutely incredible, it really is!! You have shown that no matter how old you are or how many years you’ve been running, fantastic times can be achieved through consistent and relatively simple steady and high mileage training. You are a massive inspiration to me and I will be looking forward to what you can achieve in your next marathon and other races as well. Well done sir 👍🏽 and keep at it.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm very glad I could inspire you in some way. I'm also glad the message of how my consistent high mileage made the difference for me came across clearly. Keep going whatever the goals are in your own life and training.
@mountaingoat1982 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick and I appreciate your reply. I am nowhere near your level but I would like to improve and maybe run a marathon one day - I need to shift this knee pain I am currently experiencing and then I will try to start running again. I too mainly do easy/steady miles but around the 20-25 mpw mark. I will try to up this as best as I can. Good luck
@TomaszSzalapski Жыл бұрын
It’s so cool Patrick. Thank you
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@nickb1201 Жыл бұрын
Well done Patrick - on your running efforts and your beginnings on KZbin. I've enjoyed your first videos and subscribed. I'm really impressed with your results but not surprised. As a runner of many, many years, I totally agree that consistency and putting in the miles are the key factors. Many people (as you say, often under the influence of social media) often over complicate their approach to running and do too many intricate sessions too early in their running careers. There's no substitute for time on your feet and keeping it simple (I know this well from personal experience). I'm really impressed though by the amount of volume you manage to achieve (presumably without too many or perhaps any injuries). I do think that modern running shoes allow runners to better achieve this as well as reducing recovery time after training. I'd be really interested to hear which shoes you did use during your training blocks as well as whether you thought your choices were good, or could be improved. Keep up the good work, good luck with the channel and most importantly, keep enjoying your running.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Nick and thanks for subscribing. You're obviously very experienced and have seen for yourself the value of consistency too. I've had a couple of injuries but nothing too bad, I think not doing too much high end speed helps, I like steady paced runs that keep me in touch with speed and I can run them regularly without too much risk. I'm sure modern shoes help a lot. I have used the Saucony Endorphin Speed versions 1,2 and 3 for the last 2 years and love them. I find they work for any pace and last me a long time. I've run thousands of miles in each pair and they've always still got life in them. I'll do a video on this at some point.
@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning I loved the Series 1 Endorphin Speed. Ran 1200km on my pair.
@jamesware7763 Жыл бұрын
Very inspiring Patrick…Arthur Lydiard used to train his athletes like this.. high mileage huge endurance base. I’ve been building up the base and also insert a tempo run once a week followed by an interval session the week after but not going hard on those type of sessions. Just want to keep consistent as you mentioned and ensure I stay injury free.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much James, yes I read quite a bit of Lydiards training methods and it helped me understand how consistency of mileage is so important. Sounds like you're doing the right things.
@jamesware7763 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I also might start using the Saucony endorphin speed as my Saucony Triumph’s are coming to the end of their shelf life so it sounds like the endorphin’s you are using are a great all-round shoe. I’ll go and make the purchase upon your recommendation 👍
@milanmiharomic1914 Жыл бұрын
good stuff, subscribed. Looking forward to your future videos. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the support, I really appreciate you subscribing too.
@guzgrant Жыл бұрын
Great runner managing great running . I love the heresy of this . The willingness to share the secret that there is no big secret and that volume and consistency are what creates mastery . So many people out there self promoting and taking credit for magic formulas which are simply the placebos which happen along side the volume and consistency which are what really get the improvements .
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad I was able to get that message across.
@marcredford6475 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely astounding performance! Look forward to more videos and I’ll certainly be following your inspirational progress 😊👍🏻
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ahmadjohari4650 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Patrick! just so you know, even for your age and 3.5 years of running experience. If you were in my country you'd have the national record and thats some crazy stuff. I just started running a month ago, and this has inspired me to get going for higher mileage. Cheers 😀 Im from Malaysia btw
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Wow that's amazing, I guess it shows that I really did run well that day! I'm really glad I could inspire you. Keep going towards your goals. Thanks very much.
@MrSilain Жыл бұрын
Wow! Subscribed! Very inspiring! 🙂👌🏻
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ichimarugin3352 Жыл бұрын
I'm 36 & started running about 1 and a half years ago. at first, i can't even run continuously for 20 minutes 😅, i'm on the lighter side of the scale, but it's just that my fitness really sucks.. finally able to run non-stop with zone 2 / maf. after that, the 'research' game is on, read everything about running, zone 2, 80/20, watch every workouts, speed, threshold, steady, bla3... but i'm still slow, most of my running includes workouts, but i realized that i've been in 'stagnated state' for some time now... watching your videos, it's like a hammer on the head.. with those workouts, i'm unable to push the mileage that much cuz of the fatigue. which made me realize that what i'm missing is the pillar of running, the aerobic work, the base, the mileage, i think this is the root cause of my problem, my aerobic base is not developed enough... thanks bro, this really opened my eyes, gonna reset the mindset & build a strong foundation first then, hope that i can build up the mileage slowly
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Yes the base is so important and from there everything else was easier for me. I had to put in the mileage to build that base, it takes time but is the foundation. Good luck with your training.
@rishimishra123 Жыл бұрын
This gives me hope that i can do it too. I like consistent boring work.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
It doesn't have to be boring if you try to enjoy each run. Although that's easier said than done sometimes when you're running so much.
@livegreatalways Жыл бұрын
I'll try to run more after listening to your advice. Main issue is time. I currently wakes up early 5am to clock my mileage. Evening usually difficult due to work. I max out at around 90-100km/week. Tq for this video. I got your point.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
That's great, keep going. Finding the time is one of the hardest things I found too. Sounds like you're similar to me and do the early morning runs.
@livegreatalways Жыл бұрын
@patrickmartinrunning so that we can get it all done before anything else. No excuse huh..
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Yep no excuses!
@janetbradford2026 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Patrick! What a great achievement 😊 really outstanding, & very inspiring too, you really make me believe that I can get better with my times too! I will be looking out for more of your videos, thank you so much for sharing this ❤😊🎉.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Janet. I'm so glad you feel inspired, that's my aim with these videos. The best of luck with your running and do keep following along.
@dannyvulich Жыл бұрын
Most peoples bodies will break down well before they get to 100 miles per week. Not everyone can do that that’s why it’s amazing.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
For me I built up to the 100 mile weeks over time, but that's just me and everyone responds differently for sure.
@dannyvulich Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning my body breaks down at 30. But I’m currently trying to slowly build up by adding 1 mile per week. I’m at 18 right now. Hopefully by the end of the year I’m in the high 40s per week!
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
That's a sensible way of increasing your mileage. Good luck
@bobcook-b8g Жыл бұрын
Incredible. Have you looked at qualifying races for an England Masters jersey? Could you share what your fitness background pre running was please?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes I ran for England Masters last year in the 10k. I won the M40 age group in 31:51 at the Great Bristol Run. I'll probably make a video about that actually. Before running I used to play some tennis, 2-3 times a week and always kept generally fit, did some strength training on and off too. I would occasionally run, quite infrequently but I thought 5k was a long way! I explain a bit more about my background in this video if you're interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXzNla2FpL6WrZY
@DrProfX Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@leafulchermasterunner Жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DrProfX Жыл бұрын
3:40 per km pace is rather fast - so, essentially it’s like a tempo run that you were doing almost daily …
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
It wasn't quite daily but as much as I felt like I could run that pace. If I was tired I would slow it down and go easy. I run by feel more than the time. If I could take running that speed more I would but to get in the volume I have to slow down or I'll get fatigued and injured.. That's just the way I did it.
@ellenycnyc Жыл бұрын
The 2 a days 🙌
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
They made the difference for me!
@MyJoey90 Жыл бұрын
That’s impressive with 3.5 years of running. My goal is to get a sub 3 lol.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
A sub 3 marathon is very impressive. Think of the percentage of the population that have run under 3 hours for a marathon, not many.
@drdanyu Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your incredible performance!! I watch this video everyday now to remind myself the simple truth "Miles make Champions" (by Arthur Lydiard).
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Lydiard knew a thing or two!
@drdanyu Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning I just now need to find a pub 3-4 miles away to add more mileage in the evening 😆
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Haha that's motivation!
@nickarndt7637 Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Thank you for posting, Patrick. Our ages, mileage, and running story (been at it for just a little less time) align very similarly...but your paces are ASTOUNDING. I'm very curious - how did your pace progress over the 3-ish years? Your 2:24 marathon is approximately 3:25/KM (5:30/Mile) and your steady runs leading up you said were 3:45/3:55/KM (6:00/6:20/Mile), but how long did it take you to run those steady runs at that pace? What was your starting pace for those steady runs, approximately? Just curious what the progression looked like. Thanks so much, and please post more - if time allows .😃
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I'm really glad you've enjoyed the content. I think around 4:05/km would have been the starting pace for those steady runs back when I started. It's a bit crazy but up until about 2 1/2 years ago I didn't even look at my pace per km, I just ran and timed it, so I didn't look at the pace. When I started to think more about it my steady pace was already about 3:55/km. For a lot of my training I just run as fast as I feel like going on that run and it usually ends up being 3:45 - 3:55/km for the faster runs.
@nickarndt7637 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning Interesting! Thanks for the reply. I like it. There's so much emphasis on running slowly (low HR, Zone 2, 80/20, etc.) now, but I'm gravitating lately towards more "steady" runs like you are describing with a bit more effort (but staying un-inured, of course). Without more "steady" work, I just don't feel I can develop faster speed/pace. This might be up to 50% of my mileage, which goes against most common practices. However, I always think back to an answer Jakob Ingebrigtsen gave to an amateur runner/interviewer once on an obscure podcast, when asked how to get faster. He answered, "That's easy - run as fast as you can, as far as you can, as often as you can, without getting hurt."
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Great quote, that sums it up really
@aajayi Жыл бұрын
Well done Patrick. I’ve liked and subscribed 😊. Half marathon is my favourite distance so please let me know how many miles I need to run 🏃♂️ per week to drop from 110 minutes to sub 90 minutes for the half marathon distance. I currently only 0:14 run an average of 45 miles per week as I have a full time job 😂
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I prefer not to give advice because everyone is different and there are many factors that can affect your own personal performance. For me, running as many miles as I could consistently helped me build endurance and the speed came from running lots of steady pace miles. The consistency is so important for me too.
@A-betterMe Жыл бұрын
subscribed... I've put in for the London marathon 24... my first at 47...well I'll be 48 then... I've been doing 10k 3x a wk consistently building my base... should I get in to the London I wanted to go sub 4hrs... and yep I need to do more haha but just building up my body really.... however you've got me thinking about going quicker... gulp haha.... also I think I've found you on Strava... James S is the name... would be great follow your training there too 👍💪
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Good luck with getting into London. Sounds like you're consistent with the training which is a big part of getting better in my experience.I didn't go crazy with the training at first because I didn't want to get injured so beware of doing too much when your body isn't used to it. I've found a lot is possible with hard work, but make sure you enjoy it or it's not worth the effort! I've accepted you on Strava, and thanks so much for subscribing.
@A-betterMe Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning oh yea listening to my body is a big thing in my head
@MikeNolan59 Жыл бұрын
What an absolute freak, inspirational beyond belief well done Patrick 👏 Watched many types of running videos on how to get faster and this one just stands out to me, simple, effective and straight to the point. Looking forward to seeing how your next marathon goes 🏃♂️ Just got back into running myself a couple months ago and hoping to do my first 50k at the end of July. Only ever done a couple half marathons years ago but I know if I put the work in I’ll get there. I only do a quick 5/10k once a week and a long run (started from 20k now up to 33k - increasing the distance by a couple km every week) either Friday or Saturday. Definitely going to incorporate more runs through the week, what kind of distance would you run in the morning and evening? Your pace is insane I’d love to reach that level one day 😅
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you found the video helpful. Good luck with the 50k in July. The long run you're doing sounds like a good idea, a weekly long run is crucial for me in marathon training. I would run 14km-20km in the morning depending on how I felt and nearly always 10km easy in the evenings. I always feel like the morning run was a good quality session and the evening run was an easy aerobic workout.
@MikeNolan59 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning thanks a lot for the detailed response, it’s greatly appreciated! I’m a bin man and already walk roughly 20k steps every day so I can’t see myself going out every single day but I understand the training needed to get to that level. Do you just stick with marathons or do any ultras too? You would absolutely blitz a 50k!
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
I'm just sticking to Marathons for now. The ultras seem another level! Being a bin man means you get exercise which probably helps your fitness. There was a very good marathon runner in the 80s Jimmy Ashworth who was a bin man and also ran twice a day. He said he was always tired. Very hard to do that with a physical job like yours.
@hotsourvideos6403 Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in your thoughts on the following topics based on your experience: monitoring heart rate to stay below aerobic threshold in training, how did you build up to current training mileage (particularly in first year), and whether you have a rest day each week. All the best to you.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I don't use heart rate to stay below threshold, I go by feel. I try to keep things as simple as possible because I want to keep enjoying it and for me worrying about heart rate stats takes some of the enjoyment out of running. Other people are different and find it useful. When I first started running I was only running every other day because I thought that was a lot! I then read more and realised it wasn't, so I started training every day. Then after about 6 months of that I upped it to twice a day, not every day but a lot of days. So by doing this I gradually increased my mileage naturally. When I'm in marathon training I don't have days off unless my body tells me I need it or I feel a slight niggle. More rest days are something I think I should have more of as I get older.
@sandeepsomasunder33973 ай бұрын
Could you share your running schedule, what you do in the week, when u do slow run ? When u do fast run ?
@pclarke41 Жыл бұрын
Great advice. Any tips on how to build up the mileage while managing to keep the legs fresh and injury free?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes run by feel. For me if I'm feeling tired on a certain day I'll run very easy. But if I feel like running a bit faster I will. Just because I think that day I should be running a certain speed, doesn't mean its good for me and if my body tells me not to I won't. Also although I do talk about consistency being so important (which it is for me), I do try to understand when it's time to take a break for a day or 2 or more in a marathon block. Rest can be better than hammering out the miles and getting injured. I'm not great at that and still should take more of my own advice though.
@Rowrun Жыл бұрын
Could you link your strava here please? Would love to follow your journey there too. Subscribed here!
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Here's my Strava, thanks for subscribing www.strava.com/athletes/1859864
@therunningtattooartist5172 Жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick! Amazing story! Do you pay attention to your HR? Or purely by feel.. steady morning easy evening..thank you. Ash
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! No I don't pay attention to my heart rate, I just go by feel. I try to keep everything as simple as possible and just enjoy running.
@ronanhalpenny3184 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Thats an amazing marathon time and thanks for sharing your training approach - very interesting! Im just interested- how many days a week did you run doubles and for how many weeks before the race?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. I ran doubles most days, with 1 single long run per week. I did that for around 16 weeks before the marathon. It becomes part of a daily routine and I didn't find it as hard as I thought I would. There's a mental and physical side to it and I found each became easier over time.
@ronanhalpenny3184 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning thanks for the reply Patrick. Looking forward to following your progress towards your next marathon. Best of luck.
@Stevenc1984 Жыл бұрын
I've slowly built up my volume over the last 5 years to now at 60 M.P.W. and I've probably seen more improvement over the last year than I had over the previous 4. Do you work through training blocks or just keep it very simple and consistent all the way through? Also do you know what time you would need to qualify as an elite? 33rd at London is an incredible result!
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sounds like you're putting in consistent mileage which is the best thing to do in my opinion. For London I focused for 3-4 months before on lots of miles, I guess you could call it a training block but in the latter half of last year I was running lots of mileage too so it wasn't much different. I think if I can take lots of mileage most of the time then I'll do it and it has to help. I've cut back a lot since London because I feel like I need to recover and I have a few niggles. But I'll be back to high mileage when my body feels ready. I've no idea what time it takes to qualify for elite. I'm sure somewhere sub 2.20.
@Stevenc1984 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning Hopefully you get to race as an elite. Must be a big advantage to have your own fuelling every 5km or so.
@vlid0 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call your result unusual, I'd call it mightily impressive. What's even more impressive for me is that you ran 2:28 for your first marathon. Do you have any previous sports background ? At what point in your running did you start running twice a day? Last year I did 2:41 at the age of 34 after a little over two years of running. My body, however, simply cannot take the high mileage yet without getting injured and I have never done more than 65 miles per week, averaging 50-55.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you! In my 30's I played tennis 2 or 3 times a week and football when I was a kid but other than that no sporting background. I started adding twice a day runs when I was 40 and felt like I had trained enough that my body could take it. A build up to the high mileage is really important. 2.41 is a fantastic time after 2 years of running, sounds like you've got a lot of potential and you're still only mid 30's.
@vlid0 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning Thank you, I hope that I'll get to your level, your story is an inspiration!
@Blessed19720 Жыл бұрын
Just think what you would’ve done if you started at say 20yrs old
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wish I had! But at least I've found running now rather than never.
@barneyreed2315 Жыл бұрын
How much mileage did you do at marathon pace in the build up
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
It's hard to put a number on it but when I felt good I would run steady pace 3.45 -3.50 mins per km for me regularly. That's slower than marathon pace but allowed me to keep in touch with it. I run a lot on hills too, so the adjusted pace would be lower I guess. I'm not a fan of running lots of slow mileage, it makes me feel slower!
@TobyNewbatt Жыл бұрын
Such an amazing achievement this Patrick - whats your next marathon running target? Are you looking to get even faster? I'm looking to get my first under my belt this year. Only a couple of years doing running.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Toby. I'll be running an autumn marathon, probably the Chester Marathon. I'm having 2 or 3 weeks break at the moment and will be back training for that. My aim is to run 2.20. Best of luck with your first one, you can surprise yourself even if you've only been running a short time.
@TobyNewbatt Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning keep up with the videos too, I know what it’s like to start a channel. After 200 videos it gets easier 👍👍👍
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very much finding my feet with making the videos at the moment as you will be able to tell!
@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this 100%...great message. Many Runners are scared of volume or get injured because theyre trying to juggle too much Intensity (2 to 3 Sessions a wk) with Trying to build Volume. As you say Running a nice Steady Aerobic Morn Effort with an evening jog after work seems very smart to me. It clearly worked brilliantly for you & many other high mileage runners. Very similar to "The Lydiard Way" Philosophy you obv werent huffing & puffing at your half marathon (near lt2) pace each morn. Do you ever track chest strap heartrate also? Curious when you ran your 4 wks of 10x 1km were you essentially aiming on Critical Velocity/Threshold between that 30-60min pace and curious on your Rest breaks if youd delve into that id love to hear from you. Exceptional running Sir. Have you heard of Josh Sambrook he loves high volume very easy running and a few 5k efforts here and there and he ran a 2:28 . He does alot of double runs around 10-16k often as slow as 4:40/k. Cheers
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. Yes this method seems to build an aerobic base which can lead to really good times if you're consistent with it. I don't track my heart rate I normally just like to go by feel and I always think that the main thing to do is enjoy it and not worry about the numbers. If I enjoy it I'll run more and be more motivated to go out more. With the 10 x 1k reps I was aiming to get my body used to the build up of lactate at faster speeds and really just to add another dimension to my fitness. I would have 60 second rest periods between each rep. I think I watched a video interview with Josh, it could have been someone else though. A young guy who runs 3 times a day at slow paces. It was interesting - building a strong base again.
@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning yeah young Josh Sambrook was interviewed by The Extra Milest Podcaster Floris Gierman. He's got some awesome high volume Maf style runners on his podcast over the years. Doing the math on your 3:50/km morn run vs Marathon best 3:25/km your morn Steady Effort is similar to me needed to run about 4:45/km for a 4:15/km Marathon. Looks like your 6 morn runs & longrun might total approx 120km with say 6-7 evening easy runs atleast 20sec/km slower than your morn steady runs possibly around 7-9km in the eve? I love your results are being achieved off simply a massive robust Aerobic Program.
@benhadman2812 Жыл бұрын
This is very impressive, it's hard to conceive that you could develop the lactate thresholds required for your marathon pace without any interval training. Do you use Strava?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I did do some interval training for a few weeks leading up to the marathon but it's not something I do on a regular basis. Yes, my Strava is www.strava.com/athletes/1859864
@donalanseo310 Жыл бұрын
What pace for steady runs? And what was typical distance of morning steady run and evening easy run. Well done with effort.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you. For me I run about 3.45-3.55 mins per/km for steady runs. Morning 14km -20km depending on how I feel, evening runs generally about 10km. If I don't feel like running steady in the morning I'll just go easy and let my body tell me what to do.
@donalanseo310 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning interesting. For the long runs I do a steady , upper aerobic pace too. Does wonders for the fitness and doesn't exhaust you too much. Add some marathon pace but not every week in last 8 weeks. The 10x1k track set is a key component I reckon. But yes add in late.
@haimeiyou Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story and sharing your experience. I'm very pleased to hear this because I often get overwhelmed with all the different training advice out there. Do you do any strength training/weight lifting or other cross training to avoid injury? I started running about a year ago and have suffered two injuries as I began ramping up mileage and intensity.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Yes I found all the different training advice out there very overwhelming too, but for me the simple things made the difference. If I feel like I might be getting a niggle or injury I will often use the spinning bike. I actually think that incorporating more cross training into my training can only be a good thing and will give my body a rest from the stress of running. I've recently started doing some strength training with dumbells because it's not something I've done before whilst running and think it could help me improve. I'm running less at the moment as I'm recovering from the recent races so I've more time to do it, which helps.
@vincentcrowley51968 ай бұрын
Im joining a cheap gym to get access to rowing machines and exercise bikes as i live in a small flat without space to keep equipment. I do kettlebell swings and resistance band stretching indoors plus i also do calf raises on steps outside to help me with shin splints.
@adultslovepokemon6615 Жыл бұрын
Great video and amazing time with your level of experience. I’m curious, how did you fit this amount of training in with work and a family? Do you have kids and a spouse? I would find it difficult for me personally to hit an average of 15-20 miles a day so I’m curious.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes I have a wife and 2 kids under 6. When training for the marathon I ran very early in the morning. 5am often and then again in the evening. I got most of the miles done in the morning when everyone is asleep. It's not easy in the winter when it's cold and dark.
@adultslovepokemon6615 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning awesome. Thanks for the response brother! Taking notes
@honza185911 ай бұрын
Hi, nice story and great marathon time. What parts of the running technique are the most important in your opinion?
@patrickmartinrunning11 ай бұрын
Maybe not technique so much but keeping bounce and responsiveness in your leg muscles by running fast lots. Running fast and slow have different techniques and I like to use the faster technique and those muscles a lot.
@adamfakhzan Жыл бұрын
I have one real question. How you decided to run what pace at every run? Is that any specific pace for hard and easy? Also I wanted to know weather you do a strength in your training cycle?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
I mainly just run how I feel like running. But what normally happens is a steady pace run when I'm feeling good at approximately 3.45 - 3.55 mins per/km or an easy run at anything over 4.05 per/km. I just go out and run what I feel like doing mostly, as long as I get in the miles. I haven't done strength training but am starting to add it now.
@adamfakhzan Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning aight thanks for that
@mkdesu Жыл бұрын
Great video, do you have strava that you can share?
@@patrickmartinrunning requested to follow name is Charles if its okay
@skybirdnomad Жыл бұрын
How long does it take you to get through a 20mile run while training? Yeah I been pretty consistent at like 3 - 5 miles / day for the past 4 months or so and I can feel the difference. I love it. But I need to take a couple weeks off since I feel my knees are getting strained
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
2 and a bit hours. Yeah if you feel like you're getting tired or getting an injury you need a bit of recovery time. Consistency can be looked at long term, days and weeks off when you need it are good and help.
@lukefennell4944 Жыл бұрын
Hi do you just have insane genetics or could someone do what you have done with the same dedication thanks.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
This is a good question. I obviously have natural ability because my first 10k was fast for a beginner but I've also put in a lot of effort consistently and I've seen progress with that effort. Everyone is different so I can't speak for what other people can achieve. But for me this style of training (consistent mileage) has worked well. I saw the results quite quickly from training like this so that was motivating to keep going and give me confidence I could run good times.
@TheMassif Жыл бұрын
It’s not just the natural speed, it’s also the incredible resilience to injury…running that type of mileage, consistently, is not just dedication but a great talent! Great achievement
@PDARUNS Жыл бұрын
Supplements?? Sarms etc??
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
I don't take any supplements and I have definitely never taken anything performance enhancing. The only thing I take regularly is vitamin D because I live in the UK and we don't get much sun!
@PDARUNS Жыл бұрын
@Patrick Martin good man 👌 wasnt accusing you of anything by the way. Can i have the name of the vitamin D tablet? Just need get me some. Cheers.
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
@Peter Donnelly just the ones from Holland and Barrett. No idea if they do any good but seems like a good idea!
@English.runner.en.Espana Жыл бұрын
Do you have Strava Patrick?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Yes here it is www.strava.com/athletes/1859864
@English.runner.en.Espana Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning cheers requested. benjaminhall. Would love to see your numbers.
@lean22813 ай бұрын
I only run 50 miles a day. I am a disgrace
@smellysam Жыл бұрын
Leeemee guess... Run a metric F ton?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Something like that!
@pitdouma3685 Жыл бұрын
Do you have strava?
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Yes, please do follow if you're interested www.strava.com/athletes/1859864
@husainnaqi6016 Жыл бұрын
youy always said you ran 2.24 marathon at age 42 after running for only 3 and half years , BUT what was you doing before that no way you were from couch to 2.24 marathoner , i bet you was doing another indurance sport or you were a very active person
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
I played tennis 2 or 3 times a week and kept fit and in good condition. I would occasionally run and never let myself get out of condition before I started running.
@Сэм1-ч8б Жыл бұрын
Харе пиздеть! невозможно пробежать марафона за 2ч 24 минуты через трии года!
@HowIsThat69 Жыл бұрын
Im not sure its that simple. Just put in the Miles and then you run fast. A lot of runners also a lot younger than you. Put in a lot of miles weekly, and they don’t run 2,24. You definitely has some genetic gifts. And pretty sure also a lot of will power. Can I ask what your profession is? For sure I will be interesting to follow you in the future :)
@patrickmartinrunning Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes there are lots of factors to make a fast runner, but in my experience the underlying foundation has been consistency of mileage. I would have found it impossible to run fast times without that, so I see it as the main part to being able to run fast times for me. But everyone is different you're right.
@HowIsThat69 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmartinrunning I’m 53. Smoking cigarettes:( I got up running around same time as you, maybe a bit before. Lost 35kg, ran 5k in 23.30 and I ran a 10k in 49.xx. I keep cracking at it. Run a bit everyday, around 60km per week. One day I drop the smoking, and hopefully get a bit faster :) we humans, can do more than we think. But your times are unbelievable:)