I didn't expect this from the Creality K1. With Sliceworkx Filament

[@3dpprofessor]

As you're watching this, I'm probably on my way to Designer Con. www.3dpprofessor.com/2023/12/15/creality-k1-review/

[@MakerBees333]

Not “Trifecta”, but the Corner Stones of what to look for when building a makerspace. ❤ Quadfecta is a term used but the ‘ring’ to the term is probably why no one uses it. I like Tetra, tetrafecta but it again will never catch on, maybe tetfecta 😊.

[@3dpprofessor]

@@anthonylong5870 I've never seen those issues with mine.

[@gabehill9817]

I have its big brother and it has been spectacular. Picked up a textured PEI plate to replace the smooth stock plate and I've just been hammering away on it day in and day out. Braindead easy setup, ridiculously quick, and after two weeks of near constant printing I haven't had a single issue or print failure.

[@nachgebaut4176]

I heard it has some hardeware problems, did you experience any of this?

[@robbyprust]

I just bought this printer and have to say it’s first printer I bought that just works right out of the box. I love my IDEX printer but it takes a lot of tweaking to get good prints . After setting up this k1 I did the calibration thing which took about 15 mi s or so and printed out a perfect benchy first try . Now I am putting it up head to head with my IDEX printer and already on a four hour print on the IDEX the K1 is almost 3/4 of the way done and the IDEX is about 3 hours to go . Amazing so glad I got this

[@FounderOf4]

I appreciate your enthusiasm for printing peppered with some good ol sarcasm. Specifically calling out their lack of customer service is 100% spot on... Thanks for the fun content

[@Pumpkinwaffle]

The reliable and automated bed probe / Z offset sure sounds a like a feature that'd be pleasant to have. And being to able to root the machine and flash a stock version of klipper on it make it even more enticing when you're a poweruser. Nice to see they also cater to casual users with phone slicing etc. I hope Kingroon send you a KLP1 I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. It seems to be just as capable and is even more aggresively priced. These machines are still about twice the price of a bedslider but they're finally getting into a price range where it doesn't cost more than a month's rent. Maybe someday I'll get to print faster than 60mm/s :D

[@Andre_M_3D]

I picked up a k1 on the crazy sales creality recently had. My expectations were also not that high. I did not need a printer, mind you, as I have quite a few, but I am glad I did. I waited until creality unlocked the firmware and rooted it right away. And it is amazing. I do wish quality control was better, though. My build plate is quite crooked. It is off my like 1.4mm. And this is common. But it still prints well. It is just a shame that this happens often. I am still happy with it, though. Thanks for the video.

[@Wirralguy]

Mine was very low at the back on arrival but you can fix it if it's causing print issues. It involves taking the bottom of and adjusting the z belts\pulleys. I got it pretty much spot on (0.2mm front to back, even less from side to side) although I warn you, it takes a while to do as each attempt needs a re-level sequence to see how close you are! (tips: a pulley quarter turn is 1mm, don't forget it's a tripod not a square and you can run the levelling with the printer on it's side which saves loads of time!)

[@OwenWithAHammer]

thats the best thumbnail ive ever seen

[@peterlarsson691]

Great reveiw 😊. You are really fun and a pro at the same time

[@MAKEORAMA]

I love mine too except for the thing that you have to replace the complete hotend, when the thermistor is broken. But i guess time will fix this.

[@raptorheli2]

That is already fixed with the new k1c design.

[@Leonardokite]

Tell me, if you had to pick between the even newer K1C and the Flashforge 5M Pro, which would you choose?

[@3dpprofessor]

I would choose the K1C, only because I have positive hands-on experience with it, and Flashforge has yet to send me the 5M, so I don't know yet. Flashforge has a good track record, but past performance is no guarantee.

[@MrSneakyGunz]

@3dpprofessor If you haven't already, would you try the Ninjaflex in your Bambu Labs X1 Carbon and report on your findings please? I'm currently waiting for my BL X1-C to arrive and I have a full roll of NinjaFlex with a Shore Hardness of 85A. I appreciate your time and consideration. Thank you very much!

[@3dpprofessor]

I would not put it through the AMS, but if you feed it directly I have no doubt it would work.

[@Artof3drendering]

I have one K1 and recently i got a Flashforge adventurer 5m pro, i got astonished! because already like the K1 but this new flashforge adventurer 5m pro is next level!

[@3dpprofessor]

I keep asking them to send me one, and they still haven't.

[@DumahBrazorf]

Looks like they saw some of your videos and printed the additional card to the manual.

[@3dpprofessor]

I mean, if that's all it took...

[@JT40_]

I am really diggin it but still working on severe ghosting and ringing issues.

[@3dpprofessor]

I haven't noticed. Maybe I'll look closer.

[@iwannaratrod]

We must be using different Creality Cloud apps. The one I had on my phone for an hour sent me at least 10 notifications in that time. And I couldn't stop them. :D I have a K1 Max and love it though.

[@patrickh1448]

K1 max comes with camera and lidar. It prints cleaner and a little quieter than the k1. I sold my k1 and got 2 k1 max units.

[@3dpprofessor]

Plus, it prints big enough to make helmets.

[@johan23501]

This is the first time ever that I see someone so happy about the Creality app. Most don't like the app at all. Because all the ads for example. This video was mostly positive, but this printer has no cons? 🤔 Just curious, no hate at all. 😁

[@3dpprofessor]

I approach my reviews from the perspective of someone who has had to help people who had no idea no idea how to navigate a file system or unzip a file. For those folks an app that works this well could be a major stepping point to not only making but more robust computer usage.

[@filetdelumiere5037]

Having a voltage selector nowadays is unbelievable ;) So risky and from an other century... Having to put glue on the bed also.

[@3dpprofessor]

So many 3d printers still have voltage switchers I don't even think about it.

[@davidwilliams1060]

Thanks, good information. I have a Bambu for 3D but bought the Creality Falcon 2 for laser work and I’m happy with both, so not a total surprise that Creality’s latest is good. I thought the thumbnail was appropriate as it indicated a good story.

[@larrybowers]

I'd like to update to a core x-y but am concerned about noise. I'm in a home office with my quite modified E3 Pro about 5 feet away. It's very quiet albeit slow. The stuff I've heard on x-y printers is they are noisy, but I imagine that is at their top speed. So if the printer were slowed down some (say to 75% of rated speed) would the noise decrease to a level where I can be close to the printer and not hear so much?

[@3dpprofessor]

I'll have to give it a shot and see. @Aurora_Tech tests the sound on their printers. Maybe they'd know.

[@sierraecho884]

Why are we back with the stupid glue on print bed ? We have had this figured out, I don´t want to spray chemicals around at home or be needing glue or some stuff.

[@3dpprofessor]

For some reason, and maybe it's climate, but even the textured PEI sheets work better for me with a little coat of hairspray. It seems I've never found better than this.

[@kimmotoivanen]

Bambu Lab went for glue stick for no practical reason (maybe they wanted to keep bed temperature off/down, or just be different?) -> Creality followed without much thought. On V3 SE they have PC sheet, again strange decision, but at least prints stick to the sheet (too well, it seems) 🙄 It had been better to have just normal textured PEI sheet instead, or even better - dual-sided sheet with smooth (for small parts and, well, smooth bottom) and textured (for bigger prints and PETG). I have 3rd party one on Ender 3 clone (it would fit K1 🙈 ) and like it a lot.

[@sierraecho884]

@@3dpprofessor Yes, because it is an additional adhesive. My argument is I don´t want additional adhesion because I don´t want to spray that stuff around where I live. My Flashforge Adventurer 5M has a glue stick instead, that´s a better solution but still not perfect.

[@sierraecho884]

@@kimmotoivanen "...(too well, it seems) 🙄..." That´s what the glue stick is for. I print 99% in PETG which bonds to some sheets, the glue stick creates a separation layer. "...It had been better to have just normal textured PEI sheet instead..." I agree. Glue stick is way better (the special kind one) Hairspray is messy that aerosol get´s everywhere on your machine, PC, clothing it gunks everything up.

[@chriswisneski6071]

Creality seems to have a problem with their thermistor connectors. I marked mine, and it's not backing out - but unplugging and replugging it fixes the printer more than half of the time anything is wrong. I don't even bother trying to diagnose, or even Google error codes first anymore - I replug the thermistor connector first, and if that doesn't fix it, THEN I start diagnosis. I can understand pounding _every_ penny on a $100 printer. They need to spend the extra penny for a better connector if they want to compete in the $600 printer market ...

[@Kshitij-Kapotakshi167]

I must try their new version of Creality software.

[@slicedpage]

thank you. My concern is how loud it is and if so, can the offending fans be changed?

[@3dpprofessor]

I think @auroratech would be a better one to answer that.

[@ItsDaPlumber]

Just a note, Normal people get the printer in a box. Only special youtubers get the create.

[@3dpprofessor]

I was wondering about that. I actually cut a whole section about cherry picking. However, with my nozzle problem I have a hard time thinking that's possible in this case. But it's good to know about the crate. I honestly didn't think that was necessary.

[@morgnet]

Ok you convinced me I just put to trash my old zortrax m200 and going to the new adventure with k1 !!

[@Upasana-Chanchala44766]

honestly, I think the free membership is easy and good enough to use.

[@francescoorlando221]

Wich slicer do you use?

[@3dpprofessor]

Creality Print. Works great.

[@JonathanBydendyk]

Half price half the support 😂

[@DkKnightX]

Half the price and zero support….

[@Cpgeekorg]

I bought a k1 max over black friday and the design is REALLY close to that of the k1. I've been having lots of first layer problems with mine. I'll do a mesh each time but I still end up with a first layer that's either too high, too low, or both and I've been finding it really annoying. once it's beyond the first layer, it seems to do great in a variety of circumstances but i've never been able to get a good first layer out of it. - also, I'll note that abs overhangs and bridges have been absolute garbage with this weather using the stock profiles or manually setting the part fan to 100% in orcaslicer (my slicer of choice). I even tried turning on the side fan while running some bridging/overhang prints and saw little in the way of improvement. I was trying to print the cartridge for a nevermore micro v6 which is intended to print without supports as oriented in the model (which includes a thick mesh at the top of the model) and I just couldn't get the k1 to do the job. meanwhile, my bambulab p1s did it perfectly in one shot with no tuning at all with a default abs profile and "voron" walls/tops/bottoms/line width/infill settings (which i'd set on the k1 max as well). I really want to love this printer, and it HAS turned out some pretty nice art sculpture prints that i've done and some other parts, but between the first layer issues and the overhang/bridging issues, I'd have difficulty to recommend it. note: the p1s +ams has it's own sets of issues that keep me from recommending it to everyone... the camera on it is absolute trash (grainy 720p at .5fps (yes, that's one frame every other second... in 2023!), it's pretty loud (both in motor noise as well as fan noise as well as ams motor/gear operating noise), the screen is crap too (But I don't use the screen for much really, i prefer printing right from the slicer so i don't really care about the screen - in fact imo they could have saved the money and omitted the screen on the k1 max and i'd have been happier). also both the k1 max and p1s use glass front doors and glass top panels that are tinted... I wish they had used clear plexi because it would have been both more durable, and allow more light into the printer to let the camera work better and it would be less heavy to ship, and you'd be able to more easily point a camera into it (particularly in the case of the p1s and the abysmal camera). at this rate, I'm going to have to find a completely separate wireless camera setup and figure out how to get it into the very small space of the printer and hope it deals with the chamber temps ok. also on the p1s, why doesn't it come with a purge bucket!? it just poops out filament waste from the back of the unit onto your table/desk/floor, no cares given. one of my first print was a purge waste bucket...

[@3dpprofessor]

Printing in ABS is a challenge in the best of circumstances. I only ever had a good time with ABS when we were all printing at 10 mm/s before rudimentary acceleration was added.

[@Cpgeekorg]

@@3dpprofessorI printed all of the functional printed components for my Voron V2.4r2 on an ender 3 (lightly modified with an all metal heatbrake and a bltouch probe) with a cardboard box on top of it at around 80-100mm/sec and most of the parts came out really nice. I am still confident that i'll get my k1 max issues sorted with some configuration changes, and maybe an aftermarket thicker flatter bed. I just think that this new wave of corexy printers from creality, bambulab, and others were designed to be turnkey and reasonably foolproof, but there are some design decisions such as the thin bed, the belt-linked z leadscrews on the k1 max and the poor camera and loud motors on the p1s that hold them back and as an enthusiast, it's important to give feedbck on these things so we can force companies to do better with the next revision / generation to drive the community forward.

[@MisterkeTube]

I cannot comment on the K1 or K1 max, but I feel you're complaints about the P1S are just you being overly spoiled probably. I find the camera on the P1S perfectly adequate. Not for video, but for what I need to do with it - checking in on the print - it is more than good enough and I love how it performs even in the low light conditions. And the noise surprised me. Everyone is complaining about how noisy it is, but compared to my modded TwoTrees Sapphire Plus, it's actually more enjoyable. So I am very happy with my P1S so far. Not a single failed print. I've never before printed PETG this good, this easily and this fast ... And the poop just shows Bambu has thought about what is needed, whereas other printers may probe with the nozzle but are missing the crucial things to ensure a clean nozzle. That's my main complaint about the K1 series: no nozzle wiper and poop solution and no filament cutter. The first will increase the risk of inaccurate bed meshes and the second makes an AMS-like solution more difficult.

[@Cpgeekorg]

@@MisterkeTubeI haven't seen a non-bambulab printer with a filament cutter, but this can be reasonably implemented with a new toolhead module for honestly not that much money as an upgrade option later down the road. it's simply not needed if you aren't doing multimaterial. as far as the poop situation, this could be implemented with a purge bucket (I set one up on my v2), or you could purge to a purge block, or to the printed object itself (I always enable purge to infill to reduce plastic waste). depending on the size of the object, you might not even need a purge block if you purge to infill. as far as nozzle wiping, the k1 max overcomes this (at least when doing leveling and printing) by doing a prime/purge/pre-print bed wipe at the very back of the bed. this certainly helps with the z leveling and bed meshing processes. on my v2 I accomplish this with a scrub brush that's part of my purgebucket setup. there's a few ways to do similar workflows. bambu's is relatively elegant, but it also adds lots of maintenence as well (you need to replace the cutter every 4-5kg of filament, and the nozzle wiper gets replaced at a similar rate. whereas the k1's solution, there's nothing to replace, you just scrape off the purged filament from the build plate with a scraper when it gets dirty where it purges and keep printing, or in the case of my v2, replace the brass brush when it degrades (i'm still on my first brush and i've done thousands of prints over a year... it doesn't look super pretty, but it still does a great job at cleaning off my nozzle.), and not unlike the bambu, i just detach my purge bucket and empty it into the trash). the camera is just frustrating because it's the most expensive printer per volume that I own, and you have to consiously choose to buy slow arm cpus and/or cheap cameras these days. in order to fix the problem, I spent $50 on a raspberry pi zero 2 w and a pi camera module 3 (which should be here later this week), and I found someone modeled a nice enclosure for the camera module for the p1s/p1p. if I spent $50 on retail off-the-shelf parts, imagine what the BOM would cost a company like bambulabs (significantly less, probably close to $20) - and if you subtracted the cost of the substandard parts they chose to use and replaced them with the modules found on the pis, you'd be looking at what? $15 more expense in the bom. even at a 20% markup which is pretty standard in retail, that's only $18 more per unit which is a drop in the bucket for their asking price. I wouldn't mind spending $18 more for a camera module that doesn't suck and a computer that was just slightly overkill for the application... and I think most other folks would too.

[@MisterkeTube]

@@Cpgeekorg The Bambu also wipes the nozzle on the back of the buildplate while cooling it back down to 140C. The poop before that phase is needed to clear plastic that has already been heated and cooled again inside the nozzle and hence degraded, before you start the rest of the process. The filament cutter isn't just for multi-material use. It can also help avoid clogs when simply unloading filament. Anyhow, if you prefer non-Bambu, good for you. I also was not convinced until I bought a P1S for Black Friday and if I had the cash to burn and the room to put it, I would probably also get a K1 Max, but I do believe Bambu has put more thought into the product than Creality. But most of all, I've never considered Creality a reliable company for supporting their products. I hope that they proof me wrong, but at this time I think a Bambu is ideal for printing, whereas a K1 probably is better for the tinkerer. I have my Sapphire.Plus for the latter, until I do get a K1 Max.

[@petermarkk1408]

Why are you so good…….because Creality payed very good for this „review“!

[@3dpprofessor]

I wish. I should charge for my reviews. Then folks like you could be right once in a while.

[@Esha-Mangla3181]

The price! cant believe it!

[@keithdriggers9578]

No color filament changer??/ I'd rather have the Bambu with the AMS.

[@3dpprofessor]

Well, that's definitely something this machine can't do.

[@VanguardSys]

u are a good teacher - u have the voice, tone and cadence down - very good !!!! i hope u have pants on below the shirt - Mr Wonderful from shark tank never does always in shorts

[@3dpprofessor]

Too cold in the maker shed for pantsless videos this time of year.

[@VanguardSys]

@@3dpprofessorfunny! keep up excellent work

[@secretagb]

Maybe I'm of the minority, but I absolutely will not buy a printer that uses a cloud slicer. I don't want to be SOL because CloudFlare or my local net or whatever is out. Or if the company just up and decides they no longer want to offer access for free...etc etc etc. No thank you!

[@3dpprofessor]

The cloud slicer is only on the phone, though. On your computer it still slices locally.

[@secretagb]

Ah ok, I guess I misunderstood that part. Thanks for the clarification! @@3dpprofessor

[@Steve_Smith65]

Does everyone get it in a crate? I heard only KZbin influencers got printers in a crate, we basic users get it just in a box.. and they way transport companies handle these things, its a worry that it wont turn up broken. I also have seen feedback that the Creality Cloud is Hot garbage, full of ads..

[@3dpprofessor]

Apparently it's only an influencer thing. But they didn't tell me that.

[@jmelwak3]

No more creality for me....

[@3dpprofessor]

Fair.

[@DkKnightX]

Good because I wasted more time fixing the fucking thing than I spent printing anything with it.

[@madmaxh3]

WHAT A BUNCH OF B.S. !!! 1. They ONLY ship in crate to reviewers 2. Creality's slicer is NOT full featured. I can not continue watching this video, it's just a bunch of $%&**.

[@3dpprofessor]

How would I know what other's don't get? I can only share my experience. Would you rather I not? And, I assume you're talking about the online slicer. What doesn't it do that you want to do? And how often do you need to use that feature?

[@aarrodri]

Dunno man. Dont trust creality, thei customer service is horrible and rrliability is hit and miss.. i eouls not recommend it for a makerspace. Bambulab 100%.

[@3dpprofessor]

The problem with Bambu in makerspaces is if it gets trashed, they're a little more expensive to replace.

[@allwoundup3574]

oh man are we doing clickbait thumbnails now?

[@3dpprofessor]

Only when it's funny.

[@B3D]

sad i hate it

[@aeaeaeaeoaeaeaeaeae]

I thought it was pretty silly and funny lol

[@hauntycz5191]

Whats clickbait about ?