I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START! 😳

[@AS19283]

I reckon that the owner did all or most of that. He’s so keen that he has a list of circuits etc. and made up that board outside. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@matthewking8468]

“It’s failed I’m afraid. Full new install required. No sorry I’m too busy. Thanks, bye”

[@schmuuth_dot_com3202]

Yeah well, that's not an EICR - although it is what many NICEIC and NAPIT yokes do. Feel free not to accept a job - if you accept a job do a freaking EICR as per the guidance. Jeez

[@TooMuchInfoSir]

This client reminds me of me, definitely works in I.T (infrastructure) OLED, Synology, Ubiquity 👌 - Shame the electrics are bad, but your in there now so right direction haha

[@JBE]

Lee and Luke, you guys deserve a medal for this one! What a job doing an EICR on all that nonsense 👏 👌🏻

[@tobysherring1369]

re metal box in loft - simple to replace with a CU relocation kit with DIN rail. Often they are put in plastic boxes - so a metal one would be an improvement. Grommets are fine if you can't get a finger in, and through crimps if done properly are perfectly acceptable. If you don't know where to start: switchfuse and sort tails, FCU for tumble dryer, screw kitchen switch board to wall, inspect and test the outdoor kitchen circuit, rewire bell transformer, sort loft and garage jumble of cables. You know you're replacing the DBs.

[@NickChristy]

Couldn’t Of said it better

[@ConanRider]

You could probably pay for a rewire just by scrapping all that copper

[@funkpop-l8o]

Math isn't mathing 😂 it may get you like 25-50 percent not counting in labour (sadly)

[@dannycrooks8462]

I seen a job a while ago that was done by a so called professional company it was disgraceful worse than an amateur job you can't blame it all on DIY jobs

[@AndyHobson]

It's the easiest thing to go "looks like a DIY job" yet they've even had on their channel amazing DIY jobs so it's a bit harsh. There's absolutely loads of crap trades in all trades out there. They're there for money not passion. Fortunately these guys are top notch so doesn't matter who did it, they do a great job 👍🏼

[@therealdojj]

starting at the beginning normally helps lol

[@Tryingtimes007]

Why is it always a failed (DIY) project? you might have all the qualifications required it doesn’t mean you’ll be any good, conscientiousness is what’s needed 👍

[@carlmarquardt994]

TOTALLY AGREE

[@yrification]

I've seen bad work by so called electricians and then bad DIY electrical work. you can tell when its DIY. another give away is if the home owner gives you details in drips and drabs, its a massive red flag. DIY work shouldn't be allowed outside of restricted minor works.

[@Alan.Moffat]

That might have been a DIY project...... but explain the rest of that garbage 🤣 it was defo one of yous sparks 🤣😂

[@AndyHobson]

Yeah agree with this, it's usually a crap spark in my experience

[@yrification]

@@Alan.Moffat people cheap out on electrical work but pay a plumber £1000 labour fit a boiler 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ianbird6997]

I am not an electrician and even that stinks of DIY to me 😂 glad they have the A Team on the job 👍👍👍👍

[@makg4655]

Day 2 and 2 men . Wow must be charging a fortune for an EICR. Lucky to get £200 these days esp with all the IN THE VAN TESTERS these days .

[@grahamnicholson1553]

Would love to see a summary of the full report and the C1 rated items. There was a lot and it was overall messy/confusing but only thing I saw very bad were the long tails without fused protection. Maybe the extension box was missing some grommets and in a plastic box but through crimp weren't awful. This is definitely not the worst EICR we have seen on the channel but it is exacerbated by a big board and number of circuits.

[@chriscollins1704]

Mouse scarer? Some people are insane 😄

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[@connect4king]

rewire or walk😬

[@carlmarquardt994]

Pretty much

[@goober-ll1wx]

Ho Lee Ferk some people live in ticking timebombs...

[@Wintersky136]

I tell you what I would do: Install a proper large distribution board and rewire the cables in there… those „play time“ consumer boards need to go

[@adamsmithelec]

Size of those kitchen cabinet handles!

[@Mark-xr4zt]

Definately separate the two circuits onto their own breakers. It is one were it is hard to justify any other approach yo be honest. If for any reason they couldn’t be then you should design for the 0.4 disconnection time for both points of utilisation.

[@peterc3228]

You could put the lights on a fused spur, drop it down to a 3amp fuse. If they don't want to replace the cables

[@Mark-xr4zt]

@@peterc3228 I probably would shy away from that as there were MCBs installed downstream for the outdoor lighting controls in the IP wall-mounted box, so selectivity would be a possible issue. However, from the limited info, we get on KZbin videos either might be a better solution 😀

[@peterc3228]

Definitely agree separating the two circuits would be the best option. Sorry didn't give any detail where to fit the fused spur. I was thinking to replace the mcbs in the ip box with a fused spur /spurs, and dropped down to a 3amp fuse at that point. Or some manufacturers do a 3amp mcb, if compatible you could swap them out. Even then before touching anything, you would still have the fun job of tracing the whole run of cable back to the board looking for joint boxes where the csa of the cables might change affecting the upstream protection. All the best, Pete 👍 😊

[@johnwinters4201]

The light fitting just dangling from a bit of wire is standard installation in France.

[@countesscable]

This is true! I regularly stay in France and just about everything electrical is loose, wobbly or dangling.

[@JensenPGATourDriven]

Great content guys & Definitely Awful electric , you can’t believe what you come across, & Yes it would be a good job for Ruben on the junction box to Make safe!! Don’t understand How Someone has done this as electrician, Your work should be A1 and most of all safe !! Well done Luke going that extra mile on the plug behind the TV. Cool !! ⚡️👊

[@bells1969]

Great vid lads what volt stick are you using the green and red led one 👍

[@arishem555]

the first thing which every construction team should do whenever they arrived: scream "who the heck did all that mess whooooooa" :-D

[@rouman7]

Jeez what a mess the time you spend , fixing all that , I’ll recommend a rewire .. defo a handyman’s work …

[@nailgunnercolbeck]

But it works! 🤔 YES IT WORKS! UNTIL IT DOESN'T!! and the consequences are irreversible! Don't people understand that the regulations change all the time and are there to keep people safe! You guys deserve a medal. Keep up the awesome work 💪💫

[@tobysherring1369]

re 20A radial to garage: 1. no need for board in shed - FCU with 5A fuse for lighting, 20A DP switch to isolate sockets. 2. Outdoor lighting FCU 5A in outdoor box (or put in garage when you split the 20A circuit). 3. Split circuit in garage as now with new terminations and either a 2-circuit CU (OTT in my opinion) or just a FCU for outdoor lighting (metalclad would give you a good box to run armoured from).

[@jasonbowe9767]

These are absolutely nightmare jobs for professional electricians, I feel like crying just watching this 😫

[@cbcdesign001]

Why would you cry? Its not your house and potentially its work, nothing to cry about.

[@jasonbowe9767]

@@cbcdesign001 I just wanna 😏

[@KizakiAyato]

You are way over reacting

[@Shanky_TH9540]

ridiculous over reaction lol

[@mitch32]

I would be quoting a rewire. I don't think it would take that much longer than trying to fix everything. Also I wouldn't want my name evolved with that mess despite how many photos I took prior. Good luck boys

[@wizard3z868]

That place reminds me of a lot of old 1920's wiring systems of the knob & tube era I've seen in new England USA right down to old service panel as a mess of a j box lol

[@richarddavis4378]

Looks like my loft, I think the previous owner was technically very clever, but very sloppy with his wiring. We have boxes with electronics controlling 12v lights, and sensors everywhere. It's a headache working it all out. I'm not a sparky, but have a good understanding of normal domestic electrics.

[@Kalus_Saxon]

Why you shouldn’t let your cousin Bazjinder from deli wire up your house… 😂

[@Damientrades]

To.many ads bro had to give up watching 👎👎 to money hungry Jordan

[@pgood7266]

Do electricans in the UK ever get shocked? Seems like you guys don’t really work on anything live from what I’ve seen

[@nk60001]

Did this customer end up getting all the extra work done after the inspection?

[@diegovd7215]

I could feel your pain! Bon courage ! :)

[@rayg6224]

You guys do a great job. I'm in Virginia and wondering when and why an EICR is needed? Have a great day!

[@TheOmegaRiddler]

They have a video explaining why they need to do EICRs if you want to look on their channel.

[@AS19283]

I’m uk based but worked in Oregon. To my knowledge the US doesn’t do any routine testing whatsoever. More physical inspections and building permits etc.

[@davidmell1789]

If a property is rented out, it is required to have an up-to-date EICR by law. In addition, when a property is sold and a mortgage is being used to fund the purchase, the mortgage company's surveyor/valuer will often recommend an EICR is undertaken.

[@rayg6224]

@@davidmell1789 thank you. We have a home inspection at time of sale, but they aren't that extensive.

[@joanofarc708]

No wonder the previous electrician didn't come back ffs

[@Alan.Moffat]

That mess appeals to my ocd..... I'd love to get stuck in about that!!!

[@calvinford3498]

rewire throughout for me wouldn't trust any of the eclectic's there even though its beet tasted

[@charlfourie8184]

Did you fix everything? And wheres the video on that end result?

[@samuelseviour8944]

I'm sorry, I could not watch it all as my eyes and brain were melting

[@HATCHETHAS]

Lots of DIY stuff there but those 2 fuseboards and extended bodge in the loft smells of a dodgy spark.

[@mistymick4905]

Mate, You had me squirming all the way through. You both have the patience of a saints. That loft is something else. That won’t be a quick fix.

[@michaelsglas]

Well said Ruben. College or University really don’t teach you what you do when you’re in the field. I’ve experienced that myself. Electrical should have a balance to how it’s being thought. Too much theory and not enough practical

[@Dazzy84]

At last!! Someone who actually speaks sense. Teacher might tell you how to wire a plug etc, but are they actually making you wire one??

[@joanofarc708]

It takes more 3 months to become competent electrician it takes 4 years

[@peter6411]

If I brought that house I'd have you guys in to fully re-wire the whole lot, I'm no electrician guys, but to me it's a fire waiting to happen... Love the videos you all take care. Peter

[@wolvolad25]

I think walkie talkie’s would be a good idea

[@tpottrell]

Wont a double board get clouted by the door?

[@nigellewis804]

The cost of qualified electrician Is prohibitiv to most people diy will never stop

[@nigellewis804]

All the people we see them work with are high end client s When most people struggle to put food on table re wiring is last thing on there mines so are electric cars

[@lewis94uk]

Most houses if built/rewired(properly) from the 70s are fine cabling wise just will need a board change most people can afford that if people want 20 downlights in their kitchen they should either do without or pay somebody to do it properly.

[@robertburrows6612]

Unless they agree to a full rewire it's a job I would walk away from it , leaving a letter that the full installation is dangerous and should not be used to cover my arse

[@SpNick3]

I’m not electrician enough to do this job, I’ll for sure run away from this job.

[@RetiredandLivingthedream]

I had my own Electrical business when I lived in the U.K. Living in Thailand now the standard of Electrical work is way way lower than the U.K. Standards. Well done I still love watching these Electrical videos.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks

[@OldLordSpeedy]

Hmm ... yeah Thailand was never an U.K. colony, but Hongkong, Australia, Philippines, some small island. But only U.K. mainland have so a high standard where no power accidents happend since power lines are born. The standard in the Kingdom of Thailand isn't high but okay. Most foreigners customers want have standard German wall sockets expect the U.K. customer - only U.K. wall sockets. The standard thai wall socket is designed for max. 10 Ampere only. Same the standard CU. But do you can import European technology without problems - Krung Thep city is an international trade cross. Funny are the build-in sockets and lamps, but they put cable direct on the wall. Outside meter normally but I let build a small higher house for them. Good if have flash flood or monsoon here.

[@owenbailey5497]

Hi mate can we borrow Ruben next week

[@Jay369]

I can C2 that this job is 🤢🤮

[@alsanova]

This give me a headache. 🤯 What a hot mess! I hope it not just CU change but tidying up all the hot messes, that including loose cables in the loft.

[@iantaylor6858]

Go to India!

[@kkaiW]

hey what g shock are you wearing ? I’m wanting a new gshock and wanna know if it’s good or not. Great video too

[@AndrewLumsden]

That's a can of worms being fed with a tin of spaghetti!! 😂

[@hjkglpojh1863]

13:08 There is NYM cable going out the bottom of the box which is not rated for being in the Dirt not even if it is in Conduit.

[@lightecelectricsltd5659]

take it easy guys it will be fixed by professionals in the end, it becomes a beautiful memory

[@stevelawrence7111]

And that's the stuff you can see

[@djquick]

Wow… wiring is done much differently there vs here in the US.

[@nathanjp96]

Wow! Rewire? 👍

[@bobturner3645]

What is the model type of the voltage stick being used in this video?

[@ConstantijnKool]

I want to know that too!

[@Mark-xr4zt]

They used two. The yellow one was a Fluke and the grey one Lee was using is made by Megger.

[@daron8982]

Kewtech

[@inspiringengineer]

Wish my work was that good! ;)

[@GrenPara]

Great Video Thanks for making it. I have a question. When you do testing what is the cable reel you use sometimes? And where can it be purchased?

[@daron8982]

its called R1+R2 lead or wandering lead and its used to test bonding cables. they come in 10, 25, 50 metres length. can be purchased from screwfix, toolstation, etc. at screwfix they have kewtech

[@danielelise7348]

It's a complete sh!tstorm all round,rip it ALL out.

[@stenningelectrical1205]

Scerwfix sparky been there !!😂😂😂

[@GaryB1980]

First video I’ve had anxiety watching 😂.

[@DanAuty]

7:47 - CAN ANYONE ELSE HERE LEE DO A MASSIVE FART 🤣🤣

[@philldaly2510]

snakes wedding mate

[@TheLastSock]

I dont normally do advertising but bizarrely your advert for these stickers was exactly what i have been looking for excellent. I just need to sort out an issue at home now, Heres a question for you, two 30A MCB's (both radial) one is for the cooker & hob, the other is Washing M/C and Dish washer. Both work ok independently, but if I have both on, the RCD trips instantly , any ideas? the RCD doesnt trip if they are on one at a time, when all the other MCB's are off the two being switched on still trip the RCD.

[@corymac]

That’s most likely a borrowed or mixed up neutral. Are both the MCB’s on the same RCD?

[@artisanelectrics]

Glad it helped!

[@Doyley-is9qq]

A lot of modern appliances have quite bad earth leakage due to the electronics inside nowadays. That might not be the case but I feel like if it were a nicked cable such as a screw into a line or neutral cables’ insulation, the RCD would be tripping immediately as soon as you turn on that particular circuit. I also wouldn’t expect it to be a borrowed neutral because that is very rare on anything other than a lighting circuit which was wired before RCDs were being used. The best option to rectify would be to replace the MCBs for RCBOs

[@carguillo1]

NO THATS IS A TYPICAL ELECTRICIAN WORK

[@lewisross4044]

Genuine question. Apart from the fact that you can't disconnect or isolate the appliance easily, why would the tumble drier need to be fused down if that's all that's on the end of the cable? You've got a fixed load with a cable that's designed to take that amperage. Surely if the PFC is high enough it should be fine?

[@david29262]

Because if it fails it will draw more and potentially cause the cable to heat up and catch fire

[@lewisross4044]

Not sure I agree but okay.

[@Gazzerdaman]

It's not though, the cable feeding the appliance is rated for 13amp. If you got a dead short or other fault in the tumble dryer the flex could be subjected to much more than it's rated capacity. It would then melt and potentially start a fire. Plug top fuses are designed to protect the appliance flex.

[@mcneillmoss]

top work

[@LJ_DESIGNS]

Looking for an apprentice?

[@tiarnanclifford8857]

does anybody know the name of the Voltage Tester Pen that Lee was using with the flashlight on it? really want one now

[@daron8982]

Kewtech but any voltstick will do

[@scotty2hottyltd]

Think it’s actually a Meggar. Most of their test kit is Meggar

[@RichardArblaster]

Great video guys 😎

[@altubury]

Serious question now guys, how do you justify a “day two” on an EICR? Dont get me wrong, its lovely work if you can get that, but to be competitive, who agress to pay two days wages for two guys just for an EICR? I love the videos, perhaps you can give us the secret of how to get customers to pay so much for what is essentially a 100% failed installation? :-)

[@samgriffiths7609]

They’re obviously careful in their pricing. Probably went to have a look first and saw that it wasn’t going to be a quick job. With jobs like these you’ve got to think of the eicr as more of a business opportunity rather than just an legality. Clearly going to be a lot of remedials and if you can be seen giving them a detailed (yet comprehensive) report of the remedials required, chances are the customer will go with you to rectify things.

[@altubury]

@@samgriffiths7609 Thanks for the helpful reply 👍🏼

[@schmuuth_dot_com3202]

You might typically price per circuit and DB - and there are cr*p-tonne of those here! Also on an initial quote/visual inspection there is plenty to suggest it's going to be a challenge. I imagine also there is some 'content-value' baked in here - it was after all very entertaining! You also can't just 'fail' the installation and say 'job-done'. As a landlord, I've had an EICR where a supposedly reputed electrician wrote me an 'EICR' on the back of an envelope and said 'I don't bother to write out the full report if stuff needs doing, I'll do it once I've fixed it'. Needless to say he didn't get paid for his day's work but NICEIC wasn't interested - said since he hadn't been paid, nothing to take up. Yet wasted my time, I then needed a new electrician to re-do his mess and lost a month's rent as a result. It's people and trade bodies like that that encourage people like me to do a DIY job and do it properly.

[@j22_wys51]

Fuck. That. 🤣

[@matthewlizzio7431]

What a mess 😅

[@raymyhill2]

Walk away.

[@christ9460]

start over

[@bradh2066]

Rewire

[@iansampson2477]

That can't possibly have been wired by an electrician. If it was he needs to hand his licence back.

[@AndrewLumsden]

Why bother to differentiate any codes for the EICR just condemn it in its entirety!

[@barrypritchard2306]

If that was I take all of it out and replace the DB box

[@zach1106]

Rip it all out and start again. Ban the diy owner from ever buying a cable tie, junction box, cable… The list could go on. You wouldn’t see someone messing around with there boiler, why do they think it’s appropriate to mess around with electrics.

[@inspiringengineer]

Encourage the owner to install a new gas supply ;) :D

[@e.n.l1976]

Sadly (as a gas engineer) we do see people messing around with their boilers way more than you would think.

[@KizakiAyato]

Just because you suck at wiring electrics does not mean other people do.

[@BarneySaysHi]

I've never understood countries where the house wiring isn't put in pipes. When I was in school I learned that every circuit needs to go into a pvc pipe (I'm from The Netherlands). The only time you'd see a cable is when it's a 4 or a 5 core VMVK (old type of cable nowadays) is going around a corner. And even that would be put in a pipe when going straight. Seeing the absolute mess on the attic just boggles my mind.

[@carlrobson5745]

Challenge accepted

[@bikerchrisukk]

I know a lot of it was terrible/dangerous, but man you made me laugh not relating to it 😂 Cheers!

[@davidcullen2130]

Wow that is so shocking that's one of the worst houses that I ever seen so far the customer is so lucky that they didn't even have an electrical fire. It's like spaghetti junction. Unless they are going for a full house rewire I would refuse to put my name on network. The whole thing needs ripping out and starting again

[@KizakiAyato]

Messy wiring does not automatically mean it's going to catch on fire. If everything is sized properly, and crimped properly, it's highly unlikely. At least they didn't have anything piled on top of those wires in the attic. That would have been bad.

[@aaronmdjones]

This has to be way up there with some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. Jesus.

[@timkelliher6855]

Owner done work himself

[@terrystephens1102]

Unbelievable mess, how there hasn’t been a fire or electrocution is amazing. Pretty much a case of rip it out and start again 🤯🤬

[@tobysherring1369]

A mess yes, but tidy up jumbled cables, new CU, switchfuse and rewire tails, FCU for tumble dryer, and relocation kit to replace loft box and it's sorted. Readings were good - not a full rewire.

[@andrewpowell6457]

I'm no electrician & I was cringing at this

[@chriscollins1704]

Mouse scarer? Some people are insane 😄

[@NewAge0fAquarius]

im just going to nip to the van

[@oninbridders]

You keep getting these DIY jobs that then want to get the professionals in. I don't understand, unless it's age, why someone would want to change and apply professionalism to their bird's-nest.

[@badrobert71]

House of horrors.