I Don't Like Disventure Camp All-Stars Ally... (All-Stars Ally Thoughts/Review)

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Smartylion 1223

Smartylion 1223

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@smartylion1223
@smartylion1223 6 ай бұрын
Thx for watching. This is my opinion on Ally so far. If you like her that is absolutely fine. Just wanted to talk about this character definitely with all the discussion about her recently. I do want to say. I don't think Ally voting for Aiden and betraying the heros was a dumb decision. I get why she did it. However her getting mad or shocked that Aiden likes Jake more makes no sense. Also just going to say it one more time. Jake and Ally have both done messed up things. Jake isn't innocent and was mean to Ally most of the season. And I do think some people are a little to harsh on her at times. I still not the biggest fan of her character but can see why others like her.
@PintheDog
@PintheDog 6 ай бұрын
I do like her and condemn you for this video. You and every other Jake fan are just alike, condemning her for one thing, when ninety percent of the other characters have done so much worse.😡😡😡😡
@smartylion1223
@smartylion1223 6 ай бұрын
I am definitely not a Jake fan and they both have done messed up things. Also never said Ally has done the most messed up things. Characters like Yul, Riya, and Alec exist. If you like her that is absolutely fine but I am just not the biggest fan of her this season.
@awesomeaustenkitty
@awesomeaustenkitty 6 ай бұрын
@@PintheDogCope
@PintheDog
@PintheDog 6 ай бұрын
@@smartylion1223 And I don't care.
@PintheDog
@PintheDog 6 ай бұрын
@@awesomeaustenkitty I am. By snapping on the video poster. Didn't you notice?
@smoothturtles9164
@smoothturtles9164 6 ай бұрын
I think Ally is just a character whose arc started a bit too late. I don’t hate her but I wish her arc was set up earlier in all stars.
@smartylion1223
@smartylion1223 6 ай бұрын
I agree. Episode 14 or 15 is too late in my opinion.
@KUwUpa
@KUwUpa 6 ай бұрын
It shoulda been set up right after Hunter got voted out, written like she clearly showed she has issues when things don't go her way and is unwilling to listen and change for the better. I have come to terms with Ally being a villain, but this does defo feel too little too late.
@SigmaRat
@SigmaRat 6 ай бұрын
​@@smartylion1223 I feel this way for Ally and Grett
@max_fromthevault
@max_fromthevault 6 ай бұрын
@@KUwUpayess
@TonyFlopped
@TonyFlopped 6 ай бұрын
Atleast she had something to do, unlike aiden all of his actions were pretty pointless
@johncena88844
@johncena88844 6 ай бұрын
Ally wants her cake and to eat it too; Be a likable person but also put herself above everyone else. It's her constant switching sides from hero to villain that makes her annoying. Its ok to make decisions that are good for your game, but it gets annoying when you expect sympathy for it.
@PintheDog
@PintheDog 6 ай бұрын
I missed where she expected sympathy. She certainly didn't in the last episode.
@AzureStriker-om2jl
@AzureStriker-om2jl 6 ай бұрын
I'm going to rip the bandaid off. I'm not a big Ally fan, she can be okay at times although she is now becoming a bit annoying. I do think Ally is way too obsessed and insecure about how people react to her as a streamer she naively believes everyone is going to like her, that's not true there's always going to be people who will dislike her and there's nothing she can do about it. There's also the fact she got upset over the fact Aiden preferred Jake over her when she barely interacted with Aiden even during the merge. While Jake is in the wrong for antagonizing her throughout the premerge by antagonizing her with Ashley sharing a small part of the blame by making Ally apologize to Jake after his half-assed apology, Jake is also in the wrong by bringing up Hunter in their conversations which is taking their feud way too far. Not to mention the fact she left Jake to be possibly mauled to death by a bear, her villain arc honestly started way too late in the game while it's smart she turned on the heroes because she saw flipping on the Heroes' alliance to vote out Aiden as a way of getting payback on Jake hence her calm reaction when confronted about her betrayal. I don't condone her behavior at all in episode 14, . Apologies for the long post, I just wanted to give my two cents on the whole Ally thing.
@lovewriothesley
@lovewriothesley 6 ай бұрын
​@@PintheDog i believe episode 15 is all about wanting sympathy. She wants sympathy from the heroes (despite betraying them), and especially Aiden, as she wants him to choose her over Jake. All episode 15 Ally is focused on is Jake and how badly he has done her, when she left him to die and get hurt.
@PintheDog
@PintheDog 6 ай бұрын
@lovewriothesley I don't think that she wanted sympathy so much as acknowledgment. In an alliance, you have to make everybody feel welcome and like they are part of the alliance. Aiden, Connor, and especially Jake did a poor job in making Ally feel like she belonged with them. Despite what several crybabies are saying, Aiden's question in the challenge was not the sole reason that she flipped. It was just the final straw for her.
@mlkywine6852
@mlkywine6852 6 ай бұрын
@@PintheDogYeah, but we also should consider that Ally herself wanted to be liked, but she never put in the effort to befriend Tom, Aiden, or Connor. There wasn’t any official alliance until Aiden and Jake were cool with each other and when Jake was the one to comfort Connor. Ally put herself in that position because she didn’t prioritize her social game after Ashley was eliminated.
@bfs83
@bfs83 6 ай бұрын
Ally: why am I on the villains side? Jake: because you almost fed me to a bear and became the new Riya Crystal: yeah what he said
@pandora2307
@pandora2307 6 ай бұрын
Funny how everyones ignoring how Aiden almost k*lled Karol and Oliver in ep 9 or when James po*soned Yul and nobody cared. But when Ally did it OH MY GOD shes the worst. The hypocrisy
@Barbex2.0
@Barbex2.0 6 ай бұрын
​@@pandora2307yes but Aiden just wanna use the spider to distract them NOT FOR KILLING THEM 💀
@pandora2307
@pandora2307 6 ай бұрын
@@Barbex2.0 Yes because distracting someone blindfolded will only distract you and for sure not lead up to seriosuly hurting yourself. Aiden way of thinking is as stupid as Ally writing in ep 14.
@supersonicheroes
@supersonicheroes 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, calling Ally the new Riya is actually pretty accurate.
@dex-6712
@dex-6712 6 ай бұрын
Tdas reference right
@Virg0z
@Virg0z 6 ай бұрын
Never was a big fan of Ally in All Stars. People just started to dislike her recently, but I never liked her since the beginning. I feel like Hunter was more overhated when it came about their stupid arguments. And I think he was just trying to help his girlfriend understand that she needs to get over the opinions online and stop being a people pleaser. And I felt like most of the arguments with them were just petty and trivial. Like for example: 'Be mad at Hunter because he forgot about a video game Ally explained on the plane, and so Ally decides to shun him because of it. (Like, really Ally... It's not that serious)' I understand her hatred on Jake because he was a jerk towards her before merge when he had no reason to be. And I can see why she decided to double-cross the heroes this episode because she was obviously the least liked out of the four, so she'd most likely be voted as soon as all the villains were. But I think she's stupid for trusting Riya. Like Did Ally not watch her season because Riya was manipulative in S2
@Somethingsomeonecoolwow
@Somethingsomeonecoolwow 6 ай бұрын
I am not a major Ally fan, I think she is an alright character, and I can even relate to her to some extent. Now, I feel like the hate for Ally is actually a bit too harsh. When Jake treats her like shit the entirety of the season, nobody says anything, but when Ally does something wrong once, everyone is ready to raise their pitchforks. Now that I think about it, Ally has been treated like shit by literally everyone except Tess. Jake randomly started hating on her because of his own drama, Ashley dismisses everything Jake does and even asks HER to apologize, Hunter dismissed her struggles and issues, none of the villains genuinely care for her, Gabby and Ally werent exactly very fond of each other since Gabby got Tess out, Tom barely interacted with her, and Aiden literally admitted to preferring Jake over her. I think Ally is simply a victim of terrible writing. The writers could have utilized her character more, and could have given her more interactions with other people, but chose not to, because Jake is more important I guess. Also everyone got mad at Ally for voting out Aiden, and like... why? Why would she vote with people that dont even like her, and will get rid of her as soon as the villains are out? And her current position now is ideal. Her and Grett are the deciding votes while its Jake and Connor vs Riya and Alec. This is my take on her character. I think she is a solid B+ tier character imo.
@Glitchinthetv
@Glitchinthetv 6 ай бұрын
I can agree with what you said. I still prefer Jake over Ally even if she wasn't bad. Also can we all agree that Jake and Ally has the most harsher haters 💀
@daisanity6457
@daisanity6457 6 ай бұрын
No, when Jake was rude to her, the hate was ALSO extra, people definitely said shit about it. Trust me, I've seen the brunt of it, so while I do agree Ally hate is too much, you don't have to minimalize the amount of hate that Jake got while doing so
@Glitchinthetv
@Glitchinthetv 6 ай бұрын
@@daisanity6457 I can see if people hate Jake for other shit but still that's not an excuse to leave a dude to get killed by a legit bear
@__borxmie
@__borxmie 5 ай бұрын
As a fan of Jake, I agree that the way he treated Ally was totally wrong because she didn't do anything to him (anyway, I also don't defend Ally for leaving Jake with a bear). On the other hand, I disagree with what you say about Hunter, I think he tried to be okay with her but she was tough on him (because of her insecurities). And also, for you to say that Jake hasn't been very hated seems ridiculous to me, as a fan I can perfectly say that he has been one of the most hated characters (currently not so much because of his evolution) it's just that it's not so noticeable because, just like he has many haters, he has many fans, unlike Ally, that's why it seems like Ally gets more hate than Jake did at the time but it's not true 😞
@xhunterhuntsx
@xhunterhuntsx 6 ай бұрын
1:41 Actually it started the episode prior, Jake was distracted by Aiden and Tom (Eillie's sabotage) causing him to be run over by a giant rubber ball and losing the challenge for magenta team. Ally, instead of making sure Jake is okay, demeans him for costing them the challenge. Ever since then, Jake has hated her.
@lockskelington314
@lockskelington314 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow I never noticed that until now!
@UnRandomdeInternet-of9pk
@UnRandomdeInternet-of9pk 6 ай бұрын
I don't think the beef started in ep 7 just because previously to that 'argument' Ally told him to focused in the game I Jake instead of win has to lose bc his insecurities. Also, not only Ally demands Jake to has his mind in the game, even Ashley got tired in one of the challenges about Jake losing points in the challenges for the same reason.
@CodySimp
@CodySimp 6 ай бұрын
My biggest problem is it didn't need to take the entire season, this should've been a pre-merge story imo
@Daniel-td5gi
@Daniel-td5gi 6 ай бұрын
The bad thing is Ally didn't choose to pay attention to Tess and Hunter but when Riya someone Who she should know is not trustworthy tells her the same then she does what she says Also Riya fooling the lie detector is the stupidest thing in the whole series not even S1 episode 11 Jake is that stupid or Tom in S3 Episode 5 are that stupid For context Jake was a crybaby in episode 11 and he was so annoying and Tom had some dumb questions regarding Miriam's letter
@ddraven3180
@ddraven3180 6 ай бұрын
I wish Jake had asked a different question involving Hunter. He should have asked if she even still loved him. This girl has literally done nothing but insult him, be mad at him, ignore all his attempts to help her out throughout the season and written a song about all the things she hates about him. She literally has decided to trust and hear the advice of Riya, a piece of garbage that was happy almost killing someone and has pretty much stated multiple times how little she cares for anyone other than herself, over the advice her best friend and her boyfriend gave her. I'm sure the writers would make her say yes and be truthful, but honestly, she hasn't shown it once this season, and the question would have made far more sense than the one asked in the actual episode. Honestly, it's hilarious how people pick between Jake and Ally when they might as well be the same character. Insecure idiots who refuse to change, blame everything and everyone but themselves, fixate to a toxic degree on those they dislike and expect a positive outcome to happen from doing nothing about their problems. The problem is, the Jake I discribed was his basis as he came into the season as well as who he was in his debut season, meaning the writers had ample time to give him his growth. Ally on paper had this basis coming into this season but the writers decided to waste 13 episodes doing nothing with her of substance outside of the initial set up for their beef and thus her sudden turn feels too rapid and forced. Better buildup would do wonders here. Also yes, her choice to side with Grett and eliminate Aiden is strategic, no doubt. She would have been 4th without an immunity win, for sure, but whose fault is that? Like, Ally got herself into that position by choosing to not even bother talking to Connor OR Aiden ever outside of the "who we voting for" meetings. Like, she can't complain that Aiden picks Jake over her when she never once bother to utter a word in his direction. Hell, why did both her and Aiden choose to leave the Connor talk to Jake when they hate him so much and consider him immature and unreliable? Why couldn't she go and form a bond with him to get herself in a better spot? She got herself into that position because, like always, she expects to get everything while doing nothing for it. The worst of it all is that at this point it really does feel like they're gonna shoehorn her into the finale and even probably make her win while trying to do a last minute face turn to her heel turn and "make her win deserved" by her learning the lesson her best friend and boyfriend have been telling her since day one. Which will totally be so worth it, having a nothing character for over half the season win. Then again that is sadly true for like, all 3 of the likely winners....
@lockskelington314
@lockskelington314 6 ай бұрын
Nah, she’s going to go up in flames. And it’s going to be a glorious blaze! I’m hoping that Krystal does a fake out vote where after someone is voted out she travels her true colors just to be told no one is actually leaving and then everyone is out to get her.
@LightningvsLightning
@LightningvsLightning 6 ай бұрын
I think it’s really ironic that her plot line seemed to be about her haters hating her what I can assume for not doing anything in season 2, only for her to really not do anything in All Stars as well.
@ethanv0729
@ethanv0729 6 ай бұрын
Ally got more derailed than Trent 💀
@Murder_drones_fan800
@Murder_drones_fan800 5 ай бұрын
💀💀
@audrexa
@audrexa 6 ай бұрын
i agree. i liked her before but she has honestly become a bit irritable
@hostlight2318
@hostlight2318 6 ай бұрын
Riya 2.0
@tomast7339
@tomast7339 6 ай бұрын
I don't hate Ally, in fact, I really like her, but I do think the writers screwed up with her writing this season she did not do much. The main blame for this is the overfocus on Jake-Tom-Aiden's none-exiting love triangle. Riya becomes Disventure Camp Julia (instead of being the nuanced character she was in season 2). With Jake and Riya's dramas, most of the characters who do not take a huge part in those storyline just sidelines. we can see this with pretty much every female character who was eliminated before Connor's return. they all were sidelines and became the supporting or therapist to others (which is a shame because Lake, Tess and Ashley deseres much more). And Ally is just another victim of this phenomenon the hates storyline felt just there without any something important aside from few references for it here and there. a villain arc would be too late. I mean, we know this girl two seasons. making her villain will be just repeating Ellie and Riya turning to the "dark side" (and yet, with those two it came with nuances. what made them way better characters than what they became in AS) however, I do have hope for Ally. with sticking to Grett more than Riya, Ally can become the neutral character who just do what she needs to get ahead in the game. because to be honest, if Ally was still loyal to the guys, she would end up 4th place. She had to get rid of one. Jake won the challenge and Grett most likely told her that Connor has the immunity idol. which means Aiden is her only choice. but with any scenario Ally will go, it sad it's an outcome of Alec, Jake and Riya taking all the attention to themselves and leave nothing to the others (especially the females)
@Vwowtree
@Vwowtree 6 ай бұрын
I love ally, I think it makes sense for her arc to finally stop caring if people hate her
@pandora2307
@pandora2307 6 ай бұрын
Im just gonna copy a post I agree with (OP agreed so I can use it) Im tired of how much hate this character gets So right off the bat, Ally was never my favorite character, nor even a character I liked, simply because I found her boring. But after rewatching the entire AS up to episode 15, I noticed how poorly she was treated by others (except Tess, I guess). Everything was fine up until episode 8, where Jake, out of nowhere, starts talking down to her and treating her like garbage. Ashley dismisses it and even wants Ally to apologize to Jake for being rightfully upset at him? Okay, what... He keeps on bringing up Hunter and how Ally is a menace towards him, completely dismissing her struggles, which is REALLY ironic coming from Jake. In episode 12, where Connor brings the "heroes" together, out of nowhere AGAIN, Jake yet again expresses how he is not willing to work with Ally, despite her not talking to him at ALL. In episode 13, Ally fades into the background once again, and we head into episode 14. Oh god, this episode. So before I start, yes, Ally was really annoying and frustrating, so I cut Jake some slack here. But once again, he gets personal, and his speech is giving MAJOR Ellie vibes. "I feel sorry for Hunter for having to deal with your bullshit" is giving "Ooh I got cheated on." Both were wrong to say that. Obviously, Ally didn't take it well, and leaving Jake to die was very wrong of her to do, but why is nobody pointing out how terrible that speech was? And finally, episode 15. Ally knows nobody in the heroes' alliance has her back, and she is definitely the f4 boot if she doesn't do anything about it. A lot of people complain about how much of a b\* she is for switching on them. But honestly, she did the right thing. She was never listened to by others, always dismissed, and now treated like a villain. Again, I don't condone her behavior in episode 14, but I'm tired of people antagonizing her, calling her names for one thing she did while being treated like a human punching bag the entire season. That's all. I just know I'm gonna get downvoted. Peace.
@SuperiorChaotic
@SuperiorChaotic 6 ай бұрын
"Floplly"
@Quintys_Archivez
@Quintys_Archivez 6 ай бұрын
​@@SuperiorChaotic and blame venus for that
@Quintys_Archivez
@Quintys_Archivez 6 ай бұрын
I actually agree with this statement, it has alot of valid points, even though I like jake, he had NO right to treat ally that way
@pandora2307
@pandora2307 6 ай бұрын
@@Quintys_Archivez Valid
@smartylion1223
@smartylion1223 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I see your points. I do think it is a little harsh that people have been giving her names. Honestly ever since Nichelle when people don't like a character they will give them nicknames like Flopchelle or Trashley. I also don't hate her for switching sides but her getting mad at Aiden for saying he likes Jake more makes no sense. I fine that she voted Aiden but why are you shocked that Aiden likes Jake more. Also Jake and Ally have both done messed up things (Overall Jake has probably done more). Jake isn't innocent. It is nice to hear others opinions on characters that I am not the biggest fan on.
@stylishquesadila7731
@stylishquesadila7731 6 ай бұрын
Jake and Ally could have had such a good friendship. In the musical episode they're writing together. Jake asks if its weird that he's thinking about Tom as he writes their song, and Ally tells him its not as she's thinking about Hunter. They're both insecure individuals who are dealing with their love interest kinda dismissing them(idk why they dropped that thing about Hunter forgetting what game Ally had told him about and such). Like the parallels were there, and its ok if they bicker a bit, but it needs to be equal-sided, not Jake going all in and then now Ally's the one really digging into him. I will say I am a Jake fan, but I don't like how he's not being forced to have a PROPER conversation with Ally. Also, we all know Jake is gullible, but do the writers really want us to think he's so stupid he'd let Fiore get in his head about Ally replacing him as Ashley's friend???? Ugh, I just. I hate it. The two coulda had such a good friendship arc, but they set up all that stuff just to completely throw it out.
@samuelb-1406
@samuelb-1406 6 ай бұрын
My issue with Ally is her lack of personality, plain and simple. Her only personality in this season is 'insecure' and 'video games'. Her constant video game references are annoying af. If Ally was going to stay this far, she should've exhibit a more well rounded personality.
@Oreo-o5v
@Oreo-o5v 6 ай бұрын
I find it very hypocritical of Jake making fun of Ally’s relationship with Hunter but as soon as Ally mentions Ashley, Jake tells her to not bring her up and starts whining
@TheeDatB
@TheeDatB 6 ай бұрын
I find it hypocritical that Ally in episode 10 brings up Jake’s problems and traumas then when he brings up how she didn’t stop talking about a hunter she started whining. I find it hypocritical that in this episode she talks about Jake’s trauma and how he’s traumas dumping then when Jake brings up Hunter she starts whining and went in a rant. I find it odd that in episode 15 Ally for some reason was so mad that Aiden liked Jake more than her even though they’ve never talked. Also Jake NEVER whined all he said was don’t bring her into thins. Ally was the one whining literally the WHOLE episode. Plsssssss😭😭
@Glitchinthetv
@Glitchinthetv 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheeDatBexactly
@Oreo-o5v
@Oreo-o5v 6 ай бұрын
@@TheeDatB I find it odd that this whole beef started because of Jake’s insecurities and lets it all out on Ally and acts like she’s the main reason for all of this. I find it odd that Jake tries “apologising” to Ally and expects her to immediately forgive him and cant go a second without mentioning Hunter. I find it weird that Jake makes fun of Ally for getting in trouble with Ashley without even seeing that he’s the reason this beef happened in the first place. I swear Ally is so overhated y’all never look at the shit Jake has done because he’s more insecure like oml 💀 “dont bring her into this!” then dont bring up hunter tf 💀💀
@TheBasherShow
@TheBasherShow 6 ай бұрын
@@Oreo-o5vWHY ARE WE EVEN ARGUING ABOUT THIS
@TheeDatB
@TheeDatB 6 ай бұрын
@@Oreo-o5v God forbid someone be jealous and insecure. I’m not saying Jake was right or wrong same for Ally. They both made mistakes and are complex characters🤷🏾
@ericdavis9788
@ericdavis9788 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, Ally was a decent character in Season 2 back when she was doing the love triangle thing with Tess and Hunter. Plus, she wasn't arguing with people every twenty minutes then. But now, she's kinda starting to lose my favoritism. She was so hung up on getting more people to like her that she spent a week arguing with Hunter about it, who was literally just trying to be a supportive boyfriend. And one of the last things she said to him was that all he ever did was make things worse. And out of nowhere, Jake and Ally started arguing with each other, to the point where she literally left him to get mauled by a bear during the TikTok challenge. On a side note, you know you're being insecure when even Jake says so. Then she tries to relate to Grett, who literally had it infinitely worse than her at the end of Season 1. And now, she's outright betrayed the Hero Alliance to vote off Aiden just cuz he said that he prefers Jake over her. I mean, how petty can you be? And I get that she's been under a lotta stress from all the hate comments on her stream since she and Hunter went public about their relationship (some of which came from Yul, for which I hope Hunter and Tess give him a beating), but it doesn't give her the right to bite her boyfriend's head off, leave her challenge partner to get eaten by a bear, and to vote someone off sheerly out of spite. Do better, Ally.
@joshuafoote5144
@joshuafoote5144 6 ай бұрын
In her defense Jake did ask Ally if she simply dated Hunter for ratings. I don’t think it justifies the bear incident though.
@Lulu-it6vv
@Lulu-it6vv 6 ай бұрын
They way her character is being written is the main problem, it's too late to have anything done. First she was one of the most boring and forgettable character on S2, then she starts All Stars with an interesting plot only to do nothing for 8 episodes and then play twist villain by the third time teached by Riya and influenced by Jake's asshole actions towards her, with none of her plots having no devemployment at all or having plot holes. (Like Hunter waving at her on comeback episode and she ignores but then they talk normally later). She'll probably get finale but like, only tess and hunter cheer for her and she breaks down because of it and ranks 3rd place with the learning of "I should care more about my friends opinions instead of haters but also do good things for myself and those around me" and that "I also have my fault in some problems". It sucks, just sucks. She could have done so much more and its just too late for anything now. They could have deveployed her arc sooner, finished her arc with Hunter or have a good reason to switch sides instead of hating Jake, heck, her beef with Jake wasnt not needed at all they could have been besties who help each other with their mans instead. Her twist villain arc just proves to me that girl is not winning at all.
@Byfvdude
@Byfvdude 6 ай бұрын
It takes to a point that Jake (who was one of my most hated characters) becames one of my favorites and Ally the contrary, its sad to see how this character is now
@ethanv0729
@ethanv0729 6 ай бұрын
They go back and forth between who gets eliminated in the seasons in all stars which means riya is not gonna be eliminated bc she's not a season 1 character which mean alec will be eliminated and here's how I would think it would go, the villans vote for Connor and the heros vote for alec bc he's the smartest with strategy in the villans alliance, Connor uses the immunity totem canceling all of Connors votes and alec gets eliminated, then I think them rest of the elimination order will be double elimination riya and Connor then, Jake, ally and grett will be finalists, with Jake getting 3rd, ally getting second and grett winning the 3 million because there have been multiple foreshadowing that grett will win even in season one she said "you're looking at this games future winner" which is probably just a coincidence If I get this right I'm actually gonna freak out
@dummyhali2064
@dummyhali2064 6 ай бұрын
I never really liked Ally even before all stars. Idk she was js kinda meh to me in Season 2. I liked her relationship with hunter and Tess but I wasn’t all that excited when Hunter and Ally got together since I shipped Tess and Hunter more.
@pepitocovid-91
@pepitocovid-91 6 ай бұрын
I was hoping for the three of them to be in a polyamorous relatonship, I feel like that would've made the relationship better ngl
@dummyhali2064
@dummyhali2064 6 ай бұрын
@@pepitocovid-91 yeah that would’ve made more sense bc Tess and Ally liked Hunter and Hunter likes both of them.
@DerekGutierrezbarba
@DerekGutierrezbarba 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion your absolutely right In the second season she was ok to me I mean even though she was bland she was just a normal gamer girl but in all stars especially the Tik tok episode I was so disappointed at her for leaving jake and thinking she would’ve have won when it’s to pairs not one and SHE LISTENS TO RIYA.. RIYA AFTER HUNTER AND TESS CHEER HER UP ABOUT THE HAYE FANS SHE TOTALLY FORGOT THEM AND LISTENS TO RIYA LIKE WHAT THE HELL? I hope Hunter and Tess where wachting the episode and schold her about her behavior because that’s just wrong or ally can betray Riya in the next episode or riya is gonna back Stab her in future episodes If Riya stays there and please I want Riya to be gone I hate her so much but so much
@ultra_5488
@ultra_5488 6 ай бұрын
Ally used to be a bottom character for me before DCAS, in S2 she had limited interactions and most of them were with Tess and Hunter, she didn't bring much to the table to reach final 6 (tbf Aiden and Hunter didn't either) and wasn't interesting, coming to All-Stars I found it interesting that they used that out-of-universe hate and implemented it to the canon, they stablish that it really affected her mentality and its not like we've never seen negative traits with her, we know that she was jealous when Hunter and Tess kissed and that she pretended to be fine with her so Hunter wasn't uncomfortable. On DCAS Ally becomes very insecure and doubts herself, she doesn't think she's strong, she doesn't feel good being called a hero, and she isn't sure if she's just being dramatic, and I really like that, she's similar to Jake and they take similar paths but make different decisions, when Alec tried to manipulate Jake to flip he was wary of him and rejected the idea, on the other hand, when Riya approached Ally she eventually got her to flip (Grett also helped but Ally would've voted for Jake if he didn't win immunity), another parallel is Aiden and Jake trusting each other to escape the wolf but Ally breaking that trust by leaving Jake with the bear, talking about that, it isn't justified to leave someone to die but I'm not going to dismiss a character just because they did a bad thing, after all they're fictional and the show isn't sure if that situation should be taken seriously or not, James poisoned Yul, Aiden got Karol injured, Miriam threw Fiore off a cliff, Riya left Aiden on a cliffhanger, etc. My biggest problem with Ally this season is her lack of screentime until Ep 14, that's 2/3 of the season where she wasn't relevant and I really don't like that approach, inbetween those episodes she only shined on Ep 5 and 6, similar to Grett who just gained her old personality back and started being relevant on Ep 13 and don't get me started on how dragged the YulGrett plot was. Overall I'm happy that Ally is finally doing something, I have other thoughts on Ally but I'll wait till the season ends to see where they go, and I hope she reaches the finale since she has a lot of potential, Ally has gone this far for a reason, right? Anyways have a good day
@ethbeatthem4836
@ethbeatthem4836 6 ай бұрын
Jake anger towards Alley started because he thought as Bad as Fiore is, she might be right about Alley taking Ashley away from him. Alley wanting to prove herself as useful to Ashley was mistaken thanks to Fiore lies. Then Jake saw what Hunter had problems with and kept that anger as much as he tried to move pass he broke when Alley picked “not look bad to fan” over both there lives and there chance at winning. Alley is convinced Jake an hater who put others down because his problems are more important. They haven’t broken free completely from what Alec, Fiore and Riya said to cause drama.
@renegadesoul8701
@renegadesoul8701 6 ай бұрын
My problem with this season overall is how they wait a lot of time until a character does something different (for example, Grett and Ally). I think they did a better job with Jake, but I'm still not convinced at all.
@renegadesoul8701
@renegadesoul8701 6 ай бұрын
But, I think that Grett is more rootable than Ally because we are familiar with her character since season 1 and we felt bad about her getting treated like trash by Yul. On the other hand, Ally was a bland character on season 2, so this is the one season where we expected to see her become a solid character and she DOESN'T. It's just frustrating.
@RaptorZL
@RaptorZL 6 ай бұрын
I loved Ally for being unpredictable, but this unpredictable isn't a good one. It honestly seems like a push just to have a reason for Ally staying that long and possibly making final 4 or even finale.
@bookmarkobjectanimations123
@bookmarkobjectanimations123 6 ай бұрын
Ally get's too much hate for the modern arguments, jake still get's too much hate and blame for the eadly arguments, was jake the first aggressive one in a lot of them, yes, was ally also unwilling to try not fight, also yes. Both have never treated eachother well after episode 6. I don't know why jake loves to bring up her relationship so much tbh, but ally has also brought up his relationship with tom more than once so not really against either of them for that. The biggest issue woth ally is just that it's an amazing idea, with terrible execution
@nuggetsmileyfan
@nuggetsmileyfan 6 ай бұрын
Ally never brought up Jake's relationship with Tom in any scenes whatsoever (if anyone she brought up Ashley).
@Ale_Creates
@Ale_Creates 6 ай бұрын
​@@nuggetsmileyfan she did in a prior episode
@daisanity6457
@daisanity6457 6 ай бұрын
​@@nuggetsmileyfanig they're referring to "All Jake does is talk about himself and his problems" and how she assumed that what Jake and Ashley was talking about is less important than breakfast
@PROfessor-IDV
@PROfessor-IDV 6 ай бұрын
I dont hate Ally, but I am upset that she took the advice Riya gave but it was pretty much the same thing Tess, and Hunter said. The Aiden stans need to stop whining too her flipping was the smartest move she could have made, or else she would have just gotten 4th
@Gummyz25
@Gummyz25 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the pacing with ally is what ruins her in this season. They set up a good story with her feeling self conscious about her fans and wanting to do what they say. They didn’t focus on it at all in the beginning and then to compensate over corrected by trying to shove what should be like a season long arc into like 2 episodes. She could have tried reaching out to the heroes more but they all like each other more than her she could try getting closer with aiden and Connor and they both leave her to hang with Jake. This would make her being hurt they like Jake more make sense. This would then be pushing her further into feeling forgotten like her haters saying she’s forgettable. Riya could then swoop in being like I got fans for being a villain. She could then feel like she needs to improve herself more and more making her ruin herself as a person to get fan approval.
@T205-y9u
@T205-y9u 6 ай бұрын
Yeah they completely missed the mark with her when it came to All-Stars. I really wanted to love Ally in this season just as much as S2, but the writing makes it so hard for me to root of her as most of the time, she doesn't do much. And when Ally does get to do something, her screentime consist of arguing with Jake or worrying what people think about her. Man she could've had an badass arc of not caring about haters or trolls. But even then, she should've had this earlier instead of the Hunter shit. The VR challenge could've been Ally's moment fr. Wasted potential smh.
@maxandreoliveira
@maxandreoliveira 6 ай бұрын
Ally was one of my favorite characters in S2. I think she is fun enough as is. But in the start of AS, she was not feeling at all like herself, and now this new Ally they want to pass as the real Ally is also not much like Ally at all. I miss S2 Ally so much, tbh. I wish they never derailed her like this and just made her a early boot instead if that was the case
@pepitocovid-91
@pepitocovid-91 6 ай бұрын
Warning: Yap session below THANK GOD YOU EXPLAINED ALMOST PERFECTLY MY FEELINGS ABOUT HER, SHE'S JUST SO BLAND AND BORING, AND HER VIDEOGAME REFERENCES ARE ANNOYING‼️😭😭 I've never liked her since the start of this season as well, on her past season I was able to relate to her in some ways, but omg she has become one of the worst characters during this season, I absolutely hate her, at least Jake had some character improvements. Besides that I believe that their beef wouldn't have gotten this bad if she didn't respond harshly to Jake when he was down, like, the man told her he wanted to be alone, and she had to get mad at him for that??? Like dude he is trying to process his feelings towards what happened with Tom, same with that one time that he was talking to Ashley about improving himself, he just told her (a bit mad ngl) that he wanted to be alone with Ashley so they could talk, Ally didn't have to respond back in the same way, she could've just gone away and talk to them later. And I do admit that Jake made a hell tons of mistakes as well, he's a pathetic and jealous drama queen, but at least he actully has something going on and he is trying to improve?!? Ngl I thought I would relate more to Ally as a person, like for example we are shy and anxious people that cannot handle hate, but girl took it a bit to the extreme ngl I have more feelings towards her, but I'm too lazy to write it down + I don't know how to phrase it, I may write for myself a wholeass essay/ rant about Jake and Ally trying to untangle my feelings about them after I rewatch all the seasons again but in spanish
@szymkowskadominika
@szymkowskadominika 6 ай бұрын
Yes I agree with you, I disliked Ally before. Mainly because in her season she doesnt do much except of playing games and being in love triangle with Hunter. Then she gets with Hunter and she tries to cooperate with Fiore which is good, but also she is very harsh to Hunter, doesnt communicate with him at all, and she doesnt try to understand him. That time when she said to Fiore that Hunter wants to apologize to her when he never did was weak asf and Im glad it didnt work. Also Ally is so insecure and always want EVERYBODY to like her when we all know it is impossible and she does not even like herself. This type of people are mostly miserable people that project their issues with self-worth and self-image to others, like she did to Hunter. Then she sings about hating him when he supports her fully, she doesnt listen to his and Tess advice after another sweet and sugarly coated scene of them talking, when it seems that they made up the conflict between her and Hunter and that she will finally start acting decent... And if she start acting decent, even if she had to betray the "heroes" which I understand was a logical move, because she was the least liked person in the alliance and this time it actually matters because she will be voted out by heroes right before finale (unless she gains immunity, which she never did as far as I Remember), she listened to RIYA of all people. She is so naive and easy to manipulate because she listens to the people that she should know are bad instead of friends, and also she does evetything to impress her HATERS (even Yul said he left some of those comments, and she cares more about YUL than Hunter or winning the Tiktok challenge???). I didnt disliked her that much before but in All Stars when I see her true colors its just awful. I would hope that she will grow enough to stop caring about others' opinion on her if they dont want good for her, but not in this way... And on top of that, she left Jake to die. So saying that she gets much hate just because she left Jake to die is foolish, it was just the final straw & Jake was right about her. I know Jake was also a dick to her because he was jealous of Ashley just like she was jealous of Aiden. The difference is that Jake is aware of the fact that he was bad and he wants to change. That is why I started to like him again and Ally is just... Hopeless at this point, she annoys me even more than Riya, which is hard to do
@wayanilaw
@wayanilaw 6 ай бұрын
Honnestly I really like Ally this season and can relate to her insecurities with social media but the only thing that made me kinda sad is her relationship with Jake (my favourite character) because I Liked théière relationship on épisode 6 when they both relate to each other’s situation.Ally loosing Hunter and Jake loosing Tom.I think it was best for them to just be friend but I hate when they started arguing even so Ashley tried to rebuild their relationship it didn’t work.Anyways I just hope them to be friends again and I think that they both have their flaws and receive a lot of hate for that
@Justcatc
@Justcatc 6 ай бұрын
Ally honestly needs to get her own episode...I love her arc but it is really just a mix of characters
@Liquidity624
@Liquidity624 6 ай бұрын
And the fact that I think she’s probably going to make it to the finale is just terrible. All because OH WE NEED A SEASON 2 CHARACTER IN THE FINALE. I would 1,000 times take Connor over Ally even if he’s a rejoiner. He’s far more interesting and more likable than Ally would ever be. If not I don’t mind if the finale is just all the remaining Season 1 characters.
@JamesDheartsUndertale
@JamesDheartsUndertale 6 ай бұрын
Yeah we should have riya in the final better than ally. Lol
@pepitocovid-91
@pepitocovid-91 6 ай бұрын
I'd rather have either Connor or Riya over her ngl 😭😭 I'm rooting for either Jake, Connor or Grett to win
@sniperstorm-o9b
@sniperstorm-o9b 6 ай бұрын
I honestly hate Ally. I never liked her in the first series and this series as well. I Honestly agree with Jake. I feel bad for Hunter, I understand that she's insecure but she still has no right to get Jake to get eaten by a bear. I understand that Jake also made mistakes as well but she thinks that her whole career matters more than everyone else! Not everyone is supposed to like you, deal with it- 💀 and her getting jealous of Jake because Aidan was starting to trust Jake more than her is not anyone's fault but hers- she never even talked to Aidan 💀
@evanholloway1692
@evanholloway1692 6 ай бұрын
I can see why. I knew Jake and Ally had a lot of stress on their relationship, but I never thought one would go that far.
@oziswag3260
@oziswag3260 6 ай бұрын
I have to agree with Jake
@Mostillist
@Mostillist 6 ай бұрын
the problem with ally is she thinks shes entitled to peoples time and respect like no shit aiden likes jake over you you never talked to him. like we are in the final 6 ally has pretty much only talked to jake riya and ashley like who is supposed to like her at this point. if she was smart she would of voted alec or connor out. get rid of alec riya has no choice but to join you, get rid of connor it hurts jakes games and gives you the respect of the villians
@lockskelington314
@lockskelington314 6 ай бұрын
Jake’s dislike of her makes me think his ex was a streamer and holds a bias ageinst her. Also I 100% thought she removed the switch from her bag at the beginning of the season to look for a reason to argue and then break up with Hunter.
@mrsphealtheseal
@mrsphealtheseal 6 ай бұрын
This could've been a plotline for the start of merge instead of what we got instead. Or if Hunter were here, have her eliminate him. Would've made her at least a little more impactful.
@ryeryeharleyquinncatwomana4168
@ryeryeharleyquinncatwomana4168 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I am gonna feel so bad if Tess and hunter unfriends ally and hunter dumping ally and then ally whould lose everything and then she whould be lonely 😞 which I will feel sad for ally cuz I know Jake just wants ally to be the bad girl so everyone can jake as a hero and make ally as a villain and I honestly think Jake is kinda being sometimes harsh to ally I hope she doesn’t lose everything I am gonna be scared if ally being alone cuz no one likes her but I know Tess and hunter won’t abandoned her it’s gonna be sad if ally is voted out next episode so Jake can rub it in her face
@pandora2307
@pandora2307 6 ай бұрын
She was literally Jakes punching bag almost entire season. She did one wrong thing and everyone is hating on her. But give Jake so many second chances
@Murder_drones_fan800
@Murder_drones_fan800 6 ай бұрын
I kinda feel bad for ally
@LexxoSlay-vj9qm
@LexxoSlay-vj9qm 6 ай бұрын
same i always hated ally lol
@Spookyn.
@Spookyn. 6 ай бұрын
It's kinda of annoying how the ppl that didn't even notice Ally throughout the episodes r now hating on her for being "mean". Like mf you don't even know what Ally got through, y r you trying to have an opinion abt this?
@Glitchinthetv
@Glitchinthetv 6 ай бұрын
People cant have opinions?
@szymkowskadominika
@szymkowskadominika 6 ай бұрын
What Ally got through except of whining XD
@pepitocovid-91
@pepitocovid-91 6 ай бұрын
She has always annoyed me since the first episode of All Stars ngl I'd thought she would get better throught the episode, I was rooting for her to do more interesting stuff, but she would just always complain and do nothing, and as some others said, her arc came too late + it wasn't what I expected, I'd thought that she wouldn't become (or try to) become a villain due to Riya's manipulation, I would've loved to see her being neither a hero nor a villain and just her doing her own thing, but as she currently stands, I absolutely despise her, more than Riya and Yul, because at least Riya is like somewhat playing a character trying to be evil and the worst person and Yul is simply a terrible person. I wish Ally would've had her arc sooner or something like that, she is definitely a waste of character slot, instead we could've had literaly any other participant back and it woul've been even more interesting than her, I really wish that Drew was in the season instead of her (dang it now I'm brainstorming a whole ass AU about it) it would've also made sense as well, we didn't see almost anything related to Drew and Ally not participating could've been because of her relationship falling apart with Hunter, her not being on it would've developed so many characters, like holy shit sorry for this rant but I need her GONE
@Spookyn.
@Spookyn. 6 ай бұрын
@@pepitocovid-91 That's a fair point, but i wouldn't come as far to say that she still is a waste of a casting slot, since i see a lot of potential in her character for some cool ass development. With that in mind, i'm really hoping she's gonna do smth aside from beefing with Jake in the next episode (i'm sure she's still acting like a dick towards him cuz it makes her feel validated by both Riya and Grett, since they r the only ones in camp that actually seem to care abt her (spoilers: they don't)), and if the writers r going in the direction i'm thinking of (the good one), they r taking this character (that still really insecure and heavily manipulated by other ppl's opinions) and making her realize that no one rlly cares abt her problems and shit (and after seeing her confessional in the last episode, I'm convinced she's gonna take notice of how much she has been used for ppl's advantage). It would've been awesome if she had a small breakdown alone abt this(in the middle of the woods or smth), before getting up and locking tf in for that 3 million dollars, but at this point I'm just asking for too much lol.
@KamenRiderAo25330
@KamenRiderAo25330 6 ай бұрын
this is kinda sad as ally used to tie with ellie but episode 14 made me hate her and 15 was the nail in the coffin
@TheOpinionator1610
@TheOpinionator1610 6 ай бұрын
“Jake was bullying Ally” is kind of strong, isn’t it. I mean, he was rude to her, yeah…but bullying? I don’t think so.
@Nan-bara
@Nan-bara 6 ай бұрын
I honestly stopped liking Ally the episode she was bitching about Hunter fighting with Fiore. Everyone in season 1 was fighting with fiore, and Ally said she watched season 1 with the vr tech, so why did she ignore the fact that hunter wasnt fighting with a child but rather a demon. Plus all the jake and ally beef STARTED with Ally. Yes she was trying to be nice with jake and he came off very standoffish, but at least he said "not right now please" and he was already going through shit with Tom and Aiden, got dome having James insult him, then feeling like Ashley was abandoning him for Ally, and instead of staying nice and juat saying "fine, whatever" she just straight up pulls a james and insults him adding fuel to the fire. Plus she always brags about how jake is sulking over tom, but as soon as jake says the same thing about ally sulking over hunter, now jakes in the wrong?. At least jake has a reason to hate ally, first she insults him, complains about him sulking over tom, gets mad at jake when he mentions that she sulks about hunter, insults him even more then they have to work together to film tiktoks and she is making them lose because she doesnt wanna look bad and than leaves him to get mauled by a bear. The only thing jake did was insult her back and complains about her sulking over hunter after she did it to him first. She is a huge hypocrite
@fralpade470
@fralpade470 6 ай бұрын
😂
@Glitchinthetv
@Glitchinthetv 6 ай бұрын
Lets just hope after all stars, Jake and Ally can get along
@Monster64Official
@Monster64Official 6 ай бұрын
But considering how Ally left Jake in a near-death experience... yeah no, Jake could have actually died if he didn't get out in time.
@Glitchinthetv
@Glitchinthetv 6 ай бұрын
@@Monster64Official yeah I don't blame Jake for being mad about that and I can understand why people hate Ally
@jamgameslivestreams1155
@jamgameslivestreams1155 6 ай бұрын
I feel like her eliminating aiden there wasnt just cause he didn't like her it was to make jake more vulnerable to be voted as if she stuck wit connor aiden and jake they would eliminate her fourth and move on.
@IamVeky-qv6fq
@IamVeky-qv6fq 6 ай бұрын
Before she was my favorite character. Just a normal girl fun to watch . Nothing special about her but that is the charm she had of being a normal gamer girl inside of a show like survivor. After she is still my favorite character. But for different reasons. Her switch was reasonable. I didnt like her in ep 15 but in ep 16 she is getting more interesting. I dont se her as a villian. I see her as a girl with rivalry towards jake and a girl playing on her own. If she didn't switch she whould be the first eliminated after all the villans are eliminated. Same thing if she is a villian. She plays gir herself seing greet having an alliance with the heroes Ally does not know if she can trust her. The only problem i have with this Villiam arc is Riya. WHY RIYA. If ally realize herself what riya told her it whould have been 100 times better . Riya fells out of place and if ally sees that riya lied she is eliminated . Ally is 100 procent in the top 4 but if she does not win the challenge then shes gone in ep 18
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 5 ай бұрын
I feel like she exists just for Jake's arc
@MelanieAnimatez
@MelanieAnimatez 6 ай бұрын
They took ally’s character from season two and threw it in the trash and changed her personality
@dylanjohnson3346
@dylanjohnson3346 6 ай бұрын
Your right we are eating riya is mother and shes gonna keep mothering lol
@HolliJuice
@HolliJuice 6 ай бұрын
im sorry but riya is ass, she goddamn sucks, but i will respect your opinion
@uranium_addict
@uranium_addict 6 ай бұрын
Honestly Tess Over Ally in Final 6 would have been Fire
@blackwolfdragon1705
@blackwolfdragon1705 6 ай бұрын
I've always liked her design more than her character tbh
@coltoncorkerin2663
@coltoncorkerin2663 6 ай бұрын
Tbh I never liked her at all
@Disventurecampfan1
@Disventurecampfan1 6 ай бұрын
She is not the worst character she keeps eating the blueberry flop!
@pyattersonn
@pyattersonn 5 ай бұрын
Ngl, I really like Ally
@pyattersonn
@pyattersonn 5 ай бұрын
I feel like she just needs more screen time, and stop caring abt the haters
@dylanjohnson3346
@dylanjohnson3346 6 ай бұрын
Yavent even watched yet but already THANK YOU for treating this bootleg riya 2.0 the same way as riya cuz its the same situation ally is just recycles s2 riya lol
@dalV_Studio
@dalV_Studio 5 ай бұрын
She can't be the worst since Riya exists
@Rookie_Ninja_OSC
@Rookie_Ninja_OSC 6 ай бұрын
my opinion on Ally: 🫤
@trerchry
@trerchry 6 ай бұрын
my opinion on Ally: 🎪 📣🤹‍♀️🐘🤡
@evanholloway1692
@evanholloway1692 6 ай бұрын
I agree.
@pepitocovid-91
@pepitocovid-91 6 ай бұрын
I wish I could rewrite her character to either improve her or just take her out of the gameshow, like omg she's the worst character in MY opinion 😔
@Nailsterr
@Nailsterr 6 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure they’re just writing ally this way so she can be seen as some sort of “villain with 2 sides” in order to make Jake be seen as a hero 🤷 It’s no coincidence that when Ellie was calling out Jake’s insecurities in S1, it painted her as someone in the wrong. But yet when Jake calls out Ally on her insecurities, he’s seen as someone in the right because of it
@jordankibbe
@jordankibbe 6 ай бұрын
Other than that she's ok
@luvable_2381
@luvable_2381 6 ай бұрын
real, ally is so annoying 😭
@pandora2307
@pandora2307 6 ай бұрын
@@luvable_2381 Opinions on Jake?
@cosmicam2425
@cosmicam2425 6 ай бұрын
*me seeing the title* Join the fucking club
@Salvatore98B
@Salvatore98B 6 ай бұрын
And caused Aidens boot
@jordankibbe
@jordankibbe 6 ай бұрын
Not bad but not great just ok/Good character
@serpicoedulmalapongit3034
@serpicoedulmalapongit3034 5 ай бұрын
Am i the only one who likes ally?
@Juliassubseasons
@Juliassubseasons 6 ай бұрын
Okay i might be the only ally hater who doesnt hate her for the bear things (i hate jake tho) its just she hasnt a personality and she is bland in s2 and the hater thing is so annoying like girl move on
@nyk3736
@nyk3736 6 ай бұрын
these kinds of videos need background music
@disventuredcamp
@disventuredcamp 6 ай бұрын
Ally queen
@jordankibbe
@jordankibbe 6 ай бұрын
Ally over jake
@ababab-zy6do
@ababab-zy6do 6 ай бұрын
I wish ally or riya got eliminated in episode 16
@TopRanger237
@TopRanger237 6 ай бұрын
Ally's still my favorite suxk haters especially Jake Stans!
@Martim_mlt
@Martim_mlt 6 ай бұрын
She is one of the best characters and deserves to win all Jake voted for hunter she voted for stillen that's karma and she knows how to play the game
@davidarthur4457
@davidarthur4457 6 ай бұрын
Na ally is a baddie ❤❤❤❤ i respect your opinion tho boo 🔥
@ornellafacchinetti3819
@ornellafacchinetti3819 6 ай бұрын
I Don't Like Disventure Camp All-Stars Ally... I LOVE Disventure Camp All-Stars Ally
@incomplet3535
@incomplet3535 6 ай бұрын
I can defend the writing of Ally's actions in recent episodes to an extent. Now, I'm not a big Ally stan. She can be pretty irritating and cringy ij my opinion. Which is also what I think is the best argument for saying she's a bad character. I can also definitely understand people disliking her for the whole bear incident, however, I don't think a character doing something bad makes them a bad character. And while it could've been set up better and earlier, it at the very least was set up. And although this direction for her character came a little suddenly, at least it's *a* direction for her character. Aside from the whole obsession of her online perception she basically had nothing after Hunter left, and one plot point like that isn't enough to justify her being in the top 7. Then as for her finally flippong in the vote, I don't know why the hell people say this was a dumb strategic move, because it's not, especially from her perspective. Sticking with the heroes after getting confirmation that there's a duo (which is the majority of the alliance) that will prioritize each other over her is what would be an idiotic decision. Which I think is what they were going with with the whole plot point of Aiden saying he prefers Jake over her. It still would've made more sense if she had any grounds to feel betrayed by this. But regardless, while a little stupid, "how can someone like *Jake* over me?" is not out of character at all. In addition, she has a (to her knowledge) genuine ally from the villains alliance (and even Grett offered to work with her).
@smartylion1223
@smartylion1223 6 ай бұрын
Yeah her flipping votes wasn't that dumb and get why she did it.
@ElPato8
@ElPato8 6 ай бұрын
Any characther that hates Jake is my friend. The plot armor Jake has is so broken. Jake should've left ten episodes ago
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