‘I don’t think that’s quite right’: Ross Greenwood criticises Chris Bowen’s nuclear stance

[@paddleboatman3767]

Time to get rid of black out Bowen and his Labor-green party. Election please. Lets remove this one term disaster.

[@Jim-i4j]

FK wind and solar, and FK twiggy forests as well, he’s a FKn rock spider

[@schweppes59]

Chinese arse licker

[@PeterKhan-s2g]

That's a bold statement

[@NoelineHobbs]

Twiggy heavily invested in green energy

[@ricochet2977]

@@PeterKhan-s2g But probably true.

[@clydesimpson1462]

If Twiggy pulls this off he'll be the Benchmark for the world. Making steel using green energy is possible but requires commitment and money and he has both.

[@ivansultanoff6719]

Andrew-go woke -go broke-it will happen

[@bettymarshall2702]

We were never told how much Twiggy put into The Voice.

[@nigelmorgan3449]

Daddy’s money high school drop out dig for ore stay out of politics

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

​@@nigelmorgan3449That would be spot on too

[@jimbo9]

How much did Advance Australia put into the NO campaign.

[@LesleyStoddard]

Let Bowen come up with the true cost green against true cost nulear. No BS.

[@johngeier8692]

Mr Bowen wouldn’t know the time of the day unless someone told him. It is a popular delusion that mans effects on the earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. It is a popular delusion that transitioning to non fossil fuel energy sources will be cheap and easy.

[@batmanlives6456]

Bowen is diametrically opposite to the truth

[@elainehodge9415]

Just remember renewable are an ongoing debt never to end. Is this what you want your fellow Aussies for their future!!!

[@StevenMilne-sm4fk]

Green is an extremely lucrative scam for the wealthy.

[@pa6370]

I can't recall Labor costings on nuclear power, but based on the last unit built and commissioned nuclear power unit at an existing site in the US, I ball parked at cost of about A$385b in todays money to replace existing coal generation in Australia. It would likely be at least a 20-30 year turnaround from the start of site selection to commissioning of the first unit at any site, and the real costs would be well north of the $385b ball park. . We need to forget nuclear, wind, solar and hydro as things that will 'save the day' and extend the life of existing coal plants and build a few more. There is no time to waste in securing the existing coal plants and building a few more. Ball parking the cost to go nuclear isn't hard. Take the nameplate capacity of the existing coal generation and capacity factor for all Australian coal generation combined, and then compare to the Vogtle plants nameplate capacity and capacity factor, then multiply by the cost to get Vogtle 3 up and running.

[@savagegfry]

Forest is a super self centred, extremely greedy person, who has just one interest, which is to satisfy his megalomania. Nothing else matters!

[@suspensiondude]

Having friends who live in Canada with nuclear power, they are gobsmacked with how much we pay for electricity!

[@Time_to_Believe_in_Yourself]

We should've gone nuclear decades ago

[@suspensiondude]

@@Time_to_Believe_in_Yourself I couldn't agree more mate

[@Time_to_Believe_in_Yourself]

@sandponics Nuclear is the cheapest option long term, expensive to start up, but cheap and efficient and clean to run Right now we're doing the equivalent of putting a band aid on Australia's broken leg and expecting it to heal... Instead of putting it in a cast like NORMAL people! (Short term discomfort, long term benefits)

[@gregoryray9920]

​@sandponicsWhat is the lifespan of solar panels? What is solars degradation over time? How much do taxpayers subsidize solar? What happens to the expired panels once they become useless in 15-20 years? Taking all of that into account solar can be useful temporarily but will never supply base load power

[@clydesimpson1462]

Unless you have expensive batteries solar is only good for 12 hours out of a 24 hour day.

[@quietackshon]

Forrest is a disingenuous virtue grifter. "Along with iron, coal is the main ingredient that forms steel, but not just any coal, the ideal grade has low phosphorus and sulphur properties. This coal is heated to over 1000°C, in the absence of oxygen, which purifies the coal into a porous, high carbon substance called coke." "But I only make iron", says Twiggy the piggy.

[@brianmorris8045]

Very woke. I wonder if he drives an EV sedan or ute, or both, to get all his outback work done? Probably not.

[@gribbo001]

Nuclear twiggy!!! You stuffed up with the eggs in one basket.

[@DwayneEhrenreich]

How about let the people decide . Chris Bowen is a fool

[@BatteryCommander]

So are many of the people, though....

[@billsarlija7655]

he's a moron, no brains just like a jellyfish.

[@Kelly-wf5ie]

What do U mean , “ how about “ THE LAW STATES “ The people are SUPREME + SOVEREIGN, not authority/ government !! NO authority/ government IS ABOVE the people !! The ABSOLUTE POWER resides/ remains WITH the PEOPLE !! Honestly what don’t U understand about Australia’s LAWS

[@infidel202]

Green = nuclear energy

[@tba3900]

Of course Bowen isn’t “quite right” syphilis has that effect on the brain.

[@biglap.australia]

What the Labor and a Greens don’t understand is that the majority of Australians have woken/grown up and have become much more comfortable with nuclear power. Australians know solar and wind are NOT a 100% solution to replace coal and gas. We have uranium and we have the geological stability. Labor and the Greens are driving up power prices and this is killing jobs and business. Just take South Australia. It’s a business black hole with the most expensive power prices in the world. Why? Because of all the solar and wind.

[@GCALcontent]

Let's put the Nuclear question to a referendum and (ensure what ever govt is in power at the time) accepts the will of the people like a genuine functional democracy.

[@johngeier8692]

India conducted its first nuclear test in the early 1970s. It has also had nuclear power plants for several decades. Mr Menzies allowed the British to conduct atmospheric nuclear tests on Australian soil in the hope that they would leave a few nuclear weapons here for our defence. It is a popular delusion that mans effects on the earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. It is a popular delusion that transitioning to non fossil fuel energy sources will be cheap and easy. It is a popular delusion that nuclear power plants are unsafe. Germany has based it’s energy policy on these ridiculous popular delusions and Australia is emulating them.

[@maxfish4770]

Too much money. Just do it, how many other countries are getting cheap, clean and reliable electricity

[@nigelmorgan3449]

We need nuclear id rather look at a box with a hose into a water catchment But sitting on the beach watching wind farms out in the ocean and miles of solar farms aren’t we a lucky country Run by idiots

[@Luum81]

Need to ensure full amounts and comparisons are given to ensure an educated vote. That said, there will be plenty on either side of the fence who won't want to listen to the other and won't vote with their heads. My vote would be for Nuclear, provided we can dig it, refine it and recycle the waste here in Australia, by fully Australian owned companies.

[@anomadhunter]

With enormous wealth comes extreme eccentricity...let Mr. Forrest invest all his own money into alternative energy sources (with NO government subsidies ), and lets see how much money he loses...

[@stevemartin7464]

He would stop immediately. Because he knows it makes no sense.

[@ricochet2977]

You’d think with all his 💰💰💰he has made out of Australia he might be a bit more benevolent towards Australia and use his wealth for the benefit of the people, instead of his own self interests.

[@robharris6874]

I think Twiggy worried he has done his doe, he looks desperate !!

[@bettymarshall2702]

You mean insane

[@Gazzatron51]

Hope he ends up like Alan Bond.

[@ricochet2977]

Self interest seems to ring true with twiggy.

[@garystrahan4601]

He receives a lot of money from Australian taxpayers in the form of grants.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

He's backed the wrong horse

[@torrespearls381]

Thank you so much for this presentation. Keep up the good work. Please.

[@PaulNisatouring]

Great segment. Pity our incompetent government doesn’t think like the rest of us.

[@UberMick]

You need carbon inclusion to turn iron ore into the various forms of the steel, no amount of 'renewable' technology can change this basic fact, so green steel or green hydrogen for that matter is a complete fallacy. You'd think mining companies would be all for nuclear, sticking to renewables means they still need an array of diesel back up generators running to ensure none of the plant goes down, so that's nearly the same amount of generators running that they'd normally need, plus the fuel and fuel transport costs, plus setting up wind or solar which involves clearing vast amounts of land, installation costs, replacement costs. Sounds like a massive waste of money for nothing, nuclear modules gets rid of backup generators, smaller foot print where the power is needed, no refuelling for decades with reliable energy 24/7. He must be getting massive tax breaks or something...

[@johnwoodrow8769]

Even if 'green hydrogen' were to become technically and economically feasible, why on earth do these clowns assume the rest of the world will just leave it all to Australia. Europe and China will produce it using their nuclear power at a cheaper cost and closer to markets.

[@coconuciferanuts339]

Yes.A.Forrest is about making money.Gain of function.

[@sallycent6598]

I think the Labor has something to do with this for him to speak out on the renewable energy. The Labor is a very sneaky party.

[@pwillis1589]

I think that’s his point. He wants to make as much money as he can. He has looked at the numbers and nucs don’t do it for him.

[@Kelly-wf5ie]

Making $$$ with the Australian people’s BIRTHRIGHT our minerals etc.. so where’s our cut , he does NOT own our dirt / land, WE the people do

[@pwillis1589]

@Kelly-wf5ie Mining companies pay a state royalty payment as well as a federal Minerals Resource Rent Tax. These tax's go into consolidated revenue and pay for Medicare, hospitals, and social security.

[@Kelly-wf5ie]

@@pwillis1589 So AGAIN the worker ( taxpayers ) are RIPPED OFF once again according to OZ LAW ( the CC of Australia 1901 UK )

[@yodaandthebike5839]

Bravo Ross

[@maxfish4770]

I bet if twiggy invested in nuclear he would be calling it the best thing since sliced bread. To the anti nuclear people, the Simpsons isn't real

[@dawnkerr6966]

Getting huge govtt grants to go wind and solar so why would he want nuclear when his business is all about renewables thats how the rich get richer being on the side of govt handouts

[@bornyesterday1895]

another grant? Like the one he got to start Fortescue after sending Anaconda broke? Hes full of shit - started his company wwith an interest free loan from the Australian Treasury, and now tells everyone he started at the bottom. Con artist, and a taxpayerr funded one. Any idiot can get rich if someone gives you a several hundred million $ interest free loan.

[@タコの王]

Even the banga’s are building nuclear……..its now just embarrassing

[@steeldragon5867]

Andrew forest is a green grifter, anything for money, anything

[@stevemartin7464]

Well... yes, but the sooner its started the sooner it will be achieved, nuclear is the only viable option.

[@paulgee6111]

Well said! And that racism is being manufactured by those who appointed Sunak.

[@johnwoodrow8769]

It has been estimated that 'rewiring the nation' to accommodate all the wind and solar farms to achieve (hopefully) 85% will cost upward of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS or more. That's the equivalent of twenty-five nuclear power station (at the top end cost of 40 Billion each), enough to power the whole of Australia for the next hundred years with near ZERO adverse impact on the environment (both physically and visually). By the time Snowy 2 is finished, and likely to ever produce little, a nuclear power plant could have been built in the same timeframe and cost.

[@clydesimpson1462]

Australia has already spent 1.5 Trillion on wind and solar for 25% of energy. Snowy 2 original cost was 2 Billion cost overrun is now north of 12 Billion.

[@Wombat-y7t]

Ross Greenwood.. Government is simply protecting their donors on the minerals Council.

[@3D-Print-Timelapse-video]

Labor needs to go, vote them out on Saturday.. Send a message..

[@johngeier8692]

The carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels are largely beneficial. Benefits include increased agricultural yields (main effect) reduced winter heating costs, fewer deaths from hypothermia and postponement of the next glacial maximum. Wind has a low energy density and wind power is centuries out of date . Wind farms only exist due to massive taxpayer funded subsidies. They make no economic sense. They are a colossal waste of taxpayers money and resources (including coal and oil). Solar panels are only economical as a supplement in sunny areas between the 35th parallels. Even in favourable areas there is a major mismatch between peak supply and peak demand. Inclement weather can render them useless for prolonged periods. Nuclear energy and geothermal energy are currently under utilised.

[@johnwoodrow8769]

You are spot on that IF man's activity is warming the planet, it may save the place from near total global extinction when the next ice age arrives. There will be another one (we've had 7 already) its only a question of when.

[@LesleyStoddard]

Its all about me. (Twiggy). Car sales man of the year.

[@rogermckinnon5738]

Time for Bowen, labor, and their allies. The Teal Independents and the Greens to go asap

[@addLADN]

There is no way DJ Albo will sack Bowen. His tentacles are all over his portfolio. He has never held one himself and then 32% of Australians still voted for the weasel. I hope people can see what a mistake this was.

[@lynndonharnell422]

I'm guessing Twiggy hasn't heard of Ontario.

[@kenlydon1395]

The fact that a single individual can become a multi BILLIONAIRE from selling the iron ore which rightfully belongs to ALL Australians equally is outrageous, but this is the subject which is never raised in the media. It is time Australians insisted on the nationalisation of their mineral wealth , then the people who own the resources could have say in what happens to them , instead of greedy mining companies .

[@kanderson4417]

I'm sure he pays tax on his profits, as well as providing jobs.

[@jenzag7621]

Andrew, has only his own interests at heart.

[@peterbarnhoorn7879]

Run Forest run...ffs he's never wrong, knows everything just ask him...😮

[@testedtrue7693]

this is what the referendum should have been on

[@cynthiajones8763]

It is all about the money for himself. It has nothing to do about Australia. Nuclear is the only way to go. It is also the cheapest form of energy to produce. Expensive to set up but it is still cheaper overall than renewable which are unreliable and only work about 20% whereas nuclear works 24/7.

[@shanebaldrys134]

Bowen leave and take albo with you...😡

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

The only ones who benefit from renewable are the billionaires that's involved in the supply chain with it. It's expensive for everyone else, though. Renewables only last 20 years, and that's if they don't get damaged in between. Imagine the cost to replace millions of renewables every 2 decades. And people think the defence force is expensive to replace equipment. The replacement will exceed the ADF budget

[@mariomoleta1545]

Bowen not fit to shovel shit.😢😮

[@leslinmorriss418]

He would make a mess of that (pun intended)

[@PeterKhan-s2g]

Twiggy is a fool

[@gregjenkins2925]

yes, but a very rich fool, that is mentally deranged..

[@coilnchamberlain6506]

Mankind cannot change the climate.The truth is. Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease."

[@kermitthehermit9588]

This is why we can’t have nice things 🤦‍♂

[@stancraigie601]

What exactly is a green energy super power?

[@clydesimpson1462]

Words with no meaning.

[@Georgina-l4p]

Unicorn s**t.

[@lesliecarter4295]

Both industries complement each other !

[@garreysellars5525]

Thankyou Ross well explained

[@peterkortum7799]

Wasn’t forest behind the teals . Helped get labour in so he could reap his economic bounty

[@nickstoic2944]

Thank you for posting. Governments that don't work in the best interest of their country and citizens or are incompetent, must quit. There are lots of intelligent and capable people and politicians that can fix all these issues in the favor of whom they would represent.

[@parqld]

Ross we are not nuts, it’s the bloody politicians that are nuts !

[@marktanska6331]

That is why Forester and Bowen are against nuclear, it makes hard to make profit from wind and solar. And limit the eternal growth for it.

[@David-d4k9k]

Bowen is going to turn us into Fred Flintstonestan.

[@AA-oc9vu]

What happened to the anti slavery watch? Did it get done? What was the outcome?

[@geoff2824]

Nuclear is not clean, nor green. Focussing in CO2, one of the least significant greenhouse gases, does not provide a balanced view of our ecology.

[@lukeclifton4392]

The world can’t even achieve green manufacturing and yet people believe that Twiggy can make “green” steel!?… steel smelting being the most energy intensive industry in the world!🤷‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ I’ll consider Twiggy’s ambitions when European automakers can achieve green manufacturing… and they’re the best in class.

[@Coops777]

Well said Ross. Bowen cant be told, won't be told.

[@shannon-852]

Nuclear is the answer for economic power production. Pity they shut the Ranger mine back in 2021 while everyone was distracted. Our other major mine in SA holds the world's largest uranium deposit, with it we could replace 4 to 5 coal power stations for 1 nuclear station which would probably fix that pesky emissions target. Fun fact: Gladstone is Australias oldest operational coal power station, built in 1973.

[@georgebeare8883]

If Forrest was just being a businessman, pushing for his own corner of heavy investment to get the backing of government, I would say that is fair enough. It is what business leaders must do. But no, this bloke always comes out on the front foot, telling us all how he is the altruist on a mission to save us all, or make our lives better. Painting himself as just a bloke who wants to do good and help out. And that is what turns my stomach: his lies and hypocrisy.

[@alanrobynkelly2579]

He's a WEF supporter, say no more.

[@alastairgair7504]

Australia can't run domestic and industries on solar panels & wind turbines alone, batteries would have to be enormous and be on standby mode, until the wind doesn't blow and the sun's not shining ! And let's face it, all renewables are just that 15 to 20 years lifespan! A

[@kathleencook3060]

France has built her Nuclear Industry on Australian Uranium!

[@SA-nv5tc]

Twiggy is one of the top 5 carbon emitters in Australia. As an individual, he is one of the highest in the world. He is a disgrace! Remove him and Australia’s carbon footprint drops significantly!

[@clydesimpson1462]

Federal Government has just approved 6 new gas wells in the N.T. all for export. Australia will never achieve Net Zero when approvals for mines and wells are increasing.

[@drcolster]

ROSS GREENWOOD FOR DEPUTY P.M.& ENERGY MINISTER... WE WILL HAVE A SMART PERSON ON THE JOB..WITH MALCOM ROBERTS FROM ONE NATION AS P.M..PAULINE ON IMIGRATION AND BORDER CONTROL...RENNICK ON THE JOB OF HEALTH..

[@garyjagoe9541]

Why can’t Chris Bowen tell us the cost and subsidies the Australian taxpayers are paying and will continue to pay for the ideology of his green transition? And. What car does he drive? 😁

[@batmanlives6456]

Bone headed Blackouts Bowen isn’t quite right ….

[@matthewphair2469]

Never will make steel with renewables total rubbish. Volvo's has done it but at what cost per KG. Nuclear is the only way that's green but coal will always be used for steel.

[@alistairdancepmm]

Australia (The West in general) can't have decent debates about anything: migration, energy, climate, housing, health, vaccines..........You name it

[@davidferry548]

“ it’s not easy being green, tbe colour of the leaves” but it sure helps when you are a billionaire

[@kevo6942]

All those in favour say WEF!

[@waves7250]

If climate change is really leading us to an apocalypse why aren’t we able to try go down the path of nuclear power? It’s why I’m sceptical about all this climate hysteria because if it was really that bad we should and would try everything at our disposal.

[@VK6AB-]

Bowens stance is based on politics not reason. To put it into a modern context, Finland just commissioned Europes largest nuclear power plant (Olkiluoto 3 reactor in May 2023) and the first in 15 years or so - with nuclear making ~ 40% of total electrical energy production. Add to that Sweden, who gave the world Greta Thunberg, ~ 30% of its current electricity generation comes from nuclear and in November 2023 the government announced plans to construct two large-scale reactors by 2035 and the equivalent of 10 new reactors, including small modular reactors, by 2045. Finland and Sweden are two of the highest cost jurisdictions in the world. Australia is host to some of the worlds largest reserves of uranium and we have a geologically stable land mass suitable for the effective long term disposal of the small amounts of nuclear waste produced. Also, everyone seems to forget we have a nuclear reactor in Sydney at Lucas Heights. The ALP appears to have limited capacity to understand STEM based information.

[@polarbear7255]

‘The ALP appears to have the capacity to understand STEM based information’ 😂 Do they though? I mean really? 😂 Good post mate 👍

[@VK6AB-]

@@polarbear7255 Thanks for pointing that out, I left out the key word "limited" I have added it.

[@davidjohnston8639]

Nuclear is the clear path forward, so are HELE coal fired plants and large scale gas turbine generation plants, solar, wind and their batteries are nothing more than emergency backup power options

[@actualfacts1055]

Remove the ban on nuclear power generation and let private enterprise pay for it, if it is viable, too complicated for the Labor numbskulls.

[@QuinnMallory-od1hw]

Truth is green energy would only work if every household had solar panels installed on their roofs. Windmills are too far away and the infrastructure too expensive. As for nuclear power, water reactors are the worse idea, but thorium salt reactors while harder are alot safer and a worthwhile alternative.

[@Coopsoldman]

I can't blame the guy. All he's done is seen what these nutjobs are doing with policy and jumped in early to position himself. I don't agree with the way renewables are pushed but if i was in his position, i probably would have done the same thing

[@wildcard3233]

Then their is the question of waste and where to put it ! I recall WA premier saying not in his state !

[@milosradovanovic5280]

Definitely, the biggest hypocrisy ever. 💯🙏🤗🐖👍❤️🇦🇺🇺🇸 2:35

[@mickyryan9280]

Wow. Wow. Wow. Andrew Forest fought tooth and nail against the carbon tax and these types clapped and cheered. Now it seems he has changed his tune and he is a pariah. This will do me. Seriously.

[@WarrickSmith-k8v]

Bowens a tool

[@peterfalconer-h3k]

Ross Greenwood isn't right either, as of mid 2023 there were 57 nuclear power plants under construction with an average construction time of 7 years.

[@elizabethbird5814]

@user-rc8oy1nm1d where are the 57 Nuclear Power Stations construction sites in Australia. Australia has a Nuclear Industry that has Been Banned from operating. It only takes international nuclear waste as passive income.

[@peterfalconer-h3k]

@@elizabethbird5814 None of them are in Australia.

[@GarthClarkson]

Isn't the coal in steelmaking not related to power generation but as an ingredient added to the iron to turn it into steel? I thought that steel was an iron carbon alloy. As I see it green steel will solve the coal burning issue but it won't remove the need for metallurgical coal.

[@stephenbarrett7064]

That’s how dum our politicians are in Australia if Bangladeshi are Building nuclear power stations they must be wealthier than Australia now or being subsidised by other countries

[@serverlan763]

6-8 years to build a working reactor. Thats it...

[@garyjones4001]

You have to ask yourself who is running this country because nothing makes sense

[@StevenGuegens]

Chris Bowen doesn't even drive vehicles he gets chauffeur driven everywhere he goes so really what would he really NO and that is NOTHING infact has he BOWEN ever driven a VEHICLE ever BEFORE I'd like to NO ????🤔????? For if NOT his own opinion counts for sweet F All 💯 percent 👎

[@calgeo11]

Chris Bowen….who’s she

[@michaelw6173]

India just announced 18 new reactors by 2035, they already operate 22. India has had Nuclear Power generation since 1969 and the most recent came on line in 2017. if they can do it, so can we. Ideology trumps commonsense.

[@garyjones4001]

That one man can own our minerals is descusting

[@Commieh8r4eva]

Nothing scares Twiggy more than loosing money.

[@ricshumack9134]

Reactor average build time is 6 - 8 years. Median is 7.5 years

[@stanyeaman4824]

Neither Forrest nor Bowen understand anything of the science of nuclear power.

[@AnarchistBogan]

Anything Cassonova Bowen thinks is good is automatically bad.

[@woodrow60]

The French could do it for us, easily.

[@mickyryan9280]

We also already have renewables here in Australia. Way more than nuclear. It’ll be cheaper.

[@leonardcooper2680]

Twiggy looks after Twiggy.. afraid his gravey train will dry up

[@RaymondSewell-g6z]

The hypocrisy of these people with their self serving interests is typical of this alleged greenies. Bowen does not even know what day it is

[@leslinmorriss418]

Perhaps people need to listen to a track of Ozzie Osbourne's called "Fool like you" on his LP Ultimate Sin, and see if any bells ring?????

[@justincarman943]

We already have a high value (products) nuclear industry, but we refuse to do the basics like energy

[@polarbear7255]

Bowen is a fool.